[Discussion] Nazotoki wa Dinner no Ato de
[Discussion] Nazotoki wa Dinner no Ato de
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Title: 謎解きはディナーのあとで
Title (romaji): Nazotoki wa Dinner no Ato de
Format: Renzoku
Genre: Mystery
Episodes: TBA
Viewership rating: TBA
Broadcast network: Fuji TV
Broadcast period: 2011-Oct-18 start
Air time: Tuesday 21:00
Theme song: Meikyu Love Song by Arashi
Opening song: Love Me Back by Koda Kumi
Synopsis
Kageyama is a butler working for a rich heiress, Reiko Hosho. Needed by detectives, Reiko is a novice detective that lacks a few deductive skills. Because of this, Kageyama is relied on by Reiko to help solve cases. Kageyama isn't afraid to use sharp words against Reiko either. This drama not only focuses on the detective cases, but the relationship between butler and heiress.
Screenwriter: Kuroiwa Tsutomu
Directors: Hijikata Masato, Ishikawa Junichi
Cast
Sakurai Sho as Kageyama
Kitagawa Keiko as Hosho Reiko
Nomaguchi Toru as Namiki Seiichi
Nakamura Yasuhi as Yamashige Satoru
Okamoto Anri as Munemori Azumi
Tanaka Konatsu as Ejiri Yuka
Shiina Kippei as Kazamatsuri Kyoichiro
Official Website: http://www.fujitv.co.jp/nazotoki/index.html
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Myself, I'm more interested in watching Keiko than anything else about this drama. I think the whole rich girl-cop idea sounds a little cheesy, although I think it could work if they don't overplay the wealth of Keiko's character. I am interested in seeing how the relationship between her and her butler turns out.
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STORMY Team, whom subs just about all Arashi-related material, is subbing this drama.GaussAlgorithmus wrote:I'm really looking forward to this one. I liked Kitagawa Keiko in "Mop Girl" and I think, funyy and silly roles fit her best.
So, the only thing that I'm worried about are subtitles...I hope someone will pick this up.
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Looks like they still do. However, they usually post their works on here as well. So I don't think there will be much of a hassel trying to get a hold of the subs.GaussAlgorithmus wrote:Do they still have the "only registered members who have taken some test about Arashi are allowed to download them" policy like last year?
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They won't. STORMY stopped releasing subs years ago because streaming sites kept appropriating their work. Of course this is no different from how they appropriate the work of Japanese television channels, but they're too crazy and/or stupid to understand the irony. And they love feeling like they're being persecuted.mrsmith10 wrote:That's a bummer. Then I do hope someone else subs this drama, or STORMY Team changes their minds and releases their subs here.
I checked out their site. It doesn't look like they actually sub dramas. All the dramas they've posted they've credited to other fansub groups. However, I'll be ok with it if they can get some subs for Nazotoki wa Dinner no Ato.biraincute wrote:If you're looking for soft subs, you can go to ourhour.livejournal.com because they will be uploading their own subs of this there
Hey, I'm thinking about soft subbing this with a friend because we watched the first episode and it seemed pretty interesting. The only problem we have is that we don't have a timer as of yet. Is anyone capturing the Japanese subs of this? That would speed things along for us because then we wouldn't have to watch the show while pausing after each sentence.
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xiuxux wrote:Hey, I'm thinking about soft subbing this with a friend because we watched the first episode and it seemed pretty interesting. The only problem we have is that we don't have a timer as of yet. Is anyone capturing the Japanese subs of this? That would speed things along for us because then we wouldn't have to watch the show while pausing after each sentence.
http://jpsubbers.x10.mx/Japanese-Subtit ... nerNoAtoDe
Whoa, that was fast. Thanks so much! Well, time to start a' translatin'harukogirl wrote:xiuxux wrote:Hey, I'm thinking about soft subbing this with a friend because we watched the first episode and it seemed pretty interesting. The only problem we have is that we don't have a timer as of yet. Is anyone capturing the Japanese subs of this? That would speed things along for us because then we wouldn't have to watch the show while pausing after each sentence.
http://jpsubbers.x10.mx/Japanese-Subtit ... nerNoAtoDe
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I always looooove seeing Keiko and I think this role is a more enjoyable (not because it's comedic) than her previous renzoku role LADY Profile (I love Keiko and all but.. eh... I wasn't feeling her too well in that show or the show altogether)
I like the comic book feel to it and the comedy. Kumi's song sounds so awesome in it tooooo. The only thing that bothers me about Keiko's character is:
I'm not a Sho fan nor am I fond of his acting... he seems decent in this but I could imagine others doing the same role. But he does look the part.
