Bittorent Client Recommendations

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What Bittorrent client do you use?

ABC
77
9%
Azureus
188
23%
BitTornado / TheSHAD0W's experimental BT client
81
10%
BitComet
248
30%
Nova Torrent
1
0%
official BT client (by Bram Cohen)
49
6%
TorrentStorm
12
1%
Shareaza
15
2%
eXeem
2
0%
µTorrent
156
19%
 
Total votes: 829

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Post by seneschal » May 4th, '05, 01:34

That's a very interesting analysis, veritati.

I just saw this on Slyck, I guess the new Azureus has gone to DHT. This is supposed to help out so all the BT clients don't repeated hammer d-addicts.com. I wonder if it will really work though?

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Azureus, a leading java based BitTorrent client, has introduced DHT (Distributed Hash Table) to its client. DHT is a networking protocol that enhances the scalability and efficiency of decentralized networks by creating a virtual index rather than broadcasting search queries. Decentralized networks that utilized DHT technology are able to search and locate files significantly faster than networks that do not use this technology.

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Post by seneschal » May 4th, '05, 06:07

I found this on the web, I don't think the registry key does much good according to it:


http://www.lvllord.de/?lang=en&url=downloads
I read something, that it's possible to change limit via registry (TcpNumConnections). Is that true?
Unfortunately not. Because the concurrent connection attemp limit has nothing to with concurrent connections, this registry-key is useless. Unfortunately there is no registry-key, which would allow the user to change the concurrent connection attemps.
veritati wrote:Tried official one - too slow and not much function. I also didn't like how it opens different windows for different downloads among other issues.
2. This is the line that you need to add to the registry to get more than 10 TCP connections (default on XP/SP1): My Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\
TcpNumConnections\0x00fffffe (16777214)

Edit>New>DWORD value>name it "TcpNumConnections" then right click>modify>type in '0x00fffffe (16777214)"

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Post by BT-Slut » May 4th, '05, 08:48

veritati wrote: As for download speed: it has nothing to do with which client you are using. It's how you configure your computer. Don't download any program that says it can open more TCP ports or anything like that. It will only harm your computer. However, there is one thing that you need to add in the registry in order to get max speed. When I was using ABC I never got the green lights. It was always grey or yellow. I thought that was normal since I was getting OK speed. But after discovering the aforementioned tweak, I got max speed. Everything turned green, and I was so amazed and happy. XP set the default number of TCP connections to 10 and it doesn't change even if you set it higher on your client. But the tweak works around it. I don't know much about programming so don't ask me to explain. I read it from somewhere and applied it, and it works.
You're just full of mis-information and contradictions, aren't you?

First, you make a delcaration that makes it sound like you're an expert programmer, then you disclose that you don't know much about programming and we shouldn't rely on you for explanations.

You are spewing out total mis-information. First, there's no registry hack or setting change to achieve what you claim. You need to actually hack TCPIP.SYS to allow it to open up more than the 10 half-open connections limit that SP2 placed. This ONLY applies to XP users who have updated to SP2. If you're using SP1 or lower, this does NOT apply to you.

Next, in ABC, going from yellow to green is NOT achieved by this registry hack you claim or even updating the TCPIP.SYS file. It has everything to do with configuring correct port-forwarding in your router or opening the correct ports in your software firewall. Allowing more half-open connections would never in itself change yellow to green. That's not how it works.

Lastly, while BT is a protocal and in theory it should achieve the same speed no matter which program you use, actual implememtion of the BT protocal does vary and actual real world performance does indeed change depending on which program you use.

I've used ABC, Azureus, and BitComet. BitComet has many problems but I choose to use it as my main BT program because it's written in C++ and that matters greatly. I still use ABC to super-seed as BitComet does not offer super-seed mode.

veritati, while it was nice of you to take the time to offer your opinions, I cringe at the utter mis-information you spewed--and with such utter authority as if what you posted was actually factual and correct.




Interesting stuff they're doing at Azureus. Take a look at the latest features they've added to Azureus 2.3.0.0:
http://azureus.sourceforge.net/whatsnew2300.php

1. What's new in Azureus 2.3.0.0

1.1 Distributed Database
Azureus now has a distributed, decentralised database that can be used to track decentralised torrents. This permits both "trackerless" torrents and the maintenance of swarms where the tracker has become unavailable or where the torrent was removed from the tracker. It uses the UDP protocol, if you have a firewall/router, you will need to open/forward the UDP port in the same way you did with TCP to download data.

1.1.1 Magnet Links
For torrents that are tracked decentrally, Azureus can export a "Magnet Link". This is of the form "magnet:?xt=urn:btih:..." and can be used to download the torrent from the distributed database via the "open->url" menu item.

1.2 Enhanced Protocol
Azureus now supports an enhanced inter-client messaging protocol, which is aimed at allowing plugins to use the connections created by Azureus to add functionality to the program. Other clients developers can see the specifications for this protocol at http://azureus.aelitis.com/wiki/index.p ... ngProtocol . Plugin developers can check the plugin javadocs to see how to use it. For example, the JPC and Chat plugins make use of this messaging extension.

1.3 JPC
Joltid Peer Cache (JPC) is now integrated into Azureus. For users whose ISP support this, JPC should allow faster downloads, while helping the ISP reduce its bandwidth costs. The JPC Plugin is safe in the way that your ISP won't know what you are downloading, and can't use it to spy on you. The JPC plugin can be disabled through Tools > Options > Plugins > JPC.

