A Love To Kill (KBS2, 2005) with Bi/Rain

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Post by Kazuko » Nov 3rd, '05, 19:26

Can anyone reupload the trailers 1 & 2 please! Thanks :-)

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Post by zeuxism » Nov 3rd, '05, 21:54

oh my, my friend gave me a copy of epi 1 & 2 softsubbed by another team. Wonder if the translations do vary much.

Ahh, i'll just dl all. The files are really big and come up to more than 700mb including the .srt ones.

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Post by mangosteen » Nov 3rd, '05, 23:34

zeuxism wrote:oh my, my friend gave me a copy of epi 1 & 2 softsubbed by another team. Wonder if the translations do vary much.

Ahh, i'll just dl all. The files are really big and come up to more than 700mb including the .srt ones.
Which team are you talking about? I suggest you download both versions of subs and see if the translations vary much or not.

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Post by kookoo » Nov 4th, '05, 09:40

hi i was wondering is there a difference between the soft subs for high quality episodes and medium quality episodes. or can you use the soft subs for any version.
sorry if i posted this in the wrong section, it just occurred to me reading this thread

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Post by zgnoud » Nov 4th, '05, 14:36

kookoo wrote:hi i was wondering is there a difference between the soft subs for high quality episodes and medium quality episodes. or can you use the soft subs for any version.
sorry if i posted this in the wrong section, it just occurred to me reading this thread
Yeah could anyone also tell me if the Sub packs work with the other video versions? aka. 350mb / 700 mb. i just want to know so that if it happens to work for both version, ill might as well get the 350 thanks :)

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Post by joeyclaire » Nov 4th, '05, 14:55

seirin wrote:Korean to English translation for ep1 is out. produced by Bummie and soompi collaboration.

IJUKSA Epi 01.KOR.HDTV.XViD-HODOLi-bsplayer.srt
http://s62.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0BLM ... UAD71D4L7V

IJUKSA Epi 01.KOR.HDTV.XViD-HODOLi-vobsub.srt
http://s62.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3QFB ... 0J77DGC71L

I'll upload hardsub 350mb file on megaupload soon.
zgnoud wrote:
kookoo wrote:hi i was wondering is there a difference between the soft subs for high quality episodes and medium quality episodes. or can you use the soft subs for any version.
sorry if i posted this in the wrong section, it just occurred to me reading this thread
Yeah could anyone also tell me if the Sub packs work with the other video versions? aka. 350mb / 700 mb. i just want to know so that if it happens to work for both version, ill might as well get the 350 thanks :)
The subs above for Ep.1 work perfectly with 350mb version. But the sub released for the current Ep.2 did not synch properly with 350mb. The sub team who did the Ep.2 used 700mb to do the timing...so ya...only subs release by bummie and the team @ soompi sync well with 350mb.

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Post by angelxmdawb » Nov 4th, '05, 15:52

Where is this torrent file again? I can't find it.

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Post by Romance » Nov 4th, '05, 15:58

among the torrents

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Post by MuSiC_RoCkz » Nov 5th, '05, 05:15

Can anyone help me upload the eps in either www.megaupload.com or www.yousendit.com please... i really want the eps but i just can't download them... so can anyone help me..????

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Post by zeuxism » Nov 5th, '05, 15:07

mangosteen: Mine was translated by eulicid. Are they the same? Don't suppose i'll be dling another version since my pc's running slow..=\

thanks all subbers for the effort!

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Post by seirin » Nov 5th, '05, 19:58

zeuxism wrote:mangosteen: Mine was translated by eulicid. Are they the same? Don't suppose i'll be dling another version since my pc's running slow..=\
eulicid translation is from chinese to english.
bummie, soompi translation is korean to english



Ijuska ep2 raw
size: 350mb (2 rar files)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WGC1X5P8 (part 1)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AAA1SGL3 (part 2)

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Post by zeuxism » Nov 5th, '05, 23:28

Thanks serin! I downloaded the .srt listed above and it works with the 700mb raw i have.

Btw, is there a much diff between the 350 and 700mb raw?

TIA~ =)

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Post by mangosteen » Nov 6th, '05, 02:46

zeuxism wrote:Thanks serin! I downloaded the .srt listed above and it works with the 700mb raw i have.

Btw, is there a much diff between the 350 and 700mb raw?

TIA~ =)
Not so much, I believe.

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Post by metrokid » Nov 6th, '05, 03:37

Wow... all of you are very efficient!!

I shall go and download the 350mb episodes now. By the way, may i know if the 350mb episode is raw or hardsubbed?

Because the one in the clubbox for episode1 is hard subbed, may i know if the episode 2 in the megaupload is hardsubbed as well?

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Post by MuSiC_RoCkz » Nov 6th, '05, 06:26

Thanks a lot....