Seems like this season is wannabe detectives (Secret Spy Erika, HUNTER...) lol but they're all enjoyable actually... I think the editing of this show and how it's put together really makes it enjoyable and different than what many would expect. It's not always a cast & story that makes a show ^^
I like the comic book feel to it and the comedy. Kumi's song sounds so awesome in it tooooo. The only thing that bothers me about Keiko's character is:
Seems like this season is wannabe detectives (Secret Spy Erika, HUNTER...) lol but they're all enjoyable actually... I think the editing of this show and how it's put together really makes it enjoyable and different than what many would expect. It's not always a cast & story that makes a show ^^
I actually enjoyed LADY a lot. Not just for Keiko but the stories that circled around the cases.
As for Nazotoki wa Dinner no Ato de, I thought the first episode was ok. Keiko's character is a little ditzy, but not as much as she was in Mop Girl. I did enjoy Shiina Kippei's role a bit. His character is more flamboyant and pretty different from the other more serious roles I've seen him in. What I do like about this drama is unlike some other "rich detective" dramas I've seen, they don't overplay the main character's wealth. At least so far.
As for Nazotoki wa Dinner no Ato de, I thought the first episode was ok. Keiko's character is a little ditzy, but not as much as she was in Mop Girl. I did enjoy Shiina Kippei's role a bit. His character is more flamboyant and pretty different from the other more serious roles I've seen him in. What I do like about this drama is unlike some other "rich detective" dramas I've seen, they don't overplay the main character's wealth. At least so far.
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Yeah I did like her role in Mop Girl a lot. It was actually that role that convinced me "Hm wow I can sense versatility in her..." since I've seen her in PGSM and I think she was amazing.. always have and will esp compared to the other girls (I wouldn't think she'll be able to pull off comedic because she really did fit Rei's manga character)
Omg I soo spelled his name wrong didn't I? I think I said Teppei lol Kippei yeah he caught me a bit off guard in this. The stupid arrogant rich guy ^^;;
I really do enjoy how this comedy is done... esp involving people well... being dead >_> It's done tastefully ^^ It made me think of that Maki/Sho drama too for a moment (the style of it) I wonder what will be the major climax of this series... Since I'm guessing so far they'll solve a few cases and then get to the BIG climax and suspense. Random thought... I wish Petshop of Horrors was a drama.. it was an awful anime (how it was produced was awful) yeah really random lol
Yeah I did like her role in Mop Girl a lot. It was actually that role that convinced me "Hm wow I can sense versatility in her..." since I've seen her in PGSM and I think she was amazing.. always have and will esp compared to the other girls (I wouldn't think she'll be able to pull off comedic because she really did fit Rei's manga character)
Omg I soo spelled his name wrong didn't I? I think I said Teppei lol Kippei yeah he caught me a bit off guard in this. The stupid arrogant rich guy ^^;;
I like it!^v^ The fact that 80% of the episode shows the butler and the lady's dialogues in trying to solve the case, reminds me of Mitani Koki's two-men plays (such as Warai no Daigaku and Be Myself).
The murder case wasn't that interesting though. Sho and Keiko's performances were OK. Shiina Kippei is lovable!^^
I read that the novel is a best seller. And the author once comments that if it were to be adapted to a drama, he'd like Mukai Osamu to play the butler. As for Reiko, he said any beautiful actress should be able to play the role.
Oh yes, congratulations on the 18.1% rating! It's quite difficult to achieve this high of rating these days, not to mention it surpassed getsuku (Watashi ga Renai dekinai riyuu). But I guess the most important part is ratings for Ep2-3
I read that the novel is a best seller. And the author once comments that if it were to be adapted to a drama, he'd like Mukai Osamu to play the butler. As for Reiko, he said any beautiful actress should be able to play the role.