1.4 Featured Plugins
The Distributed Database and the Enhanced Protocol allowed us to develop some new plugins. We won't auto install them for you, but we recommend all users who might be interested in them to install them using the Plugins > Installation Wizard menu.

1.4.1 Chat
This plugin will create a discussion channel for each torrent you are downloading. Each channel is independent, and you are free to discuss whatever you want inside the channel. This plugin makes use of the Enhanced Protocol. Developers of other clients willing to implement the chat functionality in their client are welcome to take a look at the very simple protocol used and described here : http://azureus.aelitis.com/wiki/index.php/ChatPlugin . You can also create/join an arbitrary channel by typing in its name inside the plugin. This will have the effect of creating a "virtual" torrent, with no seeds, in order to allow users to create connections to chat. The "virtual" torrents make use of the Distributed Database as their tracker, so while you can use the Chat Plugin without the Distributed Database, you won't be able to use the virtual channel feature if you disable the Distributed Database.

1.4.2 Ratings & Comments
This plugin will allow you to see ratings & comments from other users, as well as rate and comment a torrent yourself (right click the torrent in "My Torrents" then choose "ratings & comments". This plugin uses the Distributed Database, so you need to have the Distributed Database enabled for it to work.

2. Upgrade Advice

2.1 Java 5.0
Azureus is written in Java and requires the Java runtime. We recommend Java 5.0 (also known as 1.5) as it has better performance and reliability - please upgrade if necessary. You'll find torrents to update Java here : http://azureus.sourceforge.net/download.php Download the one for your system, close Azureus, execute the downloaded file, then restart Azureus. WinXP users will have to go to Tools > Config > Interface > Display, and re-check the "Enable XP Style" option.

2.2 NOD32
NOD32 (http://www.nod32.com/) is an antivirus which is known to have problems with Azureus, causing 100% CPU usage. See http://azureus.aelitis.com/wiki/index.p ... tReconnect

3. Common Issues

3.1 NAT "error"
NAT means "Network Address Translation". The NAT test in Azureus tells you whether or not you are connectable from people on the internet. You'll get better speeds if you ARE connectable. Please don't contact us in order to solve NAT issues, as plenty resources are available on the internet about it. First check : - http://azureus.aelitis.com/wiki/index.p ... Forwarding - http://www.portforward.com

3.2 Azureus Crashing
If your Azureus is crashing, the most likely reason is an issue with your network components (card, drivers, OS). We highly recommend that you update all network related components. If this doesn't help, then the reason is probably that your system can't handle that many peer connections. Lower the number of connections in Azureus (Tools > Options > Transfer > Maximum number of connections per torrent / globally), try a low value like 30 first.

3.3 Support
Before contacting the support team, be sure to check the available resources at : - The official WebSite : http://azureus.sourceforge.net/ - The official Wiki : http://azureus.aelitis.com/wiki/ - The official IRC Channel : #azureus-users on irc.freenode.net - The official SF forums : http://sourceforge.net/forum/?group_id=84122 - IF (and only IF) you can't solve your issue after trying ALL those mediums, you can contact us at azureus@gmail.com

4. Full ChangeLog
http://azureus.sourceforge.net/changelo ... on=2.3.0.0

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Post by beer » May 4th, '05, 14:23

Yeah, the new Azureus is nice, but it seems it needs a few wrinkles ironed out.

It will definitely be interesting to see what happens when a tracker goes down (/me knocks on wood), though.

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Post by seneschal » May 4th, '05, 18:25

Yeah, it seems nice, but I'm wondering whether all that overhead for the distributed database is getting used?

It would seem to me relatively simple to add the feature to allow searches on the distributed database. After that is done then it will really make Bittorrent much more useful and user friendly (and RIAA-unfriendly at that) since the reliance on a tracker is a major chink in the armor.
beer wrote:Yeah, the new Azureus is nice, but it seems it needs a few wrinkles ironed out.

It will definitely be interesting to see what happens when a tracker goes down (/me knocks on wood), though.

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Post by seneschal » May 4th, '05, 22:56

I was just running Azureus 2.3.0.0, boy it is a major resource hog!!!

I'm running a Dell XP SP2 512 MB 2.4 GHz, it slows down my computer to a crawl. I had to quit it to be able to use the browser. I'm running it on a full T-1 too. Throughput was OK but it slowed all of my other tasks down, I thought I was running a 386 again?

I guess it's just a problem with Java, huh. Anyone else with the same problem?
http://azureus.sourceforge.net/whatsnew2300.php

1. What's new in Azureus 2.3.0.0

1.1 Distributed Database
Azureus now has a distributed, decentralised database that can be used to track decentralised torrents. This permits both "trackerless" torrents and the maintenance of swarms where the tracker has become unavailable or where the torrent was removed from the tracker. It uses the UDP protocol, if you have a firewall/router, you will need to open/forward the UDP port in the same way you did with TCP to download data.

1.1.1 Magnet Links
For torrents that are tracked decentrally, Azureus can export a "Magnet Link". This is of the form "magnet:?xt=urn:btih:..." and can be used to download the torrent from the distributed database via the "open->url" menu item.

1.2 Enhanced Protocol
Azureus now supports an enhanced inter-client messaging protocol, which is aimed at allowing plugins to use the connections created by Azureus to add functionality to the program. Other clients developers can see the specifications for this protocol at http://azureus.aelitis.com/wiki/index.p ... ngProtocol . Plugin developers can check the plugin javadocs to see how to use it. For example, the JPC and Chat plugins make use of this messaging extension.

