[Discussion] Ashita no Kita Yoshio
[Discussion] Ashita no Kita Yoshio
I didn't see a thread for this in the first 3 pages of the jDrama forum, so I thought I should start one. Please merge if it already exists
Just watched a bunch of the first episodes for Winter 2008 season. This is the one that really caught my eye. Aside from the generous use of young flesh. The story is quite interesting.
This is based on a book Jiyuu Shikei. About a guy who's been mistreated by life and decided to end his life in 11 days. Although I think that this reminds me more of a movie where a guy was about to end his life but ends up meeting this gangster who shows him things life has to offer (anyone remember the title?)
I thought that this is an interesting parallel that we just had papa to musume no nanatokan and now we have the last 11 days of Yoshio.
Just watched a bunch of the first episodes for Winter 2008 season. This is the one that really caught my eye. Aside from the generous use of young flesh. The story is quite interesting.
This is based on a book Jiyuu Shikei. About a guy who's been mistreated by life and decided to end his life in 11 days. Although I think that this reminds me more of a movie where a guy was about to end his life but ends up meeting this gangster who shows him things life has to offer (anyone remember the title?)
I thought that this is an interesting parallel that we just had papa to musume no nanatokan and now we have the last 11 days of Yoshio.
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* Kohinata Fumiyo as Kita Yoshio
* Matsuda Ryuhei as Yashiro Heita
* Konishi Manami as Washizu Mizuho
* Kuriyama Chiaki as Hasegawa Rika
* Namase Katsuhisa as Sugimoto Masaru
* Kaname Jun as Moriwaki Daisuke
* Yoshitaka Yuriko as Yoimachi Shinobu
* Imai Masayuki as Minami Takao
* Iwamatsu Ryo as Ebata Eiji
Story: Yoshio Kita is a debt-laden man whose wife has left him. With his close friend's death anniversary only 11 days away, Yoshio chooses that date for his own death. However, a string of encounters and incidents makes those 11 days far from peaceful. But can those events save him from his death and show him how to live again?
I was anticipating this drama for the sake of this couple *_*
Episode one was unbelievably good and interesting... I'm looking forward to it, hopes the subber continue this project.
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quote from "nbkz" on the torrent page of ashita no kita yoshio:
it's quite unfortunate no english subbing group will be picking up this title. amongst the rampant idol dramas aired on television, this one showed potential and the only drama of this year that caught my eye (last year was a disaster but that's another story).
i'm excited to wait for the french subs so i can continue to watch this drama. at least then, i'd understand about 60-70% of it.
congrats and good luck to KnD na Sekai for choosing this project!
and good luck to nbkz & furransu for their other two projects.
from what i understand, there will be no more english subs for this series. i checked the fansub wiki and no announcement has been made if Querbeet or other english subbing groups will be picking up this title. on the wiki, there is a french subtitling group picking it up " KnD na Sekai" (announced dec 27 2007).Just to let you guys know, I only did this translation for pratical reason. I simply wanted to know how far I could go~ This was my first project, and probably my last for Ashita no Yoshio. Hopefully Querbeet Fansubs or other groups will pick up the project >___<
it's quite unfortunate no english subbing group will be picking up this title. amongst the rampant idol dramas aired on television, this one showed potential and the only drama of this year that caught my eye (last year was a disaster but that's another story).
i'm excited to wait for the french subs so i can continue to watch this drama. at least then, i'd understand about 60-70% of it.
congrats and good luck to KnD na Sekai for choosing this project!
and good luck to nbkz & furransu for their other two projects.
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Ashita no, Kita Yoshio is one of the brighter spots in a generally poor season for me so far. Most of the credit has to go to Kohinata Fumiyo. He rarely gets big roles in dramas, but here he shows he can handle it very well indeed. So I'm glad to see that furransu has found someone to translate it. I considered doing it myself, if no one else is available
"The miraculous 11 days of the unluckiest man in the world": Call me a cynic, but the obvious reason why it's 11 days is that it fits the TV station's schedule (11 episodes). Heh.
