[Discussion] Triangle
[Discussion] Triangle
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* Title: トライアングル
* Title (English): Triangle
* Format: Renzoku
* Genre: Mystery, suspense
* Broadcast network: Fuji TV
* Broadcast period: 2009-Jan-06 start
* Air time: Tuesday 22:00
Synopsis
The series starts with the murder of a 10-year-old girl in 1984. 15 years later, after the case goes unsolved and passes the statute of limitations, a doctor named Goda Ryoji suddenly quits from his hospital and eventually becomes a detective. In 2008, he meets a traveling artist in Paris, and shortly after Goda's return to Japan, he becomes involved in the expired murder case when another detective receives an anonymous phone call.
http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Triangle
Sounds like an interesting story with some interesting actors thrown in the mix. Looking forward to the first episode.
Hirosue Ryoko was a laugh in Yasuko to Kenji.
Sasaki Kuranosuke, he is just about in every drama Japan produces.
Aibu Saki was great in Zettai Kareshi and Ushi ni Negai wo: Love & Farm
Tanihara Shosuke. He is great as a comedic actor (Mop Girl, Ryokiteki na Kanojo) but I hope he plays a serious character in this.
Inagaki Goro Goro is an average actor but because he's in SMAP that should pull some ratings figures.
* Title: トライアングル
* Title (English): Triangle
* Format: Renzoku
* Genre: Mystery, suspense
* Broadcast network: Fuji TV
* Broadcast period: 2009-Jan-06 start
* Air time: Tuesday 22:00
Synopsis
The series starts with the murder of a 10-year-old girl in 1984. 15 years later, after the case goes unsolved and passes the statute of limitations, a doctor named Goda Ryoji suddenly quits from his hospital and eventually becomes a detective. In 2008, he meets a traveling artist in Paris, and shortly after Goda's return to Japan, he becomes involved in the expired murder case when another detective receives an anonymous phone call.
http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Triangle
Sounds like an interesting story with some interesting actors thrown in the mix. Looking forward to the first episode.
Hirosue Ryoko was a laugh in Yasuko to Kenji.
Sasaki Kuranosuke, he is just about in every drama Japan produces.
Aibu Saki was great in Zettai Kareshi and Ushi ni Negai wo: Love & Farm
Tanihara Shosuke. He is great as a comedic actor (Mop Girl, Ryokiteki na Kanojo) but I hope he plays a serious character in this.
Inagaki Goro Goro is an average actor but because he's in SMAP that should pull some ratings figures.
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Hooray for a winter mystery series! I'm definitely watching this one too.
The cast looks mostly great. It's gonna take a bit of psyching up to deal with Aibu Saki after Zettai Kareshi for me, so I'll just have to keep concentrating more on her role in Ushi ni Negai wo. I second the hope for Tanihara Shosuke to have a serious character here. Last time I saw him in a serious role in a mystery he was incredible, so it'd be nice to see him outside the comedy roles again. Really like the rest of the cast too.
The cast looks mostly great. It's gonna take a bit of psyching up to deal with Aibu Saki after Zettai Kareshi for me, so I'll just have to keep concentrating more on her role in Ushi ni Negai wo. I second the hope for Tanihara Shosuke to have a serious character here. Last time I saw him in a serious role in a mystery he was incredible, so it'd be nice to see him outside the comedy roles again. Really like the rest of the cast too.
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Triangle news -
Eguchi Yosuke & Hirosue Ryoko in Paris: http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/mo-andWwSsY/
Eguchi Yosuke & Hirosue Ryoko in Paris: http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/mo-andWwSsY/
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From a fan blog, I found out the fact that apparently Inagaki Goro's role doesn't exist in the original novel. He's Eguchi Yosuke's partner in the drama.
