what do u think when u see your idol naked in magazines?

[caramelchampagne]

i start this topic coz i'm under shock now i'm a new fan of japanese dorama but while i was searching about new news of ma fav actors i got strick by lightning when i read articles and see some photos of
akanishi jin
yamapi ..yamashita tomohisa
mukai osama

and thier shooting photos for an an magazine that was ewwwww i don't know what makes them accept to do somthing like that realy it's not so good for thier image and as far as i know johny's want cleanish image for the boys so WHAT DA HELL THEY WERE THINKING AT THIS TIME i used to respect yamapi alot now i feel so shocked AND JIN photos IT WAS simply DIRTYYYYYYY and porn and way too much over they already celeb they don't even need to do this to gain more fame i wonder how they deal with it when thier familes watch these crap [/color]

[caramelchampagne]

I HOPE TOMA IKUTA WON'T BE NEXT AND I THINK AFTER YAMAPI PHOTO SHOOTING IT COURAGE AKINASHI TO GO FOR IT TOO:( kame run away looooooooool

[mowgwie]

You obviously have some real prudish issues about nudity. I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. And sorry, nude photographs are not pornography! Especially the very mild kind they are likely to print in fan magazines.

[Karate-ka]

Cultures are diffrent Japan is very free in that kind of stuff.

[Tass]

Honey,...
first off: I would have read your post even it weren't written in big red letters.
Use the normal font without bright colors.
It's good enough for us, it will do the job for you as well.

It's funny to see how you react. A naked chest, spilled some water over their muscular arms?
Those photos are considerate fanservice in japan. It's the most normal thing there.
Even in the rest of the world it's not a big deal (American hillbillies aside) but you as a girl from egypt almost got a heart attack.
I mean, they're good looking. It's not that you were looking at pictures of me.
Why don't you enjoy it?
I find it very interesting to see all those different cultures interact, thanks to the internet.

Take it as a chance to learn something new.

BTW: yamapi is tinyyyyy~

[mowgwie]

Your post says Yamapi is tiny - did they really show "that"? Oh, my - where can I see the pictures????

[skirara]

I am going to be completely honest to the question "What do you think when you see your idol naked in magazines?" Several thoughts come across my mind.

Firstly, "Wow, I'd hit that." Secondly, "I wonder if he really is tiny." Thirdly, "I took photography, I wonder if I could get a career that involves naked japanese idols...."

Fanservice sells. If there were a choice of magazines, one with a naked Yamapi insert, and one without, I do wonder what the majority of us would buy......

[ayaseharukaftw]

I think to myself.. I WANT THAT! If you don't like what you see just ignore it and see your favorite idols as whatever they are. I don't see what the big deal is.

[caramelchampagne]

looool to skirara when i read you reply i liked your honesty any way thanx for being so honest
but any way guys i respect your point of view and i hope u respect mine too

[TofuQueen]

Hmm well...it really depends...

If it's a situation where the celebrity is ALWAYS showing up nude, then I'd have a negative reaction to that person, something like, "oh, they're just banking on sex appeal, probably have zero talent" and while I might enjoy some of the photos I wouldn't have a very high opinion of that person.

If the photos are just tasteless or trashy looking, then I wouldn't enjoy 'em AND my opinion of that person would go down.

However, if they're occasional and nicely done, I have no problems with it at all.

My favorite J-pop group is Arashi, also Johnny's idols, and while they've done some nude/nearly nude photos, in the majority of their photos they're clothed.

Edit - meant to say but forgot, that I haven't seen any of the photos referred to in the original message & don't even know who Edison Chen is, nevermind what his photo scandal was about.

[caramelchampagne]

well akanishi jin photos for me it was so trashy i'm not the only one who is saying that even u can check the comment that was written under those photos most of negative comments actually was for the photos of matsumoto jun and akanashi jin that was puplished in AN AN magazine and you can google it but can any one plz tell me what johny's point of view of the "clean image " oh and if we imagine that some of these photos was for exmple of one of hollywood celeb. ppl in usa i think will consider it as scandel or they just will be happy about it
by the way i'm not against your ideas guys but i wanna know how ppl will react and think about this issue

[Melissa100]

There have been cases where I thought a little less of a woman who did nudity but I'm always happy to see male nudity. I guess that makes me a hypocrite.

To Caramelchampagne, I can see where you are coming from. If you fell for someone because of their innocent image then seeing them doing something overtly sexual could be a real turn off.

[Puppet Princess]

Um.... WTF?

Edison Chen's situation is not even in the same freaking ballpark as Japanese johnny's boys posing in magazines half nude.

