[Discussion] Hana Yori Dango Season 2

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Post by fishy » Jan 29th, '07, 07:09

sp4078 wrote:Something really bothering me ever since I watched Hana Yori Dango.
That's is Makino's parents. WHo ON EARTH would depend on their high-school daughter like THAT ?

She has to work part-time after school. And get another part-time job, and collapse from exhaustion, and right the moment she was discharged from the hospital she has to pay for the hospital fee, then her parents ran away to some countryside without a word, leave their 2 underage kids have no place to stay. I know this is just a fiction but really unrealistic to me.
Don’t bother about it so much :cheers:
It’s comic adaptation anyway. It’s just vice versa from our real life and it just out of box imagination. Maybe it does happen in real life, right?

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Post by HQLover » Jan 29th, '07, 07:16

i want to see more..it's getting good...

i really like Rui and Makino together..but i know that's impossible..

poor Rui

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Post by baby_bytes » Jan 29th, '07, 08:23

fishy wrote:
sp4078 wrote:Something really bothering me ever since I watched Hana Yori Dango.
That's is Makino's parents. WHo ON EARTH would depend on their high-school daughter like THAT ?

She has to work part-time after school. And get another part-time job, and collapse from exhaustion, and right the moment she was discharged from the hospital she has to pay for the hospital fee, then her parents ran away to some countryside without a word, leave their 2 underage kids have no place to stay. I know this is just a fiction but really unrealistic to me.
Don’t bother about it so much :cheers:
It’s comic adaptation anyway. It’s just vice versa from our real life and it just out of box imagination. Maybe it does happen in real life, right?
Well there was this one case, where a Japanese woman had left her children all underage, and most in elementary school, I believe, to look after themselves. The story caused so much attention in Japan, that it was turned into a movie, and I just watched it on my satellite, but I forgot the name. :scratch:

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Post by lee`s little alien » Jan 29th, '07, 12:22

lol,here`s one baka question :mrgreen: i was thinking about ep4 today and i realised that something is not clear :lol
How did tsukasa know that makino moved into that bloc?
ps:does anyone know a place where i can find captures from this ep or from the ep3?i took my day off from studying today and i wanna make some new avas! :mrgreen: thanx in advance!
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Post by roswell990 » Jan 29th, '07, 12:43

YamapisWifey wrote:let's face it, it's hard for makino and tsukasa to be together. like a forbidden love, it just won't work out. they need to realize this as much as i want them to be together. at least makino can have rui, and tsukasa can have monkey woman.

haruhi-san
you really think she is hot?? now that i think about it, she kinda resembles a monkey her face..and it's not HOT at all!!
i think we hate her b/c she stands in the way between Tsukasa and Tsukushi , but if u really thought about her position and her life , u'll feel sorry about her as much as u feel for Tsukasa ... but i like b/c she is now the comedy source 4 the show ... but yet i hate her when she just does things on her own and barge into people's house !!
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Post by roswell990 » Jan 29th, '07, 12:45

lee`s little alien wrote:
ps:does anyone know a place where i can find captures from this ep or from the ep3?i took my day off from studying today and i wanna make some new avas! :mrgreen: thanx in advance!
i'll be happy to make screencaps , f u just give me like 30 - 45 min ...
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Post by lee`s little alien » Jan 29th, '07, 12:56

roswell990 wrote:
lee`s little alien wrote:
ps:does anyone know a place where i can find captures from this ep or from the ep3?i took my day off from studying today and i wanna make some new avas! :mrgreen: thanx in advance!
i'll be happy to make screencaps , f u just give me like 30 - 45 min ...
thank u thank u thank u thank u!i owe u!!!!!!!*waits for the caps*thanx again hun!!!! :wub:
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Post by baby_bytes » Jan 29th, '07, 13:12

roswell990 wrote:
lee`s little alien wrote:
ps:does anyone know a place where i can find captures from this ep or from the ep3?i took my day off from studying today and i wanna make some new avas! :mrgreen: thanx in advance!
i'll be happy to make screencaps , f u just give me like 30 - 45 min ...
Roswell, I was just wondering where did you get that pick of MatsuJun and Mao? the one that is on your sig. :whistling:

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Post by mcg » Jan 29th, '07, 13:25

Well about Rui/Shizuka/Makino...
In the manga he DOES fall in love with Makino, but he's completly through with Shizuka some chapters before we know about that. In the anime, he goes with Shizuka and disappears, he doesn't appear in the last episodes.

But now, I'm think he's getting OBSESSED with Makino, he's liking her cos she looks up to Shizuka, but he has also fall in love cos all the times they've spent together, he really loves Makino the way she is, but I also think he knows she will never love him the way she loves Domyouji. Maybe he's afraid to be alone, that's why he's rushing in the situation, while Domyouji stays away, but this RUI is starting to be completly different from the Manga's one.

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Post by vina.loves.sushi » Jan 29th, '07, 14:29

mcg wrote:Well about Rui/Shizuka/Makino...
In the manga he DOES fall in love with Makino, but he's completly through with Shizuka some chapters before we know about that. In the anime, he goes with Shizuka and disappears, he doesn't appear in the last episodes.

But now, I'm think he's getting OBSESSED with Makino, he's liking her cos she looks up to Shizuka, but he has also fall in love cos all the times they've spent together, he really loves Makino the way she is, but I also think he knows she will never love him the way she loves Domyouji. Maybe he's afraid to be alone, that's why he's rushing in the situation, while Domyouji stays away, but this RUI is starting to be completly different from the Manga's one.
well, i just love rui in both the manga and jdorama...even though rui's character in the jdorama is starting to be different from the manga i still love it cause it's getting so interesting! :D oh the drama! :P can't wait for the next episode! :lol
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Post by roswell990 » Jan 29th, '07, 14:41

lee`s little alien wrote: ps:does anyone know a place where i can find captures from this ep or from the ep3?i took my day off from studying today and i wanna make some new avas! :mrgreen: thanx in advance!
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Post by lee`s little alien » Jan 29th, '07, 14:43

omG!THANK YOU SO MUCH HUN!*hugs*maaaaaan i have"material"for hundreds of avas now!thanx again for taking time from ur free time to to them! :cheers:

ps:check out ur private messages!(i hope u received what i sent u) :P
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Post by roswell990 » Jan 29th, '07, 14:50

baby_bytes wrote:
Roswell, I was just wondering where did you get that pick of MatsuJun and Mao? the one that is on your sig. :whistling:
am ... i think i found it on google .. :scratch:

if u u want the original picture ..