Reminds me of Shibasaki Kou's role in Galileo that doesnt exist in the novel too. But maybe her role was needed to add a bit of comedy and romance. Not sure why they added a male partner for Eguchi, though.
raven_frost, this is your blog?
http://jdramas.wordpress.com/
Thank you for translating some of the official website contents translation there^^
Hirosue Ryoko's character is suppose to be mysterious. Since her name and looks are similar to the 10 years old girl who was suppose to be murdered 25 years ago. But after I read the characters introduction, somehow her character become not so mysterious anymore x) (the characters intro kinda explained her being)
Reminds me of Shibasaki Kou's role in Galileo that doesnt exist in the novel too. But maybe her role was needed to add a bit of comedy and romance. Not sure why they added a male partner for Eguchi, though.
raven_frost, this is your blog?
http://jdramas.wordpress.com/
Thank you for translating some of the official website contents translation there^^
Hirosue Ryoko's character is suppose to be mysterious. Since her name and looks are similar to the 10 years old girl who was suppose to be murdered 25 years ago. But after I read the characters introduction, somehow her character become not so mysterious anymore x) (the characters intro kinda explained her being)
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Yup that's me.yanie wrote:From a fan blog, I found out the fact that apparently Inagaki Goro's role doesn't exist in the original novel. He's Eguchi Yosuke's partner in the drama.
Reminds me of Shibasaki Kou's role in Galileo that doesnt exist in the novel too. But maybe her role was needed to add a bit of comedy and romance. Not sure why they added a male partner for Eguchi, though.
raven_frost, this is your blog?
http://jdramas.wordpress.com/
Thank you for translating some of the official website contents translation there^^
Hirosue Ryoko's character is suppose to be mysterious. Since her name and looks are similar to the 10 years old girl who was suppose to be murdered 25 years ago. But after I read the characters introduction, somehow her character become not so mysterious anymore x) (the characters intro kinda explained her being)
I think Goro's character was introduced to add more drama to the story, additional plot device to introduce conflict and angst? His character is Goda's partner and also the son of the man who was involved in the murder investigation years ago and now heads the criminal division of the MPD. I don't know if Goro can pull if off.
As for Hirosue Ryoko's character, she seemed to imply something about her identity in the CM since at the end of it she said
How good this drama turns out to be probably hinges on how well it was written and the cast. I'm a bit ambivalent about this one but will watch to see how it turns out. Love mysteries.
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The website has been updated with pictures though the content is pretty much unchanged: http://ktv.jp/triangle/index.html
This drama is being touted as the most star-studded and biggest of the season besides Tenchijin.
This drama is being touted as the most star-studded and biggest of the season besides Tenchijin.
Anybody watched the pilot? It's pretty good!! Watching Eguchi Yousuke and Hirosue Ryoko together, I felt sooo natsukashi and once again think, "Yappari, senior actors and actresses are the best!!" Maybe I got tired with dramas starring young idols nowadays
My thoughts on Ep1:
Somehow I feel the directing and the atmosphere of this drama is similar to those from the end of 90s and the beginning of 2000s period. Is it just me? Or is it just because Eguchi and Hirosue? xD The titleback give me that feeling too.
Can't wait for more!! And I love the themesong, "Sayonara wa Iwanai" by Oda Kazumasa.
My thoughts on Ep1:
Can't wait for more!! And I love the themesong, "Sayonara wa Iwanai" by Oda Kazumasa.
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The first episode raised heaps of questions. I can't decide if it was a good or bad start. The acting quality wasn't consistent. And it was mostly an episode to introduce the players in the "game" with little characterisation.yanie wrote:Anybody watched the pilot? It's pretty good!! Watching Eguchi Yousuke and Hirosue Ryoko together, I felt sooo natsukashi and once again think, "Yappari, senior actors and actresses are the best!!" Maybe I got tired with dramas starring young idols nowadays
My thoughts on Ep1:Somehow I feel the directing and the atmosphere of this drama is similar to those from the end of 90s and the beginning of 2000s period. Is it just me? Or is it just because Eguchi and Hirosue? xD The titleback give me that feeling too.
Can't wait for more!! And I love the themesong, "Sayonara wa Iwanai" by Oda Kazumasa.
The only thing I figured was that there's a delusional mother and a man battling personal demons and self-loathing (?).
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Well, it's deliberately done to cast suspicion on him but it doesn't make sense.chokubi wrote:At this point, I think it's safe to assume that to figure out why Goda Ryoji is seemingly trying to let the cat out of the bag about himself being the culprit, despite him succeeding in hiding from the law prior to that.raven_frost wrote:...a man battling personal demons and self-loathing (?).
Anyway more revelations to cast other suspicions abound in Ep2.