Other than the fact that China and Japan have different views about nudity and porn... well, that is the difference. One is just nudity the other was porn.

Johnny's boys are getting paid to pose semi-nude in published magazines.

Edison's scandal was because they were private pictures of his sexcapades with his past girlfriends that were stolen. It was actually porn with genitalia engaging in sexual activities being VERY visible. He didn't get paid for this and it wasn't a photo shoot. It was an invasion of privacy. While no one was shocked by the fact that Edison was a naughty boy when he was younger (that everyone knew), the issue was more about the fact that several very famous women who were well off and married with children since they stopped dating Edison YEARS ago were tarnished with the photos along with Edison.

So please, do not compare things like Yamapi's LV shoot to Edison's homemade porn. It's not the same and it's insulting to all parties to say they are.

And for the record. Edison only had to drop his career in China for the unforeseeable future. He is still working in North America though.

[Basuha]

@ tass your are sick lol Yamapi is tiny rotfl...........It not that I THOUGHT he was big but tiny? lollollol you killing me! Oh yeah I don't see nothing wrong with photo or even bed scenes. I personal perfer when the actor shows his butt, especially if it's as nice as Kim Rae Won in (Plum Blossom) or Kwon Kye Sang in (Moonlight in Seoul). They may not know how to kiss, but they do nice bed scenes in (MOVIES) of course. God forbid if they do an proper kiss in these damm drama I'm hooked on!

[Harle]

After reading this topic, it's pretty obvious someone is not getting any.
Second, what kind of lousy porn have you been watching to compare it to the photos of An.An magazine?

And Third: you shouldn't compare a sex scandal (Edison Chen's) to the pictures of that prestigious magazine. Only the ones who are at the peak of their careers have gotten the honor to pose nude for An.An The ones who have the best pictures of all time are Kimura Takuya and Akanishi Jin. They're the only ones who made the photoshoot look natural and believable.
Everyone (Kamenashi's fans, I mean) was so sure he was the one from KAT-TUN who was going to pose naked for that photoshoot you hate so much, so it was really surprising to realize that the one who was actually asked to appear was Jin.
(Even though Kame has worked his ass off , he hasn't been invited by the producers to do so... maybe because he might not be interesting enough for them, even though he can be seen everywhere).

Artistic/ Nasty/ Trashy/ Something that's completely normal/ A way to appreciate the beauty of the naked body...
That's for everyone to judge... based on our own repressions and downright ignorance.

[Mirokujin]

Can Kame fans leave Jin alone? (no, I'm not talking about all kame fans, but I'm talking about kame fans like this caramelchampagne My friend just told me what she did here and in kame thread).

BTW, Jin in ANAN this year doesn't mean your Kame won't be naked in ANAN with a female model next year...

[menaine]

I was really shock at first time i saw Yamapi's An an
But after a while (a couple months) i ignored it
I realized there is a wide difference of my country culture and japan culture
But still in my point a view (regarding to my culture) I disagree with that picture

I HOPE TOMA IKUTA WON'T BE NEXT

i doubt that

jun appear in An an around HYD movie launching
Yamapi around Kurosagi movie launching
Jin around bandage movuei aroud

in my predict toma is the next, with his 2 movies for 2010 or 2011?
I don't know if it has correlative or no, but i'm worried, oh i don't wanna see Toma doing that job

[Peggy]

There is nothing more beautiful than a perfect human body. Ancient Greek sculptures and even some ancient Egyptian bas reliefs show nude forms. Nothing wrong with nature.

The AnAn photos are not pornagraphic at all. They are very well done, and the photographer has been very careful to arrange every detail so that what you see is only magnified in your own vision.

The original early photos of Kimura were very well done and not offensive in any way. Sensual..yes... even a little cheeky (pardon the pun) but nothing to get alarmed about at all.

Peggy

[caramelchampagne]

Can Kame fans leave Jin alone? (no, I'm not talking about all kame fans, but I'm talking about kame fans like this caramelchampagne...

by the way i like akanishi jin too may be some of you got me wrong that i'm attacking those actors coz\ i hate them i'm giving example in general about the issue not useing it to take sides i mentioned those names coz those idols photos where in the article i was reading that is all

and i tryied to see your openion guys to understand other point of views do those idoles need to go through these kind of photo shooting to increase thier popularity or keeping working hard on thier singing career or choosing good plot for dramas that they act in is more important

i'm sorry if any one was under impression that i hate those actor that i mentiond thier names or provoking thier fans if i wasn't a fan of them too iwon't go throught google searching for news about them as i mentioned b4 i'm a new fan of jp drama so i wanted to know more about those actors i used to watch korean dramas yes there is some nude scene in thier movies too but actually i didn't see by any chance a nude photos for them puplished while i was just searcing about thier news but when i typed yamapi name which by the way i really like most of his songs and i'm crazy about his dramas

