[Discussion] Ainori/Love Wagon Reality Show (Summaries)

Dark_Schneider_Py · Post by **Dark_Schneider_Py** » Dec 16th, '07, 13:49

I've only started watching Ainori from around June-July of this year, so I don't absolutely know anything about the whole Outlaw thing... Other than what was shown at the end of this week's episode...
Anybody willing to explain what was the reason he left the bus at that time, and why did he seem so pissed off? I'm pretty darn curious...
Thanks in advance

x_XJules · Post by **x_XJules** » Dec 16th, '07, 16:36

Ryou is totally not attractive.

his face bothers me

^^;; (LoL, i sound so mean)

KupidKilla · Post by **KupidKilla** » Dec 17th, '07, 00:49

Don't feel bad Jules its not mean... Whenever he has that **** smirk I get the urge to hit him in his face...

Post by **jholic** » Dec 18th, '07, 03:14

anyways, the story about "the wall" was a very moving one, and in the tradition of ainori, it was a great feel-good story.

although i didn't know any of them, a hearty congrats to outlaw and his bride. that was a nice ainori success story as well.

x_XJules · Post by **x_XJules** » Dec 18th, '07, 13:30

Just finished 385~

Rollins · Post by **Rollins** » Dec 18th, '07, 17:16

If you want to read about the Outlaw and Goki scandal, the final episode in question is summarized here:

http://www.sylvainbouchard.com/wpblog/?p=245

Dark_Schneider_Py · Post by **Dark_Schneider_Py** » Dec 18th, '07, 18:46

Thanks a lot!!!!

Post by **jholic** » Dec 20th, '07, 09:51

Rollins wrote:If you want to read about the Outlaw and Goki scandal, the final episode in question is summarized here:
http://www.sylvainbouchard.com/wpblog/?p=245

Rollins, thanks for posting that link (and thanks to Sylvain for writing it).

i remember reading about the incident briefly, but not quite understanding the ramifications of it. at the time, i was just dl'ing the eps for friends and i was not watching it myself. having read what occurred in that ep validates my belief that though there is a lot of editing and forced situations by the staff, there is also the element of reality in the show.

thanks to everyone here that brings the ainori joy to our living rooms.

Annj · Post by **Annj** » Jan 7th, '08, 05:20

Just finished watching 386 with the wonderful Rollins/Niki Subs:

Thanks again Rollins and Niki for making my long day at work end in a wonderful way!

Post by **jholic** » Jan 12th, '08, 01:47

i laughed when the show started with the audience applauding because that's how i felt now that this was finally subbed by Rollins and Niki. 'hurray! ainori again!'

Post by **jholic** » Jan 12th, '08, 01:49

Annj: that was an interesting question about taping it in HD. when they showed the cameraman, it looked like he was holding a handheld. i have a feeling those handhelds are probably not hd cameras. do you think?

btw (off-topic) - those bulldogs really gave my warriors a whupping. they deserve a chance at the national title.

x_XJules · Post by **x_XJules** » Jan 12th, '08, 03:33

386~!

Post by **jholic** » Jan 13th, '08, 00:43

yes, they were circles, but i'm not sure if you would want them, jules. to me, it sounded like cliques. and cliques tend to shut out people and narrow people's outlooks. but they're inevitable, so i'm sure they are around you. depending on where you work, you may see some there too.

x_XJules · Post by **x_XJules** » Jan 15th, '08, 21:32

eek~! yea, cliques are no good ^^;;

387-

Post by **jholic** » Jan 18th, '08, 04:00

jules: you're very observant. i didn't see any of those things you had mentioned. i had to go back and watch it again. #387 was a great ep.

Annj · Post by **Annj** » Jan 18th, '08, 05:00

I only mention the HD thing because I noticed the screen change from announcers to a smaller screen of Ainori on the road. Lately I been very impressed that Japan has a lot of HD shows and channels where here in the States I only get 15 channels of HD because my cable provider only sends us those. Here in the States some reality shows are in HD (ie. sport games, The Amazing Race, Survior) so I wonder why Ainori isn't.
About Miya-kun, I'm really starting to worry about him. His shyness even affect group settings. San-kun was at least comfortable with males. I agree with you jholic I really like Momo also, I hope a really nice genuine guy comes along for her. Maybe Carbonara will start liking her which would be good and let Ryou have Remi because she is boring me.

newyorkjihen · Post by **newyorkjihen** » Jan 20th, '08, 21:08

Hi, I used to spam Sylvain's blog quite a bit under the same name. I just had to tell everyone how adorable I think Momo is, and I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that.

