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Post by The Chaos » Nov 29th, '10, 00:13

I hate their way of doing thing >__>

I want them to leave too but maybe the guys have plan for later :unsure:

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Post by esmer86 » Nov 29th, '10, 00:35

Ethlenn wrote:For all K-music lovers (and SHINee): 2010 Ulsan Culture Expo Concert 2010-10-08
It's 720 version, so beware!
SHINee is at the end of it^^

http://www.mediafire.com/?yy7jso398zxyhgs

Can I get some people to seed this and the JYJ W.W.Showcase. :unsure: I just discovered this now...tell me why I AM ALWAYS LATE AT THESE THINGS!!! :cussing:

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Post by Ethlenn » Nov 29th, '10, 14:42

I wish I could help with this, but since my PC crashed some time ago I lost this file and never get it back. Will look around.
Eeemm... talking about JYJ stuff...

Melon Charts 2010-11-28, 320 kB/s

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Post by Ethlenn » Dec 19th, '10, 13:33

Just to let everyone know:
DBSK's song for Athena OST will be out December 20th. Their project - January 5th.
But I guess everyone knows it already...

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Post by The Chaos » Dec 19th, '10, 13:36

I found the news today :D
one day till the new song is out ^ o ^

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Post by MisS Lonliah » Dec 20th, '10, 10:08

^ I listened to it & it sounded so-so to me! maybe because my mind wanted 5 voices not only 2!!!!! :mrgreen:
However, glad for them somehow & can't wait to start watching Athena with subs!!

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Post by MisS Lonliah » Dec 20th, '10, 10:12

oh btw dear Ethlenn let me thank you here! because I'm afraid of spoilers in the discussion thread!
A BIG THANK YOU! for recommending Secret Garden to me! I'm really grateful! :D
didn't expect that it would be this much enjoyable & crazy! :mrgreen:

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Post by The Chaos » Dec 20th, '10, 10:24

^ I just heard it and Really awesome as always :wub: would be better if the 5 voices togather but its Yunho ~ ♥

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Post by Ethlenn » Dec 20th, '10, 17:27

Oh, MisS Lonliah, glad you like the drama. Our crazy bunch is completely addicted to it^^

Well, me not liking JYJ album too, but what can I do? Buy a ticket to Korea to get their autographes I guess... There is no going back together, which is good, cause... well, you can keep Yunho, Chaos chan^^
At least SM Ent (*curse*curse*) withdrew the claim for broadcast stations.