Some comments and speculation (up to ep2):
"The miraculous 11 days of the unluckiest man in the world": Call me a cynic, but the obvious reason why it's 11 days is that it fits the TV station's schedule (11 episodes). Heh.
Some comments and speculation (up to ep2):
I quite like the first episode. I downloaded it because i was bored but it turned out to be a nice little surprise. Considering that i don't really know the cast, i was thinking this would be a flop. But its a great. The actor who plays the suicidal main character is very good. He's great as a pushover with that soft voice and his wimpy way of saying things. Even the way he holds himself makes him look like a wuss but
So far the cast match their given roles and i like watching this thinking that they chose the right people for these roles instead of trying to squeeze some johnnys into them just for the sake of eye candy. I love eye candy but i prefer good solid acting for a series like this, where acting will make or break the show. Put the wrong actor in there and the whole atmosphere would be ruined.
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Agreeeed. I don't think any of the Johnny's people would be able to pull off such a dramatic drama like this.Karawhite wrote:So far the cast match their given roles and i like watching this thinking that they chose the right people for these roles instead of trying to squeeze some johnnys into them just for the sake of eye candy. I love eye candy but i prefer good solid acting for a series like this, where acting will make or break the show. Put the wrong actor in there and the whole atmosphere would be ruined.
And Ryuhei Matsuda and Jun Kaname are good enough eye candy for me in this one. (Ryuhei especially. *O*)
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This drama is SO good. I'm definitely happy I gave it a try.
I admit originally wanting to watch this for the sake of Kaname Jun, but Kohinata Fumiyo surprised me so much... I've seen him in a lot of doramas in the supporting cast, so I was plesantly surprised to see he could pull the elading role off so well.
I really like him, I think this drama is full of good actors and the story in my eyes is something unusual compared to the other stuff... we usually get.
The rating for the dorama could be better, though!
I admit originally wanting to watch this for the sake of Kaname Jun, but Kohinata Fumiyo surprised me so much... I've seen him in a lot of doramas in the supporting cast, so I was plesantly surprised to see he could pull the elading role off so well.
I really like him, I think this drama is full of good actors and the story in my eyes is something unusual compared to the other stuff... we usually get.
The rating for the dorama could be better, though!
I agree
He did carry his role pretty well for a lead character and Ryuhei OMG, he's just sooo bad in this movie but also so cute, I've seen ep 2, it was quite mysterious....
i like Ryuhei and Chiaki together, they seem like a mysterious couple... its the one reason why I try this drama in the first place...
i like Ryuhei and Chiaki together, they seem like a mysterious couple... its the one reason why I try this drama in the first place...
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Wow I love this drama!
Totally didn't know what to expect, but it came out really good, especially episode 1.
I think the best parts of this show has to be the randomness and the surreal scenes.
And personally I love the jazz bgm (and omg jazz rendition of Gilbert O'Sullivan's Alone Again @ 38:38, ep1).
Also, Yoshitaka Yuriko for eye candy!
Totally didn't know what to expect, but it came out really good, especially episode 1.
I think the best parts of this show has to be the randomness and the surreal scenes.
And personally I love the jazz bgm (and omg jazz rendition of Gilbert O'Sullivan's Alone Again @ 38:38, ep1).
Also, Yoshitaka Yuriko for eye candy!
I wasn't originally going to watch this, because the description on the drama wiki didn't appeal to me. After reading everybody's posts about the show itself, I realized it wasn't what I was expecting though and decided to give it a look.
I'm really glad I did, because this has become my favorite "serious" drama of the season. It's actually got quite a good sense of humor, while still dealing with serious subjects. The actors are excellent. (Kohinata Fumiyo is amazing here.) And the characters all seem to be something more or different than what they first appear, which is something I really love to see in dramas.
The pacing so far seem really good, so I hope it continues like this.
I'm really glad I did, because this has become my favorite "serious" drama of the season. It's actually got quite a good sense of humor, while still dealing with serious subjects. The actors are excellent. (Kohinata Fumiyo is amazing here.) And the characters all seem to be something more or different than what they first appear, which is something I really love to see in dramas.