so while searching i found link in google was talking about an an and the photo shooting it was a blog in the same blog they were talking about other idols who go through same thing in da same magazine so i mentioned thier name as example that is all but till now i'm convinced "may coz it's against ma culture that they don't need to do it " and i think menaine agree with me
in those 2 blogs u will find ppl with and ppl against u can read thier comments and those 2 blogs that i mentioned b4 that i found the article on
http://flytohigh.wordpress.com/2008/02/ ... i-in-anan/
http://itismydream.over-blog.com/100-index.html
any way even we agreed or not agreed still respecting ur point of view and thanx for taking time reading and sharing ur openion
my poll question was about the issue in general the poll wasn't about specific names

[outcast_within]

there exist naked pictures of yamapi? lol i got to find them to show em to a girl i know

[aznlilboiz]

nudity is pretty normal, i think. also, people welling to do anything to survive is this world.....so, im fine with seeing celebrities naked.

[totemokakkoii]

interesting topic.

though none who did it in Anan were my idols, I was initially shocked when i realised they actually did that. but after a while.. i was like "ok.. whatever.." things like that, i guess just needs to take some time to 'get use to' and to accept the different in culture.

but frankly speaking no matter how much i like a particular actor, i would still prefer to see him fully clothed fashionably, rather than au natural. cos to speak the truth, they are just idols, i still hope to leave some form of 'distance' between me and him. seeing him au natural, it is like "alright.. so there's nothing to hide" haha.. the kinda of 'distance' and respect or admiration kinda feelings will be gone.

ps: i have idols who posed semi nude in pictorial books.. and i have cpme with terms about it.. lol

and ps: i totally won't want to see toma-kun naked... haha.. i mean he is supposed to be cute, not sexy/hot/sensual. totally wrong image.

[JaJe]

You´re talking about ANAN photos?
Well...
1) ANAN is that kind of magazine that makes this kind of pictures - and this kind of pictures are called art too.
2) YamaPi isn´t and hasn´t got tiny - trust me - if a guy has a tiny, then he wouldn´t do such photo shoots!
3) Only guys who are totally confident about their look and sex appeal are able to do such photo shoots.
4) NO "IT" isn´t shown there - that would be called porn, but as it isn´t, it´s called art.
5) If my idol wants to do it, then I should support him with all my might!

I have no problem with seeing my idol naked in a magazine (I already have), I only pray that my mother won´t have the chance to see those pictures

[taylor]

me either

[SweR]

i think japanese people don't mokind that
actully alot of people find this OK
about myself i feel disgust if i see that @@
thanx god that i didn't see any until now ><

[koyuki-chan]

IMHO for me, it's only part of their job. fullstop.

i think i will be proud if my idol is featured into an art. yes, i say it's an art.. is not porn which you can compare to Edison Chan. Totally different.

Not everyone can be chosen or can produce that kind of photoshoot. Not everyone are confident enough to show their sex appeal, i agree with that. I don't see any porn at all in their picture and the photos helps its artist to boost his popularity so why not?

[dattebayoXD]

Hello ^^
Well, I really like those half-naked photos xDD Well, everyone has those amazing bodies, so why not show them off? xD
Well, although I sometimes get disturbed with those completely naked shots...Like Okada Junichi xDD he was the first idol's naked photos I saw , but after that, more and more popped out, so i kind of got used to them xDDD Although i still don't drool over them, but if the idols themselves have nothing against it, isn't it ok? :o

[piii]

i think it's okay,i like those pics becuz it's more than i could even imagine to see of them xD~ ...

[PapaiyaMangô]

I'm okay with male idols getting naked. I think it's nice, pretty and hilarious.
But I totally disagree when it comes to female idols. It's scandalous. Because when female idols get naked, I don't think they do that on their own. Plus they downgrade the image of feminine beauty so it's a prejudice against sexuality.

[Néa Vanille]

In response to the question:

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sums is up pretty well, lol.

Japan in general has always been very accepting of the naked human body and seen it as 'natural', relative to other cultures (while in contrast to some of these other cultures, the Japanese tend to frown more upon public affection -- I think both is a-okay. )

[stephieru]

I really think that it all depends on your culture or even how old you are, or maybe even how media corrupted you are (not that being corrupted is a bad thing, i for one have been corrupted for years). But for places like Japan where a simple half/fully naked picture would be rated R or NC-17 in other cultures could even be Rated PG or G in another. It really depends on the public's personal view to whoever is doing that shoot. Yes people could be offended but it's not like they show anything bad.