Link to Melon Charts 2010-12-18. Not usual 100 but 156 tracks^^
Happy listening, and below are tracks names, in Korean though.
001 아이유 - 좋은 날.mp3
002 씨스타 - 니까짓게.mp3
003 GD&TOP - HIGH HIGH.mp3
004 GD & T.O.P - OH YEAH (Feat. 박봄).mp3
005 티아라 - 왜 이러니.mp3
006 태연 - 사랑해요 (I Love You).mp3
007 백지영 - 그여자.mp3
008 티아라 - yayaya.mp3
009 박효신 - 사랑이 고프다 (I Promise You).mp3
010 브라운 아이드 소울 - 똑같다면.mp3
011 아이유 - 미리 메리 크리스마스 (Feat. 천둥 Of MBLAQ).mp3
012 태연 & 더원 - 별처럼.mp3
013 카라 - 점핑 (Jumping).mp3
014 허각 - 언제나.mp3
015 소녀시대 - 훗 (Hoot).mp3
016 애프터스쿨 - Love Love Love.mp3
017 윤하 - 내 남자친구를 부탁해.mp3
018 비스트 - Beautiful.mp3
019 오렌지 캬라멜 - 아잉♡.mp3
020 2AM - 전활 받지 않는 너에게.mp3
021 박지헌 - 마지막 사랑.mp3
022 아이유 - 이게 아닌데.mp3
023 강민경 & 손동운 - 우동.mp3
024 허각 - 하늘을 달리다.mp3
025 박칼린 & 임정희 - 아름다운 널.mp3
026 서인영 - 리듬속으로.mp3
027 신용재 (포맨) - 이유.mp3
028 브라운 아이드 소울 - 내려놔요.mp3
029 슈프림팀 & 영준 - 그땐 그땐 그땐.mp3
030 지아 - 몇 월 며칠 몇 시 (Feat. 마이티 마우스).mp3
031 싸이 - Right Now.mp3
032 강승윤 - 본능적으로 (Feat. Swings).mp3
033 이기찬 - 러브 (L.O.V.E) (Feat.슈프림팀).mp3
034 거미 & 바비킴 - 러브 레시피.mp3
035 존박 - I`m Your Man.mp3
036 아이유 - 첫 이별 그날 밤.mp3
037 김범수 - 나타나.mp3
038 허각 - 행복한 나를 (Feat. 존박).mp3
039 아이유 - 느리게 하는 일.mp3
040 2AM - 미친 듯이.mp3
041 포맨 - Here I Am.mp3
042 길미 - 바보처럼 왜이래 (Feat. 나윤권).mp3
043 장재인 - 가로수 그늘 아래 서면.mp3
044 아이유 - 혼자 있는 방.mp3
045 성시경 & 박효신 - Christmas Time.mp3
046 JYP Nation - This Christmas.mp3
047 디셈버 - 눈부신 눈물.mp3
048 김진표 - 이별 뒤에 해야 할 몇 가지 (Feat. 레이디 제인).mp3
049 슈퍼주니어 - 입술을_깨물고.mp3
050 나윤권 - 그날 이후로.mp3
051 가비엔제이 - 전화 좀 받어.mp3
052 SG 워너비 - 해바라기.mp3
053 노라조 - 멍멍이.mp3
054 거미 - 죽어도 사랑해.mp3
055 2NE1 - 아파 (Slow).mp3
056 miss A - Breathe.mp3
057 레인보우 - Mach.mp3
058 왁스 - 술이 웬수야.mp3
059 2NE1 - Go Away.mp3
060 김지수 - 널 지우는 일.mp3
061 백지영 - 그남자.mp3
062 2PM - I'll Be Back.mp3
063 영지 - 이 노래 듣지마.mp3
064 럼블피쉬 - OK 끝내 (Feat. 조PD).mp3
065 2NE1 - Can`t Nobody.mp3
066 지아 & 포맨 - 울고, 불고….mp3
067 비스트 - 숨.mp3
068 엠씨더맥스 - 사랑합니다 (Feat. 부활).mp3
069 S.M. The Ballad - 너무 그리워 (Miss You).mp3
070 김연아 & 씨스타 - Super Girl.mp3
071 가인 - 돌이킬 수 없는.mp3
072 조문근 - 너라는 걸.mp3
073 4minute - First.mp3
074 성시경 & 아이유 - 그대네요.mp3
075 샤이니 - 하루 (X-Mas).mp3
076 Ciara - Turn It Up (Feat. Usher).mp3
077 린 - 사랑의 눈보라.mp3
078 존박 - 빗속에서.mp3
079 김보경 - Because Of You.mp3
080 코요테 - 스키장에서 (White Love).mp3
081 언터쳐블 - 난리 브루스 (Feat. Vasco).mp3
082 싸이 - 내 눈에는 (Feat. 이재훈).mp3
083 모세 - I`m Sorry (Feat. 미스에스 태혜영).mp3
084 BMK - 메리 크리스마스 (멀리있는 그대).mp3
085 미(美) - 못해.mp3
086 버벌진트 - 약속해 약속해 (Feat. G.NA).mp3
087 성제(초신성) & 지영(카라) - Merry Love.mp3
088 포맨 - 미안해 (Feat. 美).mp3
089 Black Eyed Peas - The Time (Dirty Bit).mp3
090 정슬기 - 어떻게 한번을 안 마주치니.mp3
091 김현지 - Everything.mp3
092 지연 (티아라) - 점점 (Acoustic Ver.).mp3
093 G.NA & 현아 - Say You Love Me.mp3
094 규리 & 지영 [카라] - My Love (대물 OST Part.7].mp3
095 이정 - 헤어지는 일 (Feat. 리쌍).mp3
096 Bois - 상처만.mp3
097 Kelly Clarkson - Because Of You.mp3
098 브라운 아이드 소울 - With Chocolate.mp3
099 윤상현 - 바라본다.mp3
100 미스에스 - Promise U (Feat. 정슬기).mp3
101 박효신 - 눈물날려 그래.mp3
102 박효신 - Only U.mp3
103 박효신 - 안녕 사랑아.mp3
104 박효신 - 러브바리스타 (Feat. 서인국).mp3
105 박효신 - Beautiful Day (Feat. 스컬).mp3
106 강성 - 가슴이 말해.mp3
107 얀키 - 1225 (Feat. Dok2, MYK, 샛별).mp3
108 양정승 & 래원 - 미애 (美愛).mp3
109 웅산 - If You Love Me.mp3
110 원웨이 - Rainy Days (feat Jun K Of 2PM).mp3
111 이지영 (빅마마) - 여행을 떠나자.mp3
112 이치훈 - 시월의 밤.mp3
113 한지은 & 나로 - 사랑하기 좋은 겨울.mp3
114 Animatiz - Kiss Me If You Can (Feat. 수다쟁이, Huckleberry P, Kuan).mp3
115 Diddy - Dirty Money - Ass On The Floor (Feat. Swizz Beatz).mp3
116 Once A Day - 어떻게 우리 헤어져.mp3
117 Tokio Hotel - Darkside Of The Sun.mp3
118 뉴런 - 하얀 눈이 내리면 (Feat. 원써겐).mp3
119 률 - Symbol (By 낯선, 주아민).mp3
120 모던보이 - Wonderful Day.mp3
121 무쌍 - Love Disorder.mp3
122 송희란 - 이해할 수 없는.mp3
123 영건 & 포스트맨 - 눈물겹다.mp3
124 유니파이밴드 - 다시, 크리스마스 (Feat. 송지영).mp3
125 지수현 - 사랑은 모든 걸 다 이긴 대요.mp3
126 한재욱 - Sweet Sweet (Feat. 이하건).mp3
127 기린 - Please Stay.mp3
128 Mari Persen - Sweetheart.mp3
129 Michael Jackson - Monster.mp3
130 기명신 - 펑펑펑 (Punk Punk Punk).mp3
131 김수빈 - Nothing...mp3
132 리미와 감자 - 오 빠 나 추워.mp3
133 박지헌 - 지킬 수 있게.mp3
134 보니 - 기다릴게.mp3
135 이지엠 - 사랑해 미안해.mp3
136 채연 - 사진 속 엄마 아빠의 크리스마스 (MBC 꽃다발).mp3
137 가이엠 - Say On My Knee.mp3
138 오지은과 늑대들 - 넌 나의 귀여운!.mp3
139 유대성 - 그녀는 울어요.mp3
140 이바디 - 산책 (영화 `참을 수 없는.`삽입곡).mp3
141 팻두 - 쳇바퀴 1화 - 아기오리의 첫 비행.mp3
142 First Aid - Smiley Waltz.mp3
143 MYK - Call When You Land.mp3
144 파스텔 블루 - 흰 눈이 내리는 날엔 (Narr. 데프콘, Feat. 한큐, 수성).mp3
145 소울컴퍼니 - Still A Team (Feat. MC Meta).mp3
146 선데이선셋 - Beautiful (Feat. 한소현 Of 3rd Coast).mp3
147 고은 - 미안하다 하지마.mp3
148 레몬 트리 - She`s.mp3
149 비비드 소울 & 러블리 - Blue Winter.mp3
150 신궁 - 정말 (Sensibility From 이정록 시집 `정말`).mp3
151 Copykumo - 1%의 어떤 것 (Feat.Taibian).mp3
152 레이븐 - Raven.mp3
153 식스 - Man.mp3
154 지애 - 매일 매일 매일 매일.mp3
155 진바이진 - December (Stay).mp3
156 YWHO家 - Christmas Serenade (Song By 4Men, 美, BeBe Mignon).mp3

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Post by Neliets » Dec 20th, '10, 18:20

Oh, Ethlenn! I'm quite surprised that you're here. I didn't think that you were into kpop. Why? I don't know.