That fighting between Carbonara and Mr. Poser was really tiring. Carbonara has shown himself to have a strong character to end it, to befriend the loser, and to back away from Remi to not overcrowd her. I think Carbonara is really smart, giving her space, showing her that he's not jealous, etc.

There have been so many times when two people aggressively were going after one, and they usually both went home alone. Of course there are exceptions but still, I think Carbonara is playing all his cards right.

But how would I know? They've mostly been showing Carbonara's relationship with jerkwad instead of him talking to Remi. Anyway, screw these guys, show us more Momo.

Post by **jholic** » Jan 22nd, '08, 03:11

hey jihen, welcome to the discussion. i appreciated sylvain trying to give us a synopsis of each ep. now, we're blessed with Rollins and Niki.

Ta10 · Post by **Ta10** » Jan 24th, '08, 21:53

Long time watcher..but haven't really posted till now.

ep.389

Post by **jholic** » Jan 29th, '08, 05:04

Ta10, welcome to the discussion. you are mighty fast. i only caught up to 388.

Rollins, i have to also thank you for NOT subbing the preview of the next show (at the end of each ep). i hate previews because they often give away too much. i try not to watch previews at all.

murdocknakashima · Post by **murdocknakashima** » Jan 29th, '08, 07:16

Post by **jholic** » Feb 1st, '08, 01:42

murdock: dude, welcome to the discussion board!

anyways, here's my take:

murdocknakashima · Post by **murdocknakashima** » Feb 1st, '08, 18:09

This may be a dumb question, but could someone PM me that html tag for the spoiler box. Got comments about the show, but would like to put in the spoiler box just in case people haven't seen the latest ep. yet. Thanks in advance.

newyorkjihen · Post by **newyorkjihen** » Feb 1st, '08, 19:01

Click the "post reply" button, it gives you more options than the quick reply. There is a spoiler button and "close tags" to close it. But if you just want to type it:

[spoiler] Momo is cute, but that smell fetish thing is kind of weird. [/spoiler]

As for what jholic said, I too wonder if the producers pressure the members to confess or retire sometimes. Maybe suggestions, but also downright forcing them in extreme cases.

Post by **jholic** » Feb 1st, '08, 23:27

murdock: as jihen suggested, either hit the POST REPLY button on the bottom of the thread, or the QUOTE button on the upper right-hand corner. i was wondering why you were embedding your posts with <blockquote>, but i think you were trying html language. i edited some of your posts. trust me, it took me awhile to figure things out as well. still learning.

after you've clicked on POST REPLY, type what you want, highlight it with your cursor, and click SPOILER. it'll automatically embed it for you.

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jihen: it seems like it, ne? i've seen several times where a longtime member will just meet a new member and after just TWO shows, the dude's like "yeah, she wants me. i'm going to ask her give up this free, worldwide, expenses-paid vacation and go back home with me." what???

i think the producers should either lengthen the show (to provide more dialogue and show more interaction) or cut down on flashbacks. there are times when they show so many flashbacks that *i* flash back to old dragonball z eps where there was 23 mins about the previous episode and 7 mins of new footage.

but i enjoy ainori more for its educational qualities than the actual relationship situations. it just adds an amusing flavor to it.

murdocknakashima · Post by **murdocknakashima** » Feb 2nd, '08, 00:16

Thanks for the tuturial guys. Didn't even see that button you mentioned. Partially because I make the text size bigger so I can sit back in my chair ... i'm a lazy guy ... hahahaha.

anyways ....