I think that the story is awesome so far. But the ratings are doing AWFUL! It went from 12% in the first wk to 8.7%. Making it the biggest wk to wk drop of this season.
I hope that this will not cause any desperation changes to the story that would ruin it
So, NO one knows the name of the movie I'm referring to?
I hope that this will not cause any desperation changes to the story that would ruin it
So, NO one knows the name of the movie I'm referring to?
I noticed the ratings drop too. I was wondering if there was anything really popular on against it like some kind of sports special or something. I think the second episode was really quite good, and the promo for it didn't do it justice. That still doesn't seem like reason enough to justify that drop though.auroragb wrote:I think that the story is awesome so far. But the ratings are doing AWFUL! It went from 12% in the first wk to 8.7%. Making it the biggest wk to wk drop of this season.
I hope that this will not cause any desperation changes to the story that would ruin it
So, NO one knows the name of the movie I'm referring to?
Desperation changes to the story would suck. It doesn't need them.
I've never seen the movie you were asking about, but if anyone comes up with the name it sounds like something I'd like to watch.
Binbou Danshi ep1 and Lincoln.ryoko11 wrote:
I noticed the ratings drop too. I was wondering if there was anything really popular on against it like some kind of sports special or something. I think the second episode was really quite good, and the promo for it didn't do it justice. That still doesn't seem like reason enough to justify that drop though.
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for people interested on the ratings of the other shows in the same timeslot as Ashita no Kita Yoshio and Hachikuro:
Jan 22
火9
15.9% 21:00-21:54 TBS ズバリ言うわよ! www.tbs.co.jp/zubariiuwayo/
13.4% 21:00-21:54 EX__ ロンドンハーツ www.tv-asahi.co.jp/londonhearts/
12.9% 20:54-21:54 TX__ 開運!なんでも鑑定団 http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/kantei/
11.2% 21:00-21:54 NTV 週刊オリラジ経済白書 http://www.ntv.co.jp/oriradi/
*9.8% 21:00-21:54 CX* ハチミツとクローバー
*9.4% 21:00-22:00 NHK ニュースウオッチ9 www.nhk.or.jp/nw9/
火10
15.1% 21:54-23:10 EX__ 報道ステーション http://www.tv-asahi.co.jp/hst/
13.2% 22:00-22:54 NTV 火曜ドラマ・貧乏男子 ボンビーメン Binbo Danshi
11.2% 22:00-22:45 NHK プロフェッショナル・仕事の流儀 http://www.nhk.or.jp/professional/
11.2% 22:00-22:54 TBS リンカーン www.tbs.co.jp/lincoln05/
*7.7% 22:00-22:54 TX__ ガイアの夜明け http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/gaia/
*7.3% 22:00-22:54 CX* あしたの、喜多善男~世界一不運な男の、奇跡の11日間~
Jan 22
火9
15.9% 21:00-21:54 TBS ズバリ言うわよ! www.tbs.co.jp/zubariiuwayo/
13.4% 21:00-21:54 EX__ ロンドンハーツ www.tv-asahi.co.jp/londonhearts/
12.9% 20:54-21:54 TX__ 開運!なんでも鑑定団 http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/kantei/
11.2% 21:00-21:54 NTV 週刊オリラジ経済白書 http://www.ntv.co.jp/oriradi/
*9.8% 21:00-21:54 CX* ハチミツとクローバー
*9.4% 21:00-22:00 NHK ニュースウオッチ9 www.nhk.or.jp/nw9/
火10
15.1% 21:54-23:10 EX__ 報道ステーション http://www.tv-asahi.co.jp/hst/
13.2% 22:00-22:54 NTV 火曜ドラマ・貧乏男子 ボンビーメン Binbo Danshi
11.2% 22:00-22:45 NHK プロフェッショナル・仕事の流儀 http://www.nhk.or.jp/professional/
11.2% 22:00-22:54 TBS リンカーン www.tbs.co.jp/lincoln05/
*7.7% 22:00-22:54 TX__ ガイアの夜明け http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/gaia/
*7.3% 22:00-22:54 CX* あしたの、喜多善男~世界一不運な男の、奇跡の11日間~
ratings for Jan 15th--> Jan 22nd in the same sequence as this wks for comparison
13.4% --> 15.1% 21:54-23:10 EX__ 報道ステーション
