[Discussion] Freeter, Ie wo Kau (Ninomiya Kazunari, Karina)
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[Discussion] Freeter, Ie wo Kau (Ninomiya Kazunari, Karina)
Freeter, Ie wo Kau a.k.a. Furiitaa, Ie wo Kau
Time: Tuesdays 9.00 pm
Starting Date: 19 Oct 2010
Plot: The story is based on a book of the same name by Hiro Arikawa, published last year. The story revolves around a young man named Seiji Take (Ninomiya), who quits his job after three months. With no dreams, no savings, and a poor relationship with his family, he becomes a hikikomori (shut-in) in his own room. However, after his mother falls ill with depression, he ends up having to take on a part-time job at a construction site. Because of that, he soon decides to work towards rebuilding his life: "Even though I'm just a freeter, I'm going to buy a house for the sake of my family." One of the people he meets at the construction site is Manami Chiba (Karina), who graduated from a top-class university and joined a well-known general contracting firm. Manami, proud to be working as an on-site supervisor, is the complete opposite of Seiji. But while their personalities clash at first, they gradually come to understand each other.
Cast: Ninomiya Kazunari, Karina, Igawa Haruka, Maruyama Ryuhei, Shima Daisuke, Otomo Kohei, Washio Machiko, Sakaguchi Ryoko, Takenaka Naoto, Asano Atsuko
English subs : (Hard) STORMY team sub + (Hard) freeter_ohno @a_ra_shi lj
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Softsubs are available now! Thanks to earthcolors!
Check this post http://www.d-addicts.com/forum/viewtopic_96365.htm
Time: Tuesdays 9.00 pm
Starting Date: 19 Oct 2010
Plot: The story is based on a book of the same name by Hiro Arikawa, published last year. The story revolves around a young man named Seiji Take (Ninomiya), who quits his job after three months. With no dreams, no savings, and a poor relationship with his family, he becomes a hikikomori (shut-in) in his own room. However, after his mother falls ill with depression, he ends up having to take on a part-time job at a construction site. Because of that, he soon decides to work towards rebuilding his life: "Even though I'm just a freeter, I'm going to buy a house for the sake of my family." One of the people he meets at the construction site is Manami Chiba (Karina), who graduated from a top-class university and joined a well-known general contracting firm. Manami, proud to be working as an on-site supervisor, is the complete opposite of Seiji. But while their personalities clash at first, they gradually come to understand each other.
Cast: Ninomiya Kazunari, Karina, Igawa Haruka, Maruyama Ryuhei, Shima Daisuke, Otomo Kohei, Washio Machiko, Sakaguchi Ryoko, Takenaka Naoto, Asano Atsuko
English subs : (Hard) STORMY team sub + (Hard) freeter_ohno @a_ra_shi lj
LiveJournal Community
Official Site
Edit:
Softsubs are available now! Thanks to earthcolors!
Check this post http://www.d-addicts.com/forum/viewtopic_96365.htm
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120s CM - subbed on YT
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This will be Nino's first starring role in a drama since Ryusei no Kizuna in 2008. I'm looking forward to this human drama!
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^yeah me too~ the teaser was intriguing, and i've missed him act in a human drama.
but what makes it more interesting is that there's also a love story. now i won't exactly be hoping for super giddy-worthy scenes (i've experienced disappointment because of Tokujo Kabachi), but it's NinoXKarina! i am happy no matter what.
~jae
PS has anyone announced soft subs?
but what makes it more interesting is that there's also a love story. now i won't exactly be hoping for super giddy-worthy scenes (i've experienced disappointment because of Tokujo Kabachi), but it's NinoXKarina! i am happy no matter what.
~jae
PS has anyone announced soft subs?
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juz asking
erm... to get subs from stormy team is by joining their community rite? but it seems they are pretty strict in choosing who may join them... so.. does that mean there is no possibilities for a non member like me to watch this drama?
Just watched the first episode. I thought the topic was handled very well. The freeter in this doesn't seem to have much problems other than his lack of direction and stability, so on average I think it would be a bit worse than this, but the loss of self belief, social contact and its impact on family was all shown intelligently. When I read the initial synopsis, I thought it could be a bit cheesy but I like this first episode. The second half went by very quickly and was over before I knew it. I found out afterwards that it's by one of my favourite writer, the one who wrote "The Way I Live" trilogy. A lot of promise, possibly the pick of the season, definitely looking forward to this. Karina only made a brief appearance, I was surprised by her lack of screen time, but her role will be important later on.