How do you guys like the current theme song? It's taking a while for me to get into it. I caught on to the last two pretty fast ... Choutokyu and My Love, but I'm glad that they changed it. Was getting kind of sick of My Love. [/spoiler]

coachie · Post by **coachie** » Feb 2nd, '08, 09:18

#390

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Ta10 · Post by **Ta10** » Feb 2nd, '08, 14:03

lumines · Post by **lumines** » Feb 6th, '08, 01:07

Ta10 wrote:
I have to agree with everyone else that there is pressure put upon members to make a confession. They are running a TV show. If the story has run its course on a participant or their just dragging down the program, it's either they make a premature confession or retire with a "convenient" alibi. Sorry if I sound a bit cynical because I do believe a good amount of it is real as well. I also think time is a factor in all this, most of these participants I gather have lives and jobs to go back to in Japan so I'm sure that is also a motivating factor in either them doing a "kokuhaku" or the "retire." Either way, I think this is probably the funniest group of guys to be on the show, most of them don't seem all that interested in the girls or are too involved in their own problems to even notice their around. haha As for Momo, I guess she really does have a smell fetish. I can't believe she was sniffing the new guy out! But what smells is she picking up? General body odor? Pheromones? Or hoping that he's wearing her favorite Cologne?

Post by **jholic** » Feb 7th, '08, 05:24

murdock: regarding the theme song, i can't say i'm totally sold on it. i felt the opposite. i was a little disappointed that they took away the girl theme song and replaced it with the guy one. but it's growing on me.

Neji-sama · Post by **Neji-sama** » Feb 7th, '08, 05:35

hi peepz. just started watching this, tho been watching it backwards >_>. 390 > 386

. ah well, still good. very hilarious! carbanora is a cool guy.

Post by **jholic** » Feb 8th, '08, 01:28

Neji-sama, watching it backwards? i'm not sure about that. you see all the spoilers ahead of time. wouldn't it be more fun to collect as many as you can and watch it from the start?

xiaogou · Post by **xiaogou** » Feb 11th, '08, 07:40

Annj wrote:I only mention the HD thing because I noticed the screen change from announcers to a smaller screen of Ainori on the road. Lately I been very impressed that Japan has a lot of HD shows and channels where here in the States I only get 15 channels of HD because my cable provider only sends us those. Here in the States some reality shows are in HD (ie. sport games, The Amazing Race, Survior) so I wonder why Ainori isn't.

Actually for shows like Ainori is unlike many other reality shows. They need to keep their camera on 24/7. Even using the most advanced HD compression format, AVC, it would take up at least 3GB/hr, taking into consideration that the highest quality is used because it is a television broadcast. A day of shooting for 24 hrs will be 72GB per camera. 4 concurrent cameras will be 288GB. If we estimate this amount in a conservative manner, they have to deal with 288GB of data for 2 days of shooting, which is 1TB+ per week. Calculating more conservatively, if we cut this amount by 1/4 if only 2 cameras are used at night, it would still be about 800-900GB.

Quite an impossible amount to store and process, although current harddrive technologies can store 1TB or more, excluding backups.

Many factors needs to be considered when sending images to Japan. Physical sending is to send the data physically by travelling back to Japan in places where internet connections are not available. Over the net sends data over the internet back to Japan, but that will depend on the speeds available in that country. Risks are involved in every way: what if a flight gets delayed? What if the files sent are corrupted? What if the files didn't get sent on time? I find it amazing on how they process videos the way they do with non-HD format already.

With schedules so tight, files soooo big, it is not possible with current technologies to broadcast Ainori in full HD simply because it is LIVE action and videos have to be processed every week, not one-shot processing, like many US reality shows.

I'm guessing staff on the Ainori trip will draft an events storyboard for every week, sends it back to Japan, and from there an editor in Japan picks out events from that storyboard to fit relevant, interesting scenes into a 20 minute segment, which will derive a summarised storyboard marked with shooting times for video editing.

Hope it clears your doubt.

ogasawara2 · Post by **ogasawara2** » Feb 11th, '08, 15:27

I hope Miya doesn't retire, he's my favorite current member. He's totally clueless but so sweet.

392:

Post by **jholic** » Feb 15th, '08, 01:16

xiaogou: that was an excellent perspective of why it isn't broadcast in HD. unlike amazing race, in which i believe the edits are done AFTER the race is finished, ainori is broadcast weekly, so of course, the amount of data has to be a consideration. how would they upload terabytes of info from fiji?

ogasawara, you're waaay too fast. i'm only up to ep391.

murdocknakashima · Post by **murdocknakashima** » Feb 15th, '08, 06:17

Just finished watching #391 and #392...

Neji-sama · Post by **Neji-sama** » Feb 15th, '08, 09:18

jholic wrote:Neji-sama, watching it backwards? i'm not sure about that. you see all the spoilers ahead of time. wouldn't it be more fun to collect as many as you can and watch it from the start?