1.3 JPC
Joltid Peer Cache (JPC) is now integrated into Azureus. For users whose ISP support this, JPC should allow faster downloads, while helping the ISP reduce its bandwidth costs. The JPC Plugin is safe in the way that your ISP won't know what you are downloading, and can't use it to spy on you. The JPC plugin can be disabled through Tools > Options > Plugins > JPC.

1.4 Featured Plugins
The Distributed Database and the Enhanced Protocol allowed us to develop some new plugins. We won't auto install them for you, but we recommend all users who might be interested in them to install them using the Plugins > Installation Wizard menu.

1.4.1 Chat
This plugin will create a discussion channel for each torrent you are downloading. Each channel is independent, and you are free to discuss whatever you want inside the channel. This plugin makes use of the Enhanced Protocol. Developers of other clients willing to implement the chat functionality in their client are welcome to take a look at the very simple protocol used and described here : http://azureus.aelitis.com/wiki/index.php/ChatPlugin . You can also create/join an arbitrary channel by typing in its name inside the plugin. This will have the effect of creating a "virtual" torrent, with no seeds, in order to allow users to create connections to chat. The "virtual" torrents make use of the Distributed Database as their tracker, so while you can use the Chat Plugin without the Distributed Database, you won't be able to use the virtual channel feature if you disable the Distributed Database.

1.4.2 Ratings & Comments
This plugin will allow you to see ratings & comments from other users, as well as rate and comment a torrent yourself (right click the torrent in "My Torrents" then choose "ratings & comments". This plugin uses the Distributed Database, so you need to have the Distributed Database enabled for it to work.

2. Upgrade Advice

2.1 Java 5.0
Azureus is written in Java and requires the Java runtime. We recommend Java 5.0 (also known as 1.5) as it has better performance and reliability - please upgrade if necessary. You'll find torrents to update Java here : http://azureus.sourceforge.net/download.php Download the one for your system, close Azureus, execute the downloaded file, then restart Azureus. WinXP users will have to go to Tools > Config > Interface > Display, and re-check the "Enable XP Style" option.

2.2 NOD32
NOD32 (http://www.nod32.com/) is an antivirus which is known to have problems with Azureus, causing 100% CPU usage. See http://azureus.aelitis.com/wiki/index.p ... tReconnect

3. Common Issues

3.1 NAT "error"
NAT means "Network Address Translation". The NAT test in Azureus tells you whether or not you are connectable from people on the internet. You'll get better speeds if you ARE connectable. Please don't contact us in order to solve NAT issues, as plenty resources are available on the internet about it. First check : - http://azureus.aelitis.com/wiki/index.p ... Forwarding - http://www.portforward.com

3.2 Azureus Crashing
If your Azureus is crashing, the most likely reason is an issue with your network components (card, drivers, OS). We highly recommend that you update all network related components. If this doesn't help, then the reason is probably that your system can't handle that many peer connections. Lower the number of connections in Azureus (Tools > Options > Transfer > Maximum number of connections per torrent / globally), try a low value like 30 first.

3.3 Support
Before contacting the support team, be sure to check the available resources at : - The official WebSite : http://azureus.sourceforge.net/ - The official Wiki : http://azureus.aelitis.com/wiki/ - The official IRC Channel : #azureus-users on irc.freenode.net - The official SF forums : http://sourceforge.net/forum/?group_id=84122 - IF (and only IF) you can't solve your issue after trying ALL those mediums, you can contact us at azureus@gmail.com

4. Full ChangeLog
http://azureus.sourceforge.net/changelo ... on=2.3.0.0
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Post by beer » May 4th, '05, 23:03

Nope, I notice no difference except that its seeding habits aren't too good, possibly due to 'anti-leech' measures taken.

HP XP SP2 512 MB 2.8 GHz a bit better than T1

P.S. If you have nod32 exclude javaw.exe (or whatever it is) from its monitoring list.

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Post by veritati » May 5th, '05, 04:07

BT-Slut wrote:You're just full of mis-information and contradictions, aren't you?

First, you make a delcaration that makes it sound like you're an expert programmer, then you disclose that you don't know much about programming and we shouldn't rely on you for explanations.
And you are? I am just trying to help people by passing on what I learned. If you know everything already then just ignore my post. Unlike you, there are many people who don't know too much about bittorrent and wishes to have better download speed. (Are you worried that if they get better download speed that you would get less?) True, I am not a programmer or software engineer, and I don't wish to claim that I am one either. The internet is full of resources that if anyone wants to learn something they can. And that's how I solved my problem.
BT-Slut wrote:You are spewing out total mis-information. First, there's no registry hack or setting change to achieve what you claim. You need to actually hack TCPIP.SYS to allow it to open up more than the 10 half-open connections limit that SP2 placed. This ONLY applies to XP users who have updated to SP2. If you're using SP1 or lower, this does NOT apply to you.
Apparently you don't really know what you are talking about. You should really go and work for Microsoft.
BT-Slut wrote:Next, in ABC, going from yellow to green is NOT achieved by this registry hack you claim or even updating the TCPIP.SYS file. It has everything to do with configuring correct port-forwarding in your router or opening the correct ports in your software firewall. Allowing more half-open connections would never in itself change yellow to green. That's not how it works.
Well, that IS how it worked for me as I'd already explained. I don't use a router as I said, and firewall has nothing to do with it. It works the same if I turn it on or off. Seems like you are the one who doesn't know what he's talking about.
BT-Slut wrote: Lastly, while BT is a protocal and in theory it should achieve the same speed no matter which program you use, actual implememtion of the BT protocal does vary and actual real world performance does indeed change depending on which program you use.
Everyone knows that. That's why people are asking to see what people's experiences are with different clients. You are either too stubborn or ignorant to see the topic of this thread. However, the way people configure their computer AND client does affect their download speed. Two people using the same configured client but differently configured computer will get different speed. Do you not admit that? If not, try it yourself and get back to me.