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Post by roswell990 » Jan 29th, '07, 14:57

lee`s little alien wrote:omG!THANK YOU SO MUCH HUN!*hugs*maaaaaan i have"material"for hundreds of avas now!thanx again for taking time from ur free time to to them! :cheers:

ps:check out ur private messages!(i hope u received what i sent u) :P
no problem dear .. :thumright:

i'll check it right now .. :D
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Post by auroragb » Jan 29th, '07, 15:15

YamapisWifey wrote:no it's not the first time she comes barging into peoples home surprising them. she has a bad habit of doing that. that monkey did it several times in the earlier episodes like how she makes herself at home in other ppl's home. and again in this episode twice in makinos new apartment! trivial but if she wouldn't do that, she wouldn't have seen tsukasa on top of makino! she really gets on my nerves that monkey
She has good timing :)
japysia wrote:Last week drama rating(kantou):
1-Karei naru Ichizoku ~ 23.5%
2-Hana Yori Dango 2 ~ 23.1% :O
3-Fuurin Kazan ~ 21.9%
great ratings!!
sp4078 wrote:Something really bothering me ever since I watched Hana Yori Dango.
That's is Makino's parents. WHo ON EARTH would depend on their high-school daughter like THAT ?

She has to work part-time after school. And get another part-time job, and collapse from exhaustion, and right the moment she was discharged from the hospital she has to pay for the hospital fee, then her parents ran away to some countryside without a word, leave their 2 underage kids have no place to stay. I know this is just a fiction but really unrealistic to me.
Have you ever watched Teru Teru Ashita? :)
lee`s little alien wrote:lol,here`s one baka question :mrgreen: i was thinking about ep4 today and i realised that something is not clear :lol
How did tsukasa know that makino moved into that bloc?
I'm guessing it's one of those drama conveniences. probably it's assumed that $$$$$ works magic.

One thing occurred to me:
did the tea ceremony girl introduce the unsellable dump to Makino because she knew Makino dated Doumyouji? Banking on the off chance that the property can be unloaded to the love-crazed Tsukasa?
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Post by cacharel* » Jan 29th, '07, 15:22

HQLover wrote:i want to see more..it's getting good...

i really like Rui and Makino together..but i know that's impossible..

poor Rui
lol i'm also rooting for the two of them ... :roll :roll
yeaahh..poor rui :cry:
but thats okay, as long as it is domyouji :mrgreen:

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Post by prettyboykasper » Jan 29th, '07, 15:39

Hey, I've been looking for HYD wallpaper everywhere for my laptop, does anyone know where i can find them?! Or make me one....lol Thanks

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Post by marie_23 » Jan 29th, '07, 16:00

prettyboykasper wrote:Hey, I've been looking for HYD wallpaper everywhere for my laptop, does anyone know where i can find them?! Or make me one....lol Thanks
You could use google image to find HYD wallpaper. That is where I got all my wallpaper from it's mostly pictures from the tv drama even some pics from the manga. I made my wallpaper from the pictures it's easy :-)

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Post by baby_bytes » Jan 29th, '07, 16:05

roswell990 wrote:
baby_bytes wrote:
Roswell, I was just wondering where did you get that pick of MatsuJun and Mao? the one that is on your sig. :whistling:
am ... i think i found it on google .. :scratch:

if u u want the original picture ..

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Ahhh thanks a bunch! :cheers:

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Post by marie_23 » Jan 29th, '07, 16:12

vina.loves.sushi wrote:
mcg wrote:Well about Rui/Shizuka/Makino...
In the manga he DOES fall in love with Makino, but he's completly through with Shizuka some chapters before we know about that. In the anime, he goes with Shizuka and disappears, he doesn't appear in the last episodes.

But now, I'm think he's getting OBSESSED with Makino, he's liking her cos she looks up to Shizuka, but he has also fall in love cos all the times they've spent together, he really loves Makino the way she is, but I also think he knows she will never love him the way she loves Domyouji. Maybe he's afraid to be alone, that's why he's rushing in the situation, while Domyouji stays away, but this RUI is starting to be completly different from the Manga's one.
well, i just love rui in both the manga and jdorama...even though rui's character in the jdorama is starting to be different from the manga i still love it cause it's getting so interesting! :D oh the drama! :P can't wait for the next episode! :lol
Your right about Rui being totally different from the manga
I so agree it's going to get very interesting with this new turn Rui has taken in the drama. Before he seem to me to be not playing a good version of Rui. Since in the manga Rui is a very laid back kind of guy and didn't get between Makino & Doumyouji so much as this Rui in the drama does.
I wonder if Rui will put pressure on Makino to be his girlfriend for some reason I think Rui might cause problems for Makino
Remember Shizuka warning to Rui not to make Makino cry

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Post by HQLover » Jan 29th, '07, 16:53

roswell990 wrote:
YamapisWifey wrote:let's face it, it's hard for makino and tsukasa to be together. like a forbidden love, it just won't work out. they need to realize this as much as i want them to be together. at least makino can have rui, and tsukasa can have monkey woman.

haruhi-san
you really think she is hot?? now that i think about it, she kinda resembles a monkey her face..and it's not HOT at all!!
i think we hate her b/c she stands in the way between Tsukasa and Tsukushi , but if u really thought about her position and her life , u'll feel sorry about her as much as u feel for Tsukasa ... but i like b/c she is now the comedy source 4 the show ... but yet i hate her when she just does things on her own and barge into people's house !!
Haruhi-San doesn't really bother me for right now...she's just goofy. Overall, I kinda feel sorry for her too....I have a bad feeling that she might turn really mean later on though..

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Post by HQLover » Jan 29th, '07, 17:00

marie_23 wrote:
vina.loves.sushi wrote:
mcg wrote:Well about Rui/Shizuka/Makino...
In the manga he DOES fall in love with Makino, but he's completly through with Shizuka some chapters before we know about that. In the anime, he goes with Shizuka and disappears, he doesn't appear in the last episodes.

But now, I'm think he's getting OBSESSED with Makino, he's liking her cos she looks up to Shizuka, but he has also fall in love cos all the times they've spent together, he really loves Makino the way she is, but I also think he knows she will never love him the way she loves Domyouji. Maybe he's afraid to be alone, that's why he's rushing in the situation, while Domyouji stays away, but this RUI is starting to be completly different from the Manga's one.
well, i just love rui in both the manga and jdorama...even though rui's character in the jdorama is starting to be different from the manga i still love it cause it's getting so interesting! :D oh the drama! :P can't wait for the next episode! :lol
Your right about Rui being totally different from the manga
I so agree it's going to get very interesting with this new turn Rui has taken in the drama. Before he seem to me to be not playing a good version of Rui. Since in the manga Rui is a very laid back kind of guy and didn't get between Makino & Doumyouji so much as this Rui in the drama does.
I wonder if Rui will put pressure on Makino to be his girlfriend for some reason I think Rui might cause problems for Makino
Remember Shizuka warning to Rui not to make Makino cry

This might sounds stupid, but what's a MANGA? where can I watch this?