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What a pleasant surprise! I didn't expect much reading the synopsis. I watched ep1 because I was curious and didn't plan to continue watching. But it was GOOD!
I can identify with the lead character. (wanting to give up a thousand times a day) LOL
The plot is depressing but It sure made me want to work harder!
xploring, thanks for the info. so it was that writer! no wonder. I really like the Boku trilogy!
I'm bummed here. Too many things to watch this season. -_-;
I can identify with the lead character. (wanting to give up a thousand times a day) LOL
The plot is depressing but It sure made me want to work harder!
xploring, thanks for the info. so it was that writer! no wonder. I really like the Boku trilogy!
I'm bummed here. Too many things to watch this season. -_-;
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704 version can be downloaded from nomanymore's bloghideboy wrote:HI anyone can update this drama's 704 ×396 Xvid vergion????
http://nomanymore.blogspot.com/2010/10/ ... o-kau.html
Re: juz asking
Sad but true - no clue how they are selecting - really strange behavior - but it is their choice to show this bad appearancelittlevixxy wrote:erm... to get subs from stormy team is by joining their community rite? but it seems they are pretty strict in choosing who may join them... so.. does that mean there is no possibilities for a non member like me to watch this drama?
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There's a new subbing AND streaming group just posted their subbed videos at a_ra_shi community at LJ. The post is locked to community members only but I think its easier to be a member of a_ra_shi than Stormy. Those interested should give it a try. I'm not going to post a direct link to the post but you can search the community tags (sharing: streamingvid) after getting a membership. Hope more people can watch this drama
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again, the subs (soft and hard) can be easily downloaded from nomanymore's blog.
http://nomanymore.blogspot.com/2010/10/ ... o-kau.html
I know I sound like his/her representatives or something hahaha
http://nomanymore.blogspot.com/2010/10/ ... o-kau.html
I know I sound like his/her representatives or something hahaha
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^what parts that made you feel it was hard to watch?
I breezed through the second episode compared to the first. It took me awhile to finish the first half of the first episode. It was an excellent pilot nonetheless. I was like this > during the credit roll and Hatenai Sora is playing. This drama and the theme songs hits a nail.
I like how the story is progressing in the 2nd episode and it made me impatient to watch the 3rd.
Here's a review by WM. Penn at Daily Yomiuri:
I breezed through the second episode compared to the first. It took me awhile to finish the first half of the first episode. It was an excellent pilot nonetheless. I was like this > during the credit roll and Hatenai Sora is playing. This drama and the theme songs hits a nail.
I like how the story is progressing in the 2nd episode and it made me impatient to watch the 3rd.
Here's a review by WM. Penn at Daily Yomiuri:
Its a good review if you are wonderingTELEVIEWS / Fuji TV offers hope in TV land
Freeter, Ie o Kau (Tuesdays, 9 p.m.) also has a great cast and the story is believable and realistically done. It's so realistic, I was feeling very grumpy by the end of it. I wanted to yell: Relax, everybody, and stop making each other's lives more difficult.
Seiji (Arashi's Kazunari Ninomiya) is an average guy turned into a freeter (short-term worker) by his pride and prevailing corporate and societal values.
Employed by a medium-sized company, he's appalled by the silliness of the new-hire training session at a "dojo," where it's considered appropriate to whack with a long stick those who don't perform as ordered. Nor does logic prevail in the office, where a tyrannical department head rules.
I couldn't help sympathizing when Seiji quit after just three months, but his father (Naoto Takenaka), a stubborn, old-school corporate warrior, views his decision as weak and selfish. Resilient at first, Seiji interviews at other companies, where, as his father predicted, quitting is held against him. He tries various part-time jobs, but after a year, he is defeated and holed up in his room playing computer games.
Meanwhile, his supportive, long-suffering, stay-at-home mother is found huddled on the kitchen floor repeatedly mumbling "sorry" and "excuse me." She is diagnosed with depression. His father blames it all on Seiji. The true cause isThe family crisis does jolt Seiji into taking a 10,000 yen-a-day construction site job where he meets Manami (Karina), a civil engineering grad who wants to build bridges. She'll help him get his life back on track. If the title is any indicator, this one will have a happy ending--it translates as "A freeter buys a house"--but it's not exactly relaxing viewing.