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Post by seirin » Nov 6th, '05, 17:30

there's 2 versions of 350mb. Hard sub and raw. if the file name says hardsubbed. Its hardsubbed

Episode 2 soft sub srt file is posted here
http://www.d-addicts.com/forums/viewtop ... 377#258377

IJUKSA.01.HDTV.XviD-bummie.hardsub.avi
size: 350mb
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3B9ONLNS (part 1)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=E2705KIS (part 2)

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Post by metrokid » Nov 7th, '05, 15:06

seirin wrote:
zeuxism wrote:mangosteen: Mine was translated by eulicid. Are they the same? Don't suppose i'll be dling another version since my pc's running slow..=\
eulicid translation is from chinese to english.
bummie, soompi translation is korean to english



Ijuska ep2 raw
size: 350mb (2 rar files)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WGC1X5P8 (part 1)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AAA1SGL3 (part 2)
Hmm..... i cant's seem to download the part1.rar file. Does anyone experience the same problem? It stopped at 46% when i use a download manager to download. The part2 can be downloaded pretty quickly. I wonder why....????? :scratch:

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Post by seirin » Nov 8th, '05, 01:10

I dunno I just posted the files. The site might be busy maybe. The hardsub is posted anyhow


A.Love.to.Kill.E03.KOR.HDTV.XViD-HODOLi.avi
size: 700mn
http://down.clubbox.co.kr/bummie/d4yd4

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Post by MuSiC_RoCkz » Nov 8th, '05, 03:30

Can anyone teach me how to watch rar. video like using which player so i can watch it... i used Bsplayer to watch but cant... i used mediaplayer can't too... so can any one tell me which player to use so i can watch a rar. video

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Post by donna`LIN » Nov 8th, '05, 03:31

seirin wrote:there's 2 versions of 350mb. Hard sub and raw. if the file name says hardsubbed. Its hardsubbed

Episode 2 soft sub srt file is posted here
http://www.d-addicts.com/forums/viewtop ... 377#258377

IJUKSA.01.HDTV.XviD-bummie.hardsub.avi
size: 350mb
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3B9ONLNS (part 1)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=E2705KIS (part 2)
thank you for the links!! ^_^

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Post by seirin » Nov 8th, '05, 10:25

MuSiC_RoCkz wrote:Can anyone teach me how to watch rar. video like using which player so i can watch it... i used Bsplayer to watch but cant... i used mediaplayer can't too... so can any one tell me which player to use so i can watch a rar. video
you need winrar program to unzip the files into an avi file. Rar breaks down the file size.
Megaupload only allows up to 250mb upload for free. The file is 350. I split the avi file in 2 with winrar

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Post by MuSiC_RoCkz » Nov 8th, '05, 10:28

but i can't even unzip the file... they say they need wat volume thing...

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Post by seirin » Nov 8th, '05, 10:31

You need to download winrar to unzip the files. The avi is split into 2 files. You need both files to unzip. If you only have 1 file you will get error

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Can someone tell me how to use Club Box. I've DL the software but I don't read Korean so I don't know which of the icons is the DL button for the movies. When I click on the dark blue button with the arrow, it has me DL the software again. I can't set up an acct either. I tried but I think I'm getting an error message.

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Post by metrokid » Nov 8th, '05, 17:25

WHy not try going to the clubbox thread in korean entertainment forum. you will find very helpful links there.

It's quite difficult to explain unless you try it out on your own. No harm trying out dude, you will not spoil your computer by playing around with clubbox. :thumright:

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Post by jellybean » Nov 8th, '05, 23:49

in episode 1 near the beginning where you see SMA's character doing photoshoots etc, who spotted Miss Im Soo Jung ^__^? A nice tiny cameo from MiSa's main girl.

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Post by danielle » Nov 9th, '05, 01:24

Well I thought the full house had meaning, I really liked it :(. Yeah I agree SHG is a great actor, I don't know about shina mina, she might not compare.

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Post by mangosteen » Nov 9th, '05, 03:50

jellybean wrote:in episode 1 near the beginning where you see SMA's character doing photoshoots etc, who spotted Miss Im Soo Jung ^__^? A nice tiny cameo from MiSa's main girl.
That was the real photoshoot they did for Sad Movie, a new movie with Im Soo Jung, Shin Min Ah, Jung Woo Sung,...

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Post by seirin » Nov 9th, '05, 04:03

Ijuska ep3 raw
size: 350mb (2 rar files)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2YOTKRCJ
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2ASH0AGO

loved.e04-hodoli.avi
size: 700mb
http://down.clubbox.co.kr/bummie/8lne4

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Post by silverstarach » Nov 9th, '05, 13:18

seirin wrote:Ijuska ep3 raw
size: 350mb (2 rar files)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2YOTKRCJ
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2ASH0AGO

loved.e04-hodoli.avi
size: 700mb
http://down.clubbox.co.kr/bummie/8lne4
Thank you!!! :D

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Post by seirin » Nov 9th, '05, 19:58

sorry, I didn't realize first and second pass conversion differences were so noticable. I'll make the rest with second pass. First ep hardsub is the good quality one. Here is second ep hardsub better quality. I convert the rest with second pass.

ijuksa.02.hardsubbed[bummie]v2.avi (second pass)
size: 350mb
http://down.clubbox.co.kr/bummie/khse4

ijuksa.ep03.raw[bummie].avi (second pass)
size: 351.0 MB
http://down.clubbox.co.kr/bummie/aore4

I also noticed hodoni ep4 had a few video glitches. I uploaded pinetree version now. I haven't watched pine version, so this one might be better? I'm not sure.

