[Discussion] Shiroi Haru (Abe Hiroshi,Yoshitaka Yuriko..)
[Discussion] Shiroi Haru (Abe Hiroshi,Yoshitaka Yuriko..)
I thought there would be a discussion thread for this drama here, however there wasn't one listed in the index so I thought I will make one. Has anyone seen Ep.1 of this drama yet, and if so, care to share your thoughts on here?:mrgreen:
http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Shiroi_Haru
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* Title: 白い春
* Title (romaji): Shiroi Haru
* Also known as: White Spring
* Format: Renzoku
* Genre: Family, drama
* Broadcast network: Fuji TV
* Broadcast period: 2009-Apr-14 to 2009-Jun
* Air time: Tuesday 22:00
* Theme song: Yokogao by Sakai Ayumi (阪井あゆみ)
Synopsis:
Former yakuza Haruo is finally released from prison after completing his sentence. With nine years worth of prison gratuities in hand, he stops at a restaurant to enjoy a good meal, but all of his money ends up being stolen. With nothing left, he spends the night at a net cafe, and he manages to look up his old friend from his yakuza days. When Haruo visits the next day, he learns that his old girlfriend Mariko was living with another man, but later died of illness. Haruo, who had committed murder 9 years earlier to earn the money for Mariko's medical treatment, is shocked and angered. He decides to track down that other man, who runs a bakery with his wife and daughter Sachi. Haruo later runs into Sachi at the park, but he has yet to find out the truth about her. --Tokyograph
Cast:
* Abe Hiroshi as Sakura Haruo
* Ohashi Nozomi as Murakami Sachi
* Yoshitaka Yuriko as Nishida Shiori
* Endo Yuya as Kojima Yuki
* Konno Mahiru as Takamura Mariko
* David Ito as Yasuoka Tatsuya
* Shiraishi Miho as Takamura Kanoko
* Endo Kenichi as Murakami Koji
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http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Shiroi_Haru
Official Site
* Title: 白い春
* Title (romaji): Shiroi Haru
* Also known as: White Spring
* Format: Renzoku
* Genre: Family, drama
* Broadcast network: Fuji TV
* Broadcast period: 2009-Apr-14 to 2009-Jun
* Air time: Tuesday 22:00
* Theme song: Yokogao by Sakai Ayumi (阪井あゆみ)
Synopsis:
Former yakuza Haruo is finally released from prison after completing his sentence. With nine years worth of prison gratuities in hand, he stops at a restaurant to enjoy a good meal, but all of his money ends up being stolen. With nothing left, he spends the night at a net cafe, and he manages to look up his old friend from his yakuza days. When Haruo visits the next day, he learns that his old girlfriend Mariko was living with another man, but later died of illness. Haruo, who had committed murder 9 years earlier to earn the money for Mariko's medical treatment, is shocked and angered. He decides to track down that other man, who runs a bakery with his wife and daughter Sachi. Haruo later runs into Sachi at the park, but he has yet to find out the truth about her. --Tokyograph
Cast:
* Abe Hiroshi as Sakura Haruo
* Ohashi Nozomi as Murakami Sachi
* Yoshitaka Yuriko as Nishida Shiori
* Endo Yuya as Kojima Yuki
* Konno Mahiru as Takamura Mariko
* David Ito as Yasuoka Tatsuya
* Shiraishi Miho as Takamura Kanoko
* Endo Kenichi as Murakami Koji
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Not far-fetched at all. Actually, on the top page of the official website, it has a short plot summary that describes Haruo as a man who encounters his daughter without knowing it. So it's actually a plot detail that's been revealed, even if not within the story yet. But I hadn't read that plot summary when I watched the first episode, and I got the same impression--I'm pretty sure that's the impression you're supposed to get. I don't think they'll keep it a secret too far into the drama.
Anyway, I liked the first episode. It seems pretty serious, but also seems to have its humorous moments. BOSS was good too, so this is looking like it will be a fairly good season.
Anyway, I liked the first episode. It seems pretty serious, but also seems to have its humorous moments. BOSS was good too, so this is looking like it will be a fairly good season.
i know its too early, but based on what i've seen from the first episode, this series is shaping up to be the one of the best this year. the interactions are so interesting and fun to watch. i especially loved the restaurant scene between haruo and the old man and every little minor thing that he did in the street (stealing the bananas and tangerines). although this drama won't be as funny as Kekkon Dekinai Otoko, i think the drama of this series will be just as engaging to watch.
anyhow, does anyone know the title of the ending song?
anyhow, does anyone know the title of the ending song?