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Post by Ethlenn » Dec 20th, '10, 18:30

Because I'm one mysterious lady... ok, maybe not that much of a lady, but still...
Ohohohohooo!!
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Post by Neliets » Dec 20th, '10, 18:54

Ethlenn wrote:Because I'm one mysterious lady... ok, maybe not that much of a lady, but still...
Ohohohohooo!!
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Indeed a mysterious lady. And what are your favorite performers?

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Post by Ethlenn » Dec 20th, '10, 19:05

Loads of them, my dear. And even I was born as a pure rocker girl, when I grew up I decided to listen to (almost) everything that appeals to me.
So my musical taste (not only in Ksection) varies from musical performances on stage, via classical/traditional songs to 2NE1.
Yiruma, Deli Spice, Lee Seungyeol, Lee Seouncheol, Buhwal, DBSK, Hong Kwangho, Tearliner, ZIA... oh, you don't wanna hear the whole list. I'm spamming my blog with those. :mrgreen:

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Post by MisS Lonliah » Dec 20th, '10, 21:00

@The Chaos: hmm maybe it will grow on me while watching the drama..

@Ethlenn: true dear! so I'll try to keep on looking at the bright side.. ah & btw, I don't think that you're a mysterious lady! because they are mostly unkind!! :wub: :mrgreen:

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Post by Ethlenn » Dec 20th, '10, 21:39

The PV for the single for Athena is supposedly out too, hmm...

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Post by esmer86 » Dec 20th, '10, 23:35

Damn Ethleen! You just gave me some homework! Now I have to go to YouTube and do some searching! Im kinda new to Korean music but what I do LOVE is Big Bang and 2NE1. Anything to do with Hip-Hop and rock. I do wonder how the rock world is in Korea?! Any good rockers? 8)

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Post by Ethlenn » Dec 21st, '10, 12:50

Oh, love, they have so many good rock bands or singers.
Buhwal, Deli Spice, Seo Taiji, Rumble Fish, My Aunt Mary, Nell, Yoon Do Hyun, Lee Seung Yul... lots of.
As for hip-hop try Epic High.

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Post by Neliets » Dec 27th, '10, 19:56

esmer86 wrote:Damn Ethleen! You just gave me some homework! Now I have to go to YouTube and do some searching! Im kinda new to Korean music but what I do LOVE is Big Bang and 2NE1. Anything to do with Hip-Hop and rock. I do wonder how the rock world is in Korea?! Any good rockers? 8)
I can add Crash, Crying Nut, Moon Hee Jun(not sure, but I remember that he was quite rock-ish) and Trax, PIA too. If reffer to those who play guitars etc themselves then CN Blue, FT Island too.

As for hip-hop and rap -> Outsider, Supreme Team, T.O.P., G-Dragon(both from big bang), Kongmyeongjeongdae(I just romanized, not sure what it means).


If you like 2NE1, then you can try 4minute, f(x), After School.

For about last 3 days I've been hooked on to one quite old but good song.



Ok, I feel like giving out utube links with some good songs so fasten your seatbelts, ladies(and gentleman of course).
From oldschool kpop :

The link I posted above.

Quite epic but considering that this song is nearly 10 years old... : H.O.T - We are the future |

I totally love this song but on this performance they lip-sync : Shinhwa - Your man |

Shinhwa - Perfect Man |

Shinhwa - Throw My First |
P.s. - there are few more from Shinhwa but not gonna post them all but only name them - Never Can Rewind, Wedding, Brand New.

G.O.D. - Friday Night |

G.O.D. - 바보(translation - fool but mostly it's just known as 바보) |
P.s. - Yes, again there are few more - Crime, Sadness, I need you.

From Oldscholl kpop I think that's it. Now, from more recent past(generally songs I like and consider good).

First kpop song that I desperately loved(and liked, btw I still love it) : 2PM - Again And Again |

First song that I romanized for 한굴 learning purposes(about year ago) : 2PM - I Hate You |
P.s. - of course there are more - 기다리다 지친다(tired of waiting), Without U, Hearbeat, 너에게 미쳤었다.

Big bang was the first korean group I heard and listened to a little bit but I like this song the most : Big Bang - 하루하루 |

Big Bang - Lies |
P.s. - there are more - Tell Me Goodbye, She Can't Get Enough, Baby Baby, Always, La-La-La, Gara gara Go, Love Club, 멍청한 사랑.

I think my first this-kind of song that I loved : December - Learned My Lesson In Love |

I knew him even before 2PM : Outsider - Loner |

Outsider - Like A man |
P.s. - Acquaintance is good too.

As Last.fm says - #1 Track(overall) : DBSK - Wrong Number |
P.s. - As for DBSK, I like Mirotic, Purple Line, The Way U Are, "O".

I'll take a new song for example : 2AM - With Or Without You |
P.s. - I liked Confession To A Friend, Even If I Die, I Can't Let You Go, I Did Wrong, 사랑한단 말 못해.(Not a fan of 미친 듯이 or 전활 받지 않는 너에게)

I'm even a Fanboy now : Rainbow - Mach |

Rainbow - A |
P.s. - I don't know why but I like all of their songs, every one of them but the most I love those 2

Beast - Shock |
P.s. - Mystery, Bad Girl, 슴, Easy

I love these girls as much as Rainbow, but discovered them about the same time as Big Bang(even before 2PM) : Kara - Mister |

Kara - Wanna |

Kara - Lupin |

Kara - Jumping |

Kara - Umbrella |

MBLAQ - Y |
P.s. - Oh Yeah is lovely too!

F.Cuz - Midnight Sun |
P.s. - I liked No One, too.

One of those most-loved songs(like Wrong Number and Again and again) : Rain - Bad Guy |
P.s. - Rainism, 나에게 너는, Love Song, It's Raining, Touch Ya.

Taeyang - Just A Feeling |
P.s. - Wedding Dress, Where U At, I'll Be There.

T-ara - Lies |
P.s. - Crazy Because Of you, Bo Beep Bo Beep, I'm Really Hurt and both new songs.

