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Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 05:06
by bl00_4ng31
wheeeee i love his prodai haircut and im GLAD he's gonna keep it short cuz it just makes him look SO adorable :lol (sorry for the fangirling :])

*sniff sniff* i'm gonna be leaving this thread when the raw for ep 11 comes out until i watch the finale with subs cuz im just so paranoid that SOMEHOW im gonna see spoilers t.t i'm gonna miss everyone here bunches for the next couple days but HAVE MUCH FUN!! :lol

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 06:00
by lunargen
@bl00 - omg i wanna see that!! *<3 black hair pipi heeheehee*

@joeboygo - hmmm, i know edicts can never replace a good jiten :lol but try this one: http://linear.mv.com/cgi-bin/j-e/jis/dict <<== this is the one i usually use. it takes in pretty much everything, hiragana, katakana, kanji and even romaji. it can also take in english words. works great especially for words which are garbled, and especially if youre not that good with kanji. :D

okie im sleeping early tonight so that i'd be here to witness the refresh fest! :lol

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 06:25
by elaeye
How ironic I find this thread (and website) the day the last episode airs. XDDD;;

But I have spent an hour or so reading through all the theories and, I must say, they're all very insightful and interesting. :thumright:

...well, I have to wait a few days in my Australian loneliness so I'll just be reading all the reviews and summaries of it when it airs~

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 06:34
by Graymouse
T-minus 6 hours to go! :alcoholic:

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 06:46
by elaeye
:thumright:

Will anyone bother to post spasms/shock reactions/spoilers as the episode progresses?

I can just see it now:

"OMG!1!1WTF?!"

"NYUU! KEN RUN!"

"WAHAHAHAA!!"

"O__O!!!"

"OMGOMGOMG! TADA WAS RUN OVER BY A TRUCK!" :crazy:

... :mrgreen:

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 08:40
by Graymouse
muhahahahahahahahaha 3 hours in counting

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 09:39
by azzurri
I think this must be liveliest thread on d-addicts! I'm enjoying reading all your thoughts and insights, and I must say, they are more in depth and intense than even the HYD returns thread. Of course also everyone already knew what to expect for HYD, it was just HOW the scriptwriter was going to play it. With ProDai anyone's guess is as good as mine, so that just adds to the whole mystique of the story.

I really don't know what to predict because jdoramas don't always end the way we want them to, unlike kdramas in general.

But I have to agree with the general consensus, that anything short of a happy ending for Kenzou and Rei would make the whole drama totally MEANINGLESS, and I have great confidence that the director and scriptwriter would not be so CRUEL or so TASTELESS in their choice of endings. They have showed enough class and style so far, so it would be totally out of character if they made it a Tada-Rei ending after all.

Having said all that, its still a jdorama, so anything is possible.... :sweat: :

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 09:48
by elaeye
Definitely! x3 <3

Waah, when does it air in Japan? Is it like...now? :blink

I should go and read the HanaDan thread now~ XD <3

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 11:12
by Graymouse
Graymouse wrote:T-minus 6 hours to go! :alcoholic:
45 mins and counting!

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 11:19
by myunoyume
less than one hour to get the answer.... yes or no Rei and Ken will be together...

Please people in Japan.... feed us with spoilers asap.... :w00t: or my day will get very long.... :cry:

Thanks in advance.... :wub:

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 11:20
by ah_blub
graymouse-san,

be sure to be our live reporter! :mrgreen:

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 11:36
by elaeye
Seconded!

Yoroshiku onegaishimasu!

:thumright:

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 11:48
by Graymouse
LOL!

HEY! HEY! HEY! is on right now. Downtown. 10 mins to go

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 11:50
by hadmish
10 mins to go....ooohhhh cant wait!

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 11:54
by elaeye
Waaah, the suspense! :w00t:

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 11:56
by Graymouse
lunargen....doko desu ka? 3 mins....... :w00t:

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 11:56
by myunoyume
elaeye wrote:Waaah, the suspense! :w00t:
So exciting to feel the tension all over the world through your posts......