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Post by roswell990 » Jan 29th, '07, 17:04

HQLover wrote:Haruhi-San doesn't really bother me for right now...she's just goofy. Overall, I kinda feel sorry for her too....I have a bad feeling that she might turn really mean later on though..
well, if the story continue the same as manga ..

this is what will happen ..
shigeru and makino will be really good friends , and shigeru will accept the fact that Tsukasa is in love with makino ..
but , we don't know what the script writer and th producers are up to ... they might change that .. :-(
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Post by lee`s little alien » Jan 29th, '07, 17:07

roswell990 wrote:
HQLover wrote:Haruhi-San doesn't really bother me for right now...she's just goofy. Overall, I kinda feel sorry for her too....I have a bad feeling that she might turn really mean later on though..
well, if the story continue the same as manga ..

this is what will happen ..
shigeru and makino will be really good friends , and shigeru will accept the fact that Tsukasa is in love with makino ..
but , we don't know what the script writer and th producers are up to ... they might change that .. :-(
well i was thinking exactly the same even without readind the manga!as shigeru really doesn`t look like a person that would harm the others on purpose! :P
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Post by animefreak » Jan 29th, '07, 17:28

ok, so does rui love makino, or dose he love the shizuka in makino, since he cant have shizuka? -__-; i mean, i love rui, but i feel sorry for makino if that's the case
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Post by rurounimon » Jan 29th, '07, 18:20

About Rui and Makino...
In the manga (comic), Rui does care for Tsukushi a lot and also kisses her, admits he likes her, blah blah. But in the end, because Tsukasa is his close friend and that Tskushi likes Tsukasa, he knows not to pursue her. He told Tsukushi that as long as she smiles, he's happy. So I'm guessing with the drama, although Rui is showing his feelings, a part of the reason is to make Tsukuasa come forward and admit his feelings. He knows that Tsukushi is hurting quite a bit since Tsukasa's been holding back, so this is one way to get the two together!!

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Post by lsqB » Jan 29th, '07, 18:50

since so many people hate shigeru even though I think she's not a bad chara
let's hope they don't bring in
umi
. or else you guys will explode in anger :)

you have to go as far as she did to get on my nerves.

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Post by Eternal Snow » Jan 29th, '07, 18:52

who is
umi
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Post by kiki » Jan 29th, '07, 19:00

umi is that hypocrite girl who tag along with dom when he lose his memory, she profess to love him, blah blah, but thank goodness he never like her, he only spent time with because he thought she know about him, yep, i dislike that character the most, tried to be innocent but just argg. HYD 2 seem to make me so frusrate this season.

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Post by Eternal Snow » Jan 29th, '07, 19:02

kiki wrote:
umi is that hypocrite girl who tag along with dom when he lose his memory, she profess to love him, blah blah, but thank goodness he never like her, he only spent time with because he thought she know about him, yep, i dislike that character the most, tried to be innocent but just argg. HYD 2 seem to make me so frusrate this season.
ah i see.. like in MG 2 right??.. well i don`t think she`ll be in HYD 2 .. i mean Shigure is enough! .. hehee..

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Post by non-angelical » Jan 29th, '07, 19:09

Eternal Snow wrote:who is
umi
?? :scratch:
she is
a character in the manga. there's an arc where doumyouji is hospitalized and met this umi character. Off course she was attracted to doumyouji, and her character is much more tricky than shigeru.

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Post by JuliaLane » Jan 29th, '07, 19:21

cacharel* wrote:
HQLover wrote:i want to see more..it's getting good...

i really like Rui and Makino together..but i know that's impossible..

poor Rui
lol i'm also rooting for the two of them ... :roll :roll
yeaahh..poor rui :cry:
but thats okay, as long as it is domyouji :mrgreen:
I agree! If I could change the world it would be to put Rui with Makino! (Actually, if I had that power I'd put Rui with ME! :wub: )

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Post by Eternal Snow » Jan 29th, '07, 19:24

non-angelical wrote:
Eternal Snow wrote:who is
umi
?? :scratch:
she is
a character in the manga. there's an arc where doumyouji is hospitalized and met this umi character. Off course she was attracted to doumyouji, and her character is much more tricky than shigeru.
i see.. thanks :D
so it`s not like MG2.. hmm.. i didn`t know that cuz i haven`t read the manga yet.. but i have seen the anime & she`s not in the story..

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Post by sheep11 » Jan 29th, '07, 19:33

i just finished watching all 4 eps, and they were great! i was worried that the sequal will suck, just like the chinese version, but it was just as good as HYD 1! yay i'm so happy! and i think rui likes makino only because she somehow reminds him of shizuka. i guss we'll see how it works out :)
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Post by auroragb » Jan 29th, '07, 19:54

OT, I just watched Lament of the Lamb. It had Oguri Shun (Rui) and Kato Natsuki (Shigeru). It was a strange film.

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Post by cherryflavored_Keita » Jan 29th, '07, 20:18

The Umi plot was just about the worst part of the HYD manga, and it was the only part I didn't like. I actually skipped the whole storyline! It's not just that the character Umi is bad, the whole memory-loss plot was way too soap-opera-ish. It was flat out boring. It's a shame that MG2 decided to base their whole season on that one crappy story.
Let's hope they learn from the mistakes of their Taiwanese friends. Don't do that plot!! So far, the series is going so well. That plot would ruin just about everything.
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Post by wnndy » Jan 29th, '07, 20:21

yesterday i just started watching hana yori dango and now i'm waiting for subs for episode 4 of hyd 2

oomgg i'm crazy...
i looove the drama

i soo hope that tsukishi (is that her name?) and tsukasa can be together at the end..they are perfect for each other

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Post by chack » Jan 29th, '07, 23:49

lsqB wrote: omg you guys are so harsh!

In the episode preview, you can see she does NOT tell Kaede. Even when Kaede, I'm guessing, invites her to eat dinner and asks how she and Doumyouji's going, Shigeru replied "everything's going fine".
I have a feeling she might be overtaking amon's role... by pretending she's the one dating Doumyouji in front of his mom, so his mom would leave him alone, and meanwhile Shigeru will step back and watch Makino and Doumyouji getting close again.
And she is not stupid. She knows Doumyouji will never look at her, but she pretends she doesn't realize that truth, because she doesn't want to lose her dignity.
She knows he wasn't having fun on the date, and she wasn't having fun either, but...what can they do? Their parents expect them to be getting along just fine. If Doumyouji wasn't going to play his part, then she has to play both parts so their parents won't interfere.
It's the curse of being born into powerful families.
Wha..?
Me, harsh!
No, I was trying to defend Shigeru.
And I sucked at it. Lol.

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Post by chack » Jan 29th, '07, 23:58

JuliaLane wrote:
cacharel* wrote:
HQLover wrote:i want to see more..it's getting good...

i really like Rui and Makino together..but i know that's impossible..

poor Rui
lol i'm also rooting for the two of them ... :roll :roll
yeaahh..poor rui :cry:
but thats okay, as long as it is domyouji :mrgreen:
I agree! If I could change the world it would be to put Rui with Makino! (Actually, if I had that power I'd put Rui with ME! :wub: )
Lol................