Supernova and T-ara - Time To Love |

I'm just fascineted by his voice : Chung Lim - Face |

4minute - Hot Issue |
P.s. - I liked I My Me Mine and Superstar too.


Few more which I am too lazy to get youtube links for :
Homme - 밥만 잘 먹더라 ---------------- loved the part in Secret Garden where the guy mentioned it, if anyone has seen it.
SNSD - Gee, Genie, Hoot, Wake Up
Baek Ji Young - My Ear's Candy
PSY - Right Now
Nine Muses - Ladies, No Playboy ---- by the way, No Playboy is still only MV I consider as sexy, many have tried, pretty much all of them - failed. IMHO.
Gain - 돌이킬 수 없는
ZE:A - All Day Long
U-Kiss - 뭐라고, 시끄러!!
Teen Top - Clap ---------------- this should be up there with MV but I'm getting even lazier
Super Junior - Sorry, Sorry, Bonamana ------------------- this is in right place even though I like Sorry Sorry quite a lot.
SS501 - Love Ya -------------------------- not a fan of Love Like This, which was their Hit song.
Sistar - Push Push, 가식걸 ---------------------------hated Push Push at first, but then end up liking it
SHINee - Juliette, Ring Ding Dong, Obsession, Lucifer

In big - that's it. I've probably forgotten something anyways.

AND YES - KARA DESERVED TO GET YOUTUBE LINKS FOR EVERY SONG. They are just sooo lovely.


If you want, then you can check out my Last.fm profile -
http://www.last.fm/user/capans

Good thing that Ethlenn already knows that I like to write long, long, very long posts. But there is nothing much to read, it looks quite big because of the spaces.


P.s. - ****, I think that I wrote way too much.[/b]

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Post by esmer86 » Dec 27th, '10, 23:52

Thanks for the LONG list Neliets :goggle: :D I guess there is no drama watching for me today but some soul searching.


EDIT: LOVING OUTSIDER!!!

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Post by Neliets » Dec 28th, '10, 08:35

You should just watch Music Bank, MCountdown, Music Core and Inkigayo every week, then you sure will find quite a lot new songs to love. Do you know what are these shows? And I can give you a link where to get them.

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Post by arakira » Dec 29th, '10, 20:40

About Korean rock/indie, apart from the ones Ethlenn mentioned I like Vidulgi OoyoO, Guckkasten, Huckleberry Finn, Vodka Rain, Broccoli, you too?, MoT, Sokot Band.

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Post by esmer86 » Dec 29th, '10, 23:33

@arakira- i did just a quick search on YT of the bands you listed and I loved all of them. I'll look into it more this weekend but I also found 뷰렛(Biuret) and Vanilla Unity which were really good as well.

@ Neliets- I've seen only a couple of episodes of MCountdown. I know there is more but I just havent had the time to download them and watch it. I some times use am-addiction but the more links the better. thanks! I still gotta look into the list you posted! Im gonna be busy this weekend :P

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Post by Neliets » Jan 2nd, '11, 17:53

esmer86 wrote:@arakira- i did just a quick search on YT of the bands you listed and I loved all of them. I'll look into it more this weekend but I also found 뷰렛(Biuret) and Vanilla Unity which were really good as well.

@ Neliets- I've seen only a couple of episodes of MCountdown. I know there is more but I just havent had the time to download them and watch it. I some times use am-addiction but the more links the better. thanks! I still gotta look into the list you posted! Im gonna be busy this weekend :P
I don't know if this is spam or something but I'll just give you links :
http://www.kpopella.com/ <- pretty much everything, but everything is done through Megaupload.
http://pikeyenny.wordpress.com/ <- Only English subbed stuff is published here. Youtube links, Mediafire links and Megaupload. There are quite a lot there and quite fast.
http://weeklykpop.wordpress.com/ <- Unsubbed stuff, quite a lot, I'd say that everything. Visit this if you are interested in watching everything online, not download.
http://kpopflash.net/ <- they stream M Countdown, Music Core, Music Bank and Inkigayo every week, but check out the time difference, because it's Live.


As for music download links - http://www.ihoneyjoo.com/ <- they have a lot but not everything.



Anyhow, yesterday while watching 2009 MBC Gayo Daejun, I found a song from Super Junior that is good. Most of their songs are just catchy but this one is indeed good. Check out below.

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Post by Ethlenn » Jan 2nd, '11, 18:59

Good to see Neliets so active here^^ Thanks for those links,
And Huckleberry Finn and Broccoli are great indeed.

You may want to check also Humming Urban Stereo (indie) or Loveholic, and their later project: Loveholics.

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Post by Neliets » Jan 2nd, '11, 20:03

Ethlenn wrote:Good to see Neliets so active here^^ Thanks for those links,
And Huckleberry Finn and Broccoli are great indeed.

You may want to check also Humming Urban Stereo (indie) or Loveholic, and their later project: Loveholics.
I have no other place to talk about music... I could make a blog but no one will read it anyways ;D

This is how my desktop looks like, yesterday I made little changes, felt like singing along(THE RIGHT WAY) -
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Post by Ethlenn » Jan 2nd, '11, 20:11

Oh, maknae, I would read it!! You know how much I love to read and learn^^
Do it!!

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Post by Neliets » Jan 3rd, '11, 09:46

Maybe later... when I will have something to write about except repairing my 26 years old car ;D


By the way - http://www.allkpop.com/2011/01/mblaq-un ... eo-for-cry

The track seems good, I hope they'll get at least few mutizens..

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Post by Neliets » Jan 3rd, '11, 13:17

GUYS, I NEED SOMETHING ACOUSTIC. One Latvian guy is a little bit interested in hearing something from Korea, he asks for some acoustic and something light. I have only CN Blue in mind(FT Island and Trax aren't really light..). Something that he can enjoy while relaxing.

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Post by Ethlenn » Jan 3rd, '11, 13:37

Any artist under Pastel Records will do. :mrgreen:
Casker has some acoustic concert even. Also Tearliner.

PS. pastel Records is a label name, like EMI, ie. It ceased to be, but few years back it published really good, mostly indie music.