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This dorama is so serious and realistic it reminds me of 90th dark doramas. And I really like it! I can deeply sympathize with characters because their problems seems so real. Though sometimes it becomes really hard and painful to watch because of such an involvement with the characters.
I also impressed by the cast. The whole crew is just amazing! So much pleasure to watch when no one overacts. Father's angry tirades, mother's depression, Seiji's regrets and tears - these all are so easy to overact and yet everyone done it so well.
Definitely my favorite dorama this season ^^
I also impressed by the cast. The whole crew is just amazing! So much pleasure to watch when no one overacts. Father's angry tirades, mother's depression, Seiji's regrets and tears - these all are so easy to overact and yet everyone done it so well.
Definitely my favorite dorama this season ^^
Cant believe this drama isnt getting more attention.
Thought it would be a comedy at first but oh no i got something totally else. And i love it.
Definately one of the best this season.
Been a while since i watched a jdrama like this. This serious, dark and realistic.
This season really is amazing. Oh japan i love you
Thought it would be a comedy at first but oh no i got something totally else. And i love it.
Definately one of the best this season.
Been a while since i watched a jdrama like this. This serious, dark and realistic.
This season really is amazing. Oh japan i love you
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If you don't want to deal with nomanymore.blogspot.com (I got hit with sooo many redirects and junk while there! Ugh! It made me very glad I run Linux) the people that are subbing Freeter posted upload links to the a_ra_shi livejournal community. That's http://community.livejournal.com/a_ra_shi/profile. Membership is open (you just need to have a livejournal account) and the relevant entry is tagged uploads: freeter
I watched the first episode this evening, it was really good. I think the favorite part was the mother's story, because it felt real. I'm looking forward to watching the next episode when I have time!
I watched the first episode this evening, it was really good. I think the favorite part was the mother's story, because it felt real. I'm looking forward to watching the next episode when I have time!
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What really get's me angry about this otherwise great drama is the way they treat depression. Does anybody actually live in Japan and knows something about it? Because if they way of treatment is giving some medicine and hoping that everything will become better magically - it's just the most stupid thing I ever heard and I hope I'll never get depressive in Japan. The mother is suicidal for god's sake. Of course, Seiji is totally overstrained - they can not possibly believe he has the ability to make it better, he's not a therapist - he's a family member. And these scenes at the hospital where the doctor talks to the relatives and the mother is practically thrown out of the room, as if she isn't involved at all. What about therapy? I mean even if she has to be hospitalized they cannot really think she'll just recover like this, even if they move. There is something fundamentally wrong here.
I think this is more of a Japanese social issue, not just an issue within the Freeter dramaverse. They are still behind in certain aspects of medical treatment. It's sad, but true.MaiKitty wrote:What really get's me angry about this otherwise great drama is the way they treat depression. Does anybody actually live in Japan and knows something about it? Because if they way of treatment is giving some medicine and hoping that everything will become better magically - it's just the most stupid thing I ever heard and I hope I'll never get depressive in Japan. The mother is suicidal for god's sake. Of course, Seiji is totally overstrained - they can not possibly believe he has the ability to make it better, he's not a therapist - he's a family member. And these scenes at the hospital where the doctor talks to the relatives and the mother is practically thrown out of the room, as if she isn't involved at all. What about therapy? I mean even if she has to be hospitalized they cannot really think she'll just recover like this, even if they move. There is something fundamentally wrong here.
I dunno... in Love Shuffle, Kiku-rin was a psychologist with Kairi as his patient and she was suicidal... (her dad never attended her sessions either so she wasn't excluded in HER issues) it's not like therapy doesn't exist in Japan, but I'm not sure how the whole set-up is over there... like what's the procedures to get therapy and how much it cost and so-forth. People should know taking medicine for a psychological issue is not going to fix your perception of things... it will only help, or be a crutch (like glasses doesn't permanently fix your vision) but talking to the person and helping them overcome, will. (not just talking to the family members who don't even have the depression issue)saayan wrote:I think this is more of a Japanese social issue, not just an issue within the Freeter dramaverse. They are still behind in certain aspects of medical treatment. It's sad, but true.MaiKitty wrote:What really get's me angry about this otherwise great drama is the way they treat depression. Does anybody actually live in Japan and knows something about it? Because if they way of treatment is giving some medicine and hoping that everything will become better magically - it's just the most stupid thing I ever heard and I hope I'll never get depressive in Japan. The mother is suicidal for god's sake. Of course, Seiji is totally overstrained - they can not possibly believe he has the ability to make it better, he's not a therapist - he's a family member. And these scenes at the hospital where the doctor talks to the relatives and the mother is practically thrown out of the room, as if she isn't involved at all. What about therapy? I mean even if she has to be hospitalized they cannot really think she'll just recover like this, even if they move. There is something fundamentally wrong here.