Yeah I know but there was hardly any seeders

. Oh well, hopefully we'll get a batch or something someday =)!

ogasawara2 · Post by **ogasawara2** » Feb 18th, '08, 14:40

ah, I'm ahead because I just watch the episodes as they air now. in the last few months I pretty much made a weekly routine of being home on Monday nights to watch SMAPxSMAP and Ainori

so I just saw 393 and, oh man.

xiaogou · Post by **xiaogou** » Feb 18th, '08, 14:43

ogasawara2 wrote:ah, I'm ahead because I just watch the episodes as they air now. in the last few months I pretty much made a weekly routine of being home on Monday nights to watch SMAPxSMAP and Ainori

Wow that's pretty quick. LOL I'm still waiting for the subtitles for #392. Can't wait!

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xiaogou · Post by **xiaogou** » Feb 19th, '08, 10:58

ogasawara2 wrote:I hope Miya doesn't retire, he's my favorite current member. He's totally clueless but so sweet.

392:
Besides, it looks like maybe they are trying to set up a Danny -> Momo and Miya -> Momo triangle or something? Between Ryo playing that prank on Danny, and suddenly Miya hanging out with Momo like that, who knows...

Remi's birthday was awesome. I'm surprised Ryo didn't take more credit for it. Though him holding hands with her later on was really cute

And something's got to be brewing for next week since Masami was crying like that in the previews. I'm guessing maybe Ryo just goes ahead and kokuhaku's soon, especially since he just sat around moping for 5 days while Remi was having eye trouble. It is true that this particular group isn't really all that... active, I guess. But switching even one member could really spice things up. I blame them for bringing Seiji on. He's just such a bonehead. Why bring on a guy who can't get over his ex... isn't that as bad as bringing on a guy who's still involved with someone? sheesh.

Agreed.

Rollins · Post by **Rollins** » Feb 19th, '08, 20:14

ogasawara2 wrote:ah, I'm ahead because I just watch the episodes as they air now. in the last few months I pretty much made a weekly routine of being home on Monday nights to watch SMAPxSMAP and Ainori

so I just saw 393 and, oh man.

Ryo's confession was LAME. I couldn't believe he was just sitting there talking about Carbonara for 30 minutes before confessing, sheesh. But yeah, you could tell he was going to definitely confess by the end of thie episode by the way things were going.

I'm really wondering what Remi's gonna do. I agree with the people here who say she's too cold to go back with him and she'll probably retire if anything... but... I mean... she DID say to the producers she was thinking of going back with him, right? It could sort of be a semi-retiring. Like, she's sick of Ainori and thinks there might be a tiny chance stuff would work out with Ryo, so she'll go back with him, and if stuff doesn't work out, oh well...

but of course the preview made it look like she says no. as always.

oh well, either way at least the Remi-Ryo plot is over now! YAAAAAAYY!!!!

also the sausages scene at the beginning was HILARIOUS.

I hope the new guy who replaces Ryo isn't as completely useless as Seiji.

Well, I just finished watching 393 as well...

Annj · Post by **Annj** » Feb 20th, '08, 06:23

Just finished #292:

xiaogou (small dog?): thanks for your insight on the HD thing. I just thought after they film they might upload it to the studios for a faster editing process. Its how I would do it but then I don't really know much about the filming process.
Btw does anyone esle notice that Ainori uses a lot of music from other shows??? I am a jdrama addict I admit that but when I watch Ainori I hear the insert songs and I can think of other shows it was used. Does anyone else catch that?

murdocknakashima · Post by **murdocknakashima** » Feb 24th, '08, 01:32

i just finished watching #393 today...

Don't you guys find it kind of interesting that they (Ai Nori) set up a few schools in African countries, but they haven't been to 75%+ of the countries in Africa? I just noticed it when watching this past episode when they show the map of which countries they have already visited that they really haven't been to many countries in Africa.

xiaogou · Post by **xiaogou** » Feb 26th, '08, 04:32

393:

robw23105 · Post by **robw23105** » Feb 27th, '08, 01:04

does anyone know the name of the insert song when Remi comes back recovered (in 392 & in the intro to 393)? I've had it stuck in my head for a while, and I'm dying to know what it's called.