16.5% --> 13.2% 22:00-23:09 NTV [新]火曜ドラマ・貧乏男子 ボンビーメン
*8.6% --> 11.2% 22:00-23:00 NHK プロフェッショナル 仕事の流儀「坂東玉三郎スペシャル」
12.4% --> 11.2%22:00-22:54 TBS リンカーン
*8.4% --> 7.7% 22:00-22:54 TX__ ガイアの夜明け
*8.0% 22:00-22:54 CX* あしたの喜多善男~世界一不運な男の、奇跡の11日間~
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Basically, the docu-news shows increased whereas the dramas declines
13.4% --> 15.1% 21:54-23:10 EX__ 報道ステーション
16.5% --> 13.2% 22:00-23:09 NTV [新]火曜ドラマ・貧乏男子 ボンビーメン
*8.6% --> 11.2% 22:00-23:00 NHK プロフェッショナル 仕事の流儀「坂東玉三郎スペシャル」
12.4% --> 11.2%22:00-22:54 TBS リンカーン
*8.4% --> 7.7% 22:00-22:54 TX__ ガイアの夜明け
*8.0% 22:00-22:54 CX* あしたの喜多善男~世界一不運な男の、奇跡の11日間~
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Basically, the docu-news shows increased whereas the dramas declines
Re: [Discussion] Ashita no Kita Yoshio
There are probably quite a few of these, but the most recent one I can think of is GROW (directed by Hideo Sakaki).auroragb wrote:Although I think that this reminds me more of a movie where a guy was about to end his life but ends up meeting this gangster who shows him things life has to offer (anyone remember the title?)
There have been worse (Kodoku no Kake, Regatta) but neither of those were as great as Ashita no Kita Yoshio!!! It's either my favorite or second favorite so far this season. Why aren't they watching it?auroragb wrote:ep 5 ratings:5.2
What's wrong with everyone? Don't they recognize a great drama when they see it?
This is the worst rating I've ever seen for a drama
Kodoku no Kake didn't drop to 5.1 until episode 10 though. At episode 5 it was still 7.6%. I think KnK kinda changed focus from what viewers may have been initially tuning in for and had some pacing issues, though I enjoyed Ito in it. (Can't speak for Regatta, not having seen it.)marspeach wrote:There have been worse (Kodoku no Kake, Regatta) but neither of those were as great as Ashita no Kita Yoshio!!! It's either my favorite or second favorite so far this season. Why aren't they watching it?auroragb wrote:ep 5 ratings:5.2
What's wrong with everyone? Don't they recognize a great drama when they see it?
This is the worst rating I've ever seen for a drama
Ashita no Kita Yoshio hasn't disappointed me once, its twists have been interesting, and it seems perfectly on track for pacing. I just honestly can't understand the low ratings on this one. The acting is superb in this show too. Best performances this season! (Bara no nai Hanaya, Sasaki Fusai no Jingi Naki Tatakai, and Shikaotoko Awoniyoshi also have great performances coming out of them.)
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I still think it's because of some competition in that time slot and, even though i don't know exactly about this... It's an adult drama that may have some questionable contents for Japanese viewers, the whole suicide issue and Shinobu/Yoshio, maybe they're uncomfortable with that, but as Is aid, I can't know for sure.auroragb wrote:ep 5 ratings:5.2
What's wrong with everyone? Don't they recognize a great drama when they see it?
This is the worst rating I've ever seen for a drama
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I love the series, but it seems it's just too different from typical dramas, which probably turned off a lot of the Japanese viewers. It doesn't really follow any formulas, doesn't fall into a standard genre, doesn't have any real gimmicks, there are no "must-see" events in the episodes... and Kohinata obviously doesn't have the star power of other actors to bring in ratings.
