hafizadam wrote:i didnt do this but some fansub didnt permit upload to Youtube, Veoh, DailyMotion, CrunchyRoll etc..
And of course the T.V. companies should pay the fansubbers for their work because without them the majority of people around the world would not know about these dramas. Way to go fansubbersrenea2 wrote:i have another point of view on this subject. i think all of these sites, streaming, downloading and most
important subbing have their place. as a non asian who now enjoys kdrama, i have used all of them..
the hardcopied ones in the beginning and now that i have learned to do so i use the soft subs.
I watch and if i like something then i buy it to rewatch. these dvds are not cheap and no one would spend this amount of money on something they had not seen. Most tv programs released on dvd are purchased because the consumer has already seen them and liked them so much they're willing to buy them. if not for internet sites how would the majority of people see these dramas. i understand the concerns about copyright, however the world is a huge market and all these sites are helping to expand the customer base for the companies who sell the dvds.....instead of policing, they should pay u for advertising......lol
renea2 wrote:i understand the concerns about copyright, however the world is a huge market and all these sites are helping to expand the customer base for the companies who sell the dvds.....instead of policing, they should pay u for advertising......lol
battlegirlai wrote:EDIT: Licensing is not killing fansubbing. its stopping the digital distribution of the licensed titles. so people have to rent or buy licensed shows... money? spend? what? omg! the horror! its the end of the world!
renea2 wrote:my point is that the market for dvds has to be created. the distributors should realize this. People normally speak the language of the dramas they are interested in and can watch directly from the tv sites. the rest of the world does not even know that these shows exist. So the dvd distributors should be paying you guys to translate more. (you're better than their subbers anyway.)This would increase their market. I don't believe that they are losing sales from your site but are gaining them.. they just don't see the big picture.
groink wrote:However, it is a known fact that if these same DVDs, with English subtitles added, are sold outside of Japan, they will be cheaper than the DVDs in Japan. You'll then have the Japanese reaching out to the U.S. market to purchase the likes of Orange Days or any of the NHK TV dramas. This is IMHO the single most important reason why the Japanese TV networks are against licensing their products to companies for the purpose of subbing and releasing them on DVD. Why are the Koreans licensing their shows? They have their reasons, and I don't bother wasting brain cells trying to figure out a culture I am not familiar with.
Also, fansubbers, for one strange reason or another, do not want to pursue fansubbing professionally.
But still, for most fansubbers the thought of subbing for money is prostitution.
loveless_soul wrote:Someone said they live in the States and they can't watch these shows on TV? Wrong. They are on TV. There are Asian channels and they show Kdrama & Cdrama as well as Jdrama but I haven't watch watch a Jdrama yet, only saw it briefly.
I still remember when Goong S aired on TV last year just when WITH S2 almost finished the series. Before that was Goong... I actually watched Goong on TV that time really late at night b/c my internet connection was bad back then.
Maybe you should try to find the channels that offer these shows b/c they do.
Renoa Heartilly wrote:i mean its already being broadcasted for free on tv, whats the fansub group is doing is letting others watch it too (then they added subtitles so said others can understand) isnt it the same as watching it on tv while knowing japanese?
2. Enterprising. Crunchyroll recently received US$4.5 million from a venture capitalist. Shinji quit school and is now working on Crunchyroll FULL-TIME - and making a living from it.
battlegirlai wrote:its not elitism or hypocrisy.
its pure self-preservation.
after all the years of seeing anime groups being pressured by companies with C&D letters and threats of prosecution, its hardly hypocritical to want to keep ourselves under the radar for as long as possible.
besides that, we do the work (i know you claim you've done it too, and thats all well and good and you can decide what you wish to do with your fansubs, but just because we don't agree doesn't make us elitist or hypocrites...it just means we don't agree) and we want people to watch it...not profit from it. we don't profit, they shouldn't profit. its that simple. if we profited from it and then demanded that others don't THEN we'd be hypocrites.
hafizadam wrote:just my curiosity..
i didnt do this but some fansub didnt permit upload to Youtube, Veoh, DailyMotion, CrunchyRoll etc..
sorry if someone already ask this but just my curiosity because I still found some of their works there..
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