Oh yes, congratulations on the 18.1% rating! It's quite difficult to achieve this high of rating these days, not to mention it surpassed getsuku (Watashi ga Renai dekinai riyuu). But I guess the most important part is ratings for Ep2-3
Episode 2's ratings went down but were still a healthy 16.1%. As for the episode itself, once again I thought that it was just ok. It didn't have the funny moments that the first episode had. However, the case was a little more interesting and had a bit more meat on it. I do like how Kageyama uses his deduction skills to help Reiko solve the cases.
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So far, I enjoy this drama. I really like Keiko in a comedic role like in mop girl, and this one comes often quite close. The way of telling the story is something different then in the usual detective dramas, makes this show appear "fresh" to me.
The only thing I fear is, that every episode will be more or less the same. While it is still funny, I clearly prefer shows with an underlining story arc...something in their past, a stronger growth between the butler and her, something like that, something, that makes you want to see the next episode, because you wonder "what will happen to them next".
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When some shows kida repeat the same thing/routine in every episode it can really work (I liked it in Anna-san no Omame.. to me that was funny lol) but I guess in this.. it doesn't work too well but..... each episode seems like a standalone-ish eppy so... it can be pulled off because you don't even have to watch the show in order to since there's no linear storyline (as of yet)
I find this show really to be pure entertainment and just the interaction of the 3 main characters... but unlike shows that are for really entertainment & laughs it's not pulling me in that much (like Nodame... omg was already sucked in after like...10 minutes lol) As a whole, it's ok and I think still enjoyable but it's not something to have extreme depth with. Does the feel of this show differs from the manga?
When some shows kida repeat the same thing/routine in every episode it can really work (I liked it in Anna-san no Omame.. to me that was funny lol) but I guess in this.. it doesn't work too well but..... each episode seems like a standalone-ish eppy so... it can be pulled off because you don't even have to watch the show in order to since there's no linear storyline (as of yet)
I find this show really to be pure entertainment and just the interaction of the 3 main characters... but unlike shows that are for really entertainment & laughs it's not pulling me in that much (like Nodame... omg was already sucked in after like...10 minutes lol) As a whole, it's ok and I think still enjoyable but it's not something to have extreme depth with. Does the feel of this show differs from the manga?
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Episode 4 gave a sad look at the butler-milady long term relationship so I'm hoping Reiko-Kageyama relationship will progress further. I don't see any chance of Kageyama having a girlfriend with his daily stalking of Reiko.GaussAlgorithmus wrote:Episode 4 was decent again, and it raises my hopes, the the "Milady - Butler" relationship won't stay as one.
This series is 10 episodes right? Reiko probably will be able to make her own deduction without relying on Kageyama by episode 8. For now, I'm still enjoying Reiko surrendering to Kageyama sadism
so far i'm liking the series. I'm not in for the killing cases anyway. I have CSI and detective conan for that
i dunno about you but this 'sadistic' butler role works for me lol
someone mention the author actually want osamu mukai to play Kageyama but IMO he's cute- too cute to be mean like sho did and had me buying And i would probably be spending time fangirling rather than watching
I think from the start it's more about a butler-milady relationship eh? and i'm really keen on that and the unrealness of it hehe
i dunno about you but this 'sadistic' butler role works for me lol
someone mention the author actually want osamu mukai to play Kageyama but IMO he's cute- too cute to be mean like sho did and had me buying And i would probably be spending time fangirling rather than watching
I think from the start it's more about a butler-milady relationship eh? and i'm really keen on that and the unrealness of it hehe
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I don't know why I'm loving this drama but I do. It's not that funny, the cases are basic, I'm not a fan of Kitagawa Keiko and Sho Sakurai acting but as another episode ends, I'm eager to see the next episode. What is this addiction with mediocrity...
Episode 6 was fun. They are extending 15 extra minutes for episode 7. Can somebody explain why? It's not ending yet right?
Episode 6 was fun. They are extending 15 extra minutes for episode 7. Can somebody explain why? It's not ending yet right?
After a school-related hatius from this drama, I was finally able to catch up to episode 6. I thought the cases in episodes 4 and 5 were interesting. Episode 6 was somewhat interesting as well. Not as interesting as 4 and 5, but better than the first three. The quality of the cases are starting to pick up a little. Still, I want to see more development from Keiko's character. So far, her character here has been a little flat and not as likable as she was in Mop Girl, in which she played a similar role.