Yokogao by Sakai Ayumibshater wrote:i know its too early, but based on what i've seen from the first episode, this series is shaping up to be the one of the best this year. the interactions are so interesting and fun to watch. i especially loved the restaurant scene between haruo and the old man and every little minor thing that he did in the street (stealing the bananas and tangerines). although this drama won't be as funny as Kekkon Dekinai Otoko, i think the drama of this series will be just as engaging to watch.
anyhow, does anyone know the title of the ending song?
You're absolutely right. The first episode was really a great intro to the drama. Abe Hiroshi is almost perfect for this role because of his emotionless face , something which I really like about him compared to a lot of other Japanese male actors who often show too exerrated emotions/faces IMO.bshater wrote:i know its too early, but based on what i've seen from the first episode, this series is shaping up to be the one of the best this year. the interactions are so interesting and fun to watch. i especially loved the restaurant scene between haruo and the old man and every little minor thing that he did in the street (stealing the bananas and tangerines). although this drama won't be as funny as Kekkon Dekinai Otoko, i think the drama of this series will be just as engaging to watch.
anyhow, does anyone know the title of the ending song?
And about the interactions, I totally agree with you. It's really well done and it has a bunch of interesting characters that you want to know better and see more of.
Although this seems a rather serious drama, it's great they've given it a little comedic touch. Because well, that's what I like so much about how Abe portrays his characters. Always a little clumsy and slow, with just a few words (like in Kekkon Dekinai Otoko, At Home Dad etc.). What you said about him stealing banana's, that's just what I thought when I saw it. Picking up a giant banana bunch and going for the small bunch afterall, just that little detail puts a smile on my face. You'll understand if you've seen Abe's drama's.
All in all, I really liked this first episode and it's been a while since I enjoyed a drama like this one. But maybe because I'm a real fan of Abe Hiroshi! Have been waiting for a new drama with him as lead for AGES! Hope the next episode will be great too!
Edit: It's sad to see that great drama's like these get little attention here on DA. I guess the majority of DA is female, that's why topics of drama's like "Mei-chan no Shitsuji" get so much posts. It's pretty annoying IMO, because most of those fangirls like those drama's for the 'super handsome guys'..... and guys like me just don't watch those... can't stand them I just think other drama's need to get a little more attention...
I do believe this drama didn't get much discussion not because of the fan based issue but because majority of people here do not understand Japanese and we're all rely on the sub. Love Shuffle was one of the best series came out last season and there was not much discussion in that forum when it aired as well. It's much more fun to have weekly discussion when you understand it or someone put up a summary but if either of those things happen, it hard to have a discussion.
i totally agree. i have been meaning to watch this drama but just dled the subbed ep1 now. and as the pace between subbed and aired eps gets more and more, it even gets harder. i hope that i did not sound too demanding for subs ASAP and i am so grateful for the subbing team for picking up this project and i wish them all the best. all i am saying that it make a difference when it's been discussed. the same thing happening with other dramas that i am currently watching/waiting.lunas wrote:I do believe this drama didn't get much discussion not because of the fan based issue but because majority of people here do not understand Japanese and we're all rely on the sub. Love Shuffle was one of the best series came out last season and there was not much discussion in that forum when it aired as well. It's much more fun to have weekly discussion when you understand it or someone put up a summary but if either of those things happen, it hard to have a discussion.
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i just finished watching ep1 and i must say that i am really loving it. this drama would be a one of my highlights of each week to wait and enjoy.
i have never seen a drama with abe hiroshi before apart from taiga dramas so it is quiet strange do see him in normal clothing
so it is a known fact even before that drama starts that sachi is harou is daughter. so i guess the truth will be out in no time. because they really can't keep story as like we need to keep guessing about this fact.
and the girl who acts as sachi is very sweet and cute. can't wait for next ep.
i have to say this, Abe Hiroshi's voice never fails to amaze me. so strong and manly and so powerful. just love to hear him speak.
i have never seen a drama with abe hiroshi before apart from taiga dramas so it is quiet strange do see him in normal clothing
so it is a known fact even before that drama starts that sachi is harou is daughter. so i guess the truth will be out in no time. because they really can't keep story as like we need to keep guessing about this fact.
and the girl who acts as sachi is very sweet and cute. can't wait for next ep.
i have to say this, Abe Hiroshi's voice never fails to amaze me. so strong and manly and so powerful. just love to hear him speak.