A.Love.to.Kill.E04.HDTV.XviD-PiNETREE.avi
size: 700mb
http://down.clubbox.co.kr/bummie/ld4f4

This file shows filming of ijuksa with interviews. It has some sneak previews
051108_KM_News_(ijilsa-at KBS Drama Center)-full.avi
http://down.clubbox.co.kr/bummie/sj4f4

051108 kbs yeomanman (press con, ijuksa NG).avi
size: 152.1 MB
http://down.clubbox.co.kr/bummie/itne4

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Post by hN » Nov 11th, '05, 08:17

thanks soo much 4 sharing! :D

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Post by melonyhappy » Nov 11th, '05, 11:17

wow.. i just started watching this . it seems promising, usually i go for comedies, but i d/ed this cuz of Rain :P . It's cute that he's always sucking a lollipop. i thought he was smoking from the pics.. LOL.. it cracked me up when i saw him trying beat ppl up while sucking a lollipop.

it's also funny how everyone seems to be in love with him :lol

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Post by XiaoYu » Nov 11th, '05, 14:28

i like his new drama a love to kill but i don't watch it yet

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Post by jellybean » Nov 11th, '05, 23:36

I've watched the first 2 episodes and so far I'm not impressed with the drama, ...mainly due to the poor narrative and samey samey characterization (esp the CEO character..). I hardly know what's going on half the time leaving me feeling confused, the opening credits appear 20 minutes into the drama? I don't know if that's intentional or whatever.

I'm not fond of the actress Shin Min Ah at all, I don't have a particular 'favourite' korean actress so I'm saying this unbiasedly - shes unappealing, not charming (the classic "I'll kill you *cue threatening fist*" was dealt with so monotonously) and I found her acting skills not that great..she's rather annoying too. I actually have no sympathy or care of what happens to her character at all and as the main female protagonist I think she is very weak in carrying the role. Good gosh when shes crying on the steps I just wanted to throw a huge hanky over her head and tell her to shut up. I know its not her fault but her character of the 'poor little princess' whos famous but is suffering from some tortured lost love is just really irritating, and sorry to bash again (^__^)"" but SMA makes that role twice as annoying. I feel another more talented actress may have been able to make this character more appeasing.

I also feel that the storyline of why Bokgu wants to take revenge and the reasons why is really weak. It should be more hard hitting and leave an impact as to why he'd want to take such measures in the first place rather than {spoiler} being dumped because you're a growing star(which is what he believes) ..it just seems too superficial for such a "dark" drama.

The PD has incorporated too many arty scenes also which I think ruins the feel of the drama, some of the shots and photography is nice, (I liked the opening sequence) but the jagged jumpy shots here and there just make the narrative a zillion times messier.

Possible Spoiler****

ALSO the scene in episode 1 with regard to the brother falling off the building seemed almost ridiculous even though it should have been quite a shocking and emotional moment, after all this is why Bi is gettin all angry in the first place! I was also confused as to the relationship between the two brothers, one minute Bi's character is absolutely hating his brother, bitterly saying that he never wants to see him again...the next..hes sharing a beer after 10 years of hate, the relationship seemed to be amended all too easily. I thought the older brother kicked him out of his life and yet when they were reunited..all was forgotten but in an emotionally unrealistic way. I'm not Bi bashing but I feel this might have been due to his acting, its ambiguous in a negative way, throwing confusion (esp the scene at the hospital when he was ready to spit at his brother???!?!) when shouldn't his reaction be thinking "why the hell did you **refer to spoiler above**"


and....also..another thing that bugged me was the way the CEO and Eunsuk drama is playing out...for want of another word - just stupid. I think Lee Ki-woo is a very good actor but again its that SMA chick that just ruins the plot with her amateur acting and how the situation doesn't seem to be believable at all. In the "pirate filming" of them two she's blatantly showing discomfort yet its easily accepted at the announcement of their engagement???!?!?!? whhhhhhhhaaaaaaat? It just seems the usual, lets throw a filthy rich arrogant but wants a challenge type in as a quick way of complicating the plot and gettin SMA's character a bodyguard.

Some good though - I like the OST, I like the BGM, some of the shots are nice. Plus, it might get better, after all MiSa's first few episodes weren't all that great.

Although I read on soompi that this series is going to be 20 episodes long...I sense a lot of tedious misunderstanding ahead.

Feel free to correct or explain anything that would help this drama make more sense to me.

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Post by owl10 » Nov 12th, '05, 11:55

I think this drama has a very unique storyline...Bi is cool inside

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Post by lasusal » Nov 13th, '05, 00:25

i'm enjoying this so far, its getting more and more interesting even though the storyline seems very predictable.

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Post by Spike23 » Nov 13th, '05, 00:39

jellybean wrote:I've watched the first 2 episodes and so far I'm not impressed with the drama, ...mainly due to the poor narrative and samey samey characterization (esp the CEO character..). I hardly know what's going on half the time leaving me feeling confused, the opening credits appear 20 minutes into the drama? I don't know if that's intentional or whatever.

I'm not fond of the actress Shin Min Ah at all, I don't have a particular 'favourite' korean actress so I'm saying this unbiasedly - shes unappealing, not charming (the classic "I'll kill you *cue threatening fist*" was dealt with so monotonously) and I found her acting skills not that great..she's rather annoying too. I actually have no sympathy or care of what happens to her character at all and as the main female protagonist I think she is very weak in carrying the role. Good gosh when shes crying on the steps I just wanted to throw a huge hanky over her head and tell her to shut up. I know its not her fault but her character of the 'poor little princess' whos famous but is suffering from some tortured lost love is just really irritating, and sorry to bash again (^__^)"" but SMA makes that role twice as annoying. I feel another more talented actress may have been able to make this character more appeasing.

I also feel that the storyline of why Bokgu wants to take revenge and the reasons why is really weak. It should be more hard hitting and leave an impact as to why he'd want to take such measures in the first place rather than {spoiler} being dumped because you're a growing star(which is what he believes) ..it just seems too superficial for such a "dark" drama.