There is a cd called Hommage to Moonrise, worth listening to.
It's a 3-CD compilation, and the last CD is cover CD.
You can find it here


CD 1
1. 아스피린 소년 |이진우
2. 농구공 | 재주소년
3. Kiss Kiss | 타루
4. 고백 (featuring 이진우, 조예진 of 루싸이트 토끼) | Epitone Project
5. 동물원 | 짙은
6. 돌이킬 수 없는 | Cloud Cuckoo Land
7. 떠나가지마 | Casker
8. Sunday (Remix) | Sentimental Scenery
9. 오! 나의 공주님 | 루싸이트 토끼
10. 기도 (with 이진우) | Epitone Project
11. 종이비행기 | Slow 6
12. 귤 | Yozoh
13. 당분인간 | 메리 클라이브
14. 봉인 | Fanny Fink

CD 2
1. 기도 (Prayer - Original Mix) Homage to 윤상 | W (Where the Story Ends)
2. 복고풍 로맨스 | Sweetpea
3. 마르세유 | 재주소년
4. Missing You | Deli Spice
5. 아스피린 소년 | 전자양
6. Clare | Especially When
7. 납 메아리 | Sweetpea
8. 락앤롤 스타 | My Aunt Mary
9. 귤 | 재주소년
10. 다시 비가 내리네 | Thomas Cook
11. 미니카 | 전자양
12. Picky Girl | 연진 of Linus' Blanket
13. 뱀파이어는 이렇게 말했다 | Sweetpea
14. 우리는 하늘을 날았다 | 이한철
15. 잠시 스쳐갈 뿐 | 재주소년

CD 3
1. Alice | 재주소년
2. 새로운 아침 | Thomas Cook
3. 떠나가지마 (featuring 타루) | Sweetpea
4. 여름의 끝 | 전자양
5. 등대지기 | 이다오
6. 시아누크빌 | Deli Spice
7. 이분단 셋째줄 | 재주소년
8. 주워가 줄래? | 하키
9. Sleeves | Especially When
10. 나 지금 | My Aunt Mary
11. 그래서 그런지 현실은 낯설었어 | 재주소년
12. 돌이킬 수 없는 | Sweetpea
13. Love | W (Where The Story Ends)
14. 흑백사진 | 전자양
15. 눈 오던 날 | 재주소년

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Post by The Chaos » Jan 3rd, '11, 18:00

OMG !! I just found the new MV of DBSK song - Keep you head down :wub:


I laughed I cried I screamed ..nothing more than I missed them soooooooo much :cry: :cry:

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Post by arakira » Jan 3rd, '11, 18:53

Aww, there I wanted to give DBSK a chance and...content banned in my country...=((

Speaking bout Pastel, there's this Castel Prayon guy who did an album with a band called the Black Skirts. I really love that one!! :wub:

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Post by The Chaos » Jan 3rd, '11, 19:01

Which link you want for DBSK arakira :D
if its the new MV here another link from youtube :

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Post by Ethlenn » Jan 3rd, '11, 19:22

Hmm... SM Ent knows how to produce a powerful songs. Still, something's missing :whistling:

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Post by The Chaos » Jan 3rd, '11, 19:23

Don't let me cry again E-chan :cry: I miss all of them together but Homin gotta work after all >_<

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Post by Ethlenn » Jan 3rd, '11, 19:25

Ok, don't cry, don't!

Better this than pansy JYJ singing... aigoo... on the other note... ah why the life is so hard??

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Post by The Chaos » Jan 3rd, '11, 19:27

SM make life hard for DBSK and the fans too >_>


Btw.. E-chan if you find the MV in avi. format please send it to me :D

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Post by Ethlenn » Jan 3rd, '11, 19:29

How did you know I'm reconverting it and uploading???

It's scary...

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Post by The Chaos » Jan 3rd, '11, 19:31

the fangirl power .. :wub:

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Post by arakira » Jan 3rd, '11, 19:31

Hmm, thank you Chaos dear, it worked =)... but somehow just 2 guys in such a vid...looking kinda lonely, huh?

Sorry, I never got into kpop...I think I'll better stay out of the discussion between fans ;)

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Post by The Chaos » Jan 3rd, '11, 19:40

there Yunho in the vid so I didn't felt its lonely at all ...too bad there great songs/bands in Kpop you should at least check arakira :)

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Post by Ethlenn » Jan 3rd, '11, 19:49

Uff, download link:
DBSK - Keep Your Head Down
I'm just wondering, since the Korean title for it is "Whe" (means: "why"), how come English title is... well, who would notice a song titled "Why", ok, I got it.

Yes, Korean pop has so much to offer, I'm not biased.
OK, maybe I don't distinguish other boy groups that much, and girl groups (apart from 2NE1) are exactly the same for me, but still, it's a nice journey!
And said that me, a person who grew up listening to Queen...

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Post by The Chaos » Jan 3rd, '11, 19:53

Thank you ! Thank you ! Thank you E-chan :wub:

and I agree 2NE1 only girls group have good voices and songs :D

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Post by Ethlenn » Jan 3rd, '11, 20:00

Sure, if the link is not working, let me know.

Now I'm off to look for the stuff you wrote me about, The Chaos-chan^^

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Post by arakira » Jan 3rd, '11, 20:01

The Chaos, Ecchan and the other girls did try to show me the kpop goodies but I kinda resistant ;)
and somehow glad I only need to stalk a bunch of actors and not worry about musicians on top of that =)

But, keep this thread going, I'll drop by and check out some new vids from time to time :wub:

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Post by The Chaos » Jan 3rd, '11, 20:02

its working fine and I finished downloading :D

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Post by Ethlenn » Jan 3rd, '11, 20:15

And the download for a song only

I guess we will keep this going, without much kyaa, like usually on DA^^

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Post by The Chaos » Jan 3rd, '11, 20:20

my life savior E-chan :wub:
thanks as always ^__^

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Post by Neliets » Jan 3rd, '11, 22:04

The Chaos wrote:Thank you ! Thank you ! Thank you E-chan :wub:

and I agree 2NE1 only girls group have good voices and songs :D
LIES! /fanboy rushes to save the world/
To be honest, there are quite a lot and 2NE1 is not included. Sorry. Voices my be considerably good but... songs? No way! Most of them are just bizzare and catchy. And those two don't make a song good.