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Post by BT-Slut » May 5th, '05, 10:08

Oh brother. Give me a break. You don't know what the hell you're talking about so stop trying to dig yourself into a deeper hole. It was the tone of your original message--which made it sound like you knew definitively what you were talking about--that I had problems with. Helping people is great. But don't come off souding like you're an expert on the subject and that you're giving out factual information when, infact, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. You are spewing mis-information. Boat loads of it.

My understanding of BitTorrent technology and networking in general may not be perfect, but I'll bet my knowledge of them against yours any day. I stand by what I said in my previous post. My information is correct. Yours is just plain wrong.

The sun does not rise from the west and set in the east because you think it does.
veritati wrote:
BT-Slut wrote:You're just full of mis-information and contradictions, aren't you?

First, you make a delcaration that makes it sound like you're an expert programmer, then you disclose that you don't know much about programming and we shouldn't rely on you for explanations.
And you are? I am just trying to help people by passing on what I learned. If you know everything already then just ignore my post. Unlike you, there are many people who don't know too much about bittorrent and wishes to have better download speed. (Are you worried that if they get better download speed that you would get less?) True, I am not a programmer or software engineer, and I don't wish to claim that I am one either. The internet is full of resources that if anyone wants to learn something they can. And that's how I solved my problem.
BT-Slut wrote:You are spewing out total mis-information. First, there's no registry hack or setting change to achieve what you claim. You need to actually hack TCPIP.SYS to allow it to open up more than the 10 half-open connections limit that SP2 placed. This ONLY applies to XP users who have updated to SP2. If you're using SP1 or lower, this does NOT apply to you.
Apparently you don't really know what you are talking about. You should really go and work for Microsoft.
BT-Slut wrote:Next, in ABC, going from yellow to green is NOT achieved by this registry hack you claim or even updating the TCPIP.SYS file. It has everything to do with configuring correct port-forwarding in your router or opening the correct ports in your software firewall. Allowing more half-open connections would never in itself change yellow to green. That's not how it works.
Well, that IS how it worked for me as I'd already explained. I don't use a router as I said, and firewall has nothing to do with it. It works the same if I turn it on or off. Seems like you are the one who doesn't know what he's talking about.
BT-Slut wrote: Lastly, while BT is a protocal and in theory it should achieve the same speed no matter which program you use, actual implememtion of the BT protocal does vary and actual real world performance does indeed change depending on which program you use.
Everyone knows that. That's why people are asking to see what people's experiences are with different clients. You are either too stubborn or ignorant to see the topic of this thread. However, the way people configure their computer AND client does affect their download speed. Two people using the same configured client but differently configured computer will get different speed. Do you not admit that? If not, try it yourself and get back to me.

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Post by seneschal » May 5th, '05, 16:45

Now, now, this is turning into a rag-fest. Let's try to be civil here.
I think it's called a "Forum," not a "Pillory":

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Post by drama » Jun 27th, '05, 06:09

I use Azureus, but have a problem cause I use zonealarm and it just kill almost all downloads

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Post by rambutan » Jun 28th, '05, 02:03

I have two PCs at home. One uses bittornado the other BitComet. Both have strengths and weaknesses. Bittornado gives the most fantastic speed but also the lousiest, especially in finishing. Most times, when file is 90% dl, speed crawls to 0-3 (my max speed obtained is 100KB/s; normal 20-50KB/s). Also, ul/dl ratio is crazy, 2.0x-3.0x. BitComet is more consistent with dl speed say, 10-30KB/s and is quite stingy at ul. UL/DL speed averages 1.0x or slightly lower. Also, its ability to latch onto seeds makes for a smoother finishing. So I am happy to have both - bittornado for the high dl speed and seeding, and BitComet for batch torrents (because of its consistent/steady speeds) and sometimes for finishing. For "finishing", I transfer the file from the bittornado PC if speed comes to a crawl after 90% and seeds are not willing to dl.

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Post by rambutan » Jun 28th, '05, 02:46

thetenken wrote:I'm currently using BitComet right now, after going through ABC, Azureus (a while ago), BitTornado.

Problem with BitTornado: For some reason, I've been getting a yellow light recently, and has been affecting my downloads. Lack of multi-torrent support.
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Me too. Nine out of 10x, I get yellow light throughout. After 80% or 90%, speed starts to crawl and finishing is a torture (0-1Kb/s). Can't latch onto seeds like BitComet does. Anyone knows why?

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Post by kermit » Jun 28th, '05, 03:15

lucypcng wrote:
thetenken wrote:I'm currently using BitComet right now, after going through ABC, Azureus (a while ago), BitTornado.

Problem with BitTornado: For some reason, I've been getting a yellow light recently, and has been affecting my downloads. Lack of multi-torrent support.
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Me too. Nine out of 10x, I get yellow light throughout. After 80% or 90%, speed starts to crawl and finishing is a torture (0-1Kb/s). Can't latch onto seeds like BitComet does. Anyone knows why?
Make sure your bit-torrent ports are not being blocked by your firewall

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Post by SevenSeas » Jul 16th, '05, 03:28

i have been using ABC for quite a while. The downside is that when you download multiple torrents, it eats a lot of cpu and memory then it crashes. I will try this new XBT client. Have anyone have feedbacks on this?