The PD has incorporated too many arty scenes also which I think ruins the feel of the drama, some of the shots and photography is nice, (I liked the opening sequence) but the jagged jumpy shots here and there just make the narrative a zillion times messier.

Possible Spoiler****

ALSO the scene in episode 1 with regard to the brother falling off the building seemed almost ridiculous even though it should have been quite a shocking and emotional moment, after all this is why Bi is gettin all angry in the first place! I was also confused as to the relationship between the two brothers, one minute Bi's character is absolutely hating his brother, bitterly saying that he never wants to see him again...the next..hes sharing a beer after 10 years of hate, the relationship seemed to be amended all too easily. I thought the older brother kicked him out of his life and yet when they were reunited..all was forgotten but in an emotionally unrealistic way. I'm not Bi bashing but I feel this might have been due to his acting, its ambiguous in a negative way, throwing confusion (esp the scene at the hospital when he was ready to spit at his brother???!?!) when shouldn't his reaction be thinking "why the hell did you **refer to spoiler above**"


and....also..another thing that bugged me was the way the CEO and Eunsuk drama is playing out...for want of another word - just stupid. I think Lee Ki-woo is a very good actor but again its that SMA chick that just ruins the plot with her amateur acting and how the situation doesn't seem to be believable at all. In the "pirate filming" of them two she's blatantly showing discomfort yet its easily accepted at the announcement of their engagement???!?!?!? whhhhhhhhaaaaaaat? It just seems the usual, lets throw a filthy rich arrogant but wants a challenge type in as a quick way of complicating the plot and gettin SMA's character a bodyguard.

Some good though - I like the OST, I like the BGM, some of the shots are nice. Plus, it might get better, after all MiSa's first few episodes weren't all that great.

Although I read on soompi that this series is going to be 20 episodes long...I sense a lot of tedious misunderstanding ahead.

Feel free to correct or explain anything that would help this drama make more sense to me.
Yea i totally agree with you, also there is moments that seem to linger. This drama isn't too bad, but there is many points that need justitfication. Also when Bi becomes a bodyguard moved way too fast. Things just seem to happen lol, doesn't make too much sense. Ah wellz will have to see what happend to keep going on.

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Post by WroW » Nov 13th, '05, 00:49

jellybean wrote:I've watched the first 2 episodes and so far I'm not impressed with the drama, ...mainly due to the poor narrative and samey samey characterization (esp the CEO character..). I hardly know what's going on half the time leaving me feeling confused, the opening credits appear 20 minutes into the drama? I don't know if that's intentional or whatever.

I'm not fond of the actress Shin Min Ah at all, I don't have a particular 'favourite' korean actress so I'm saying this unbiasedly - shes unappealing, not charming (the classic "I'll kill you *cue threatening fist*" was dealt with so monotonously) and I found her acting skills not that great..she's rather annoying too. I actually have no sympathy or care of what happens to her character at all and as the main female protagonist I think she is very weak in carrying the role. Good gosh when shes crying on the steps I just wanted to throw a huge hanky over her head and tell her to shut up. I know its not her fault but her character of the 'poor little princess' whos famous but is suffering from some tortured lost love is just really irritating, and sorry to bash again (^__^)"" but SMA makes that role twice as annoying. I feel another more talented actress may have been able to make this character more appeasing.

I also feel that the storyline of why Bokgu wants to take revenge and the reasons why is really weak. It should be more hard hitting and leave an impact as to why he'd want to take such measures in the first place rather than {spoiler} being dumped because you're a growing star(which is what he believes) ..it just seems too superficial for such a "dark" drama.

The PD has incorporated too many arty scenes also which I think ruins the feel of the drama, some of the shots and photography is nice, (I liked the opening sequence) but the jagged jumpy shots here and there just make the narrative a zillion times messier.

Possible Spoiler****

ALSO the scene in episode 1 with regard to the brother falling off the building seemed almost ridiculous even though it should have been quite a shocking and emotional moment, after all this is why Bi is gettin all angry in the first place! I was also confused as to the relationship between the two brothers, one minute Bi's character is absolutely hating his brother, bitterly saying that he never wants to see him again...the next..hes sharing a beer after 10 years of hate, the relationship seemed to be amended all too easily. I thought the older brother kicked him out of his life and yet when they were reunited..all was forgotten but in an emotionally unrealistic way. I'm not Bi bashing but I feel this might have been due to his acting, its ambiguous in a negative way, throwing confusion (esp the scene at the hospital when he was ready to spit at his brother???!?!) when shouldn't his reaction be thinking "why the hell did you **refer to spoiler above**"


and....also..another thing that bugged me was the way the CEO and Eunsuk drama is playing out...for want of another word - just stupid. I think Lee Ki-woo is a very good actor but again its that SMA chick that just ruins the plot with her amateur acting and how the situation doesn't seem to be believable at all. In the "pirate filming" of them two she's blatantly showing discomfort yet its easily accepted at the announcement of their engagement???!?!?!? whhhhhhhhaaaaaaat? It just seems the usual, lets throw a filthy rich arrogant but wants a challenge type in as a quick way of complicating the plot and gettin SMA's character a bodyguard.

Some good though - I like the OST, I like the BGM, some of the shots are nice. Plus, it might get better, after all MiSa's first few episodes weren't all that great.

Although I read on soompi that this series is going to be 20 episodes long...I sense a lot of tedious misunderstanding ahead.