Just watched episode 1! Was great! It's been a while since I've watched a drama with this level of suspense and its fairly fast paced too! The thing that really caught my attention was the music! I loved the piece they used at the closing scene where
It's the first time I've heard of Sawano Hiroyuki's work - VERY nice! I tried looking him up but couldn't find much info. What other dramas has he worked on? (Other than Maou)
I hope they can keep this up!! I'm really looking forward to episode 2. ^_^
It's the first time I've heard of Sawano Hiroyuki's work - VERY nice! I tried looking him up but couldn't find much info. What other dramas has he worked on? (Other than Maou)
I hope they can keep this up!! I'm really looking forward to episode 2. ^_^
Too many red herrings
It looks as though the writers are going to throw everything they can think of at you but the kitchen sink, all too common in Japanese dramas, IMO. Goda seems to be doing everything he can to draw attention (and suspicion) upon himself. It's so obvious that I doubt very much he's the killer. The really good murder mysteries are made by the British where red herrings (that make a little sense) are used sparingly and with subtlety that will really raise your suspicion, but this thing just bludgeons you with them.
Sawano Hiroyuki has composed music soundtracks for:sleepyzzz wrote:It's the first time I've heard of Sawano Hiroyuki's work - VERY nice! I tried looking him up but couldn't find much info. What other dramas has he worked on? (Other than Maou)
Nurse Aoi (2006, FujiTV)
Iryuu (2006, FujiTV)
Taiyou no Uta (2006, TBS)
Tokyo Tower (2007, FujiTV)
Iryuu 2 (2007, FujiTV)
Binbo Danshi (2008, FujiTV)
Hachi One Diver (2008, FujiTV)
source: japanese wikipedia
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From Yomiuri Daily:
TELEVIEWS / Fuji offers up promising drama for 50th anniversary
Wm Penn
Fascinating but confusing, the suspense drama Triangle (Tuesdays, Fuji, 10 p.m.) is also worth watching. But the complicated, meandering plot is full of twists, turns and dead ends.
The story begins with a series of flashbacks.
TELEVIEWS / Fuji offers up promising drama for 50th anniversary
Wm Penn
Fascinating but confusing, the suspense drama Triangle (Tuesdays, Fuji, 10 p.m.) is also worth watching. But the complicated, meandering plot is full of twists, turns and dead ends.
The story begins with a series of flashbacks.
Well, with the introduction of Shimano Takaya in ep2, things are starting to make a little more sense now. However every other thing is still pretty much in the air and will probably settle down with more new characters appearing in the storyline.
PS:
OST's great man, gonna check it out for sure (when it comes out).
OST's great man, gonna check it out for sure (when it comes out).
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Oh my God. The music is so intense. When Sachi was all "thanks for killing me", there was this super intense insert of drums and guitars and everything, and wow. So amazing.
And I realized why this drama reminded me so much of Ashita no Kita Yoshio, they're by the same director! Well, one of the same directors anyways.
LOLOL.
*DIESSSS* LOL.
Kohinata Fumiyo is amazing, for serious. <3
And I realized why this drama reminded me so much of Ashita no Kita Yoshio, they're by the same director! Well, one of the same directors anyways.
Kohinata Fumiyo is amazing, for serious. <3
When you said "In the next scene, his brother is helping him wash off the blood at home and telling him the statute of limitations on murder is 15 years" do you mean Goda Ryoji's 'brother'? I thought that he only had a sister; Goda Yui? At first I also thought that it might be his brother but in the credits and on the correlation chart it doesn't show him as having a brother? Perhaps he's just using that term oniichan as a older 'brother' friend figure? In the beginning of the 3rd episode before he awakens from the hospital bed he says either 'oniichan' or 'oneichan' in his flashbacks to the other boy he was talking to? I'm pretty sure it's oniichan but when he said that I was confused all over again. Who do you guys think that guy was that he was referring to as oniichan? Is it possibly Tomioka Yasushi or Akimoto Ryo?raven_frost wrote:From Yomiuri Daily:
TELEVIEWS / Fuji offers up promising drama for 50th anniversary
Wm Penn
Fascinating but confusing, the suspense drama Triangle (Tuesdays, Fuji, 10 p.m.) is also worth watching. But the complicated, meandering plot is full of twists, turns and dead ends.
The story begins with a series of flashbacks.