Rollins · Post by **Rollins** » Feb 27th, '08, 01:36

robw23105 wrote:does anyone know the name of the insert song when Remi comes back recovered (in 392 & in the intro to 393)? I've had it stuck in my head for a while, and I'm dying to know what it's called.

"Free" by Sawajiri Erika

robw23105 · Post by **robw23105** » Feb 27th, '08, 21:37

Rollins wrote: "Free" by Sawajiri Erika

Ahh, tyty.

I suppose I should've expected that.

xiaogou · Post by **xiaogou** » Feb 28th, '08, 15:32

murdocknakashima wrote:i just finished watching #393 today...

I don't really think Remi and Ryou matches too well, but how's them producers eh? It's almost like there's some kind of clause in their agreement that if a couple goes back and they break up within a certain time frame, they get compensated by the shows ... the kinds of questions the producer was asking. Almost like he was trying to change her mind and not so much trying to get her the think about it more carefully.

I agree with everyone else though ... i'm glad that this will be over (remi and ryou). Seiji is useless as well (right now), but I'm sure something will happen with him in the future. I don't think they'd let a dud like that enter the show if they didn't think something interesting would happen.

As for Rollins' offer ... I kind of want to know what happens ... i'm like him, I hate to watch a show knowing that there is a kokuhaku and I can't watch the following episode right away, but in this case ... i think i'll wait for the answer. Is there a news special next week? isn't that usually the reason why it gets pushed back?
Don't you guys find it kind of interesting that they (Ai Nori) set up a few schools in African countries, but they haven't been to 75%+ of the countries in Africa? I just noticed it when watching this past episode when they show the map of which countries they have already visited that they really haven't been to many countries in Africa.

Well...

x_XJules · Post by **x_XJules** » Mar 1st, '08, 08:19

ohisashiburi desune~! Wow!! I haven't posted in awhile. Sorry guys ^^;; I just went through a nasty break-up myself and just couldn't bring myself to watch ai nori for awhile. but I just had a nice little marathon tonight and man... I missed this show!! LoL, i always forget how much I love this show.

Okay... so my thoughts up to ep 393

newyorkjihen · Post by **newyorkjihen** » Mar 1st, '08, 23:32

I am really excited to see #394. I can't wait !!!

ogasawara2 · Post by **ogasawara2** » Mar 3rd, '08, 14:51

Oh my GOD this was the most painful episode to watch. EVER. EVER! I was seriously ready to punch my TV by halfway through.

394:

I think it's really funny that they say "People's Repubric of Germany" in the opening sequence. I just noticed that tonight.

Post by **jholic** » Mar 4th, '08, 02:23

welcome back, jules.

ogasawara: you're way too fast for me!

ainori392 & 393:

Ta10 · Post by **Ta10** » Mar 4th, '08, 17:51

murdocknakashima · Post by **murdocknakashima** » Mar 6th, '08, 08:20

just finished #394

Larc · Post by **Larc** » Mar 7th, '08, 06:09

I'm glad they're gone. The guy that can't get over his previous girl needs to go too.

Anyway, episode #394 was soooo stupid. A whole episode just for the proposal?

I bet the producers told Remi to drag it out. That was really annoying.

Sugaface · Post by **Sugaface** » Mar 10th, '08, 03:31

This show sounds really interesting to me. Where should I start? Should I start from 2005 or does this show have seasons?

ogasawara2 · Post by **ogasawara2** » Mar 10th, '08, 15:42

Sugaface: I would kind of suggest just... watching the last couple of episodes to get to know the current members and get context for what's going on, unless you REALLY want to know what happened before. A lot of the old stories are up on Sylvain's blog and such.

Anyway, I just watched #395 (on TV, not on torrent). I have no idea how much of this has to be behind a spoiler tag so I guess I'll just throw it all there:

murdocknakashima · Post by **murdocknakashima** » Mar 13th, '08, 08:27

just watched #395

abara · Post by **abara** » Mar 13th, '08, 09:37

Re: the drivers

Post by **jholic** » Mar 14th, '08, 00:43

Sugaface: i would also suggest just dl'ing the last few eps and begin from there. if you go back too far, it will be difficult to participate with the current discussion. heck, even *I* can't keep up!!