Feel free to correct or explain anything that would help this drama make more sense to me.
I totally agree :-) ... but it gets better. I think after episode 4,which also was the best episode, the series might turn and become great.

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Post by melonyhappy » Nov 13th, '05, 02:18

was it really that bad?.. well now that you pointed it out, it seems a bit choppy, but when i watch this drama, i tend to skip a lot of scenes. Sometimes i get the ppl confused. I guess a lot of it seems a bit unbelievable. Bi just happened to get the bodygaurd position for the actress... and how does someone accidently fall down a building?

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Post by pingki » Nov 13th, '05, 02:24

jellybean wrote:I've watched the first 2 episodes and so far I'm not impressed with the drama, ...mainly due to the poor narrative and samey samey characterization (esp the CEO character..). I hardly know what's going on half the time leaving me feeling confused, the opening credits appear 20 minutes into the drama? I don't know if that's intentional or whatever.

I'm not fond of the actress Shin Min Ah at all, I don't have a particular 'favourite' korean actress so I'm saying this unbiasedly - shes unappealing, not charming (the classic "I'll kill you *cue threatening fist*" was dealt with so monotonously) and I found her acting skills not that great..she's rather annoying too. I actually have no sympathy or care of what happens to her character at all and as the main female protagonist I think she is very weak in carrying the role. Good gosh when shes crying on the steps I just wanted to throw a huge hanky over her head and tell her to shut up. I know its not her fault but her character of the 'poor little princess' whos famous but is suffering from some tortured lost love is just really irritating, and sorry to bash again (^__^)"" but SMA makes that role twice as annoying. I feel another more talented actress may have been able to make this character more appeasing.

I also feel that the storyline of why Bokgu wants to take revenge and the reasons why is really weak. It should be more hard hitting and leave an impact as to why he'd want to take such measures in the first place rather than {spoiler} being dumped because you're a growing star(which is what he believes) ..it just seems too superficial for such a "dark" drama.

The PD has incorporated too many arty scenes also which I think ruins the feel of the drama, some of the shots and photography is nice, (I liked the opening sequence) but the jagged jumpy shots here and there just make the narrative a zillion times messier.

Possible Spoiler****

ALSO the scene in episode 1 with regard to the brother falling off the building seemed almost ridiculous even though it should have been quite a shocking and emotional moment, after all this is why Bi is gettin all angry in the first place! I was also confused as to the relationship between the two brothers, one minute Bi's character is absolutely hating his brother, bitterly saying that he never wants to see him again...the next..hes sharing a beer after 10 years of hate, the relationship seemed to be amended all too easily. I thought the older brother kicked him out of his life and yet when they were reunited..all was forgotten but in an emotionally unrealistic way. I'm not Bi bashing but I feel this might have been due to his acting, its ambiguous in a negative way, throwing confusion (esp the scene at the hospital when he was ready to spit at his brother???!?!) when shouldn't his reaction be thinking "why the hell did you **refer to spoiler above**"


and....also..another thing that bugged me was the way the CEO and Eunsuk drama is playing out...for want of another word - just stupid. I think Lee Ki-woo is a very good actor but again its that SMA chick that just ruins the plot with her amateur acting and how the situation doesn't seem to be believable at all. In the "pirate filming" of them two she's blatantly showing discomfort yet its easily accepted at the announcement of their engagement???!?!?!? whhhhhhhhaaaaaaat? It just seems the usual, lets throw a filthy rich arrogant but wants a challenge type in as a quick way of complicating the plot and gettin SMA's character a bodyguard.

Some good though - I like the OST, I like the BGM, some of the shots are nice. Plus, it might get better, after all MiSa's first few episodes weren't all that great.

Although I read on soompi that this series is going to be 20 episodes long...I sense a lot of tedious misunderstanding ahead.

Feel free to correct or explain anything that would help this drama make more sense to me.
I totally agree with you after i watched ep1 too

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Post by pingki » Nov 13th, '05, 02:25

melonyhappy wrote:was it really that bad?.. well now that you pointed it out, it seems a bit choppy, but when i watch this drama, i tend to skip a lot of scenes. Sometimes i get the ppl confused. I guess a lot of it seems a bit unbelievable. Bi just happened to get the bodygaurd position for the actress... and how does someone accidently fall down a building?
That scene looks really stupid for me .

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Post by pingki » Nov 13th, '05, 02:44

jellybean wrote:I've watched the first 2 episodes and so far I'm not impressed with the drama, ...mainly due to the poor narrative and samey samey characterization (esp the CEO character..). I hardly know what's going on half the time leaving me feeling confused, the opening credits appear 20 minutes into the drama? I don't know if that's intentional or whatever.

I'm not fond of the actress Shin Min Ah at all, I don't have a particular 'favourite' korean actress so I'm saying this unbiasedly - shes unappealing, not charming (the classic "I'll kill you *cue threatening fist*" was dealt with so monotonously) and I found her acting skills not that great..she's rather annoying too. I actually have no sympathy or care of what happens to her character at all and as the main female protagonist I think she is very weak in carrying the role. Good gosh when shes crying on the steps I just wanted to throw a huge hanky over her head and tell her to shut up. I know its not her fault but her character of the 'poor little princess' whos famous but is suffering from some tortured lost love is just really irritating, and sorry to bash again (^__^)"" but SMA makes that role twice as annoying. I feel another more talented actress may have been able to make this character more appeasing.