KITTA !

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 11:59
by Hanazawa Rui
1 min to go

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:00
by cykeichan
And we're off! Go Kenzou!

kev

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:00
by Graymouse
:D Its on! Previews of the last episodes......

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:01
by elaeye
Go Ken! AUSTRALIA LOVES YOU! XDDD

*lawl, I sound like a cheerleader*

Have fun watching peeps! :D

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:02
by Hanazawa Rui
cykeichan wrote:And we're off! Go Kenzou!

kev
Graymouse wrote::D Its on! Previews of the last episodes......
cant wait to see it on saturday :-(

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:03
by Love Angel
I wish that I was In Japan setting in front of the TV and watching Proposal Daisakusen now XD

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:03
by elaeye
Slightly off topic but religiously (spiritually?) I'm watching Dragon Zakura with both Pi and Masami.

:thumleft:

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:04
by Graymouse
Rei, and Ken are walking down the hallways of their old elm school. Rei is smiling! They go back into the class room where they first met. They found the books they read as kids. They are looking at the Kanji on the wall. Ha! Ken opens up the closet and a broom hits him in the head. Rei sits down in her old desk as does Ken.

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:05
by elaeye
Love Angel wrote:I wish that I was In Japan setting in front of the TV and watching Proposal Daisakusen now XD
Haha, same!

@Graymouse: ;O Why is she smiling though? D:

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:06
by Graymouse
Flash back again with the eraser. Happy memories between them. They sit there remembering and not talking.

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:07
by elaeye
@Graymouse:
Waaah!! I hope Rei doesn't think he's just doing as a "best friend" thing!

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:07
by cykeichan
OK, take bets...will he say something now after the CM break, or let it go yet again and just head back to the party? :roll
kev

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:09
by elaeye
cykeichan wrote:
OK, take bets...will he say something now after the CM break, or let it go yet again and just head back to the party? :roll
kev
He'll definitely confess his true feelings. XDDD;; How evil

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:09
by Graymouse
back at the party, Mikio is stealing food and eating it and tsuru noticed here comes Tada who wants to take a picture and asking where Ken and Rei are. Mikio almost chokes when Tada asks

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:09
by Hanazawa Rui
Graymouse wrote:
Rei, and Ken are walking down the hallways of their old elm school. Rei is smiling! They go back into the class room where they first met. They found the books they read as kids. They are looking at the Kanji on the wall. Ha! Ken opens up the closet and a broom hits him in the head. Rei sits down in her old desk as does Ken.

stop it ........LOL........go see it and dont spoil it 4 us


elaeye wrote:
Love Angel wrote:I wish that I was In Japan setting in front of the TV and watching Proposal Daisakusen now XD
Haha, same!

@Graymouse: ;O Why is she smiling though? D:


ya me tooooooo :hissy: :hissy: :sorry: :sorry: :hissy: :hissy:

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:13
by Graymouse
Rei gets on the pull up bar and does what she couldn't do back when they were small. Ken does the same thing. Rei remembers the day that she fell off and talks about it. Ken silent as always. He gets caught up in his thoughts. Rei walks off and wants to go back to the party. Ken, is telling Rei about what happened on that day. Tada is starting to get worried about Rei......He knows that she is with Ken.
comerical break

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:14
by cykeichan
Nice one Ken! Best question you've asked over the course of this entire drama!
kev

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:19
by elaeye
Graymouse wrote:
Rei gets on the pull up bar and does what she couldn't do back when they were small. Ken does the same thing. Rei remembers the day that she fell off and talks about it. Ken silent as always. He gets caught up in his thoughts. Rei walks off and wants to go back to the party. Ken, is telling Rei about what happened on that day. Tada is starting to get worried about Rei......He knows that she is with Ken.

back at the party, Mikio is stealing food and eating it and tsuru noticed here comes Tada who wants to take a picture and asking where Ken and Rei are. Mikio almost chokes when Tada asks
comerical break
OOH! The fiancee's getting suspicious now? Tsk tsk Tada-sensei! And that explains how Ken prolonged the stay...but how is he going to get back? ;O *unless Tada takes a picture when they get back...*
...xDDD

@Hanazawa Rui: If you don't want to be spoiled, don't click the buttons. It's why they're there.