That made me laugh, Issy I agree with you; we see a different Abe Hiroshi in this one, and yet he maintains that commanding presence he's known for.Issy wrote:i have never seen a drama with abe hiroshi before apart from taiga dramas so it is quiet strange do see him in normal clothing
That girl Yoshitaka Yuriko is alright-- I didn't care for her much in Taiyo to Umi no Kyoshitsu, but I really liked her in Love Shuffle. I guess she's growing on me, eh?
I have to say that the baked breads and pastries look yummy!!!
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you are not the only one. i too did not recognize her until she smiled and i remembered her then. i totally forgot that she is in this drama too. she had a heavy make up just apposite love shuffle, i think that was the reason.k361 wrote:Shame on me.
I loved Love Shuffle and did not regonize Yoshitaka Yuriko in Shiroi Haru.
So far I'm liking this series. I get the feeling that Abe's character will help the young couple soon because her boyfriend will not be able to pay back that gangster guy. Also wonder if the truth will get revealed that he is the father of that girl which I do think he is. If it does it would "break" the current family apart that she has so maybe he won't tell her afterall and just see her around like he currently is.
I watch a lot of dramas and animes but I also can't stand those kind of dramas, those people must be watching the dramas for the wrong reason. If they're even paying attention to the drama itself, compared to them just drooling over the actors- those dramas probably exist specifically for that crowd. I think that those kind of people really need to get into a relationship, a drama should be watched for the story and for what it is. We don't get much conversation on dramas that are actually good because we're lacking a proper fanbase for it, we need a place where loads of real drama fans can come together- maybe their just aren't that many non-japanese people that take interest in it.yopakfu wrote:Edit: It's sad to see that great drama's like these get little attention here on DA. I guess the majority of DA is female, that's why topics of drama's like "Mei-chan no Shitsuji" get so much posts. It's pretty annoying IMO, because most of those fangirls like those drama's for the 'super handsome guys'..... and guys like me just don't watch those... can't stand them I just think other drama's need to get a little more attention...
I've watched the first 2 episodes so far of shiroi haru and I'm very much enjoying it, abe's doing a great job and he fits his role good. Other characters are interesting too and leave you wanting the story to progress with them, and by the end of the episode and especially the preview for the next episode- it just leaves you wanting to watch more of the drama.
Obviously, I agree that a drama should have good story to it...but can you really put a "right" reason for watching a drama? There might be ppl who watch these shows to learn the language...there might be people who watch these to learn the culture...there might be people who watch them purely for the actors in it...are any of these reasons wrong? I don't think so. If the majority watch for hot actors/actresses, so be it.1923814 wrote:I watch a lot of dramas and animes but I also can't stand those kind of dramas, those people must be watching the dramas for the wrong reason. If they're even paying attention to the drama itself, compared to them just drooling over the actors- those dramas probably exist specifically for that crowd. I think that those kind of people really need to get into a relationship, a drama should be watched for the story and for what it is. We don't get much conversation on dramas that are actually good because we're lacking a proper fanbase for it, we need a place where loads of real drama fans can come together- maybe their just aren't that many non-japanese people that take interest in it.yopakfu wrote:Edit: It's sad to see that great drama's like these get little attention here on DA. I guess the majority of DA is female, that's why topics of drama's like "Mei-chan no Shitsuji" get so much posts. It's pretty annoying IMO, because most of those fangirls like those drama's for the 'super handsome guys'..... and guys like me just don't watch those... can't stand them I just think other drama's need to get a little more attention...