I also feel that the storyline of why Bokgu wants to take revenge and the reasons why is really weak. It should be more hard hitting and leave an impact as to why he'd want to take such measures in the first place rather than {spoiler} being dumped because you're a growing star(which is what he believes) ..it just seems too superficial for such a "dark" drama.

The PD has incorporated too many arty scenes also which I think ruins the feel of the drama, some of the shots and photography is nice, (I liked the opening sequence) but the jagged jumpy shots here and there just make the narrative a zillion times messier.

Possible Spoiler****

ALSO the scene in episode 1 with regard to the brother falling off the building seemed almost ridiculous even though it should have been quite a shocking and emotional moment, after all this is why Bi is gettin all angry in the first place! I was also confused as to the relationship between the two brothers, one minute Bi's character is absolutely hating his brother, bitterly saying that he never wants to see him again...the next..hes sharing a beer after 10 years of hate, the relationship seemed to be amended all too easily. I thought the older brother kicked him out of his life and yet when they were reunited..all was forgotten but in an emotionally unrealistic way. I'm not Bi bashing but I feel this might have been due to his acting, its ambiguous in a negative way, throwing confusion (esp the scene at the hospital when he was ready to spit at his brother???!?!) when shouldn't his reaction be thinking "why the hell did you **refer to spoiler above**"


and....also..another thing that bugged me was the way the CEO and Eunsuk drama is playing out...for want of another word - just stupid. I think Lee Ki-woo is a very good actor but again its that SMA chick that just ruins the plot with her amateur acting and how the situation doesn't seem to be believable at all. In the "pirate filming" of them two she's blatantly showing discomfort yet its easily accepted at the announcement of their engagement???!?!?!? whhhhhhhhaaaaaaat? It just seems the usual, lets throw a filthy rich arrogant but wants a challenge type in as a quick way of complicating the plot and gettin SMA's character a bodyguard.

Some good though - I like the OST, I like the BGM, some of the shots are nice. Plus, it might get better, after all MiSa's first few episodes weren't all that great.

Although I read on soompi that this series is going to be 20 episodes long...I sense a lot of tedious misunderstanding ahead.

Feel free to correct or explain anything that would help this drama make more sense to me.
I totally agree with you after i watched ep1 too

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Post by lasusal » Nov 13th, '05, 02:44

that scene made me laugh, he probably was so shocked that he didnt realize what he was doing and that he wanted to reach out to her but its still pretty fake. It wouldve been much better if he ran outside and try to find her, he sees someone that he thought was her across the street, he wants to talk to her so he runs across the street but was tragically hit by a passing car, kang boku(bi) who was running after his brother witness the whole situation and coincidentally at that moment he sees the female lead and the rich guy pass by in a car.

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Post by msjang » Nov 13th, '05, 03:56

I just finish watching ep.4 and i LOVE the fact that the KISSING SCENE was so hot b/w Bi and Shin Min Ah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FINALLY BI is showing that he can do kissing scene again!
Cuz the one in full house was.....ehhhhh...and the one in SangDoo was pretty good....but this one was just HOT HOT HOT!!!!!!!!!

*EDIT*

OMG! IT just came to mw WHY Bok-Gu kissed eun sok like that!!!!!
I was so confused on why....but while i was typing the above and then re-watched it 1 more time......it came to me!!!! Halloluya!!!

Bok-gu kissed eun sok like that to stop her hik-ups that she had all day, ever since the filiming which brought back her bad memories from childhood.

HOW CLEVER!! Mad props to the scipt-writer!!!!!!!!
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Post by crazylife123 » Nov 13th, '05, 04:09

msjang wrote:I just finish watching ep.4 and i LOVE the fact that the KISSING SCENE was so hot b/w Bi and Shin Min Ah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FINALLY BI is showing that he can do kissing scene again!
Cuz the one in full house was.....ehhhhh...and the one in SangDoo was pretty good....but this one was just HOT HOT HOT!!!!!!!!!
He probably watched Full House and was disappointed on himself. Have to admit...the kissing scene was good between Bi and Shin Mina. 8)

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Post by msjang » Nov 13th, '05, 04:29

lasusal wrote:that scene made me laugh, he probably was so shocked that he didnt realize what he was doing and that he wanted to reach out to her but its still pretty fake. It wouldve been much better if he ran outside and try to find her, he sees someone that he thought was her across the street, he wants to talk to her so he runs across the street but was tragically hit by a passing car, kang boku(bi) who was running after his brother witness the whole situation and coincidentally at that moment he sees the female lead and the rich guy pass by in a car.
i like your idea, but i think that if Kang Min gu (the brother) runs across the street and gets hit by a car, that is gonna to too typical of a storyline, so i think the script-writer wanted to come up with something interesting, but i guess that it was too abnormal, for it to be realistic.