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Post by kitty!_xsweet » Jan 30th, '07, 00:20

chack wrote:
JuliaLane wrote:
cacharel* wrote:
lol i'm also rooting for the two of them ... :roll :roll
yeaahh..poor rui :cry:
but thats okay, as long as it is domyouji :mrgreen:
I agree! If I could change the world it would be to put Rui with Makino! (Actually, if I had that power I'd put Rui with ME! :wub: )
Lol................
ehh.... but if Rui doesn't get together with Makino then we have a better chance with him, don't we?! I CALL RUI. He's mine!!!! :wub: :mrgreen:

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Post by BBoPPy » Jan 30th, '07, 00:22

so far, I'm giving Hana yori Dango 2 a.... 2 THUMBS UP!!! :thumright: :thumleft:
I thought I wouldn't like the season 2 of Meteor Garden(MG2)... but I was wrong hehe.
soo far I'm liking it... I just finished watching ep 4. and... RUI AND MAKINO! for life! :P

question:

(Just incase... for people who hasen't seen Meteor Garden 2 or read the maga)

In Meteor Garden 2, Dao Ming Si and San Cai ends up together... did the drama(MG2) follow the manga?
is Hana Yori Dango following the manga too? like... will Tsukasa and Makino will end up together...
*sigh* I guess that is most likely might happen...

I've been praying that the producers would twist the story and not follow the manga...
... give fans of the manga and drama a SHOCKER :shocked: ENDING: RUI and MAKINO together! =D
but the drama hasn't ended or reached mid-point... soo we never know... I'm still praying >-<

...

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Post by chack » Jan 30th, '07, 00:27

BBoPPy wrote:so far, I'm giving Hana yori Dango 2 a.... 2 THUMBS UP!!! :thumright: :thumleft:
I thought I wouldn't like the season 2 of Meteor Garden(MG2)... but I was wrong hehe.
soo far I'm liking it... I just finished watching ep 4. and... RUI AND MAKINO! for life! :P

question:

(Just incase... for people who hasen't seen Meteor Garden 2 or read the maga)

In Meteor Garden 2, Dao Ming Si and San Cai ends up together... did the drama(MG2) follow the manga?
is Hana Yori Dango following the manga too? like... will Tsukasa and Makino will end up together...
*sigh* I guess that is most likely might happen...

I've been praying that the producers would twist the story and not follow the manga...
... give fans of the manga and drama a SHOCKER :shocked: ENDING: RUI and MAKINO together! =D
but the drama hasn't ended or reached mid-point... soo we never know... I'm still praying >-<

...
Now relating to HYD characters, who are Dao and San?
Lol, that'd be awesome for fans of RxT.
But I would like to have an entire change.

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Post by kitty!_xsweet » Jan 30th, '07, 00:29

BBoPPy wrote:so far, I'm giving Hana yori Dango 2 a.... 2 THUMBS UP!!! :thumright: :thumleft:
I thought I wouldn't like the season 2 of Meteor Garden(MG2)... but I was wrong hehe.
soo far I'm liking it... I just finished watching ep 4. and... RUI AND MAKINO! for life! :P

question:

(Just incase... for people who hasen't seen Meteor Garden 2 or read the maga)

In Meteor Garden 2, Dao Ming Si and San Cai ends up together... did the drama(MG2) follow the manga?
is Hana Yori Dango following the manga too? like... will Tsukasa and Makino will end up together...
*sigh* I guess that is most likely might happen...

I've been praying that the producers would twist the story and not follow the manga...
... give fans of the manga and drama a SHOCKER :shocked: ENDING: RUI and MAKINO together! =D
but the drama hasn't ended or reached mid-point... soo we never know... I'm still praying >-<

...
i didn't like MG2. I thought it was really boring compared to MG1. I really think they were just trying to sap all the money they could from the series.

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Post by eegybur » Jan 30th, '07, 00:41

chack wrote:
BBoPPy wrote:so far, I'm giving Hana yori Dango 2 a.... 2 THUMBS UP!!! :thumright: :thumleft:
I thought I wouldn't like the season 2 of Meteor Garden(MG2)... but I was wrong hehe.
soo far I'm liking it... I just finished watching ep 4. and... RUI AND MAKINO! for life! :P

question:

(Just incase... for people who hasen't seen Meteor Garden 2 or read the maga)

In Meteor Garden 2, Dao Ming Si and San Cai ends up together... did the drama(MG2) follow the manga?
is Hana Yori Dango following the manga too? like... will Tsukasa and Makino will end up together...
*sigh* I guess that is most likely might happen...

I've been praying that the producers would twist the story and not follow the manga...
... give fans of the manga and drama a SHOCKER :shocked: ENDING: RUI and MAKINO together! =D
but the drama hasn't ended or reached mid-point... soo we never know... I'm still praying >-<

...
Now relating to HYD characters, who are Dao and San?
Lol, that'd be awesome for fans of RxT.
But I would like to have an entire change.
Daomingsi is the Taiwanese counterpart to Tsukasa and Shancai is the counterpart to Makino.

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Post by chack » Jan 30th, '07, 00:44

eegybur wrote:
chack wrote:
BBoPPy wrote:so far, I'm giving Hana yori Dango 2 a.... 2 THUMBS UP!!! :thumright: :thumleft:
I thought I wouldn't like the season 2 of Meteor Garden(MG2)... but I was wrong hehe.
soo far I'm liking it... I just finished watching ep 4. and... RUI AND MAKINO! for life! :P

question:

(Just incase... for people who hasen't seen Meteor Garden 2 or read the maga)

In Meteor Garden 2, Dao Ming Si and San Cai ends up together... did the drama(MG2) follow the manga?
is Hana Yori Dango following the manga too? like... will Tsukasa and Makino will end up together...
*sigh* I guess that is most likely might happen...

I've been praying that the producers would twist the story and not follow the manga...
... give fans of the manga and drama a SHOCKER :shocked: ENDING: RUI and MAKINO together! =D
but the drama hasn't ended or reached mid-point... soo we never know... I'm still praying >-<

...
Now relating to HYD characters, who are Dao and San?
Lol, that'd be awesome for fans of RxT.
But I would like to have an entire change.
Daomingsi is the Taiwanese counterpart to Tsukasa and Shancai is the counterpart to Makino.
Well if they ended up together, why'd people hate it so much?
Because of the storyline?

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Post by easilyboredguh » Jan 30th, '07, 01:20

HQLover wrote:
marie_23 wrote:
vina.loves.sushi wrote:
well, i just love rui in both the manga and jdorama...even though rui's character in the jdorama is starting to be different from the manga i still love it cause it's getting so interesting! :D oh the drama! :P can't wait for the next episode! :lol
Your right about Rui being totally different from the manga
I so agree it's going to get very interesting with this new turn Rui has taken in the drama. Before he seem to me to be not playing a good version of Rui. Since in the manga Rui is a very laid back kind of guy and didn't get between Makino & Doumyouji so much as this Rui in the drama does.
I wonder if Rui will put pressure on Makino to be his girlfriend for some reason I think Rui might cause problems for Makino
Remember Shizuka warning to Rui not to make Makino cry

This might sounds stupid, but what's a MANGA? where can I watch this?
I thought in the manga, Rui did the same thing too, confess to Makino and all just to make Doumyouji and Makino realize that they still love each other and that they need to be together. Hm....maybe it was in the anime. Ahaha, I don't know anymore since I've watched/read everything and anything that has to do with HYD and everything is all jumbled together.
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Post by GrR ChRiStInE TM » Jan 30th, '07, 01:25

Is there anywhere i can download the anime?