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Post by dznutz » Jul 20th, '05, 01:11

veritati wrote: As for download speed: it has nothing to do with which client you are using.
yes it does. older versions of bitcomet show faster stats. you know why?
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it tracks communication uploads and downloads as part of the file upload and download. hahaha.

but the new version took care of that when people were complaining that they uploaded and downloaded more than the filesize.

BACK ON THE SUBJECT AT HAND
asians tend to go for bitcomet wheras euros go for azureus. just my observation in private trackers.

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Post by Templar » Jul 20th, '05, 01:24

I'm currently using Azureus 2.3.0.4 and havn't had any troubles or slow down. Perhaps having the latest version of Java installed might help? I'm only runnig an AMD 1850 with 1gb of memory and my CPU usage is 2%.

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Post by tranman66 » Jul 20th, '05, 11:44

does NAT error only applly to azureus?

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Post by azzwipe » Jul 20th, '05, 12:28

I started out using the official client. Didn't take me long to try something else.

Then I tried ABC and it was pretty good for a while.

Then Azureus which I liked, but somehow my downloads were very slow or rather I was hardly downloading anything at all.

Switched to Bitcomet and haven't looked back. I have used it from vers. 0.56-0.59 (current version) and to me it seems like it's the best. I probably won't switch unless there's some new client suddenly everybody's raving about or somehow they implement some horrible features into bitcomet.

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Post by letmerest » Jul 22nd, '05, 05:10

i just used bitorrent yesterday! chose bitcomet 'cause most people suggested it and feel great!Though my upload speed always greater than my download speed,eg,60KB>42KB/s :cry:

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Post by georgeyklee » Jul 22nd, '05, 05:19

try. Bitspirit i personally think it pretty good. it gives me a decent speed unlike Azureus or Bitcomet. not to be bias, Bitcomet is pretty good with asian site torrent that has multi-tracker, it can pick up seed/leecher pretty darn quick. For Azureus, they update every single time, fixing from bugs, core fix, etc. just that one will get a lot of unfinish coding and errors,bugs. there're always on improving the software.

try as many bittorrent software and see which software works on ur computer. just remember if u have firewall, OPEN the port.

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Post by dznutz » Jul 26th, '05, 00:58

georgeyklee wrote:try. Bitspirit i personally think it pretty good. it gives me a decent speed unlike Azureus or Bitcomet. not to be bias, Bitcomet is pretty good with asian site torrent that has multi-tracker, it can pick up seed/leecher pretty darn quick. For Azureus, they update every single time, fixing from bugs, core fix, etc. just that one will get a lot of unfinish coding and errors,bugs. there're always on improving the software.

try as many bittorrent software and see which software works on ur computer. just remember if u have firewall, OPEN the port.
dude, bitspirit IS bitcomet. it used bitcomet's programing and added some stuff. so it's just bitcomet with a search function.... or was it bitcomet with an "xxx chat" option in your menu bar. if you take a quick look at the 2 you can't tell the difference.

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Welcome letmerest and happy downloading ^_^
dznutz wrote:BACK ON THE SUBJECT AT HAND
asians tend to go for bitcomet wheras euros go for azureus. just my observation in private trackers.
So, what are Americans using? :D
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Although this thread is a little bit aged I'd like to add my 2 cents, since I just switched to Azureus...

I started with Shadow's experimental a long while back. Was okay, but I can't live without a queueing system.

Got ABC and I love it, just downloaded the newest version (3.0.1).
It's easy to handle and has a simple interface. Rightclick gives you perfect control over each individual download.
Super-seed mode is super. Good for monitored seeding (when I sit next to my compi ^_^). No problems resuming files.
Very stable. ABC goes well with ZoneAlarm Firewall, so no problems with yellow lights / connections to peers.
Negative: No handling of other peer's connections (just statistics...). ((no single download within batch-torrents-edit:NOT TRUE.see EJKat's post further down)).
Doesn't write everything to disc instantly (= I tried to resume a file I've started downloading with ABC up to 85% in Azureus --> Azureus said, download is only 75%. Otherwise round, if Azureus downloads 75% and I resume with ABC, it's still 75%.)

got Azureus 2.3.0.4 just 1 month ago.
Is a little bit faster than ABC. Handling not as easy as ABC at first. I can't set lots of options for individual downloads.
Can do single downloads within batch-torrents. Gives you control over Peer's connections. Lot's of useful statistics there. Writes to disk instantly. Good for monitored downloads/seeding. Has (only?) overall super-seed.
New version with new Java works fine with me, stable. No problems with ZoneAlarm so far, no yellow lights.
Negative: I can't set individual upload options (except for speed) for each download. Very inconvenient when I want to seed one torrent to 150% and another to 100%.
When resuming, I need to copy the file to the d/l-location FIRST and then load the .torrent to Azureus. Loading .torrent to Azureus and then copying the file to the d/l-location starts torrent at 0% instead of 100%.

ABC and Azureus run smoothly alongside at the same time ^_^ , sharing whatever bandwidth is there. Only start up of torrents is slower.

One thing I learned from Azureus: Most peers who can't connect to me (and others as well) use Bitcomet. So I think, though I never used it, that Bitcomet isn't that easy to configure if you use a complex firewall or router.

OVERALL:
I think ABC is easier for beginners and Azureus is for squeezing out everything you can get out of a download.
I use ABC for overnight downloading and Azureus for overnight seeding.
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Post by ShapeShifta » Aug 4th, '05, 21:49

I use Azureus, because even before I knew how to properly open ports to get the best possible downspeed, it always had better download rates than most BT client's I've tried. One major drawback is you need atleast 512mb of ram as this sucker kills the bejesus out your cpu. It's written in java and practically runs on any OS that java runs on, which is good when you want to have some familiar progs on another OS. If you on a very low end pc, best try bitcomet or abc (other alternatives i thought were good).