As for girl groups - mostly they are meant for looks and after that we can talk about voice. And voice is something that you can train, if you're hard-working then that is no problem for you.(yes, I have the experience to say that)
I have to admit - Park Bom's voice is quite good but sometimes it just gets annoying. If they would dress better... Park Bom is always in very, very short dress, others - just random clothes they could find(it seems so).

I am not an Anti. I even liked the song Can't no body, at least a part of it, and Go away.

I'm eternal Rainbow and Kara fan, so be careful. You can count T-ara in too, even though their new song kinda fails a bit but Lies and TTL makes up for it.

Out of nowhere I remembered this performance, which I loved.


Aww, those legs... are calling for me...don't you think?
Not really a big fan of SNSD but... I wish I had SNSD just like SME ;D


oh, I'll tell you how it went with that Latvian guy who was interested in Korean stuff. Ok, I gave him a bit, he responded and gave me some Chinese and Japanese songs that he liked. As some of you may already know, I can't stand Chinese language. I just feel like punching myself in face and stuff like that. Ok, I tried to listen to his songs and you know - I thought that I listen to bizarre stuff but... he listens to a bit more bizarre. Slow Chinese songs(and slow Japanese) and few quite traditional(like Trot for us). But in every song he gave me a girl was singing. So I replied back and gave him some of our girl stuff. I didn't advertise my dear Rainbow or T-ara(I gave him Kara's song) but gave him Loveholic, Davichi, Baek Ji Young, SNSD - Gee to laugh at and few more I can't recall.

Ok, I worked out quite a lot today, I'm a bit tired and gonna end this with this song, because I have to get up early tomorrow so I can get a ride to gym for a work out.


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Post by Ethlenn » Jan 3rd, '11, 22:37

Well, everyone has one's own opinion. I can't stand SNSD, After School and so on.
And catchy and bizarre make if not a good song than memorable one. And this is all those groups need.

And I can't agree on the fact that you can train your voice. You can train it under one condition - you can already repeat the sounds, that is - you have basic singing skills. If you have wooden ear, no one, even Freddie Mercury wouldn't be able to turn one into a singer. If you can't sing, that's the end, you just can't. Because singing is not also making sounds, but also hearing sounds. For me, most of girl groups can't sing. And singing clearly on the studio albums and hitting the right notes on the concert is not a big achievement. Every under big companies can do that. They are trained.

There has to be more into it. This is why most of those girl bands fail in ballad songs or I'm not brave enough to find any acapella songs (they have any?). Because when you sing without heavy musical beat in the background - you have to create the music with your own voice. And that's a gift. That's a talent.

For girls it's BOA who can sing, in my opinion.

But as always, we agree, we disagree. Normal stuff.

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Post by Peggy » Jan 3rd, '11, 23:01

Think I'll have a word re groups. I do not like Korean girl groups. Mostly don't sing well and mostly wear atrocious or skimpy costumes. I watch them sometimes just because they are there on a show but do they know that they are looking like strippers?? All they need at times is a pole. Not being catty or prim, but it is not attractive to see young girls behaving like low class Las Vegas backoom dancers.Movements are a bit vulgar at times.Just my opinion.

Now the boy groups are more interesting. Many have good voices and they all obviously have to practise their dance/gymnastic moves. I love 2AM because they can really sing. They all have good natural voices but at the same time they blend together so well.
I love SHINee. How do they move so well..practice of course, and the songs are catchy and have a good bounce.They don't overdo the rap either.
I like 2PM. I am always looking for Nichkun but he keeps in the background and also keeps changing his hair colour. Very distracting. They also have a good rhythm and are so athletic. Don't know if it can all be called dancing but it looks good.
I do like Clazzique and Alex. also Alex alone is dreamy time. Love his album 'My Vintage Romance' Sigh ..He writes the best lyrics.
I really like Ahn Jae Wook. He has lots of albums. Don't know why he stopped singing lately.
I could go on...

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Post by Peggy » Jan 3rd, '11, 23:12

I don't really think you can build a singer if they can't hear that they have no ear for the notes. I mean... yes if someone can hear the music and know when they are in tune, then their voice can be trained so they can sing with a group or choir and possibly alone.

Some people have perfect pitch and they always sing the exact 'middle' of the note being played. Ask them for a middle 'C' and they can give it to you right away. That is a born with talent. Others ...mostly the 'crooner' type, can aim for the note and approach it from below or from above and land in tune but they have to really practice to sing in tune.
I think that only people like classical or opera singers have the voice already and they can be trained how to produce their best voice.

I used to sing in a group and harmonising was fun as long as you could hear the melody in your own head to start with. Now of course, I can't even croak like a frog. If you don't use your vocal chords they get slack and that is the end of singing.

I still think many of the Korean girl groups don't sing they SHOUT!

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Post by Ethlenn » Jan 3rd, '11, 23:26

Peggy, just before I go to sleep, I have to agree with everything you wrote!

That was exactly my point (distorted by a bit of gin today, ekhem), both about the singing (and training of the existent voice) and dancing. I wanted to add, but forgot somehow, one question - have you noticed the angle from which all SNSD's MVs are filmed? I call it: "knee perspective", because directors and everyone in their agency know their strong points the best. And it's not the voice.
We back again to kpop...
And it's not like all kpop stars sing bad, and all indie bands sing good.
It depends on individual talents.

This is why I also like SHINee (from the younger generation), and I still like DBSK, and I think there is no boy group that can be on the same level. Sorry. 2AM, yes, they can sing, true.
Oh, and there is Seven too.

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Post by MisS Lonliah » Jan 3rd, '11, 23:35

“Keep Your Head Down” MV was great! but it's still sad that aahhhhhh whatever......

GD&TOP's KNOCK OUT was better than their previous MV, but still complete waste of talents...waste of time.....such stuff can't live long..

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Post by Ethlenn » Jan 3rd, '11, 23:40

Oh this TOP/GD song and MV is sooo bad I didn't even want to mention it... The previous GD song was complete crap too...