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Post by IndieRockerette » Jan 30th, '07, 01:51

GrR ChRiStInE TM wrote:Is there anywhere i can download the anime?
I'm not sure if you can download it but you can watch it on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p ... CB10FA5D53

Not sure if these videos are on private though because the person who uploaded it is already on my Friend's List. Ahhh Friday can't come soon enough :-( . I want my Hana Yori Dango now :D !

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Post by inutikidude » Jan 30th, '07, 02:00

easilyboredguh wrote:
HQLover wrote:
marie_23 wrote:
Your right about Rui being totally different from the manga
I so agree it's going to get very interesting with this new turn Rui has taken in the drama. Before he seem to me to be not playing a good version of Rui. Since in the manga Rui is a very laid back kind of guy and didn't get between Makino & Doumyouji so much as this Rui in the drama does.
I wonder if Rui will put pressure on Makino to be his girlfriend for some reason I think Rui might cause problems for Makino
Remember Shizuka warning to Rui not to make Makino cry

This might sounds stupid, but what's a MANGA? where can I watch this?
I thought in the manga, Rui did the same thing too, confess to Makino and all just to make Doumyouji and Makino realize that they still love each other and that they need to be together. Hm....maybe it was in the anime. Ahaha, I don't know anymore since I've watched/read everything and anything that has to do with HYD and everything is all jumbled together.
yeah in the manga rui did confess to makino to make tsukasa and makino realize how dumb they are. but, you can tell that hes actually trying to help them. in the jdrama however, he looks so deadly serious that he wont give makino back to tsukasa O_O. or maybe thats just shun's acting.
whoa a person who doesnt know what a manga is O_O. manga is a comic book which hyd the drama is based on.
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Post by animefreak » Jan 30th, '07, 03:31

rofl! "what is a manga and where can i watch it?" actually, you can watch mangas on youtube. -.-; its a video so if you read too slow or too fast it could be annoying
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Post by eUxaZnxRo » Jan 30th, '07, 03:38

animefreak wrote:rofl! "what is a manga and where can i watch it?" actually, you can watch mangas on youtube. -.-; its a video so if you read too slow or too fast it could be annoying
no way... i never heard of that... that is fun, but i would have to say that i would be annoyed because at times i am a slow reader and at times a fast one... sounds like a fun thing to try out though... :-)

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Post by makino_sanbr » Jan 30th, '07, 04:07

Oh God..
I'm use to read all the pages of this thread...
But i just can't..
i just read couple pages and make me sad
and ask myself
"this people like the same story than me"?
I know that i have to respect who like Rui..
and everything
But
oh.. please..
I'm so angry about this 'Rui' that they make up in this Drama.
Definitely not the 'rui' that i know for other HYD versions..
and worst..
because if they take too much in this love triangle..

HYD will be just another boring, without taste, normal soap-opera..

'Rui' Character is not my favorite.
But i truly respect him in HYD.
Because without him would not be this amazing chemistry in HYD.
If they chance too much Rui.. will be totally unbalance...
Rui.. is suppose to be a friend that respect and support who he loves.. his friends and makino..

and .. is so easy to be with rui, isn't:?
So safe.
The perfect prince charming... that you don't have to take down your pride...
you don't have to put yourself in a position that you are insecure and have much to lose..

Again, if makino choose rui
I will hate HYD.
Probably because Makino would not be my favorite, strong, brave character.
And because she just give up....
this truly amazing baka,selfish,Innocent,honest... heart...

Other day i wrote a big post when i read someone talking here..
that Rui is so much sweet and did more for makino
I just list everything that the Drama didn't show.. and Domyoji did..
I just get so angry because I love this characters..
and even Matsujun is a good domyoji..
Why they don't show all the things that Tsukasa give up to be with makino..
He is the one that have more to loose..
and he just put his heart, his soul, his life for her..
is so strong.. and people come and tell that Domyoji don't deserve.. that rui make more?

But i just give up...
And again i ask myself "they like the same story than me??"

**This drama to me are become.. a like Domyoji said.. bitter/sweet...
I love to see HYD.. I love see makino, domyoji, rui , akira, soujiro...
yuuki, susumu, mama, papa, even Kaede...
But i'm not liking what they are doing with Rui...
I didn't like the 'junpei' part...
I didn't like the inversion in the 'Shigeru's onsen'**

About the inversion:
I hated the inversion.
All the plot about shigeru's onsen was that
Shigeru at that time still wanted to make Tsukasa like her...
and thought that Makino was with Rui.
But little by little she notices that Domyoji get so nervous with Makino around, how jealous his about her and how he just run to try safe her.. and how miserable he is when he see that Rui was already there.
So Shigeru notices that Domyoji likes Makino.
Ans Tsukasa honest tell her that.
And because He know that he hurt her heart he tell to her that she can beat him as much she wants... and she beats him and cry over him.
Her tears dropping at his face.
(A amazing dramatic scene that could be done ... would be perfect)

One think is the person tell to you that like someone else...
And other thing is you open a door and see they together..
Make the feeling that they were betraying her...

Then Rui sees makino sad about domyoji... He knows that she is sad because Domyoji is with other woman.
Then He HELP her and give to her SUPPORT...
Totally different from HIT ON HER.
there's this amazing scene in the car ..
when they're going back from shigeru's onsen...
that makino can't stop think about Domyoji and Shigeru together...
She was so distracted that Rui make some node at her hair..
and she said "Is awful she somebody else love scene, isn't"
Then Rui tell her **still laughing about her hair**
"Is only awful when is the love scene from the person that you love"

They just.. miss everything in the drama..
This inversion make the feeling that Domyoji was been unfair to shigeru..
and i will not comment again about rui.. :glare:

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Post by junmao03 » Jan 30th, '07, 05:00

i hope the producers wont prolong the "rui thingy" because i wanna see
makino & domyoji in each other's arms again, facing every obstacle that is coming
their way.. ^_^

i like rui though.. but not for makino..
peace!! :D

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Post by CarolL » Jan 30th, '07, 05:19

junmao03 wrote:i hope the producers wont prolong the "rui thingy" because i wanna see
makino & domyoji in each other's arms again, facing every obstacle that is coming
their way.. ^_^

i like rui though.. but not for makino..
peace!! :D
Everybody keep saying Rui is always there for her!! I want to ask did he ever sacrifies ANYTHING AT ALL for her?? Give me a list, I need to know!!!

Domyouji has given her so much LOVE that is MORE than Rui can ever do in HYD 2. Domyouji has gone from HEAVEN to HELL and back again for Makino, has RUI ever done that? NO, I don't think so!