I've watched the first 2 episodes so far of shiroi haru and I'm very much enjoying it, abe's doing a great job and he fits his role good. Other characters are interesting too and leave you wanting the story to progress with them, and by the end of the episode and especially the preview for the next episode- it just leaves you wanting to watch more of the drama.
to be honest, i am one of those people who enjoyed dramas like mei-chan no shitsuji and was writing alot on its thread when it was on air. we have to bear in mind that everyone's taste in drama choice is different. we really can't say if those fans watching those "sort of dramas" for any "wrong" or right reasons. they watched them because they like them. it applys to everyone.I watch a lot of dramas and animes but I also can't stand those kind of dramas, those people must be watching the dramas for the wrong reason. If they're even paying attention to the drama itself, compared to them just drooling over the actors- those dramas probably exist specifically for that crowd. I think that those kind of people really need to get into a relationship, a drama should be watched for the story and for what it is.
it also does not mean that people who watch those sort of dramas, do not watch dramas like shiroi harou. i am one of them. i try to watch whatever i think is decent enough to watch. i stick with it if it gets my attention.
having all grown up cast in one drama does not make it any better or worse than other dramas that have a popular idol. as you said, the drama must be watched for its story. no matter how much the fans go crazy about their idol's drama, if it is rubbish, the truth will be told eventually.
and fansubbers still picking these dramas for subbing. shirou harou is one example.
i think that we should worry less about attention paid to this thread and discuss it more. this way, will attracts others attention and it would be a very lively thread.
sorry about my rant.
back to the drama, i just finished watching ep2 and i must say it was so emotional that brought tears to my eyes. Abe Hiroshi is just so great in his role (as usual).
Oh yeah I too watched the 4th ep:
Really can't wait for 5 now!
Oh and I'm one of those people who "drool" over pretty idols at dramas but I do recognise a good story when I see it. And there are a lot of reasons to watch a drama besides the story. Like dabogy said to learn the language is one of them. I don't think I would be able to understand japanese so well if I didn't watch a ton of dramas both good & bad.
And yes it's a matter of preferences as well...
Oh and I'm one of those people who "drool" over pretty idols at dramas but I do recognise a good story when I see it. And there are a lot of reasons to watch a drama besides the story. Like dabogy said to learn the language is one of them. I don't think I would be able to understand japanese so well if I didn't watch a ton of dramas both good & bad.
And yes it's a matter of preferences as well...
Well they make shows for all kinds of peoples interests, I wanted to mainly point out that many bleh dramas get a lot of attention because of it conversation wise- compared to other good ones that get pushed to the side. Indeed dramas and anime and such can help you learn japanese, you really have to put it together with looking up countless words in a japanese dictionary if you want to learn properly from it- since you can't expect to learn by subtitles properly since it can be translated which ever way.
I normally watch dramas raw since I know and can read a lot of japanese, but I wait for subtitles for some shows that I really like so that I don't not understand a few words that I may not know yet- it's also easier to watch with subtitles of course.
I normally watch dramas raw since I know and can read a lot of japanese, but I wait for subtitles for some shows that I really like so that I don't not understand a few words that I may not know yet- it's also easier to watch with subtitles of course.
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There's nothing wrong w/ watching a drama purely for certain actors/actresses regardless of content, although I do draw the line when a drama is total crap. In defense of the original poster, I think s/he was only complaining about the number of posts for dramas such as Atashinchi no Danshi (just for the sake of argument ), where the majority of them are ogling/commenting on how hot their idols are. One (who is not a fan) may have to wade thru pages of posts in order to get a feel for whether the drama is worth watching; there're threads devoted to the actors/actresses to express your opinion than to do it in the drama thread. Of course commenting on the their performance wrt to the drama is fair game. Just my 2 cents.
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I somehow agree with this. I didn't watch Mei-chan because it wasn't my taste, but it doesn't mean the drama was bad. And it's a fact, not every drama viewers comment on D-Addicts forum! so people should not bother about why this thread has more post than other. That is actually the reason why I don't post anything in this thread, even though I am watching this series& loving it. I hate it when people try to impose their own opinion to everyone. At least in AtaDan thread, nobody is complaining anything about any other dramas. Once you're a fan, u don't care about such little things w others. Everyone has their own reference, if you don't like a drama, don't go call things about those who're following it, like 'I can't believe there're people watching such craps instead of this amazing series!' O__o wth is that. Those dramas can be totally different, if there's nothing in common to be based on to compare, don't go ask which one deserves moreto be honest, i am one of those people who enjoyed dramas like mei-chan no shitsuji and was writing alot on its thread when it was on air. we have to bear in mind that everyone's taste in drama choice is different. we really can't say if those fans watching those "sort of dramas" for any "wrong" or right reasons. they watched them because they like them. it applys to everyone.