All in all, it's a unique adventure focusing mainly on human psyches and emotions, with some semblance of a background mystery to help move the plot. In other words, it's a niche drama that most people are simply going to find confusing.
I just hope the staff continues with the original vision and doesn't resort to wrecking the show just for ratings.
All in all, it's a unique adventure focusing mainly on human psyches and emotions, with some semblance of a background mystery to help move the plot. In other words, it's a niche drama that most people are simply going to find confusing.
I just hope the staff continues with the original vision and doesn't resort to wrecking the show just for ratings.
^Yeah, I think the combination of middle-aged pathetic guy + lack of a climax in most episodes turns people off. I also think the issue of suicide doesn't help, because the show does not seem to be going along the straight path of "he's going to find out that life is worth living."
To be honest, I had no idea this show was going to be centred on Yoshio, when I saw the promo pic on wiki I thought it was gonna be focused on Ryuhei and Chiaki. I didn't even notice Fumiyo in the background lol ^_^;
I just watched ep 5. I think that the subber schedules are impacted by Chinese New Year...
Yet another GREAT episode. I'm really enjoying this because there are lots of things happening and there are LOTS of subtle details I'm noticing each time. I'm really caring about whether or not Yoshio would or would not off himself at the end.
Yet another GREAT episode. I'm really enjoying this because there are lots of things happening and there are LOTS of subtle details I'm noticing each time. I'm really caring about whether or not Yoshio would or would not off himself at the end.
I agree! I thought so too. But the drama is MUCH more interesting in this way.To be honest, I had no idea this show was going to be centred on Yoshio, when I saw the promo pic on wiki I thought it was gonna be focused on Ryuhei and Chiaki. I didn't even notice Fumiyo in the background lol ^_^;
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I really don't get this. It's such a good show. Suspenseful story, great soundtrack, flawless acting... Can the Japanese specators really be that dense about good stuff? I'm a little irritated that "some shows" get far better ratings even though they are just the same as many others before.
Referring to the most recent episode,
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Referring to the most recent episode,
haha i like the way you've analysed even just the ending clip. it was such a pleasant surprise to see a new one! doesn't usually happen in jdoramas. i find the kung-fu scenes really pleasant, i have to admit.
i love this jdorama, i think it absolutely rocks, considering i've watch like 30+ dramas in my short addiction, and i still think it's darn good.
so why on earth does it have such horrible ratings!?
i HOPE and PRAY that it doesn't get shortened cos of that, though its not really possible since he MUST have 4 days left :p
i love this jdorama, i think it absolutely rocks, considering i've watch like 30+ dramas in my short addiction, and i still think it's darn good.
so why on earth does it have such horrible ratings!?
i HOPE and PRAY that it doesn't get shortened cos of that, though its not really possible since he MUST have 4 days left :p
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Yay, finally a new post!!
Btw. after watching all 7 episodes again I would find quite a couple of hints that lead to my first guess
What do you guys think? It would be so drama-ish, too.
I don't think they will shorten it. Did something like this ever happen before? They even shot a new ending clip which means they put some more bucks than necessary into it, too.unclehock wrote:i HOPE and PRAY that it doesn't get shortened cos of that, though its not really possible since he MUST have 4 days left :p
Btw. after watching all 7 episodes again I would find quite a couple of hints that lead to my first guess
That's generally right, although I am quite confused too...kvertand wrote:Here I thought this was going to be a simple drama
The story is getting strange (in a good way). I can't re-watch all the eps right now so I'm going from memory here, but tell me if you think this is accurate *spoilers through ep 7*:
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yeah they've actually stopped shows early. one that i can vividly recall would be horikita maki's "teppan shoujo akane" which did receive horrible ratings, and got cut one episode and ended at 9 eps.
but i suspect a show like "ashita no kita yoshio" shouldn't suffer the same fate given the type of show it is.
still love how every details matters in this show
but i suspect a show like "ashita no kita yoshio" shouldn't suffer the same fate given the type of show it is.