But for me, i think that the
falling off building
was believable......i thought that it flowed well, marking the end of the 1st episode, then the reasons to why he fell, are in the episodes to come

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Post by xKiMix » Nov 13th, '05, 05:43

I love this drama!!! Its so interesting!! Well then again anything with :wub: Bi :wub: is interesting. I also finished watching episode 4 and i thought
The kissing scene was great!!!!!! I was so shocked when i watched it, i was totally not prepared for it. :lol I watched it a couple of times. :lol Also, I have a feeling this drama is going to end sadly. The tone of the drama makes it look like its going to end tragically.
Am i the only one thinking this?? Either way I love it! I'm soooo excited for the episodes to come!! :D
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Post by son_yejin » Nov 13th, '05, 07:21

msjang wrote: But for me, i think that the
falling off building
was believable......i thought that it flowed well, marking the end of the 1st episode, then the reasons to why he fell, are in the episodes to come
I felt the
falling off the building part
was absolutely necessary. What the director was trying to achieve from such a scene is that of shock and the sudden loss of someone whom you just met after 10years right before your very eyes, in less than a second. Now that has more impact then say, him being run over from a car. Also, i felt the director was trying to
signify that Mingu was trying to reach out to someone/something impossible- Eun Seok.
xKiMix wrote:Am i the only one thinking this?? Either way I love it! I'm soooo excited for the episodes to come!!
Woah.. i thought the
kissing scene
was quite abrupt. Shocked me to no end, but then again, i watched the NGs before that, so lol.. i was already expecting it. pfff.... I have an inkling that this will be a tragic love story, one that will never fail to leave a lasting impression. I guess one can assume from the perpetually dismal and melancholic feel the whole drama has to it..

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Post by melonyhappy » Nov 15th, '05, 03:44

i'm still confused about the
kissing scene.. it totally wrecked the flow. why did he kiss her? so she would stop crying? geez. i thought he hated her.

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Post by seirin » Nov 15th, '05, 16:22

Love.E05-HODOLi.avi
http://down.clubbox.co.kr/bummie/b4ti4

love of death ep6 (low quality)
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To love. Epi 06-hodoli.avi
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Post by xKiMix » Nov 16th, '05, 03:47

seirin Thank you for the wonderful links!!! :D
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Post by andree » Nov 17th, '05, 21:44

seirin wrote:Love.E05-HODOLi.avi
http://down.clubbox.co.kr/bummie/b4ti4

love of death ep6 (low quality)
http://down.clubbox.co.kr/bummie/cs5j4

the site requires me to login now...it didn't last time..i've been downloading eps 1-4 without having to login... T___T

anybody else have this problem?

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Post by seirin » Nov 18th, '05, 03:05

I had to add a login to protect the box. I might get it opened on mon-wed. But its better to create an account and join the box....Its just getting a tad dangerous on clubbox these days with the banned files. Ijuksa is one of them. Actually...all the 3 stations banned clubbox now.

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Post by shinboi » Nov 18th, '05, 04:17

can someone upload ep 4 on megaupload or BT or something plz. i have ep 1-3, 5 and 6 except 4. anybody? thanks!

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Post by andree » Nov 18th, '05, 06:36

seirin wrote:I had to add a login to protect the box. I might get it opened on mon-wed. But its better to create an account and join the box....Its just getting a tad dangerous on clubbox these days with the banned files. Ijuksa is one of them. Actually...all the 3 stations banned clubbox now.
Oh...I understand what you're going through...
well..hopefully they won't notice your clubbox then ^^;;

thx for providing us with Juksa though...we appreciated it...especially those who don't have access to Korean TVs...

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Post by leestern » Nov 18th, '05, 10:43

seirin wrote:I had to add a login to protect the box. I might get it opened on mon-wed. But its better to create an account and join the box....Its just getting a tad dangerous on clubbox these days with the banned files. Ijuksa is one of them. Actually...all the 3 stations banned clubbox now.
But just a question: How do they ban cb ?

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Post by ookamiki » Nov 18th, '05, 13:20

i found this drama really awesome. At first, as i'm not really a bi fan, i didn't know what to do with it. But now i'm totally addicted.
I find this is the same tone as MISA. What do you guy think about it.

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Post by seirin » Nov 18th, '05, 19:29

leestern wrote:
seirin wrote:I had to add a login to protect the box. I might get it opened on mon-wed. But its better to create an account and join the box....Its just getting a tad dangerous on clubbox these days with the banned files. Ijuksa is one of them. Actually...all the 3 stations banned clubbox now.
But just a question: How do they ban cb ?
They gave CB a warning to remove all their station clips. So if CB catches anyone with those station files, they will first give you a warning, if they catch u with it again, they clear your box. Also you might get into legal lawsuits maybe...

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Post by SummerLoveRemix » Nov 18th, '05, 22:41

xKiMix wrote:I love this drama!!! Its so interesting!! Well then again anything with :wub: Bi :wub: is interesting. I also finished watching episode 4 and i thought
The kissing scene was great!!!!!! I was so shocked when i watched it, i was totally not prepared for it. :lol I watched it a couple of times. :lol Also, I have a feeling this drama is going to end sadly. The tone of the drama makes it look like its going to end tragically.
Am i the only one thinking this?? Either way I love it! I'm soooo excited for the episodes to come!! :D
Yeah, I agree. The overall mood is so depressing. But I guess that's just why I like it so much, lol. That scene was SO unexpected I think everyone had to watch it a few more times.

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Post by ladyfoxx » Nov 19th, '05, 07:40

I'm only sticking to this drama because I hate to not finish what I start. This drama is kinda overly dramatic to me. That kinda leads me to also believe that this drama will end tragically, if not dramatically. I'm also not feeling the actress... she's believable but I don't connect with her as I did with SHK in Full House. OH, does anyone else notice how they're totally showing Bi off-- his muscles, body when it's sweating, lips, tounge, etc.? He's totally eye candy for the female viewers! I'm sure a lot of you girls don't mind, but I'm not finding him attractive, although I do think his singing is sexy. (sorry, i digress)

The drama's emotional and I feel like they're dragging it on and on, which is why I kinda don't want to keep watching it, but the ending has me hanging on. :glare: Anyone else feels this way or maybe I'm alone on this? :scratch:

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Post by Bam-Bam » Nov 19th, '05, 10:29

It's been disappointing so far.