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Post by eosforo » Aug 7th, '05, 03:34

I have a question.... I'm using the same client for a lot of time, never thought about changing... it is really necessary? I mean, it changes about the speed of the download?

Coz, I think it's just... the same? I don't know -___---

Why should I have to change?

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Post by empressxia » Aug 7th, '05, 03:41

Azureus has the best options and features but it takes up a lot of my RAM making it hard to run other applications.
I use BitComet now. It doesn't have has many options but because it's C++ based it doesn't hog memory.

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Post by Lowest » Aug 7th, '05, 04:14

eosforo your dl/ul speed won't change with different clients (unless some are really crap :P)

I have a crappy laptop that I always use and I use Az on that and though it does take up a lot of memory I can run the computer fine with it going, I've tried mostly every other BT program there is but Az wins hands down for features, it has everything you could ever need and more :P
After that I'd say Bitcomet is pretty good feature wise kind of basic/simple which is good for newbies :D so if you're new to it all you might want to stick with Bitcomet but if your more a more experienced 'power user' then Az is the one to go for.

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Post by beer » Aug 7th, '05, 12:03

Seeding with Azureus 2.3.0.4 is horrible. Uploads stop after each piece and only resume when new clients connect or old clients reconnect. And bandwidth remains unused meanwhile. It might work in huge swarms, but using it is ridiculous here on d-addicts.

I'd use something else, but... I have managed to download stuff thanks to DHT with the tracker unavailable during the whole duration of dowload - a feat I haven't been able to perform with other DHT sloutions out there.

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Post by yt_toshi » Aug 7th, '05, 12:15

@beer: Seeding with Azureus isn't horrible at all. I use it a lot when I seed dramas for other people and the only problem I've ever encounter is when the tracker on d-addicts is down. I'm not sure if other people experience what you said, but it works for me.
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Post by EJKat » Aug 7th, '05, 14:11

I use ABC although I don't know that it's the best -- although I like it a lot more than burst which was the first client I tried. this threads given me some good ideas for clients to try when I have the time.
meanwhile, I wanted to point out that this:
Negative: no single download within batch-torrents.
isn't true, I DL single files in ABC with no problem.

select the torrent and go to torrent details; open file info; select all files, right click and choose download never; then select the files you want, right click and select download normally. Start torrent. It will throw off your UL/DL ratio settings (if you set a ratio rather than a time limit for seeding) but other than that it so far has worked perfectly. I do this while the torrent is queued up, not running, but I don't know if it matters. I'm sure it's much easier to do in other clients, but it can be done!

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Post by hakuharu » Aug 7th, '05, 15:30

EJKat wrote:select the torrent and go to torrent details; open file info; select all files, right click and choose download never; then select the files you want, right click and select download normally. Start torrent. It will throw off your UL/DL ratio settings(...)
EJKat, I love you!!! :w00t:
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Post by EJKat » Aug 10th, '05, 14:43

glad my measly knowledge helped!! :D

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Post by ahweigor » Aug 16th, '05, 19:42

I've used Azureus, BitTornado / TheSHAD0W's experimental BT client, BitComet, official BT client (by Bram Cohen)...

I have to say BitComet was the best one to me, and i am still using it now!

Azureus, was the worst out of the bunch! it uses more memory and need Java thingy to work, just a pain in the ass

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Post by ~Adam~ » Sep 19th, '05, 04:02

Started with Shadows then used Bit Tornado, and now I am using Azureus.

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Post by Silvestre » Oct 11th, '05, 21:08

BitComet...hands down! :D

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Post by fairx » Oct 12th, '05, 05:37

I'm using µTorrent rite now. http://www.utorrent.com/

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Post by adrian22 » Oct 12th, '05, 05:48

strongly recommend bitcomet!!! never had any problems with it...i was really glad i switched from azureus to bitcomet....bitcomet is the best!!
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Post by draco » Oct 19th, '05, 12:57

Hi I'm a newb and I got a newb question :roll
curently I'm using Azureus and whenever I d/l the speed is unstable, for e.g. it's jumping suddenly from 2kb/s to 4kb/s and suddenly to 7kb/s etc....
I don't find this issue when I'm using the bittornado ( the basic bittorent client) are you guys having the same problem with me? or maybe I have a wrong configuration? :blink

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Post by dogujenny » Oct 20th, '05, 01:38

hi!!!!!!!1
how can I download or chose the bittorrent client?
please help me

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Post by draco » Oct 21st, '05, 06:56

@dogujenny : there are many kind of bittorent clients, you gotta google it to find the site
Azureus, Bitcomet, Bittornado are good. But I don't recommend Azureus if you have a low spec
comp since it eats up alot of ur memory

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Post by vearn27 » Oct 26th, '05, 01:08

Bitcomet all the while till now :wink:

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Post by crazylife123 » Oct 26th, '05, 01:10

Bitcomet hands down...never had any problems

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thank u

Post by anyala » Oct 31st, '05, 05:43

thnaks for the info...it really helps!!

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Post by ryohei_ichiban » Nov 5th, '05, 19:05

i'm currently using the official client on my laptop but found it too slow! recently i bought a new PC and intend to try another BT client on it. can anyone recommend a relatively crash-free client? it seems that many pple are voting for Bitcomet? my PC's Pentium 4 with 3.06GHz and has 512MB RAM. Pls help...thanks!