Ah, okay thankyou for the clarification . I guess I didn't pay attention to the family grave . I'm gonna re-watch that part again. So the person that Goda was talking to in the flashbacks was in fact his brother, but he died somehow? They didn't mention any other details regarding his death so far did they? Hopefully I didn't miss that as well..Kazuya_ wrote:It's revealed early on that Goda had an older brother who died. His name is inscribed on the family grave marker along with his parents. This is not connected to the plot so there's no reason to have it included on the correlation chart.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who absolutely LOOOVEEE the OST in this drama. I think the music really intensify this drama up a notch. At first I had little expectation of this drama, but now I'm completely hooked. Excellent casts + great storyline + phenominal OST = Triangle
Oooh, I didn't expect to feel like this at first but Goda and Kuroki are just too cute. I love it when they call each other "Goda-chan" and "Kurosuke" LOL Those two...
Oooh, I didn't expect to feel like this at first but Goda and Kuroki are just too cute. I love it when they call each other "Goda-chan" and "Kurosuke" LOL Those two...
This drama is seriously EPIC. It reminds me of Ashita no Kita Yoshio so much. (If you guys haven't seen that drama yet, you need to go watch it!) The soundtrack for this drama is amazing, and all the characters are just so interesting. They all have their mysterious backgrounds and you can't help but wish they would just spill it all out, but instead, like Kita Yoshio, they only let out a little bit of the plot each time, so it's this continual cliffhanger something. Keeps going higher and higher towards the climax. Also similar to Kita Yoshio, Kohinata Fumiyo is just adorable. He's wide-eyed expressions makes me lol.
This is getting more and more interesting...
This is getting more and more interesting...
Thankyou very much for letting me know, Chokubi. I can't believe I missed that part I just watched that part again and now I understand. [spoiler]Yeah I figured out from quite early on that Ryoji couldn't be the killer.[/spoiler] ZoddGuts, [spoiler]So your guess is that the guy with the birthmark on his face was the real Sachie's father? The one who was killed? I think that what you're saying might actually be right Hopefully we'll find out soon![/spoiler]chokubi wrote:Episode 2, 31:48 - 32:16.Machihxh wrote:They didn't mention any other details regarding his death so far did they? Hopefully I didn't miss that as well..
Also,
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Possibly, everyone seems to be connected to one another somehow. And their relationship is reveal one by one, that's the beauty of this drama. I just finish watching Ep 4, and boys isn't time fly when I watch this drama or not? Cuz I swear an episode just went by so fast. And I absolutely love those GodaXSachi moment, touching but funny at the same time and the part where Yui hits Kuroki on the head LOL, hilarious (not sure if this is consider spoiler or not).raven_frost wrote:It looks like a case of going round senselessly in circles with someone adamant on pinning the blame on the person who'd make the least logical suspect.
And perhaps Shimano is acquainted with Akimoto, Ryoji's classmate, who appeared for a brief moment at the reunion. Shanghai connection?!?!?!?
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Rollins wrote:This honestly *just* appeared on YouTube right now.
It's got the kanji lyrics as subtitles too.
this is the mp3 that i found for everyone who likes this song..
sayonara wa iwanai mp3
enjoy the download...
Note: mp3 at 192 kps.. sound quality good.. seems like live version.. not too sure wait for u guys to give feedback.. official release date in Japan is 25th Feb 2009.. as a single with instrumental track of the same song included..
Ep. 5 was really good, I can't wait to see 6. [spoiler]Anyone have any ideas as to who killed Shindo? At first I thought it might have been Sachie's mother but I don't think it is her. I wonder if Kuroki's dad; Kuroki Shinzo might have done it as he did go to see Goda's sister and it just so happens that the disposed body was in Goda's sister's car, hmm.... Also, Shindo told Sachi that he was going to be gone from Tokyo but before that he wanted to see someone one more time. Was he referring to seeing Sachie's mother once more? Then when Sachi told the mother of what Shindo told her, she said "yurusenai" so she wouldn't allow it? This suspense and unanswered questions are me. What's everyone else's take on this episode?[/spoiler]
Just finished watching ep5 and YES I'm still stumped and was scared that maybe there was a bomb in the sister's car but thank god there wasn't. Still that was shocking.
I love the suspense and intensity of this drama. I mean I thought it's gonna be another easy to solve murder case, but even at ep 5 I still dont know who did it though I do have speculations about the daddy cop. He maybe got paid or something or maybe he's totally involved in the murder. What I don't get is why was the one murdered a little girl? Did she saw something she shouldn't have seen?