LaLaLaDRAMA · Post by **LaLaLaDRAMA** » Mar 14th, '08, 01:16

okay

Post by **jholic** » Mar 20th, '08, 00:38

ainori394 (still to watch 395):

Larc · Post by **Larc** » Mar 28th, '08, 13:43

No airnori this week?

jholic, if I lived in Japan, I would seriously try out the casting call! haha

When Ainori first began, it felt way more natural, but now the staff/editors are really forcing things. I mean, sure the show is still entertaining, but they really sold out.

abara · Post by **abara** » Mar 29th, '08, 10:28

Hahaha! He called her Cujo!

Larc · Post by **Larc** » Mar 29th, '08, 13:50

Damn... no Ainori for 2 weeks?! Some kind of Spring special going on for other TV shows?

The bus driver doesn't just "wait on the back of the bus, having nothing to do" -- the staff definitely forced him to go there... haha but that was great.... "Cujo" needed to hear that.

And I bet the rainbow at the end was from a different day. Damn too many sneaky editing on the show. I doubt it's ever chronological.

Ok yeah, definitely that girl playing soccer bear foot was really cute.

The preview makes me curious... What the hell did Danny do to Miyakun? Poor guy...
Danny getting pissed over some chocolates and seaweed? haha

junkie_with_a_monkey · Post by **junkie_with_a_monkey** » Apr 15th, '08, 21:17

Hey guys,

I've translated 98% of 397 but a few lines are giving me trouble and was wondering if anybody could help me out or point me in the right direction to someone who could.

These are all from episode 397 and both parts are with Seiji talking with Yokko:
1. Around 07:10

よっこ：クロとか見てるとさほら素直でさ
ここ(あいのり)にいる子たち
しっかり自分持ってるなと思う

2. Around 07:31

せいじ：俺の場合は
逆に俺のことよく知ってる人が
だけ知っててくれればそれでいいや

よっこ：私もけっこう一時すごい
自分のことってあんまり
みんな解ってくれてないなって
思いがちな時があったけど
ただ自分が相手のこと
理解してないんだと思う

Can anyone help me out?

Larc · Post by **Larc** » Apr 16th, '08, 10:34

Well, direct translation for 'sunao' is like well-behaved but I think she means being honest.(about oneself)

クロとか見てるとさほら素直でさ
Looking at Kuro and stuff... they're honest, you know?

ここ(あいのり)にいる子たち
しっかり自分持ってるなと思
The people here on the show... I think they know for sure about themselves. (or they have a hold of themselves [of who they are])

something like that... translating stuff directly word for word never sounds right, but I think that's what she was trying to say.

abara · Post by **abara** » Apr 16th, '08, 20:07

junkie_with_a_monkey wrote: 2. Around 07:31
せいじ：俺の場合は
逆に俺のことよく知ってる人が
だけ知っててくれればそれでいいや

よっこ：私もけっこう一時すごい
自分のことってあんまり
みんな解ってくれてないなって
思いがちな時があったけど
ただ自分が相手のこと
理解してないんだと思う

Seiji: In my case, I'm actually fine with just the people who already know me, knowing me.

Yokko: There was a time when I really had a tendency to think that no one was understanding me, but now I think I just wasn't understanding them.

PS. lol danny

junkie_with_a_monkey · Post by **junkie_with_a_monkey** » Apr 17th, '08, 19:36

Super thanks! I had a tough time trying to understand what they were saying, especially Yukko's parts. It's much apprieciated.

I'm not that bigger fan of the current members, except for Momo who's pretty damn cute. I'm glad to see Seiji has finally stopped moping around though.

Meecha · Post by **Meecha** » Apr 20th, '08, 15:19

wow

sacchan · Post by **sacchan** » May 6th, '08, 20:55

ainori400 = 400 TEARS!!!!

meowww · Post by **meowww** » May 14th, '08, 12:32

hello! is anyone uploading the latest ainori???

Post by **jholic** » May 15th, '08, 23:11

you just need to be patient for the next one. i've been lucky with Rollins and Niki subbing again, but i'm only to 398. i'm hoping to join in this conversation again.

katzenjammin' · Post by **katzenjammin'** » May 16th, '08, 03:03

sacchan wrote:ainori400 = 400 TEARS!!!!
AND FOR THE SECOND TIME IT MADE ME CRY!

Heheh, I don't cry easily but watching this episode I came close. Especially when...

Larc · Post by **Larc** » May 19th, '08, 19:41

Episode #401...

The whole AD collapsing was the dumbest crap ever. Totally fake setup and waste of air time.

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