Sorry for being to harsh, I have to defend my BOY!!
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Post by bitofpixiedust » Jan 30th, '07, 05:24

I'm really conflicted as to whether Hanazawa Rui or Domyouji is better for Makino. I love Domyouji and Makino together, since they have so much fire, but I like Rui so much that I can't hate him getting together with whoever he wants!
Even though I love Rui, I would be disappointed if Makino and Domyoujiweren't together in the end...I just hope Rui doesn't get hurt <3<3

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Post by touchthesun » Jan 30th, '07, 05:44

inutikidude wrote:
easilyboredguh wrote: This might sounds stupid, but what's a MANGA? where can I watch this?
whoa a person who doesnt know what a manga is O_O. manga is a comic book which hyd the drama is based on.

LOL. I had the same reaction! I guess it's easy to forget that some people may not know especially when it seems to be everywhere to us.

Anyway regarding the whole Rui/Makino thing. I'll be clear first of all that I firmly love Makino with Tsukasa. As much as I like Rui, Makino and Rui are not meant for each other and I'm sure most of you can understand why.

To Makino, Rui is ultimately perfect, but her feelings for him are of great admiration and friendship rather than love. Her feelings for Tsukasa are beyond rationalization, even to herself, but we can't deny the fact that she loves him most. You can see it in here eyes and you can feel how much pain she is in each time she's around him.

Although Rui has expressed feelings for Makino, I can't help but think that it is largely because he has grown to love her in Shizuka's absence. She amuses him quite a bit and he admires her strength. In a way, she's very much like Shizuka in that they are both strong and independent. However, Rui is also able to see Makino's fragile side. He is able to do things to help her and feel needed--something he was unable to do for Shizuka. In a way, Makino is ideal for him, because she carries the qualities he likes most in Shizuka, but also doesn't treat him like a younger brother, but more as someone she relies on and admires.

He obviously love Shizuka most, but has come to terms with Shizuka's own feelings towards him. That is as far as I can understand from the drama. So, naturally Makino, for Rui is the logical choice. Rui never meant to be in the way of Tsukasa and Makino, but I think he's feelings towards her deepened each time he sees her in pain and Tsukasa unable to make a move. Maybe he feels obligated to care for her and pursuing a relationship with her seems to be the obvious next step. In the end, I still can't shake the feeling that his love (Rui) for Makino is largely a protective type of love and not romantic. He cares for her very much, but Tsukasa clearly loves her to the point of insanity.
Anyway those are just my two and a half cents. Hopefully no one flames me :)

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Post by trunkims » Jan 30th, '07, 05:52

wnndy wrote:yesterday i just started watching hana yori dango and now i'm waiting for subs for episode 4 of hyd 2

oomgg i'm crazy...
i looove the drama

i soo hope that tsukishi (is that her name?) and tsukasa can be together at the end..they are perfect for each other
there are subs for ep 4 already it's on page 220......and its tsukushi lol....enjoy the drama...next episode is on friday!!

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Post by mina_03 » Jan 30th, '07, 06:13

Okay I read the manga a long time ago and as far as I can remember,
Didn't Rui act like he liked Makino when Domoyjoi starts ignoring Makino and he is about to go to New York and Rui tells him that nothing happened between them slept in a room together. Domoyjoi wishes them good luck before he boards the plane. ( thats what its seems to like rui is doing watching the preview of episode 5 just that Domoyjoi won't go to new york.) I think Rui is making Domo decide what he wants the most.

Watching episode 4 scene between shizuka and Rui seemed like Rui is still in love with her.
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Post by Pandemonium » Jan 30th, '07, 06:36

haha, that surprised me...
about the not knowing of the manga.
btw no spoilers please.

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Post by mina_03 » Jan 30th, '07, 07:34

Pandemonium wrote:haha, that surprised me...
about the not knowing of the manga.
btw no spoilers please.
Sorry I forgot but I changed it to a spoiler now.

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Post by ilurrveniki » Jan 30th, '07, 07:39

touchthesun wrote:
inutikidude wrote:
easilyboredguh wrote: This might sounds stupid, but what's a MANGA? where can I watch this?
whoa a person who doesnt know what a manga is O_O. manga is a comic book which hyd the drama is based on.

LOL. I had the same reaction! I guess it's easy to forget that some people may not know especially when it seems to be everywhere to us.

Anyway regarding the whole Rui/Makino thing. I'll be clear first of all that I firmly love Makino with Tsukasa. As much as I like Rui, Makino and Rui are not meant for each other and I'm sure most of you can understand why.

To Makino, Rui is ultimately perfect, but her feelings for him are of great admiration and friendship rather than love. Her feelings for Tsukasa are beyond rationalization, even to herself, but we can't deny the fact that she loves him most. You can see it in here eyes and you can feel how much pain she is in each time she's around him.

Although Rui has expressed feelings for Makino, I can't help but think that it is largely because he has grown to love her in Shizuka's absence. She amuses him quite a bit and he admires her strength. In a way, she's very much like Shizuka in that they are both strong and independent. However, Rui is also able to see Makino's fragile side. He is able to do things to help her and feel needed--something he was unable to do for Shizuka. In a way, Makino is ideal for him, because she carries the qualities he likes most in Shizuka, but also doesn't treat him like a younger brother, but more as someone she relies on and admires.

He obviously love Shizuka most, but has come to terms with Shizuka's own feelings towards him. That is as far as I can understand from the drama. So, naturally Makino, for Rui is the logical choice. Rui never meant to be in the way of Tsukasa and Makino, but I think he's feelings towards her deepened each time he sees her in pain and Tsukasa unable to make a move. Maybe he feels obligated to care for her and pursuing a relationship with her seems to be the obvious next step. In the end, I still can't shake the feeling that his love (Rui) for Makino is largely a protective type of love and not romantic. He cares for her very much, but Tsukasa clearly loves her to the point of insanity.
Anyway those are just my two and a half cents. Hopefully no one flames me :)
hey! I totally agree with what you said!!! :cheers:

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Post by zinaa » Jan 30th, '07, 08:03

wooouha..... i can't wait to see ep 5...............
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Post by ilovehyd » Jan 30th, '07, 08:33

I LOVE JUN. <3

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Post by lee`s little alien » Jan 30th, '07, 09:44

:blink the spirits got heated between the rui supporters and the tsukasa supporters!a drama that makes people discuss with such strong arguments on each of the boys side,is a great drama......i might go even further and say that is a perfect drama! :mrgreen: :wub:

but i have to agree with the tsukasa supporters!tsukasa sure gave his all for this love,he was even ready to push makino away so that he could protect her from his mother`s malicious plans,and yet he was ready to give up everything when he arrived at the hospital,and just be with her!he suffers so much exactly cos his love for makino is so deep and so strong!but i`m sure that he sure can overcome anything for this love that he cherishes so much!i remember now what he said about the taste of love in the ep4
"For me the taste of love is the taste of that cookie u gave me!"(or something like this :mrgreen: )
i mean how sweet is that?
and for that whole year while he was away that was the only thing that reminded him of her....and he kept it and when he missed her and felt like he couldn`t bear it anymore he would open that box and touch the cookie! :wub:
supporting tsukushi and tsukasa forever :P :mrgreen: :cheers:
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Post by zinaa » Jan 30th, '07, 10:07