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:20
by Graymouse
Ken Ken Ken.....she needs to say KENZO!

Ken gets on top of the bar just like he did back when they were kids. Rei laughs. Eri finds the RING! Something is written on it! Her eyes got huge! Its night time and Ken an Rei walk back to the party. Ken stops....
commerical break

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:21
by cykeichan
Yeah, I don't think Tada would take a picture without Rei being there. Even if they did miss it and not take one at the party, I think Ken would warp back whenever another picture is taken, so he's not allowed to stay in the past indefinitely.
kev

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:23
by elaeye
Graymouse wrote:Ken Ken Ken.....she needs to say KENZO!

Ken gets on top of the bar just like he did back when they were kids. Rei laughs. Eri finds the RING! Something is written on it! Her eyes got huge! Its night time and Ken an Rei walk back to the party. Ken stops....
commerical break
AH! There was something engraved there! I think Tada-sensei will charge out with a camera (xD) and I bet Eri will stop the next "chance" to go back to the present!
Thank you so much so far Graymouse-san and cykeichan! :thumright:

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:26
by Graymouse
Ken and Rei are back, Eri is looking for Rei. Eri found Rei. but she was talking to Tada. Tada called away. Eri ask Rei to step outside. Eri gives Rei the Ring. She reads what is on the ring.

Ken picks up the camera that mikio left on the counter and is taking a picture of himself! WTF! Rei is having second thoughts! Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:27
by Graymouse
noooooooooooooooooooooo! He is back after the wedding ceremony. Back when they were sitting by the fountain! Right before he made is speech! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! WTF

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:28
by kilaalaa
WTF THAT STUPID DUNZO!

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:29
by Graymouse
He is talking to the fairy.

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:30
by elaeye
Graymouse wrote:
Ken and Rei are back, Eri is looking for Rei. Eri found Rei. but she was talking to Tada. Tada called away. Eri ask Rei to step outside. Eri gives Rei the Ring. She reads what is on the ring.

Ken picks up the camera that mikio left on the counter and is taking a picture of himself! WTF! Rei is having second thoughts! Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!
AAARRRRGHHHH!!! :crazy:

BUT IT'S CHANGED! THE TIME WHERE HE REAPPEARED! IT'S CHANGED! HAS IT? O__O

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:32
by elaeye
What was engraved on the ring?! O__O Did Eri read it out?! It couldn't have been a message because you really can't do that to a ring! WAAAAHHH!!

And is he telling the fairy he wants to give up and is the fairy giving him another lecture?
:cry:

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:32
by azzurri
My God...I can't keep my hand from clicking those SHOW buttons!!

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:35
by elaeye
azzurri wrote:My God...I can't keep my hand from clicking those SHOW buttons!!
If you don't want to get spoiled...BACK AWAY SLOWLY NOW!

*blows on whistle*

Since it's on right now can't hold the suspense.

WATCH SOME DRAGON ZAKURA TO CALM NOW! XD

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:40
by elaeye
*crickets chirping*

Must be very intense :cry:

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:41
by Graymouse
...............................
Well, Ken is giving his speech again and he went all noble with no class. Rei is crying her eyes out! Ken is crying his eyes out! Eri is crying her eyes out! Mikio, and Tsuru are speechless. Tsuru claps...everyone follows suit.

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:43
by hadmish
HORRRRRRRRRRRRIBLE so far
frustrated

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:44
by Graymouse
Ken walks out! Rei is left standing there with Tada. Very uneasy atmosphere. Ken goes back into the church where Rei and Tada got married...
commerical break......no...this can not be happening! I just wish I could understand more of what he said. This is .........