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Post by MisS Lonliah » Jan 3rd, '11, 23:46

I mentioned it to tell everyone that I really HATED their album, even though I've been waiting for it... :pale:

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Post by Peggy » Jan 4th, '11, 00:51

It's tough to dislike any performer really because you know that the Korean groups really work hard for a long time before they make a debut. I read recently that Jo Kwon, the lead singer of 2AM, has been working for over eight years and last year was the bigbreak time, so it's good that all that hard work has ended up with good things for him and the group. I think he is 22 years old. they do dedicate themselves to get to their goal.

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Post by Jav_sol » Jan 4th, '11, 03:24

My opinion is that the Korean pop music industry is in the business of produces catchy jingles rather than 'epic' songs. Like the music you hear in commercials, it gets stuck in your head but forgettable. Sometimes it feels like people try to over analyze these songs.
There seems to be a double standard in this thread: girl groups = bad, boy groups = good. :scratch: Frankly, I think both are in the same boats. However, it isn't surprising because women are usually the harshest critics of anything girl groups wear. :roll
Peggy wrote:Now the boy groups are more interesting.
Because you're part of their target audience.
Neliets wrote:I can't stand Chinese language.
Ok, but why post this on multiple threads? It seems rather random.

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Post by Ethlenn » Jan 4th, '11, 10:08

No, I don't care what girl groups wear, seriously, because my player is only mp3 player, I don't watch videos on it. But I do notice that. I may like it or not, but not comment until they look too promiscuous as for me. I'm not a teenager to comment on skirts and leggins.
And you missed something, we said that bad and good bands are on both sides, not just on one of them. Seriously, I can't stand both groups, I have at most 2 I can listen their one or two songs and 1 that I'm a fan of. Bias? I don't think so.
I'm open for anything that catches my attention. Kpop, rock, indie alike.
Without punk, ok.
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Post by Neliets » Jan 4th, '11, 16:28

Too much to quote...

To start with - musical hearing(I don't know how it's called in English, I just translate from Latvian) is not a talent, most people have it, many even don't know it. I'd say that everyone who even thinks about going to an audition, has it. And it is certain that everyone who gets a contract have it. And there is absolute hearing too(also translated from Latvian), that's a talent. It's like that - you ask a person with that kind of talent to give you a note "la", for example, and he can easily sing the note for you.
Generally everyone who can get to trainie status, can train their voice. That's a fact - get over it. As Peggy already mentioned, if you stop, then it gets pretty bad and you need to start to train again, pretty much, but it's not the end.

Acapella songs are little bit harder but not as hard as you may think. I've sang a lot of them, nothing you can't get used to. Ok, solo acapella song may be quite difficult but without anyone to sing with, no one will notice that you don't get on a right note sometimes.

And it's not that those girls can't sing, it's just that they don't get songs where they could show-off.

I don't like SNSD too. I just admire something that they are good of - looking good, not the music. But Rainbow can sing(most of them), they may not be too popular on TV but they are on radio, where they sing and quite a lot, I've heard many cover versions and stuff from then(mostly the vocalist HyunYoung) and they know their business.

Girl group stage outfits... yep, there I can agree - they try too hard to be naked. I am a guy and I think that their efforts to try to be sexy`er are just... pointless? You can call me gay but I don't find any of it sexy. 0 emotions. I'm more excited to see cute concept than sexy.

I'm not trying to hurt anyone but you can't really go and point fingers and say that they can't sing. You need to be by piano and get the person to sing for you, even then you need to be quite educated to know if they can or can't sing. And it's quite wrong and dumb to make some kind of statement based on TV.

And you mentioned DBSK, Seven(which I would be against but that's not the point now) - you know? They are in this business for quite a while that's why, they sing all the time and they get better and better so you can't really put them beside new groups. As for SHINee - one guy makes up for the whole group - Jonghyun(or something like that). He has quite unique voice.

Someone mentioned Jokwon - he wasn't just a trainee for those 8 years, he was an kid-singer back then too.

Even though I like(or liked) Big Bang, I can only laugh at the fail that TOP and G-dragon made(Include Heartbreaker and TOP's Turn It Up). Taeyang is serious business, though. And the same thing that was with Seven and DBSK. DBSK song isn't meant for my liking.

Why on Earth I'm the only male here?

About singing you can't argue with me - I have the experience to make my statement.

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Post by badcompany » Jan 4th, '11, 17:58

I dunno, for me, the Korean (Pop) Music Industry represents everything that's wrong with the Music Industry today.

Not a popular opinion but nevertheless, only an opinion.

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Post by Ethlenn » Jan 4th, '11, 18:52

Well, Neliets, you have few good points.
And you named the only one reason I like SHINee, it's because of this one guy. :mrgreen:

Discussion about kpop will be long. Discussion about other k-music, I guess not that long.
It's always like that with pop. But I'm glad we have our opinions here.
I guess we all can appreciate something good even if it's not our liking. You know, Plato's idea of beauty. Whether it is our personal idea of beauty is not relevant, keke.

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Post by Neliets » Jan 4th, '11, 19:08

badcompany wrote:I dunno, for me, the Korean (Pop) Music Industry represents everything that's wrong with the Music Industry today.

Not a popular opinion but nevertheless, only an opinion.
I used to think the same(not exactly about Korean but generally Pop music). I used to listen to Post-hardcore, hardcore, deathmetal etc. Now? Kpop!(I don't like word kpop, I would like to call it kmusic) cause I came to conclusion - as long as you like it, don't give a **** about what it is. Listen what you like - that's what music is for, right? ;]

Ethlenn, that's the only thing why I sometimes even listen to SHINee.

And I forgot to point out one more thing - have you noticed that always main vocalist(sometimes someone else too) screams? I don't get it. Ok, they want to show-off but only one who really have showed us something is IU. As you an read it hear - http://www.allkpop.com/2010/12/if-iu-be ... t-december - December too but I don't know why they are not even a bit popular. Even I, a guy who mostly likes R&B stuff, liked the song "Learned my lesson in love", as Last.fm says, it's top 5 overall song for me(DBSK and 2PM is in the lead, sadly).