Ohh Kiku-rin Though, I don't know if he's the best example to use to represent Japanese psychologists. I mean, his methods were pretty dang crazy and unethical...but all's well that ends well?«minah» wrote: I dunno... in Love Shuffle, Kiku-rin was a psychologist with Kairi as his patient and she was suicidal... (her dad never attended her sessions either so she wasn't excluded in HER issues) it's not like therapy doesn't exist in Japan, but I'm not sure how the whole set-up is over there... like what's the procedures to get therapy and how much it cost and so-forth. People should know taking medicine for a psychological issue is not going to fix your perception of things... it will only help, or be a crutch (like glasses doesn't permanently fix your vision) but talking to the person and helping them overcome, will. (not just talking to the family members who don't even have the depression issue)
Joking aside, I didn't mean to imply therapy treatment doesn't exist in Japan. What it all boils down to is what hospital you go to and how open the patient/patient's family is. Speaking from personal experience, on a whole, Japan is still behind compared to the West regarding such treatment. There's like this stigma associated with counseling...almost as if "seeing a psychologist" = "you're crazy." Fortunately, this seems to be changing, slowly but surely.
It's funny you say "There's like this stigma associated with counseling...almost as if "seeing a psychologist" = "you're crazy." because that's kinda how it is in the Black community (well, in the US anyway) that it kinda has that association of being "crazy" if one goes to therapy. But it's sad that people have that kinda attitude though. Because I actually think we're all a bit "crazy" but some people can hold it in and deal with it more than others while others... they just have that breaking point.
But yeah...... I guess you're right. But still... even the husband (well, he doesn't really care) and Nino should know she's not getting any better by leaving her alone practically... but they're men >__>
But yeah...... I guess you're right. But still... even the husband (well, he doesn't really care) and Nino should know she's not getting any better by leaving her alone practically... but they're men >__>
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That's because both groups are only doing hardsubs for this drama! Btw, freeter_ohno do stream their releases as well.srius wrote:i did go to the site mentioned but it got only the hardsubs..«minah» wrote:If you read the thread, you might find out ^_^srius wrote:any 1 know where i can find the english soft subs??
The best Japanese drama of 2010, with no runner-up
That, unfortunately, is standard practice in Japan. It is normal for the doctor to discuss the facts of the case with relatives only and to withhold his opinion from the patient himself. I was told that on signup forms for hospitals there are check boxes whether or not you want to be told of a serious condition.MaiKitty wrote:And these scenes at the hospital where the doctor talks to the relatives and the mother is practically thrown out of the room, as if she isn't involved at all.
There is this attitude that if patients knew how serious the situation is (especially in cases of cancer, which somehow has a special status in Japan), "it might kill them". They might lose their will to live, something I can't understand. If I was ill, I'd be the first who would want to know.
Japanese doctors tend to be heavy on the prescription side, if you see a doctor for any condition, you'll rarely leave without a prescription, even for a common cold and often it will be two or three different pills for who knows what. Medical insurance pays them for writing prescriptions.
I can't say much about treatment of depression per se, but when in my father in law's final years he was drinking heavily, had sleeping problems and in my opinion was suffering from depression, we never heard about the doctor suggesting any kind of therapy, other than prescribing sleeping pills. He did frankly ask my father in law though if he was trying to kill himself through his drinking, which was not compatible with taking sleeping pills (very hard on the liver)
"Furiita, ie wo kau" in my opinion is the best Japanese drama of 2010, with no runner-up.
It is unusually realistic in its storytelling. The pace is kind of slow and steady but yet the story is tense. Other dramas are so exaggerated in everything, full of staged, artificial drama and over-the-top emotions. "Furiita" is refreshingly natural by Japanese standards. Even its film music is subtle.
This script was written by someone who watches real people rather than reading manga for inspiration. I think it will inspire people to think about what is important in life to them.
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Re: The best Japanese drama of 2010, with no runner-up
Ogose wrote: This script was written by someone who watches real people rather than reading manga for inspiration. I think it will inspire people to think about what is important in life to them.