What's more to love about this drama besides the story is the acting and music. Veteran actors are the way to go and the music only intensifies the suspense and mysteriousness overall. Thanks Rollins for picking such a good drama to sub.
Somehow I'm not loving that many Jdramas this season.
I love the suspense and intensity of this drama. I mean I thought it's gonna be another easy to solve murder case, but even at ep 5 I still dont know who did it though I do have speculations about the daddy cop. He maybe got paid or something or maybe he's totally involved in the murder. What I don't get is why was the one murdered a little girl? Did she saw something she shouldn't have seen?
What's more to love about this drama besides the story is the acting and music. Veteran actors are the way to go and the music only intensifies the suspense and mysteriousness overall. Thanks Rollins for picking such a good drama to sub.
Somehow I'm not loving that many Jdramas this season.
yes i agree, at first around ep4 i thought they were dragging it a bit and i got a bit bored, coz it's like getting nowhere near the murderer...then after watching ep5, especially the ending, that was like a comeback of the suspense. Great job there. I'm luvin this drama more and more.
Oh and around the middle part, they played this new song, it's great! I can't wait for the OST.
Oh and around the middle part, they played this new song, it's great! I can't wait for the OST.
FYI, Eguchi Yosuke and Hirosue Ryoko will be the Bistro guests on tomorrow's SMAPxSMAP.
I am loving this drama so far! Fantastic production values and lots of interesting twists, but not to the point of absurdity. And I'm looking forward to the OST, too. The song in Ep 5 sounds like it was sung by the same person who sang "Aesthetic" in Iryu.
I am loving this drama so far! Fantastic production values and lots of interesting twists, but not to the point of absurdity. And I'm looking forward to the OST, too. The song in Ep 5 sounds like it was sung by the same person who sang "Aesthetic" in Iryu.
After watching Ep 6 [spoiler]It looks like Akimoto Ryo might be a person of interest in what happened 25 years ago. Also I think there is definitely something going on between Katsuragi Hitoshi and Kuroki Shinzo. Perhaps all three of them are working together? Also in Ep 6 we learn that Shimano Takaya's younger sister is actually Sachi. We also know that Sachi's "mother" didn't tell Sachi everything as she said to Katsuragi Hitoshi that she didn't tell her things about him. Hmm... I wonder what the mother knows about her husband that she didn't tell Sachi about. Must be something big. In the previews for Ep 7, it looks like someone killed Sachi's brother. It's still a mystery as to who is actually involved in all of this but one thing's for sure, someone who holds great power and authority is probably the mastermind in all of this. [/spoiler]
Machihxh... I was seriously this close to reading your spoilers. I had the spoiler tab opened and everything before going, "WTF AM I DOING!!!" So I closed it. :3
Man. There are so many theories about this drama. I don't even know what to think anymore, gosh, but I gotta say, Yui's appearances in the past couple episodes are so refreshing. Everytime I see Saki Aibu's angst-less relaxed expressions, I feel refreshed, lol. But now that she's dragged into this whole mess too. >____> I'm going to be looking forward to Kohinata Fumiyo's expressions instead, lmao.
Spoilers for episode 5:
I have a feeling Sasaki Kuranosuke will make a comeback appearance soon. Or else his role is too much of a waste. D:
Thanks so much, Rollins, for subbing this drama! <33
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AHHHHHH I WAS RIGHT!!!! (Episode 6 spoilers.)
Man. There are so many theories about this drama. I don't even know what to think anymore, gosh, but I gotta say, Yui's appearances in the past couple episodes are so refreshing. Everytime I see Saki Aibu's angst-less relaxed expressions, I feel refreshed, lol. But now that she's dragged into this whole mess too. >____> I'm going to be looking forward to Kohinata Fumiyo's expressions instead, lmao.
Spoilers for episode 5:
Thanks so much, Rollins, for subbing this drama! <33
EDIT
AHHHHHH I WAS RIGHT!!!! (Episode 6 spoilers.)
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Because that murder is called "the murder 25 years ago" . "Murder" is just to simple and non interesting.. unlike MURDER FROM 25 YEARS AGO.lollercopter wrote:How come the characters always say "the murder 25 years ago"? I'm sure everyone knows what you're referring to if you just say "the murder." Is this some quirk of the Japanese language?
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