still love how every details matters in this show
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but everyone says the show was really boring, too which Ashita no Kita Yoshi is definitely not. there's a certain romance drama in this season that I'd really like to get stopped though.unclehock wrote:yeah they've actually stopped shows early. one that i can vividly recall would be horikita maki's "teppan shoujo akane" which did receive horrible ratings, and got cut one episode and ended at 9 eps
yeah, that's what I also like about "Nana", anime and manga. every single detail matters in some way. both Nana's mangaka and Ashita no Kita Yoshio's screenwriter must be brilliant! but Ashita no Kita's cinematography is also one of the main reasons why it's so great.unclehock wrote:still love how every details matters in this show
Ratings are 5.8 for ep 8. At this rate it's avg ratings will fall below the 4 sisters show and be the lowest of this season.
Basically, anything with less than a 10 avg ratings will not be able to get a award. because they are popularity contests (voted on by readers) and something with < 10 rating will not have enough watchers to give it a chance.
It's strange tho, is there such a large disconnect between foreign viewers who've seen this drama and the viewers in Japan?
Basically, anything with less than a 10 avg ratings will not be able to get a award. because they are popularity contests (voted on by readers) and something with < 10 rating will not have enough watchers to give it a chance.
It's strange tho, is there such a large disconnect between foreign viewers who've seen this drama and the viewers in Japan?
Oh, come on, which one is it?Erdbeerbox wrote:but everyone says the show was really boring, too which Ashita no Kita Yoshi is definitely not. there's a certain romance drama in this season that I'd really like to get stopped though.
Funny that auroragb mentioned 4-shimai Tanteidan. For a while I thought there's some connection between that drama and Kita Yoshio, what with Namase pulling double duty and then Muroi Shigeru coming in for ep7 (as Minami's old girlfriend/wife). Apparently not.
Although I am still following the 4 sisters, I can understand why that show is struggling. It may have plenty of eye candy, but for a suspense/mystery detective drama it has very little suspense or mystery. I don't really know why I'm still following it, actually.
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Don't worry, Erdbeerbox, Bara no nai hanaya is quite predicatble (I just don't care xD), it's a fact. Also, yeah, pretty corny *lol*
I think Ashita no Kita Yoshio just got better and better with each episode.
Therew as something coming, but you couldn't quite tell, i would probably not have predicted this turn until the latest two or three episodes ago, but then again, the dramam is pretty unique.
I think Ashita no Kita Yoshio just got better and better with each episode.
Therew as something coming, but you couldn't quite tell, i would probably not have predicted this turn until the latest two or three episodes ago, but then again, the dramam is pretty unique.
Ep 9, ratings 5.8.
sigh...
Barring major increase from the 4 sisters, it looks like Yoshio has a chance of staying out of last place
Honestly, this season's drama were better than they've been in the past couple of seasons. On the whole, they're the best they've been for 5-6 seasons (there are individually brilliant titles, but overall, dramas were weak) but the ratings have been horrible. This season has the most number of sub-10 ratings I've ever seen for a drama season. I think that they are being punished for having two lousy seasons...
sigh...
Barring major increase from the 4 sisters, it looks like Yoshio has a chance of staying out of last place
Honestly, this season's drama were better than they've been in the past couple of seasons. On the whole, they're the best they've been for 5-6 seasons (there are individually brilliant titles, but overall, dramas were weak) but the ratings have been horrible. This season has the most number of sub-10 ratings I've ever seen for a drama season. I think that they are being punished for having two lousy seasons...
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the single was just released recently, so here it is:Erdbeerbox wrote:
Btw, is there a download link or anything for the ending song? It's so totally addictive.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=F2AQSI6T
Mannnnnnn. When I picked up this drama to watch, I didn't think it would become my all-time favourite drama (Orange Days coming a close second), but it has done it. Serious kudos to the staff and actors who did a great job. I love the director. He did both "Death Note" movies fantastically, and this drama just as fantastic.
I'm terribly disappointed that this drama didn't get the ratings it deserves.
Ah, great stuff. I'm tempted to buy the DVD set now.
I'm terribly disappointed that this drama didn't get the ratings it deserves.
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