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X-Japan = Best band ever!

VioletUK wrote:X-Japan = Best band ever!

Woah. You and P.M. Koizumi must be their biggest fans:

http://www.japan-zone.com/modern/koizum ... hiro.shtml

Not exactly "hardcore" but pretty close, have you ever heard of "Boris" ? I saw them play in Tokyo and left with a black eye.

http://pitchforkmedia.com/record-review ... -uta.shtml

We are using the loose definition of hardcore: Never represented in the Oricon 100 ;^)

Guess that excludes X-Japan! Haw haw!

Haha I love X Japan

Can anyone upload some music by Boris?

You can get Boris from dead-frog torrents.

So, wait, all bands not on Oricon 100 are the "good" bands? Sorry, but there are lot of really talented bands that did make it there too. Like L'Arc, Luna Sea, Siam Shade. I mean jeeze, Daita is a freaking AWESOME guitarist. And I'm pretty sure all of them have made it onto the Oricon.

He didn't say that all bands NOT on Oricon 100 are good, he said all the bands ON Oricon 100 don't count.
Most likely because they're big-name over-produced crap, and to learn about them you certainly wouldn't need a post on a forum since they all have billion-yen publicity budgets.

Exactly as ephesus said. And they all have threads dedicated to them already.

pokute wrote:
VioletUK wrote:X-Japan = Best band ever!
Woah. You and P.M. Koizumi must be their biggest fans:

http://www.japan-zone.com/modern/koizum ... hiro.shtml

probably

how about Onmyouza? kinda strange when JE fangirl says it but it IS one of my fav bands

^ Thats not "hardcore"

Some really hard piece of **** ive been into lately is

[img]http://mclub.te.net.ua/images/alb/cover2337_18633.jpg[/img]

They kick ass, melodic deathblackorchestrahardcore whatever

Romance wrote:^ Thats not "hardcore"

so has any of their songs been in the Oricon 100 chart? I'm pretty sure none of them has ever made it and I would be very surprised if any of their songs appear in the chart in the future....that's why I mentioned this band

Blood Stain Child looks pretty good!! Can't find any torrents... foo.

yamatsumi wrote:
Romance wrote:^ Thats not "hardcore"
so has any of their songs been in the Oricon 100 chart? I'm pretty sure none of them has ever made it and I would be very surprised if any of their songs appear in the chart in the future....that's why I mentioned this band

Uh, strange reasoning you got there. So bands that dont reach the charts are automatically hardcore? Even these?
[img]http://www.nojeshuset.se/gfx/foton/Bimage009.gif[/img]

Why Onmyouza isnt hardcore doesnt take long to figure out.

1. They make themes for animes

And they have been in the oricon and done really well there, their last album GARYOTENSEI went straight to the 8th place for example.

^ read the thread from the beginning not only the last post
but if you say they were in the Oricon 100 than sorry. Ive been interested in Oricon 100 for about 5 years now and I must have missed them.
but maybe someone would be interested in the link anyway

Oh sorry i only read the first and last one, impatiently me
i owned myself

Try Sigh (black, death metal).

Their album released last year absolutely sucks but their back catalogue are some of the most respectable music you'll find for somewhat experimental groovey black metal music.

I'll post up a few a mp3 sampes later. I particularly recommend the album Imaginary Sonicscape.

pokute wrote:Blood Stain Child looks pretty good!! Can't find any torrents... foo.

Here is their mini album Silence of Northern Hell:

http://s18.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2U1S ... 9L4ANLOWS1

Another band i got into recently is Gilgamesh, upped one of my favs there too "[Goku]":

http://s18.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3TN4 ... 7B80V63AB5

Another one to check out is Coaltar of the Deepers, here is one of their few pvs to easily stream:

http://www.youtube.com/?v=LKBo4uD-Xrg

^Thanks for the links.

A couple of tracks from Imaginary Soniscape (Sigh's most accessible album):

http://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3DXP ... ZNTGGOTSZS

http://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1SWT ... 5C4AL91U5X

its all about Sex Machineguns...they totally rock

There's some great torrents of the show 'Nippon Music Champ' on isohunt that are worth the time it takes to dl them. Great stuff:

http://isohunt.com/torrents.php?ihq=nip ... xt=&op=and

Are there any japanese bands with really good guitar play?
And I'm not talking about the typical power chord play of most bands.

there are just as many japanese bands with good guitar play as there are bands from america with good guitar play

Well, Chabo Reichi is a great guitar player, but his albums suck!!