I was googling and found this pix of Makino in her school uniform I did some ps-ed to take out the text… :D
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Post by roswell990 » Jan 30th, '07, 11:04

zinaa wrote:I was googling and found this pix of Makino in her school uniform I did some ps-ed to take out the text… :D

kawaaaaaaiiii :wub: , she's really cute .. :-) *wonders if theres more* :scratch:
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Post by baby_bytes » Jan 30th, '07, 11:37

GrR ChRiStInE TM wrote:Is there anywhere i can download the anime?
Just look for it very hard on google, I did, I just downloaded the anime last week, it's a little over 3 GB's. Sorry I can't give you a link, I pretty much just downloaded it and forgot where from lol :scratch: the website is in a different language, but they have the name of 'Hana Yori Dango" and I believe they have the manga too bc I downloaded that too. it has english subs and it should be a download on Bittorrent. Just look very hard on google, and you'll be able to find it.

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Post by baby_bytes » Jan 30th, '07, 11:46

makino_sanbr wrote:Oh God..
I'm use to read all the pages of this thread...
But i just can't..
i just read couple pages and make me sad
and ask myself
"this people like the same story than me"?
I know that i have to respect who like Rui..
and everything
But
oh.. please..
I'm so angry about this 'Rui' that they make up in this Drama.
Definitely not the 'rui' that i know for other HYD versions..
and worst..
because if they take too much in this love triangle..

HYD will be just another boring, without taste, normal soap-opera..

'Rui' Character is not my favorite.
But i truly respect him in HYD.
Because without him would not be this amazing chemistry in HYD.
If they chance too much Rui.. will be totally unbalance...
Rui.. is suppose to be a friend that respect and support who he loves.. his friends and makino..

and .. is so easy to be with rui, isn't:?
So safe.
The perfect prince charming... that you don't have to take down your pride...
you don't have to put yourself in a position that you are insecure and have much to lose..

Again, if makino choose rui
I will hate HYD.
Probably because Makino would not be my favorite, strong, brave character.
And because she just give up....
this truly amazing baka,selfish,Innocent,honest... heart...

Other day i wrote a big post when i read someone talking here..
that Rui is so much sweet and did more for makino
I just list everything that the Drama didn't show.. and Domyoji did..
I just get so angry because I love this characters..
and even Matsujun is a good domyoji..
Why they don't show all the things that Tsukasa give up to be with makino..
He is the one that have more to loose..
and he just put his heart, his soul, his life for her..
is so strong.. and people come and tell that Domyoji don't deserve.. that rui make more?

But i just give up...
And again i ask myself "they like the same story than me??"

**This drama to me are become.. a like Domyoji said.. bitter/sweet...
I love to see HYD.. I love see makino, domyoji, rui , akira, soujiro...
yuuki, susumu, mama, papa, even Kaede...
But i'm not liking what they are doing with Rui...
I didn't like the 'junpei' part...
I didn't like the inversion in the 'Shigeru's onsen'**

About the inversion:
I hated the inversion.
All the plot about shigeru's onsen was that
Shigeru at that time still wanted to make Tsukasa like her...
and thought that Makino was with Rui.
But little by little she notices that Domyoji get so nervous with Makino around, how jealous his about her and how he just run to try safe her.. and how miserable he is when he see that Rui was already there.
So Shigeru notices that Domyoji likes Makino.
Ans Tsukasa honest tell her that.
And because He know that he hurt her heart he tell to her that she can beat him as much she wants... and she beats him and cry over him.
Her tears dropping at his face.
(A amazing dramatic scene that could be done ... would be perfect)

One think is the person tell to you that like someone else...
And other thing is you open a door and see they together..
Make the feeling that they were betraying her...

Then Rui sees makino sad about domyoji... He knows that she is sad because Domyoji is with other woman.
Then He HELP her and give to her SUPPORT...
Totally different from HIT ON HER.
there's this amazing scene in the car ..
when they're going back from shigeru's onsen...
that makino can't stop think about Domyoji and Shigeru together...
She was so distracted that Rui make some node at her hair..
and she said "Is awful she somebody else love scene, isn't"
Then Rui tell her **still laughing about her hair**
"Is only awful when is the love scene from the person that you love"

They just.. miss everything in the drama..
This inversion make the feeling that Domyoji was been unfair to shigeru..
and i will not comment again about rui.. :glare:
CarolL wrote:
junmao03 wrote:i hope the producers wont prolong the "rui thingy" because i wanna see
makino & domyoji in each other's arms again, facing every obstacle that is coming
their way.. ^_^

i like rui though.. but not for makino..
peace!! :D
Everybody keep saying Rui is always there for her!! I want to ask did he ever sacrifies ANYTHING AT ALL for her?? Give me a list, I need to know!!!

Domyouji has given her so much LOVE that is MORE than Rui can ever do in HYD 2. Domyouji has gone from HEAVEN to HELL and back again for Makino, has RUI ever done that? NO, I don't think so!

Sorry for being to harsh, I have to defend my BOY!!
YES YES YES!!! lol This I SOOOOOO much agree!!! Doumyouji has gone through so much with that babaa of his mother; to the point where he has to keep things bottled up and he's just dying inside not being able to do anything...all for the sake of some company. MONEY isn't happiness!!! and that babaa of his mother is using that guys suicide in order to keep Doumyouji to keep on doing what SHE wants. How low is that?!?!?! She hasn't been a mother at all to him. Now he has to sacrifice his happiness, and the one he loves. Ok yeah Rui has lent a shoulder for Makino to cry on and yes that means a lot but it's nothing compared to what Doumyouji is going through.

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Post by lee`s little alien » Jan 30th, '07, 11:49

YES YES YES!!! lol This I SOOOOOO much agree!!! Doumyouji has gone through so much with that babaa of his mother; to the point where he has to keep things bottled up and he's just dying inside not being able to do anything...all for the sake of some company. MONEY isn't happiness!!! and that babaa of his mother is using that guys suicide in order to keep Doumyouji to keep on doing what SHE wants. How low is that?!?!?! She hasn't been a mother at all to him. Now he has to sacrifice his happiness, and the one he loves. Ok yeah Rui has lent a shoulder for Makino to cry on and yes that means a lot but it's nothing compared to what Doumyouji is going through.
agree 200%! :thumright: :thumleft:
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Post by baby_bytes » Jan 30th, '07, 11:51

mina_03 wrote:Okay I read the manga a long time ago and as far as I can remember,
Didn't Rui act like he liked Makino when Domoyjoi starts ignoring Makino and he is about to go to New York and Rui tells him that nothing happened between them slept in a room together. Domoyjoi wishes them good luck before he boards the plane. ( thats what its seems to like rui is doing watching the preview of episode 5 just that Domoyjoi won't go to new york.) I think Rui is making Domo decide what he wants the most.