And damn how much I love Fly To The Sky - Like a man. I listen to it... umm... about all the time?

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Post by Ethlenn » Jan 4th, '11, 19:20

IU has talent and lately is heavily promoted. She's even in "dream High" drama.
Her "Araro" song for QSD was amazing^^

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Post by Jav_sol » Jan 5th, '11, 01:11

Ethlenn wrote:Discussion about kpop will be long. Discussion about other k-music, I guess not that long.
Probably because pop music is more readily available than other genres. There are tons of websites dedicated to Korean pop music.
Honestly, I'm not a huge Kpop fan. I don't buy albums nor download the music. Basically, most of my knowledge comes from artists appearing on tv shows. For example, I know who Daesung is because he was on Family Outing.
So I won't pretend to be an expert, but from what I've heard I think artists like Lynn, Davichi, Younha have good voices.
Also that lady (forgot her name) from the choir episodes of Qualifications of Men was pretty good.

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Post by Peggy » Jan 5th, '11, 01:25

That program called 'Qualifications of Men' was one reason to think that voices could be trained to sing. They gathered a whole large group of artists from the studio variety shows. Many of them could not sing or had never tried. After several months of being weeded out and given rehearsals and instructions by a wonderful director they put on a really good choir and sang at a special festival. The were very afraid and nervous to do this but being artists they worked at it. They sounded pretty good. I give all credit to the lady who made them believe they could sing. The lead soprano was indeed a trained singer to start with.
I can't remember the choir director's name but she is now doing an interview show called 'Heart to Heart' in the daytime. At least shown in the daytime here in California.

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Post by Ethlenn » Jan 5th, '11, 21:28

You may want to read the article here:
http://korean-content.com/2011/01/04/20 ... -overview/

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Post by arakira » Jan 5th, '11, 21:51

Thanks for the article, found some interesting new bands to check out =)

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Post by Jav_sol » Jan 5th, '11, 23:32

Peggy wrote:'I can't remember the choir director's name but she is now doing an interview show called 'Heart to Heart' in the daytime. At least shown in the daytime here in California.
Her name is Kolleen Park. http://tinyurl.com/39r85te
Ethlenn wrote:Well, everyone has one's own opinion. I can't stand SNSD, After School and so on.
Not sure about After School's music, but I think Kahi is a good dancer.

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Post by Ethlenn » Jan 6th, '11, 11:20

Kolleen Park won at SBS Entertainment Awards and was as a guest in the latest Golden Fishery episode, if someone wants it, I may upload it here.

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Post by Neliets » Jan 6th, '11, 17:33

Just watched something called Dalshabet on M!Countdown(debute, I think). And it was awful. Buuuuuuuuuuut pretty much all debut songs are quite bad, except Rain.

By the way - when we were arguing about can or cant sing issue, now while watching M!C, I remembered one more think which you could definitely include by your standars - Gavy Nj. But let's not bring up the past and just let them rest.


And I'm amazed by myself. I've been listening to that Fly To The Sky song even know, the ratio is something like this - I listen to it 3 times, then some other song and then again 3 times and then again one another.

I am the only one who dislike Hip Hop, Rap groups(Untouchable n such) and artists(music, not themselves), except Outsider and Supreme Team?

And at last !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Secret's new song doesn't resemble in any of the previous songs, that's a relief, I thought that it would be something Secret-ish. But still the song isn't anything too good.

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Post by Jav_sol » Jan 6th, '11, 23:50

Neliets wrote:Supreme Team?
Have you seen Simon D Oh! My School? I find him pretty funny on the show. At times it sounds like he isn't using Seoul dialect.
Neliets wrote:And at last !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Secret's new song doesn't resemble in any of the previous songs, that's a relief, I thought that it would be something Secret-ish. But still the song isn't anything too good.
I was reminded of Wonder Girls when I first saw Secret's retro concept. But it sounded like a good comeback stage.

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Post by Neliets » Jan 7th, '11, 06:01

Jav_sol wrote:
Neliets wrote:Supreme Team?
Have you seen Simon D Oh! My School? I find him pretty funny on the show. At times it sounds like he isn't using Seoul dialect.
Neliets wrote:And at last !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Secret's new song doesn't resemble in any of the previous songs, that's a relief, I thought that it would be something Secret-ish. But still the song isn't anything too good.
I was reminded of Wonder Girls when I first saw Secret's retro concept. But it sounded like a good comeback stage.
Of course. I watch Oh! My School from the very first episode. I've seen him on few others too. He's quite amusing.

It's way better than Magic or Madonna, imho, but not really my liking.

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Post by The Chaos » Jan 7th, '11, 10:29

has anyone seen KBS Music bank today ??
Dong Bang Shin Ki made great comeback today I had to see it live :wub:

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Post by Ethlenn » Jan 7th, '11, 13:53

Uhmm.... no, I stopped watching all three weekend shows some time ago. But I guess fans made already some cuts^^
All I watch lately is Yu Hoeil Sketchbook, Kim Jeong-eun Chocolate, 7080 Concert and some others. I was happy when I could watch Yun Dohyeon's Love Letter, now he has his radio show... ehh... when I'm at work. Blast.

And yes, I should mention this, I listen to the radio when I don't listen to my playlist. Even Kim Heechul program. I may like him or not, and may like SuJu or not, but sometimes there are real gems in there. Like Kim Hyeongjeong (no, it's not The Tab... I mean SS501 flower leader).

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Post by Neliets » Jan 7th, '11, 14:29

Ethlenn wrote:Uhmm.... no, I stopped watching all three weekend shows some time ago. But I guess fans made already some cuts^^
All I watch lately is Yu Hoeil Sketchbook, Kim Jeong-eun Chocolate, 7080 Concert and some others. I was happy when I could watch Yun Dohyeon's Love Letter, now he has his radio show... ehh... when I'm at work. Blast.

And yes, I should mention this, I listen to the radio when I don't listen to my playlist. Even Kim Heechul program. I may like him or not, and may like SuJu or not, but sometimes there are real gems in there. Like Kim Hyeongjeong (no, it's not The Tab... I mean SS501 flower leader).
share radio links, I've always wanted to listen to the radio.

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