I also found this article interesting..
'Freeter' drama reflects Japan's income gap By PHILIP BRASOR
The American media keeps wondering whether or not the United States will have to endure a "lost decade" of sluggish growth and stagnant employment like the one Japan suffered through after the real-estate bubble burst in the early 1990s. It seems unlikely. The American economy is dynamic while Japan's has always been passive and reactive. Nevertheless, the so-called American dream is likely a thing of the past. The gap between the rich and everyone else is growing by the minute, and in that sense Japan is an appropriate example.
click here to read more
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Thanks for the article also to Ogose about your explanation on Japan's standard medical practice.
I'm loving the way they depicted the family. The dialogue amongst Take seems simple but there's layers of emotion going on. Surprisingly, the scene that felt so striking to me was in episode 5 when Seiji was.... I think not a lot of people would agree with me but I thought that scene was brilliant.
Going backwards to episode 4 which is my favorite, we can see that Seiji is still very much a selfish brat despite going all out with his effort to help his mother. I felt it was wrong the way Seiji reacted after ...
So what do you guys think about episode 4 and 5?
I'm loving the way they depicted the family. The dialogue amongst Take seems simple but there's layers of emotion going on. Surprisingly, the scene that felt so striking to me was in episode 5 when Seiji was....
Going backwards to episode 4 which is my favorite, we can see that Seiji is still very much a selfish brat despite going all out with his effort to help his mother. I felt it was wrong the way Seiji reacted after ...
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Yes, it's available @our hour LJ herepegasaurus wrote:Has anyone seen a copy of episode 7 anywhere? It aired last Tuesday and I still can't seem to find it anywhere. It would be a shame if this show suddenly stopped getting uploaded; it seems like a lot of people are really enjoying it (me included).
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Yay, thank you so much!!MisS Lonliah wrote:Yes, it's available @our hour LJ herepegasaurus wrote:Has anyone seen a copy of episode 7 anywhere? It aired last Tuesday and I still can't seem to find it anywhere. It would be a shame if this show suddenly stopped getting uploaded; it seems like a lot of people are really enjoying it (me included).
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No problem! ;)pegasaurus wrote:Yay, thank you so much!!MisS Lonliah wrote:Yes, it's available @our hour LJ herepegasaurus wrote:Has anyone seen a copy of episode 7 anywhere? It aired last Tuesday and I still can't seem to find it anywhere. It would be a shame if this show suddenly stopped getting uploaded; it seems like a lot of people are really enjoying it (me included).
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i really enjoy this drama. very down to earth, and many aspect were very true and not dramatize..
for example, seiji's character, is so typical of fresh graduates. complaining about this and that of their job, setting unrealistic expectation when finding a job, etc.
and what happen among the family members, like how seiji and his dad will always quarrel after just speaking a few words.
for example, seiji's character, is so typical of fresh graduates. complaining about this and that of their job, setting unrealistic expectation when finding a job, etc.
and what happen among the family members, like how seiji and his dad will always quarrel after just speaking a few words.
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I totally agree with you! This drama/story looks very simple from outside yet too deep in the inside. I liked all the little discussions/arguments because they seemed very close to our reality. I have to say that the first half of the drama was stronger/better than the second half, but it was a very good drama comparing to the rest of the dramas we had in 2010!totemokakkoii wrote:many aspect were very true and not dramatize..
Subtitles for Ep05 & 06 found.
They need to be formatted however.
http://andaminghish.livejournal.com/
They need to be formatted however.
http://andaminghish.livejournal.com/
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I 'm watching ep 3 now!!
This is very exciting!!
I feel like beating out the father for going out with a girl of his daughter's age. And at such a time!
However, I understand where they came from. People stealing and selling their subs is one thing, but they really have to watch out for a lawsuit or something like that if Johnny's ever find out. And it's their subs to begin with, so they can do whatever they want. Sad, but true..
This is very exciting!!
I feel like beating out the father for going out with a girl of his daughter's age. And at such a time!
Well yeah, it's a little frustrating how it is super duper hard to join STORMY! I applied and failed >.<Feeder_Fan wrote:Yeah. btw the elitist VIP access crap done by STORMY to get the subs is really annoying and against fansub philosophy.
However, I understand where they came from. People stealing and selling their subs is one thing, but they really have to watch out for a lawsuit or something like that if Johnny's ever find out. And it's their subs to begin with, so they can do whatever they want. Sad, but true..
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