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Post by Sammystic » Nov 16th, '05, 17:42

I used the official client first but now I use Azureus and BitTornado.

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Post by jekki2chipo » Dec 1st, '05, 05:25

how do i go about in downloading the client.

This is my frist time using torrent.

After downloading the client, what do i need to do in order to download the torrent.

Thanks.

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Post by 8yuan » Dec 1st, '05, 20:20

http://www.bittorrent.com/ I went to that website to download. What client is that?

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Post by panthera » Dec 10th, '05, 08:29

bit comet is definitely the best... now i regret ever using azureus... totally slow down my computer...

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Post by blizzard » Dec 13th, '05, 06:12

My first bittorrent client is bitcomet n i'm still using it until now....easy to use n user friendly....i love it :-)

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Post by shuduck » Dec 17th, '05, 08:43

anybody uses bitlord? cos i do. i duno if it sux as much as what my bro alwaz say it does. he is using ABC himself

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Post by Jung Se jin » Dec 24th, '05, 07:00

Go for BitComet!! This is the best client ever made.....

:thumright: Simple interface!
:thumright: Easy to use!
:thumright: Organize your download and upload very well!
:thumright: The very best thing u can BANNED people who arent sharing their file or
download rate are high but upload rate are very low...I mean very low!!
:thumright: No hash check to continue download.....Touch N Go!
:thumright: U can monitor everything about ur download, upload rate, system speeds
and status and lots more!

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:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :thumleft:

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Post by canon05 » Dec 24th, '05, 07:25

shuduck wrote:anybody uses bitlord? cos i do. i duno if it sux as much as what my bro alwaz say it does. he is using ABC himself
Bitlord is unsafe that's why nobody uses bitlord. You can find further info in this thread ---- http://www.d-addicts.com/forums/viewtop ... ht=bitlord

The programs on the poll list are most reliable and free from spywares.

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Post by AsianDramaLover » Dec 28th, '05, 19:55

I am using Azuerus right now. i have tried using bit comet and bit tornado. Does the clinet you use affet the speed the files are downloaded at?

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hey, question

Post by Chenjamin » Dec 31st, '05, 17:29

how do u get ur download speed higher, for some time i get 90kb/s and tehn sometimes 6kb/sec, it is sorta unstable, is it because i am using wireless connection. cuz if it is, i will have to switch connection with my dad or buy a new cable,.... thank you...PLZ HELP

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Post by anakmelayu » Jan 4th, '06, 02:58

...u should try downloadin from private tracker....try download the latest noruto/bleach, and see how fast can it go...mine download sped as high 800kbps
http://www.geocities.com/sliver_nine/speed.jpg

using azureus (not the latest version) rite now...customizable feature-package (plugin) despite of resource hungry beast (higher cpu usage, more than 200mb memory needed ) ... overall, not much differrent in speed between other BT client. it all depend on the seeder

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Post by Chenjamin » Jan 4th, '06, 23:52

wait, i have 10mb/s internet cable connectin but i dont have that fast of a download speed....and how do u download taht fast.....and wat are these trackers thingy....sorry, i am new, thank you

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Post by :bunny: » Jan 5th, '06, 00:35

@Chenjamin are you behind firewall?
so tell me how u spell love (:

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Post by xjmeex » Jan 6th, '06, 20:30

how much is the average of kbs?which one is the fastest?

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Post by kent666 » Jan 6th, '06, 20:58

I've always used Azureus for some time now. Anyway, I would recommend Azureus if you have a nice and hefty computer since it is a resource hogger due to it's java implementation and knowingly it is created through java.

The other thing also is that I've tested BitComet and it's pretty nice to have a new thing like BitComet since it has many different new features and doesn't use much resources. Also, BitComet are Chinese, Japanese, Asian language-friendly.

I have a problem with Azureus when I download certain files when the filename is written in Asian language particularly Chinese, it gives me an error and does not download the file. So, first time I've tried BitComet to test it if I can download the file what can I say it does download and finished it and view it even.

I would recommend both Azureus and BitComet whichever you prefer and depends on your PC specification. There are some bittorrent client that can do and some just can't do it.

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Post by anakmelayu » Jan 7th, '06, 00:37

well said!! :thumleft:

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Post by ljuz_mel » Jan 12th, '06, 05:17

HiHi, i'm using BitComet. Was wondering how u guys can get speed up to 400 or 800? My download speeds, whether i'm using BitTornado or BitComet or Azerus, have never exceeded 20! =| Is there something that i didn't choose to apply? I'm kinda new to .torrents. Pls enlighten me. I also saw someone asking if it's behind firewall. Does it mean that if we're not behind a firewall it'll be faster? But if we're aren't behind a firewall, wouldn't we be prone to bugs?

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Post by Chenjamin » Jan 13th, '06, 02:10

hey bunny,
how can i check if i am behind firewall or not, i am not really that great wtih computers,
also, i haev switched wirelss to wired connection now, and my download speed had increased to 100kb/s to 400 kb/s altogether, but each file downloads 30 or 40 on average max, however, for some reason, the JAY Chow album collection that i downloaded was 300 kb/s weird....i really want a stable internet that gives a really fast speed.
do you think that my router affects my download speed, cuz i know taht when i do the interenet speed test with only one computer hooked on teh internt, i have 2.6 mb/s but with other computers on, my download rate is 1.5 mb/s But i paid for a 10 mb/s internet.....
therefore, how should i improve and view if my firewall is on or not.......but if i turn firewall off, will my computer be more vulnerable to bugs and spywares?
Thank you!!!!!!