it also does not mean that people who watch those sort of dramas, do not watch dramas like shiroi harou. i am one of them. i try to watch whatever i think is decent enough to watch. i stick with it if it gets my attention.
having all grown up cast in one drama does not make it any better or worse than other dramas that have a popular idol. as you said, the drama must be watched for its story. no matter how much the fans go crazy about their idol's drama, if it is rubbish, the truth will be told eventually.
and fansubbers still picking these dramas for subbing. shirou harou is one example.
i think that we should worry less about attention paid to this thread and discuss it more. this way, will attracts others attention and it would be a very lively thread.
Okay, I'm speaking in general here, not directing to anyone in any sort, so don't bash me please. Just my opinions, feel free to skip. ^_^
How in the world did this forum turned into why people watched Mei-chan? I personally enjoyed Mei-chan for pure entertainment and I look forward for a SP or a 2nd season. I do believe that not every series is for everyone and we all should just leave it at that.
To continue on with the discussion for Shiroi Haru, Abe Hiroshi's character in this is so much darker than other series he was in and frankly in some of the scenes he kind of scare me a little bit. Yoshitaka Yuriko's character is much more livelier in here than the 2 series I watched with her in it. So far I like the the pace of the storyline.
To continue on with the discussion for Shiroi Haru, Abe Hiroshi's character in this is so much darker than other series he was in and frankly in some of the scenes he kind of scare me a little bit. Yoshitaka Yuriko's character is much more livelier in here than the 2 series I watched with her in it. So far I like the the pace of the storyline.
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The fact is that those dramas are aimed at the fangirls. Where they cast actors for ratings and just cook up a story as a vehicle for the idols. It just depends on whether one watches jdoramas purely for eyecandy or for eyecandy + good story + acting.1923814 wrote:I watch a lot of dramas and animes but I also can't stand those kind of dramas, those people must be watching the dramas for the wrong reason.
Just watched ep 4 and its pretty good. Plotwise it seems to be slowing down but I can't wait for ep 5. You don't need subs to understand most of the story anyway. Would have liked Shiroi Haru to achieve KDO 20% ratings though. It deserves to be watched.
but how long an eyecandy can keep a horrible show alive? no matter how much that particular idol has a die hard fans, if the drama is bad, it will fail eventually.Akiramike wrote:The fact is that those dramas are aimed at the fangirls. Where they cast actors for ratings and just cook up a story as a vehicle for the idols. It just depends on whether one watches jdoramas purely for eyecandy or for eyecandy + good story + acting.1923814 wrote:I watch a lot of dramas and animes but I also can't stand those kind of dramas, those people must be watching the dramas for the wrong reason.
Just watched ep 4 and its pretty good. Plotwise it seems to be slowing down but I can't wait for ep 5. You don't need subs to understand most of the story anyway. Would have liked Shiroi Haru to achieve KDO 20% ratings though. It deserves to be watched.
i guess, you can tell how bad or good a show is when you read various people (fan or no fan of that particular idol ) commenting about it. reading all good reviews about an show from idol's fan does not help much specially if you get attacked everytime you have a different view from that community. it will keep genuine drama watchers away from that thread because their views might get attacked.
aaaaaaand Be Hiroshi is an eyecandy himself. watching shiroi harou made me go back and start watching his older dramas. i am really loving him at the moment.
i am dling all the raw eps right now. have to watch them all, can't wait.
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Jdoramas are about ratings and many horrible shows have good ratings because of casting. I think a good review is about why a show is good/bad and not just saying an actor is so kakoii. I haven't tried dissing any shows in d-addicts yet but some threads really do scare me.Issy wrote:but how long an eyecandy can keep a horrible show alive? no matter how much that particular idol has a die hard fans, if the drama is bad, it will fail eventually.
i guess, you can tell how bad or good a show is when you read various people (fan or no fan of that particular idol ) commenting about it. reading all good reviews about an show from idol's fan does not help much specially if you get attacked everytime you have a different view from that community. it will keep genuine drama watchers away from that thread because their views might get attacked.