[HIRMU]

I don't really think that i would enjoy watching pictures of naked men, hmm....

[Karate-ka]

I don't really think that i would enjoy watching pictures of naked men, hmm....

Gee i wonder why lol

[Tadanga]

I remember being devastated when I first saw Hamasaki Ayumi's "photobook" a few years back.
So I can relate to your disappointment.

I pity how all these artists have forsaken any control over their person and body, anything goes to squeeze another yen from fans.

All those rumors about "give-away" contracts only confirm that these young people have sold themselves into slavery to become stars.

[Mai-Soon]

"I think a man's sexiness isn't about how he models his body. It's how he brings out more expressions, so to speak. I have no idea how everyone will view my appearance this time, but I'll be happy if girls will turn to it with a sexy glance. But to be honest, it's very embarrassing (laughs)."

this quote is by Sakurai Sho during his photo shot in An-An...

i'm from Egypt as well where nude photo-shot is a no-no not an ART...but i fully understand the differences of Traditions and cultures....


so i didn't feel anything when i saw my fav idols nude photos..because as i mentioned above i know the differences

but what annoys me is some people didn't understand that there are a lot of other cultures that don't accept this...they took it as if we are narrow-minded or retards ...

just as someone said here...

If you don't like what you see just ignore it

..


& don't try to force the others to be like you

[RivFader]

I don't feel the need to see my favourite actresses/idols naked.

For example Yoshino Kimika...
I really liked her in the first two Eko Eko Azarak movies and Gozu.
I was really disappointed when she did some kind of obscure AV movie.
I would rather have her do small B-movie parts than such kind of crap!!!

I hope actresses like Kitagawa Keiko, Fukada Kyoko or Ueto Aya won't do that later!
Probably not, because they are already bigger actresses then Yoshino Kimika ever was.

[ayaseharukaftw]

I don't feel the need to see my favourite actresses/idols naked.

For example Yoshino Kimika...
I really liked her in the first two Eko Eko Azarak movies and Gozu.
I was really disappointed when she did some kind of obscure AV movie.
I would rather have her do small B-movie parts than such kind of crap!!!

I hope actresses like Kitagawa Keiko, Fukada Kyoko or Ueto Aya won't do that later!
Probably not, because they are already bigger actresses then Yoshino Kimika ever was.

Kyoko and Aya have done gravure work before.

[JaJe]

HAHA Now you´ve got it!!!
Guess who´s in ANAN nr 1705

Yep you´re right! That´s the one and only idol you didn´t want to see in ANAN : Ikuta Toma! (At least he is alone in these and well let me say it: he even looks a little bit hot - he´s not my type other wise )

[Karate-ka]

and thus the triangle is complete.

[totemokakkoii]

HAHA Now you´ve got it!!!
Guess who´s in ANAN nr 1705

Yep you´re right! That´s the one and only idol you didn´t want to see in ANAN : Ikuta Toma! (At least he is alone in these and well let me say it: he even looks a little bit hot - he´s not my type other wise )

I was "devastated" when i first knew about it.. i was like "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"... then when i saw the pictures.. ok.. at least they were more decent... no female model, no full butt (only some butt crack).. lol.. i din get a heart attack from seeing it... hahaha.... if he was to do some pic similar to akanishi jin, i will develop a heartache which last forever. lolz

[Reikaa]

i agree that nudity can be an art, but i think that depends of the connection that the photographer and the model have together. Also, the model's facial expression is essential to communicate with people who are seeing his pictures, cause a sexy picture can really become cheap porn just with the way that the model portrays it.

I only saw Toma's, Yamapi's, Sho's, Matsujun's and Kimutaku's and I gotta say: Yamapi's sucked. It's so strange that he's always soo sexy in NewS' DVDs that i watched, but in this photoshoot he was...ok. I think he has a really beautiful face, but in there he was...bizarre. It didn't seem like it's was him. Maybe he was uncomfortable, idk. But oh well, i gotta say, he has a really nice body! And the his picture in the shower with the girl was too much, i didn't think it was really sexy. The rest of Johnny's were really hot! Specially Kimutaku who seemed too comfortable that really shocked at first, but the whole photoshooting's compositions were really beautiful.

[totemokakkoii]

Specially Kimutaku who seemed too comfortable that really shocked at first, but the whole photoshooting's compositions were really beautiful.

wahahaha... probably he does that every other day..
kidding, fangirls please don't bash me!

[miznagase]

narimiya hiroki already posed semi-nude in anan
i saw those pictures, and he looks GORGEOUS!!!