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Post by anakmelayu » Jan 13th, '06, 08:23

-u have NAT prob..
-go to 'windows firewall' check exception tabs- (any prog. / port fwd)
-check ur antivirus firewall (disable/enable)

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Post by anamcara » Jan 15th, '06, 16:20

I use utorrent - which is not on the list so I did not vote.

Its a nice and simple client and has all the features the average user - like me - needs.
BUT I get much faster up- and download speeds than with Azureus or ABC (which I used before). :D

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Post by :bunny: » Jan 15th, '06, 23:45

Chenjamin wrote:hey bunny,
how can i check if i am behind firewall or not, i am not really that great wtih computers,
also, i haev switched wirelss to wired connection now, and my download speed had increased to 100kb/s to 400 kb/s altogether, but each file downloads 30 or 40 on average max, however, for some reason, the JAY Chow album collection that i downloaded was 300 kb/s weird....i really want a stable internet that gives a really fast speed.
do you think that my router affects my download speed, cuz i know taht when i do the interenet speed test with only one computer hooked on teh internt, i have 2.6 mb/s but with other computers on, my download rate is 1.5 mb/s But i paid for a 10 mb/s internet.....
therefore, how should i improve and view if my firewall is on or not.......but if i turn firewall off, will my computer be more vulnerable to bugs and spywares?
Thank you!!!!!!
here u go http://www.d-addicts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1831
what u need to do is do some port forwarding
therefore u don't need to disable your firewall ^^
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Post by wingsky » Jan 15th, '06, 23:47

I use azureus, but i hate it... no choice for mac ppls. Wish bitcomet was available on mac though... its the best one IMO
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Post by Chenjamin » Jan 16th, '06, 19:02

thanks bunny,
i didnt really understand it but i was wondering if my firewall has already made the exception of bitcomet, would that work?
Sry for any inconveniences....Thanks again

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Post by :bunny: » Jan 19th, '06, 07:18

Chenjamin wrote:thanks bunny,
i didnt really understand it but i was wondering if my firewall has already made the exception of bitcomet, would that work?
Sry for any inconveniences....Thanks again
hmmmm try the NAT test here: http://btfaq.com/natcheck.pl
if you passed the test, then you're on ^^
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Post by MoerkJ » Jan 19th, '06, 07:32

anamcara wrote:I use utorrent - which is not on the list so I did not vote.
woops.. added µTorrent so you can vote now too. :mrgreen:

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Post by anamcara » Jan 20th, '06, 10:18

MoerkJ wrote:
anamcara wrote:I use utorrent - which is not on the list so I did not vote.
woops.. added µTorrent so you can vote now too. :mrgreen:
..how nice....thanks... just did it!!

Not that it makes much difference in this 'BitComet dominated world' but it adds to the variety.

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Post by SkylineGTR34 » Jan 27th, '06, 06:06

I switched from Bittornado to Bicomet and never looked back. lol

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Post by nofeelnoluv » Feb 1st, '06, 16:35

can u guy tell me izit many tracker hav ban bitcomet? heard frm other ppl cz i experienced cant connect 2 several tracker n seem ther many peer but oni manage connect 2 sum pls help

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Post by yt_toshi » Feb 1st, '06, 16:38

nofeelnoluv wrote:can u guy tell me izit many tracker hav ban bitcomet? heard frm other ppl cz i experienced cant connect 2 several tracker n seem ther many peer but oni manage connect 2 sum pls help
Yes, check this article out --> [url=http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=1021]BitComet Banned From Growing Number of Private Trackers[/url]

Some people are now going to utorrent and other clients, but there are still alot of people who are still using BitComet today.
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Post by assaopix » Feb 1st, '06, 17:08

Not sure about speed in all clients, but it seems all bittorent clients seem to have a download and upload quota and how it respond to other clients.

After experimenting with so many clients, this is what I came to(just some personal taughts :P )

Azureus : From built 2.3.0.6 this java based client seem has been stable down in terms of handling with computer memory. Max speed upload can be easily obtain in 10 minutes because there are more Azureus users. Still its recomended for those who have more then 512Mb of ram for smooth ride.

Bitcomet : bulit 0.59 is the best to stay with. Stable upload per download qouta. Constant speed in 10-15 minutes. . Bad thing is its public DHT making it banned from many trackers. :glare: Version .60 has low pickup in obtaining constant speed and quite a number loyal users whine about this release

µTorrent : Just started to use this client .203, just nice because it offers almost all the basic needs and cater some usually advance feature. Downloads can come to a constant speed at 10 minutes too. But one thing I liked was it uses a little amount of ram when minimized about 3k+ with 10 active tasks :O Bad thing is in the new built .204 which offer better advance option it has some conflict with Netlimiter 3 and causes "memory leak" like what has happened with Bittornado which leads to total stall. Hope they will fix it in the next built.

For now I am sticking with latest version of Java + Azureus and keeping Bitcomet 0.59 on the reserve bench :lol
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UTORRENT is the way to GO

Post by smxo3o2 » Feb 1st, '06, 17:19

Screw the rest. I've used all but Shareaza and eXeem. But I am willing to bet Utorrent is above it.

UTORRENT - http://www.utorrent.com/

It takes only 5-7 megabytes of Mem and is only a few Kilobytes.

Anyone using Azureus should drop it. That thing took like 50MB of my memory. Killed my whole computer. Utorrent takes only 5-7MB and you just dl and run it. There really is no install.

It doesn't even feel like you have a BT client running.

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