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Japanese Hardcore Music - Wusses stay away!!

Post by pokute » Feb 24th, '06, 21:00

I am totally fed up with everyone melting and oozing al over the latest by Morning Musume... I want to hang with fans of PlanderZ and Boris!!

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Post by VioletUK » Feb 24th, '06, 21:13

X-Japan = Best band ever!

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Post by pokute » Feb 24th, '06, 21:17

VioletUK wrote:X-Japan = Best band ever!
Woah. You and P.M. Koizumi must be their biggest fans:

http://www.japan-zone.com/modern/koizum ... hiro.shtml

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Post by ephesus » Feb 24th, '06, 21:21

Not exactly "hardcore" but pretty close, have you ever heard of "Boris" ? I saw them play in Tokyo and left with a black eye.

http://pitchforkmedia.com/record-review ... -uta.shtml

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Post by pokute » Feb 24th, '06, 21:27

We are using the loose definition of hardcore: Never represented in the Oricon 100 ;^)

Guess that excludes X-Japan! Haw haw!

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Post by jho » Feb 24th, '06, 21:31

Haha I love X Japan XD Can anyone upload some music by Boris?

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Post by pokute » Feb 24th, '06, 21:32

You can get Boris from dead-frog torrents.

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Post by Schala » Feb 24th, '06, 22:12

So, wait, all bands not on Oricon 100 are the "good" bands? Sorry, but there are lot of really talented bands that did make it there too. Like L'Arc, Luna Sea, Siam Shade. I mean jeeze, Daita is a freaking AWESOME guitarist. And I'm pretty sure all of them have made it onto the Oricon.
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Post by ephesus » Feb 24th, '06, 22:21

He didn't say that all bands NOT on Oricon 100 are good, he said all the bands ON Oricon 100 don't count.
Most likely because they're big-name over-produced crap, and to learn about them you certainly wouldn't need a post on a forum since they all have billion-yen publicity budgets.

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Post by pokute » Feb 24th, '06, 22:21

Exactly as ephesus said. And they all have threads dedicated to them already.
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Post by VioletUK » Feb 24th, '06, 22:43

pokute wrote:
VioletUK wrote:X-Japan = Best band ever!
Woah. You and P.M. Koizumi must be their biggest fans:

http://www.japan-zone.com/modern/koizum ... hiro.shtml
probably

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Post by gunjourui » Feb 24th, '06, 23:18

how about Onmyouza? kinda strange when JE fangirl says it but it IS one of my fav bands :P
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Post by Romance » Feb 24th, '06, 23:30

^ Thats not "hardcore" :)

Some really hard piece of **** ive been into lately is

[img]http://mclub.te.net.ua/images/alb/cover2337_18633.jpg[/img]

They kick ass, melodic deathblackorchestrahardcore whatever

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Post by gunjourui » Feb 25th, '06, 00:24

Romance wrote:^ Thats not "hardcore" :)
:blink so has any of their songs been in the Oricon 100 chart? I'm pretty sure none of them has ever made it and I would be very surprised if any of their songs appear in the chart in the future....that's why I mentioned this band
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Post by pokute » Feb 25th, '06, 00:40

Blood Stain Child looks pretty good!! Can't find any torrents... foo.

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Post by Romance » Feb 25th, '06, 00:44

yamatsumi wrote:
Romance wrote:^ Thats not "hardcore" :)
:blink so has any of their songs been in the Oricon 100 chart? I'm pretty sure none of them has ever made it and I would be very surprised if any of their songs appear in the chart in the future....that's why I mentioned this band
Uh, strange reasoning you got there. So bands that dont reach the charts are automatically hardcore? Even these?
[img]http://www.nojeshuset.se/gfx/foton/Bimage009.gif[/img]

Why Onmyouza isnt hardcore doesnt take long to figure out.

1. They make themes for animes

And they have been in the oricon and done really well there, their last album GARYOTENSEI went straight to the 8th place for example.

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Post by gunjourui » Feb 25th, '06, 00:50

^ read the thread from the beginning not only the last post
but if you say they were in the Oricon 100 than sorry. Ive been interested in Oricon 100 for about 5 years now and I must have missed them.
but maybe someone would be interested in the link anyway :lol
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Post by Romance » Feb 25th, '06, 00:53

Oh sorry i only read the first and last one, impatiently me
i owned myself :(

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Post by zdoon » Feb 25th, '06, 00:54

Try Sigh (black, death metal).

Their album released last year absolutely sucks but their back catalogue are some of the most respectable music you'll find for somewhat experimental groovey black metal music.

I'll post up a few a mp3 sampes later. I particularly recommend the album Imaginary Sonicscape.
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Post by Romance » Feb 25th, '06, 01:08

pokute wrote:Blood Stain Child looks pretty good!! Can't find any torrents... foo.
Here is their mini album Silence of Northern Hell:

http://s18.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2U1S ... 9L4ANLOWS1

Another band i got into recently is Gilgamesh, upped one of my favs there too "[Goku]":

http://s18.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3TN4 ... 7B80V63AB5

Another one to check out is Coaltar of the Deepers, here is one of their few pvs to easily stream:

http://www.youtube.com/?v=LKBo4uD-Xrg

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Post by zdoon » Feb 25th, '06, 01:14

^Thanks for the links. :-)

A couple of tracks from Imaginary Soniscape (Sigh's most accessible album):

http://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3DXP ... ZNTGGOTSZS

http://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1SWT ... 5C4AL91U5X

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Post by BurnInYourLies » Feb 25th, '06, 01:37

its all about Sex Machineguns...they totally rock :mrgreen:

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Post by pokute » Feb 25th, '06, 02:18

There's some great torrents of the show 'Nippon Music Champ' on isohunt that are worth the time it takes to dl them. Great stuff:

http://isohunt.com/torrents.php?ihq=nip ... xt=&op=and

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Post by rico2001 » Feb 25th, '06, 02:29

Are there any japanese bands with really good guitar play?
And I'm not talking about the typical power chord play of most bands.
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Post by Romance » Feb 25th, '06, 02:46

there are just as many japanese bands with good guitar play as there are bands from america with good guitar play :-)
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Post by pokute » Feb 25th, '06, 02:46

Well, Chabo Reichi is a great guitar player, but his albums suck!!