I've decided to stop downloading this drama. It's like the writer really has nothing to say.
I wasn't a big fan of "I'm sorry, I love you," either. The main problem has to do with conflict.
There isn't a well defined dramatic conflict which is "the soul" of soap operas in general.

There isn't a well definded good guy/bad guy, everyone is kind of murkey and so is this drama. It's sort of like everyone is stuck in mud and can't move. Also, there is no plot.

I'm enjoying "Pheonix," and "Super Rookie."

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Post by mangosteen » Nov 19th, '05, 10:39

ladyfoxx wrote:I'm only sticking to this drama because I hate to not finish what I start. This drama is kinda overly dramatic to me. That kinda leads me to also believe that this drama will end tragically, if not dramatically. I'm also not feeling the actress... she's believable but I don't connect with her as I did with SHK in Full House. OH, does anyone else notice how they're totally showing Bi off-- his muscles, body when it's sweating, lips, tounge, etc.? He's totally eye candy for the female viewers! I'm sure a lot of you girls don't mind, but I'm not finding him attractive, although I do think his singing is sexy. (sorry, i digress)

The drama's emotional and I feel like they're dragging it on and on, which is why I kinda don't want to keep watching it, but the ending has me hanging on. :glare: Anyone else feels this way or maybe I'm alone on this? :scratch:
Don't know why so many people are comparing SMA with SHK. They're so different. Look at the roles that they play, lol.

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Post by shinboi » Nov 19th, '05, 12:40

shinboi wrote:can someone upload ep 4 on megaupload or BT or something plz. i have ep 1-3, 5 and 6 except 4. anybody? thanks!
sorry for my stupid lazy ass for not searching before posting.. :lol
disregard my postings....

keep up the good work subbers and uploaders!!!! much props to u guys :thumleft:
i will do my share and keep my torrent uploads up too.

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Post by jaymeesyjuico » Nov 19th, '05, 18:42

How many episodes is this?

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Post by Hayashi_kun » Nov 19th, '05, 19:04

ladyfoxx wrote:I'm only sticking to this drama because I hate to not finish what I start.
The drama's emotional and I feel like they're dragging it on and on, which is why I kinda don't want to keep watching it, but the ending has me hanging on. :glare: Anyone else feels this way or maybe I'm alone on this? :scratch:
i feel exactly the same way as u. downloaded this because i liked Bi's previous works..
however im gonna continue, coz i hope not to miss a good drama, if it turns out to be one.. we can all decide that after the series end.
one thing i dun like is that the misunderstanding is not cleared, makes me feel so..
waiting for dat turning pt ep

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Post by Spike23 » Nov 19th, '05, 21:51

Yay
show started out kinda slow, but its aight so far still.
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Post by ladyfoxx » Nov 20th, '05, 00:51

mangosteen wrote:
ladyfoxx wrote:I'm only sticking to this drama because I hate to not finish what I start. This drama is kinda overly dramatic to me. That kinda leads me to also believe that this drama will end tragically, if not dramatically. I'm also not feeling the actress... she's believable but I don't connect with her as I did with SHK in Full House. OH, does anyone else notice how they're totally showing Bi off-- his muscles, body when it's sweating, lips, tounge, etc.? He's totally eye candy for the female viewers! I'm sure a lot of you girls don't mind, but I'm not finding him attractive, although I do think his singing is sexy. (sorry, i digress)

The drama's emotional and I feel like they're dragging it on and on, which is why I kinda don't want to keep watching it, but the ending has me hanging on. :glare: Anyone else feels this way or maybe I'm alone on this? :scratch:
Don't know why so many people are comparing SMA with SHK. They're so different. Look at the roles that they play, lol.
well, just to clear up what' I'm saying: I connect more, meaning I can relate more to SHK than SMA. I'm not comparing them to each other actually cuz that's obviously wrong.

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Post by WroW » Nov 20th, '05, 01:13

After 6 episodes I can clearly say that I am very happy they didnt cast SHK for this role...SMA is doing a great job and the series gets better and better.

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Post by tourmania » Nov 21st, '05, 18:06

I just uploaded Bi's "A Love to Kill "EPISODE 7 in my clubbox , I also have the OST of "A LOVE TO KILL in my clubbox.
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Post by vangpire » Nov 22nd, '05, 01:53

Thanks for the clubbox links! Is anyone having problems with clubbox? It won't let me DL. It keeps asking me to DL the setup program again, again, and again. Anyone have a solution to this? I've tried to paste the URL into my browser but it doesn't work either.

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Post by xKiMix » Nov 22nd, '05, 02:09

vangpire wrote:Thanks for the clubbox links! Is anyone having problems with clubbox? It won't let me DL. It keeps asking me to DL the setup program again, again, and again. Anyone have a solution to this? I've tried to paste the URL into my browser but it doesn't work either.
That keeps happening to me to, r u sure that you downloaded both programs, because one of them is the clubbox setup and then theres another one. After i downloaded both of them it started to work just fine :-)
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Post by vangpire » Nov 22nd, '05, 02:53

What other one? Where do I get it? I was able to DL other files from CB before. Tell which other file I would need and where to get it please. All I DL was the CB setup file.

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