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:46
by Graymouse
back at the reception. They are watching the slide show. Ken is sitting on the first pue crying his eyes out! The slide show is the same.....so far. Overtune, with Rei talking.....

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:46
by ah_blub
Nooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

=(

oh dear, this is bad. how to have a happy ending like that??.. :(

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:46
by elaeye
ARGH! Wouldn't that mean it would be over?

Because he returned the same place!! :crazy:

Waaah!! Ken probably did a good job with his speech this time (since he couldn't in the first episode)!
So ironic I'm listening to Masami and Pi's voices from Dragon Zakura. XDDD I half expect her to start calling him 'Ken-zou'

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:48
by elaeye
Graymouse wrote:
back at the reception. They are watching the slide show. Ken is sitting on the first pue crying his eyes out! The slide show is the same.....so far. Overtune, with Rei talking.....
So are the pictures still of Rei frowning or smiling?
:cry:

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:49
by cykeichan
Rei is talking smack about herself while watching the slide show. "I was the one who never took any action. I was the one who didn't believe in Ken. I was the one who gave up too easily," etc.
kev

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:49
by azzurri
OH MY GOD!!

What's going on?! I don't believe it! :pale:

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:52
by elaeye
cykeichan wrote:
Rei is talking smack about herself while watching the slide show. "I was the one who never took any action. I was the one who didn't believe in Ken. I was the one who gave up too easily," etc.
kev
OMG! IS SHE SAYING THAT ALOUD?! :crazy:
Let me try and recap
1. Ken and Rei go to kindergarten place and they talk about the entire eraser/monkey bar thing. They go back to the party
2. Eri finds the ring and tells Rei. Ken takes a photo of himself
3. Ken's back in the wedding BEFORE HIS SPEECH and tells the fairy he's given up
4. Ken gives a proper speech which moves everyone to tears
5. The slide show starts up again (with smiling or frowning Rei?!)
6. Rei is now thinking and regretting to herself she never believed in Ken-zou
:pale:

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:55
by cykeichan
Oh BTW, the writers have fooled us all along. They're not actually married yet. This scene has just been a pre-showing thing before the actual wedding that will take place later in the day. Japanese weddings are weird. :roll

He still has a chance!!

And now Tada has let her go to talk to Ken. He played a game of chance with her and he lost.

Wait!!! Tada is the nicest guy in the world!! He lost on purpose!!!
kev

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:59
by elaeye
cykeichan wrote:
Oh BTW, the writers have fooled us all along. They're not actually married yet. This scene has just been a pre-showing thing before the actual wedding that will take place later in the day. Japanese weddings are weird. :roll

He still has a chance!!

And now Tada has let her go to talk to Ken. He played a game of chance with her and he lost.

Wait!!! Tada is the nicest guy in the world!! He lost on purpose!!!
kev
So what was all that with the ceremony...?

SO EVIL! :cussing: *but I love them anyway 'cos now Ken has a chance*

Waah! So he knew all along...? I think he knew he was going to lose Rei... :cry: I kind of feel sorry for Tada now...
I'm going to recap events to stay on track and for people who want to be spoiled to be spoiled. XDD;; *SO DON'T LOOK IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED!*
Recap of Events wrote:
THE ENTIRE SCENE WITH THE SCREENCAPS TAKES PLACE before Rei and Tada are married!

1. Ken and Rei go to kindergarten place and they talk about the entire eraser/monkey bar thing. They go back to the party
2. Eri finds the ring and tells Rei about whatever is written on the ring. Ken takes a photo of himself
3. Ken's back in the wedding BEFORE HIS SPEECH and tells the fairy he's given up
4. Ken gives a proper speech which moves everyone to tears
5. The slide show starts up again (with smiling or frowning Rei?!)
6. Rei is now thinking and regretting to herself she never believed in Ken-zou
7. Tada gives Rei a chance to go talk to Ken.

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:59
by cykeichan
THE RING!!! FLASHBACK SCENE!!!