Watching episode 4 scene between shizuka and Rui seemed like Rui is still in love with her.
Yes, but I think they used that on first season of HYD, remember how Rui takes Makino out on date and even hugs her after he comes back and Doumyouji see's that? Then D is following them on their date lol so I really don't know what's going on now in this 2nd season. lol I haven't read the manga, just been watching the anime, and in the anime Makino thinks that she starts having feelings for Rui again after Shigeru appears. Just that the anime fustrates me lol bc Makino still hasn't admitted she is in love with Doumyouji, only he has told her that he loves her.

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Post by Syce » Jan 30th, '07, 12:08

I think is really difficult for me to supporter Rui or Tsukasa. I love the two ! ^^
But is logical that Tsukasa go out with Makino... So, I'm sad for Rui but he loves Shizuka. I'm sure of this !
It's difficult.. =/

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Post by lsqB » Jan 30th, '07, 13:04

lee`s little alien wrote:
YES YES YES!!! lol This I SOOOOOO much agree!!! Doumyouji has gone through so much with that babaa of his mother; to the point where he has to keep things bottled up and he's just dying inside not being able to do anything...all for the sake of some company. MONEY isn't happiness!!! and that babaa of his mother is using that guys suicide in order to keep Doumyouji to keep on doing what SHE wants. How low is that?!?!?! She hasn't been a mother at all to him. Now he has to sacrifice his happiness, and the one he loves. Ok yeah Rui has lent a shoulder for Makino to cry on and yes that means a lot but it's nothing compared to what Doumyouji is going through.
agree 200%! :thumright: :thumleft:
Doumyouji's mom isn't trying to protect money though.
their company will COLLAPSE if Doumyouji goes to Makino.
There won't be just no money--there won't BE a company.
and then how will he support Makino? when his fortune goes poof?
And Doumyouji's mom didn't tell the guy to commit suicide. He did it on his will.
And Doumyouji's concerned about the company too. That's why he tells Shigeru, I'm going to save my company my own way. (everyone watched ep3 by now, right?)
However, he's not about to sacrifice the rest of his life for it, I guess.

The difference between Rui and Doumyouji is,
Rui has come to Makino whenever she needed a shoulder to cry on. He was kind, and she saw that. But, she also only saw him as a good friend...until episode 4.
On the other hand, Doumyouji is suffering too, yes, but he's not TELLING her what's going on, so she doesn't KNOW his suffering.
And remember that the story is told from Makino's perspective. Naturally Doumyouji gets underrated.

to the person who asked what Makino saw when she opened the door and asked "why?" at the very end of ep4...
There's a possibility that Nishida showed up on her door, to explain to her about what Doumyouji has done in NY and how he's suffering now. Just a guess though...although I don't think it's true because I thought this scene was suppose to come in ep6...

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Post by bewitched1101 » Jan 30th, '07, 14:18

CarolL wrote: I have to defend my BOY!!
HAHAHAHA you are silly. and I totally agree with you!!!! hehe

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Post by baby_bytes » Jan 30th, '07, 14:24

lsqB wrote:
lee`s little alien wrote:
YES YES YES!!! lol This I SOOOOOO much agree!!! Doumyouji has gone through so much with that babaa of his mother; to the point where he has to keep things bottled up and he's just dying inside not being able to do anything...all for the sake of some company. MONEY isn't happiness!!! and that babaa of his mother is using that guys suicide in order to keep Doumyouji to keep on doing what SHE wants. How low is that?!?!?! She hasn't been a mother at all to him. Now he has to sacrifice his happiness, and the one he loves. Ok yeah Rui has lent a shoulder for Makino to cry on and yes that means a lot but it's nothing compared to what Doumyouji is going through.
agree 200%! :thumright: :thumleft:
Doumyouji's mom isn't trying to protect money though.
their company will COLLAPSE if Doumyouji goes to Makino.
There won't be just no money--there won't BE a company.
and then how will he support Makino? when his fortune goes poof?
And Doumyouji's mom didn't tell the guy to commit suicide. He did it on his will.
And Doumyouji's concerned about the company too. That's why he tells Shigeru, I'm going to save my company my own way. (everyone watched ep3 by now, right?)
However, he's not about to sacrifice the rest of his life for it, I guess.

The difference between Rui and Doumyouji is,
Rui has come to Makino whenever she needed a shoulder to cry on. He was kind, and she saw that. But, she also only saw him as a good friend...until episode 4.
On the other hand, Doumyouji is suffering too, yes, but he's not TELLING her what's going on, so she doesn't KNOW his suffering.
And remember that the story is told from Makino's perspective. Naturally Doumyouji gets underrated.

to the person who asked what Makino saw when she opened the door and asked "why?" at the very end of ep4...
There's a possibility that Nishida showed up on her door, to explain to her about what Doumyouji has done in NY and how he's suffering now. Just a guess though...although I don't think it's true because I thought this scene was suppose to come in ep6...
It's still protecing the money what D's mom is doing. The company brought her money; therefore yeah she's protecting the company but with all the money that's involved with it, because that company has brought her wealth. I mean yeah protect what you got, but don't do it at other's people's expenses. Which is what D's mom is doing. That is why she's making him get married to Shigeru, to protect the company AND the money. She wants these two to get married so her company won't collapse and her end up broke. That is STILL protecting money. And D's mom from what i've seen doesn't want Makino for D because in her eyes she is poor. I bet if Makino were from a wealthy family she would happily accept Makino, but she's not. Money is what drives his mom from what I've seen so far. No one said that D's mom made the guy commit suicide, but she's using it against D to keep him away from Makino, the poor girl, because gawd forbid Mrs. Doumyouji going as broke as Makino lol. She doesn't seem like she cares about the employee's even tho she tells D to think about them; to me she only uses that against him to stop him from being with Makino and marrying Shigeru because her father is a wealthy man. D's mom is money driven. D is concerned for the people who work in the company, and is scared that if they lose their jobs the same thing will happen as with that guy who committed suicide, he feels awful about it. D wants to save the company for the employee's, his babaa mom wants to save the company to keep them from going BROKE. So yes she is protecting the money, and in a horrible way. I mean hell the way his mom, isn't that ugly, she just walks a bit wierd, has some wierd eyebrows and laughs wierd, but not completely ugly lol so she should go and find herself a rich man and marrying them instead of making poor D doing it with someone he doesn't love and be miserable for the rest of his life.

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Post by lee`s little alien » Jan 30th, '07, 14:41

well kaede knows that domyoji isn`t insensitive as she is and she`s using this against him.......she knows that he cares for the others and she`s taking advantage of it!i mean even at the begining of the first season when domyoji was acting all mean and heartless with the others,he did care for the other f4s didn`t he?he started ccrying when rui decided to leave to paris didn`t he?so yep he`s so different from his mom and she`s using this"weakness"of his! :crazy: :cry:
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