[biraincute]

When I saw those pics I was like, "oooh~ so hot~" but I think there's nothing wrong with that. Its all fan service, to corrupt each fan girls' mind to love her beloved idol more. Jin's and Yamapi's were a little extreme but I think it boost their popularity.

[Peggy]

What's there to think? Just look..... and maybe find the magnifying glass.

Must say some of them should not bother..

Peg

[ooijanice]

What else except enjoy the sight................. to them its showmanship.

[mowgwie]

What's there to think? Just look..... and maybe find the magnifying glass.

Must say some of them should not bother..

Peg

I had to laugh when reading about looking for the magnifying glass! But what do you expect - they're Japanese.

[Peggy]

Oh..Mowgwie..

I was not casting any aspersions. I would do the same for any shapely bod.

Rudolph Nuryev has a lovely physique. worth a magnifyng glass
Kimura and
Shingo in the same category.

Peg

[Ethlenn]

Aigoo, we are peer-to-peer community. Based on sharing, right? Celebrites have also something to share. Let them.

Peggy: you almost made my heart stop with laughter...
(you know I'm very spoiled, naughty, dirty girl^^)

Plus, the second choice in the poll:
no it's humiliating and disrespect for the fans
How come it is humiliating? It doesn't humiliate me at least.
Disrespect?
So should I place them on the altar and chant their impeccability and genderless body? Heck, I speak as a girl: a nice man's body photographed in a nice photoshoot is... well, nice

[Peggy]

I really think there are still people who would put the fig leaves back on the David statue.

I can never understand the hangups still around about the human body.

It's that damned apple.

Peg

[Ethlenn]

This is called "false embarrassment".

It's that damned weak will.

[Fantastical]

so......how about a link to some of these pictures?

I mean are we seeing penis and dangling shaven scrotums or just some butt cheeks?
I can't make judgment until I see. so...someone send me a link in my ol' inbox

[Ethlenn]

No, those things are not visible. Just sometimes a piece of tush^^

[Fantastical]

oh come on!

SO then it's just the run of the mill french toilet water ads? I thogh it was throbbin veiny ding a lings...
So in essence it was no more worse than the bathing scenes in Chuno?

[Ethlenn]

Yup, basically this kind of.
see here:Some shoots

[Fantastical]

(looks at photos) All y'all hatin these photo are some jealous....nope..gonna keep it at least safe for work.
My god that ain't nuthin? You can't even see full ass cheek! Personally I am disappointed. But hey...

I say the edison chen pics and vids. Now that was racy...he did need to shave down there but that is another story. But this...this is just ....advertisement photos.
Hell, you can barely see HIS nipples!

[Zazaza29]

Sorry for reviving a dead thread, but I'm just curious -- anyone knows the full list of guys who have posed naked/semi-naked in An An?

The only ones I know of are:

- Takuya Kimura
- Okada Junichi
- Matsumoto Jun
- Yamapi
- Osamu Mukai
- Akanishi Jin
- Sakurai Sho

Anyone else?

(Seems like Mukai is the only guy who isn't a Johnny)

I heard there was a cycle of Johnny groups going on, like one person from Arashi (Jun), then NEWS (Yamapi), Kat-tun (Jin), then back to Arashi (Sho)... and what's this I hear about Ikuta Toma? >_> He's like the last person I expect to be posing for something like this... he's cutesy and adorable, but I don't view him as sexy.

[Keiko1981]

Sorry for reviving a dead thread, but I'm just curious -- anyone knows the full list of guys who have posed naked/semi-naked in An An?

The only ones I know of are:

- Takuya Kimura
- Okada Junichi
- Matsumoto Jun
- Yamapi
- Osamu Mukai
- Akanishi Jin
- Sakurai Sho

Anyone else?

(Seems like Mukai is the only guy who isn't a Johnny)

I heard there was a cycle of Johnny groups going on, like one person from Arashi (Jun), then NEWS (Yamapi), Kat-tun (Jin), then back to Arashi (Sho)... and what's this I hear about Ikuta Toma? >_> He's like the last person I expect to be posing for something like this... he's cutesy and adorable, but I don't view him as sexy.

Almost sure the musician GACKT has appeared in it.

[Reikaa]

For those who are curious about photos and who did it, there are some here: http://scanky-chops.livejournal.com/371614.html

[Zazaza29]

^ Thanks for the link! Wow... Ikuta Toma actually looks... hot 0_0 Am pleasantly surprised...

[sp4078]

It's a treat, girls and boys.

The only thing I dislike seeing is the skinny b!tch models getting action with those pretty boys. The photoshoots without the women are much more appreciated without distraction (at least for me).

And only few of them can actually pull off the naked-shoot without looking awkward and wanna be somewhere else.