Thinking about that, it's sorta the same with David Lindley and Ry Cooder... they can play anything, but their albums all suck suck suck.

Basically, guitarists should not be allowed to produce their own albums...

There's a couple of huge batch torrents of Japanoise at dead-frog right now. Is everybody dl'ing them? I hope so!

never been much for noise ;) There has to be atleast some kind of melody in the music i listen too.

Romance wrote:there are just as many japanese bands with good guitar play as there are bands from america with good guitar play

I wasn't applying that there wasn't good guitar play or guitarist in Japan. Just asking if anyone knew of others I may not have heard of. On the flip side, there are just as many simple chord playing bands that don't hold my interest here in American as there are in Japan. My favorite rock band in the world is The Brilliant Green. Ryo Matsui is an awesome guitar player.

pokute wrote:Well, Chabo Reichi is a great guitar player, but his albums suck!!

Thinking about that, it's sorta the same with David Lindley and Ry Cooder... they can play anything, but their albums all suck suck suck.

Basically, guitarists should not be allowed to produce their own albums...

I think you may be right. Ryo's album "meister - I met the music" sux too.

hmmm would Kana count or is that just falling under the category "So weird you gotta hear it to believe it"

I will not be able to sleep now, knowing that that exists. I saw a pic of her wearing some kinda fairy outfit and kissing a huge rat...

Visual kei pwnz!!

rico2001 wrote:
Romance wrote:there are just as many japanese bands with good guitar play as there are bands from america with good guitar play
I wasn't applying that there wasn't good guitar play or guitarist in Japan. Just asking if anyone knew of others I may not have heard of. On the flip side, there are just as many simple chord playing bands that don't hold my interest here in American as there are in Japan. My favorite rock band in the world is The Brilliant Green. Ryo Matsui is an awesome guitar player.

Have you looked at X Japan's hide and pata?
Their duo lead are amazing.

Hide is also amazing!!

What do you mean by "Real Japanese hardcore." Is it like the traditional music that's being played or new music that isn't very popular?

What are you afraid of? Mention your band and take your beating!

PlanderZ is not hardcore!!!! BALZAC is hardcore!!!!!

Wahaha! They look hilarious! http://www.balzac308.com/

you should go to one of their show!!! they did a tour with the misfits a few months ago in the US... you should also check their video at youtube!!!

saw planderz before reminds me of kanju battle!!!!

wondering why this was not moved long ago. moving to Jp Entertainment.

pokute wrote:What are you afraid of? Mention your band and take your beating!

Does Jinkaku Radio and Naitomea count?? >_<;; *runs and hides* I don't follow Oricon so I have no idea what they're 'status' is... they're just two bands I randomly found while out searching for new music.

*preps self for beating*

How about Galneryus and Aushvitz? Both are bands of Syu, one of my fave guitarists, the guy got some mad skills... ^__^ Sample some Galneryus songs here: http://www.myspace.com/galneryusworld

And also Head Phones President, pretty good band too....

Romance wrote:
Another one to check out is Coaltar of the Deepers, here is one of their few pvs to easily stream:

http://www.youtube.com/?v=LKBo4uD-Xrg

nice PV... i kinda like OBSCUREd by Dir en Grey a little better in terms of PV... but my vote goes to X-Japan, Sex Machineguns and countless other visual kei bands...

then again i havent been introduced to proper japanase "hardcore"... ill subscribe to this thread to check out more suggested tunes..

I'm known to be a bit critical.. but isn't that industrial?
Don't get me wrong, I like it though.

And damn, it's hard to find mp3s of them.

hm my favorite active hardcore band from japan is FC FiVE. they are so fun!
i like tons of other bands.
BBQ chickens, idol punch, slight slappers, gauze, vivisick, banjax, f**ck you heros, HERO. all these bands are really awesome and are active. there are soooo many more though!

VioletUK wrote:X-Japan = Best band ever!

i agree!!kurenai rocks.!

You can't talk real J music without mentioning SexMachineguns! Ultimate speed metal merchants. Funny videos too! http://japansugoi.com/wordpress/sex-mac ... al-videos/

Ah, I like Antic Cafe alot!

Is that hardcore? xD

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