REI X KENZO
kev

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 12:59
by Graymouse
Rei is remembering while she is watching the slideshow. She is telling the story from her point of view on the changes that Ken made to the photos changed her heart. Ken gets up and walks outof the church. The slide show ends. Rei is crying. Tada is asking whats wrong. The reception is over. Tada and Rei walk to the next room. Tada complains that Rei face is exactly like it was on her 20th birthday. Tada pulls out a coin and says "lets make a bet" Ok, the bet was this. Tada held two hands up and played the which hand has the cuffling in it. If Rei picks the one hand with the cuffling in it she goes and solve the problem that she couldn't solve. Sure enough she picks the one hand. Rei runs off trying to find Ken but little did she now that Tada put cuffs in both hands. Rei runs off and Ken was getting in the cab and drove off. Never seeing her. Rei yells Kenzo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The ring inscreption says Rei X Kenzo! OMG! The fairy! Rei...sees the fairy!
WTF!

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 13:01
by elaeye
OH LAWD!
I have utter new respect for Tada-sensei! Though I did, slightly, expect him to bow down. WAAAHH! WILL THE FAIRY GIVE REI A HALLEJUAH CHANCE?!

And has she screamed KEN-ZOU yet?!
:blink

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 13:03
by hadmish
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
there is no way it ends like that.........................

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 13:03
by Graymouse
wtf wtf wtf wtf wtf wtf wtf wtf wtf wtf wtf wtf wtf wtf wtf wtf

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 13:03
by Graymouse
Credits........nothing.....credits!

wait..
....the cab is having a problem.....he is pushing the cab. He hears Rei, voice...Kenzo......he looks up and....it ends.....

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 13:04
by qsk
more to come after song?

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 13:05
by elaeye
THE ENTIRE SCENE WITH THE SCREENCAPS TAKES PLACE before Rei and Tada are married!

1. Ken and Rei go to kindergarten place and they talk about the entire eraser/monkey bar thing. They go back to the party
2. Eri finds the ring and tells Rei about whatever is written on the ring. Ken takes a photo of himself
3. Ken's back in the wedding BEFORE HIS SPEECH and tells the fairy he's given up
4. Ken gives a proper speech which moves everyone to tears
5. The slide show starts up again (with smiling or frowning Rei?!)
6. Rei is now thinking and regretting to herself she never believed in Ken-zou
7. Tada gives Rei a chance to go talk to Ken.
8. Ken's about to get into the taxi & Rei sees the fairy


*dying* Did something unexpected happen? :cry:

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 13:05
by elaeye
WTF?! :pale:

Maybe there's more after the credits...?

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 13:06
by hadmish
OMG WTF WTF WTF WTF
Im not sure I like this drama at all
im shocked.

I need a cold car to cool of the anger
OMG

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 13:06
by Graymouse
Credits........nothing.....credits!

wait..
....the cab is having a problem.....he is pushing the cab. He hears Rei, voice...Kenzo......he looks up and....it ends.....

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 13:06
by qsk
oh no !! why end like this !!??

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 13:07
by cykeichan
So far it's a pretty bimyou ending. Sure, she'll get him and all that, running out of the wedding and stuff, but I wanted to see some true hugging/kissing/confessing, etc.

Ah! This is what I was hoping for. A final scene. :D

Hahaha, that was still pretty bimyou, but oh well. I had thought from about 9:30 p.m. on that this drama had about an 80% chance of having a crap ending, and while it was worse than utter crap, it was still a little bit "eh". :roll Maybe it's the romantic part of me that wanted a little bit more rabu-rabu, but oh well.

Good on ya, Kenzo, even if we didn't get to see it! :cheers:
kev

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 13:07
by hadmish
Rei called out kenzo and he looked to that direction and smiled.
that was **** it!

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 13:08
by elaeye
How does this make sense?! Like...no confession at all?! No resolution? *dies*
Is it time for the drama to end (eg. has it been the full length of one episode)?

Posted: Jun 25th, '07, 13:08
by qsk
oh no i hope script writer has plan a movie to end it beautifully.