Thinking about that, it's sorta the same with David Lindley and Ry Cooder... they can play anything, but their albums all suck suck suck.

Basically, guitarists should not be allowed to produce their own albums...
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Post by pokute » Feb 25th, '06, 02:49

There's a couple of huge batch torrents of Japanoise at dead-frog right now. Is everybody dl'ing them? I hope so!

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Post by Romance » Feb 25th, '06, 02:54

never been much for noise ;) There has to be atleast some kind of melody in the music i listen too.

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Post by rico2001 » Feb 25th, '06, 04:03

Romance wrote:there are just as many japanese bands with good guitar play as there are bands from america with good guitar play :-)
I wasn't applying that there wasn't good guitar play or guitarist in Japan. Just asking if anyone knew of others I may not have heard of. On the flip side, there are just as many simple chord playing bands that don't hold my interest here in American as there are in Japan. My favorite rock band in the world is The Brilliant Green. Ryo Matsui is an awesome guitar player.
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Post by rico2001 » Feb 25th, '06, 04:08

pokute wrote:Well, Chabo Reichi is a great guitar player, but his albums suck!!

Thinking about that, it's sorta the same with David Lindley and Ry Cooder... they can play anything, but their albums all suck suck suck.

Basically, guitarists should not be allowed to produce their own albums...
I think you may be right. Ryo's album "meister - I met the music" sux too.
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Post by techie » Feb 25th, '06, 04:20

hmmm would Kana count or is that just falling under the category "So weird you gotta hear it to believe it" :P
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Post by pokute » Feb 25th, '06, 05:25

I will not be able to sleep now, knowing that that exists. I saw a pic of her wearing some kinda fairy outfit and kissing a huge rat...

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Post by furransu » Feb 25th, '06, 05:36

Visual kei pwnz!! :D

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Post by tejizo » Feb 25th, '06, 17:07

rico2001 wrote:
Romance wrote:there are just as many japanese bands with good guitar play as there are bands from america with good guitar play :-)
I wasn't applying that there wasn't good guitar play or guitarist in Japan. Just asking if anyone knew of others I may not have heard of. On the flip side, there are just as many simple chord playing bands that don't hold my interest here in American as there are in Japan. My favorite rock band in the world is The Brilliant Green. Ryo Matsui is an awesome guitar player.
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Post by VioletUK » Feb 25th, '06, 21:55

Hide is also amazing!!

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Post by Okyo » Feb 26th, '06, 17:57

What do you mean by "Real Japanese hardcore." Is it like the traditional music that's being played or new music that isn't very popular?

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Post by pokute » Feb 26th, '06, 19:01

What are you afraid of? Mention your band and take your beating!

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Post by bluespring » Mar 9th, '06, 20:36

PlanderZ is not hardcore!!!! BALZAC is hardcore!!!!!

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Post by pokute » Mar 9th, '06, 20:43

Wahaha! They look hilarious! http://www.balzac308.com/

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Post by bluespring » Mar 9th, '06, 22:22

you should go to one of their show!!! they did a tour with the misfits a few months ago in the US... you should also check their video at youtube!!!

saw planderz before reminds me of kanju battle!!!!

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Post by jholic » Mar 10th, '06, 05:40

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Post by saffy » Mar 10th, '06, 13:40

pokute wrote:What are you afraid of? Mention your band and take your beating!
Does Jinkaku Radio and Naitomea count?? >_<;; *runs and hides* I don't follow Oricon so I have no idea what they're 'status' is... they're just two bands I randomly found while out searching for new music.

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Post by Furion » Mar 10th, '06, 18:10

How about Galneryus and Aushvitz? Both are bands of Syu, one of my fave guitarists, the guy got some mad skills... ^__^ Sample some Galneryus songs here: http://www.myspace.com/galneryusworld

And also Head Phones President, pretty good band too....

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Post by cmge » Mar 11th, '06, 03:58

Romance wrote:
Another one to check out is Coaltar of the Deepers, here is one of their few pvs to easily stream:

http://www.youtube.com/?v=LKBo4uD-Xrg
nice PV... i kinda like OBSCUREd by Dir en Grey a little better in terms of PV... but my vote goes to X-Japan, Sex Machineguns and countless other visual kei bands...

then again i havent been introduced to proper japanase "hardcore"... ill subscribe to this thread to check out more suggested tunes..

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Post by ephesus » Mar 11th, '06, 04:15

I'm known to be a bit critical.. but isn't that industrial?
Don't get me wrong, I like it though.

And damn, it's hard to find mp3s of them.

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Post by hereford » Jun 21st, '06, 10:32

hm my favorite active hardcore band from japan is FC FiVE. they are so fun!
i like tons of other bands.
BBQ chickens, idol punch, slight slappers, gauze, vivisick, banjax, f**ck you heros, HERO. all these bands are really awesome and are active. there are soooo many more though!

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Post by imaretard » Oct 8th, '06, 03:23

VioletUK wrote:X-Japan = Best band ever!
i agree!!kurenai rocks.!

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Post by Muffinhead; » Dec 17th, '06, 03:42

Ah, I like Antic Cafe alot!

Is that hardcore? xD

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