It just reminds me of the wife of a friend of mine who said The Peacemaker was a good movie just because she liked Clooney and Kidman. Shiroi haru deserves a 20% rating.
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if you guys are interested, theres softsubs here until ep5 by SMP-subs ^^
http://smp-subs.blogspot.com/
http://smp-subs.blogspot.com/
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I wonder how they will introduce 8 million problem.
I afraid about a sad ending. Haru seems to be gradually becoming a father. I hope they do not push this to "Father protect their child with their life" and sacrifice haru at he end. Although I do not hope so, I am expecting a disease case in later episodes! It will be very sad if child got same desease with mother issue happens!
I afraid about a sad ending. Haru seems to be gradually becoming a father. I hope they do not push this to "Father protect their child with their life" and sacrifice haru at he end. Although I do not hope so, I am expecting a disease case in later episodes! It will be very sad if child got same desease with mother issue happens!
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I find the pacing fine, except for the overuse of repetitive flashbacks. Afterall this is not a drama that's heavy on plot and suspense (in fact everything that will happen in the next episode is pretty much revealed in the preview); it's more of a character study on human interactions thru mundane daily chores.Issy wrote:watched eps 3, 4, 5, 6 last night in one go.
i am loving this drama more and mre and being a crybaby, i could not help not to get teary eyes in each ep.
here is my thoughts about this drama so far.
saying all the above, i am really looking forward for next ep.
In any given day, each person comes into contact with at least several, if not dozens of people. Have you ever experience a certain attraction to a person (in a platonic way) w/o knowing why? In a sense this is one way of looking at the ties that bind all people, as presented through the father, his daughter, and the other characters.
To me the father/daughter bonding as depicted is neither believable nor unbelievable (scientifically speaking), although IMO you'll probably enjoy the drama a lot more if you can just buy into the premise. As far as the ending goes, I'm fearing for the worst as it seems to be the most realistic and logical conclusion to the current situation (unless they want to turn it into a cinderella story).
I was thinking about its ending last night and i thought "i really would hate an ending like he will do an ultimate sacrifice and not tell her about his true identity." for some reasons, i can see this coming. i really hope that i am wrong.
as for watching and " just buy into the premise" , i guess, sometimes you can do that and sometimes you just can't. but i am enjoying this drama to its fullest anyway.
as for watching and " just buy into the premise" , i guess, sometimes you can do that and sometimes you just can't. but i am enjoying this drama to its fullest anyway.
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It's funny how you complain TimeLes Subs is slow but ask people to wait for subs and be patient in your signature...nihon-tsubasa wrote:Why are timeless subs so slow and why they don't let SPM do this drama?
there subs are very good
anyway watched ep6 and it's very good
We are too spoiled. We get what we want but still we find something to complain... I do it too but for different things.
Anyway, the highlight of episode 6 for me was
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I agree. Now that the writer has taken his sweet time to get us emotionally attached to the characters, the plot may actually start moving at a faster pace. I thought to myself after ep. 6 that it would be nice if the story ends right there, as the situation can't get any better and can only go downhill. The 800M yen mystery will probably resurface at some point and Haruo's Yakuza connecton will come back to haunt him. I hope I'm wrong, but things don't look good from the preview for ep. 8.Issy wrote:I thought ep7 was one of the best and storongest ep so far. it seems that i can't hold my tears whenever i am watching shiroi haru. every ep has to make me
I was pretty disappointed by this season's dramas. Nothing really "stuck" for me, so I tried Hiroshi Abe, cuz he sometimes surprises me (like with Kekkon Dekinai Otoko). I watched one episode of this series, and I couldn't stop watching it!
The truth about Sachi's identity really wasn't a mystery to me. In fact, the writer seemed to set it up where the audience was kind of in an "omnipotent" viewpoint where we knew the spoiler, but the character(s) didn't.
This is definitely one of the best tearjerkers I've seen in a good while. Hiroshi Abe should get best actor this season. It isn't even close.
The truth about Sachi's identity really wasn't a mystery to me. In fact, the writer seemed to set it up where the audience was kind of in an "omnipotent" viewpoint where we knew the spoiler, but the character(s) didn't.
This is definitely one of the best tearjerkers I've seen in a good while. Hiroshi Abe should get best actor this season. It isn't even close.
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