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I just caught up on this drama this weekend. I meant to only watch a couple of episodes but I got caught up in the cheesiness of the whole thing. Especially the last episode with the lead detective playing up to the camera. Heehee! It's good to have some light relief alongside Mitsu no Aji.
It's nice to have a detective drama where they explain how to solve the cases over a cup of tea. I wish I had a butler to serve me tea and cook me delicious dinners. I expecially liked the omurice he made when they were at the wedding! Must find a recipe...
It's nice to have a detective drama where they explain how to solve the cases over a cup of tea. I wish I had a butler to serve me tea and cook me delicious dinners. I expecially liked the omurice he made when they were at the wedding! Must find a recipe...
NOPE. Actually after um..... 6? I just decided to drop it. I dunno since I knew it was gonna be repetitive but if the chemistry isn't there then yeah... it's not that enjoyable (like TRICK is very repetitive but everyone loves Yukie/Abe. They're amazing plus some of the editing they do with it is a plus ^^) I was never really crazy about Sho's acting anyway (I didn't care for him in Kisarazu... the Lawyer drama... eh..... and I saw him in a SP of that Yankee school thingy and he just seem like a Gokusen kid (not that special)noshadow31 wrote:Am I the only one who find the exchanges between milady and butler dry and forced? and the repetitive scenes boring?
The one thing I like about this is how they show the 'gathering eyewitnesses' I dunno it makes me smile and seeing the way Keiko reacts around her boss... other than that... I dunno I don't like her snobby side that much either.
@brokenkiss I actually find a few Johnnys who act like that...
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i'm not saying sakurai is special lol but i'm curious who the other "dry & forced" actors. one of the famous "can't act" johnny is yamapi but he's "dry & dead"«minah» wrote: @brokenkiss I actually find a few Johnnys who act like that...
sorry for the slight OT. I think despite of Sakurai acting disabilities, he fits the role well like he did in Kisarazu and the rest of dramas he acted in. Somehow the directors cast him because there's a Sho Sakurai element in the characters they visualized. I think I'm starting to like the cheesiness in his acting
Keiko Kitagawa was gorgeous in a red dress for ep.8.
ep.9 teaser looks mighty interesting.
How did you know who I was referring tooooo!??!brokenparadise wrote:i'm not saying sakurai is special lol but i'm curious who the other "dry & forced" actors. one of the famous "can't act" johnny is yamapi but he's "dry & dead"«minah» wrote: @brokenkiss I actually find a few Johnnys who act like that...
sorry for the slight OT. I think despite of Sakurai acting disabilities, he fits the role well like he did in Kisarazu and the rest of dramas he acted in. Somehow the directors cast him because there's a Sho Sakurai element in the characters they visualized. I think I'm starting to like the cheesiness in his acting
Keiko Kitagawa was gorgeous in a red dress for ep.8.
ep.9 teaser looks mighty interesting.
I dunno I wasn't crazy about his character and pretty much liked everyone else in the show (KCE) but yeah... from what I've seen so far of him... I'm meh. I don't go out my way to see something just because of him.
I do say that Keiko knows how to work her outfits in this show ^^
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It will always be Yamapi but the guy never use force. He usually act like he's sleepwalking.«minah» wrote:How did you know who I was referring tooooo!??!brokenparadise wrote:i'm not saying sakurai is special lol but i'm curious who the other "dry & forced" actors. one of the famous "can't act" johnny is yamapi but he's "dry & dead"«minah» wrote: @brokenkiss I actually find a few Johnnys who act like that...
sorry for the slight OT. I think despite of Sakurai acting disabilities, he fits the role well like he did in Kisarazu and the rest of dramas he acted in. Somehow the directors cast him because there's a Sho Sakurai element in the characters they visualized. I think I'm starting to like the cheesiness in his acting
Keiko Kitagawa was gorgeous in a red dress for ep.8.
ep.9 teaser looks mighty interesting.
I dunno I wasn't crazy about his character and pretty much liked everyone else in the show (KCE) but yeah... from what I've seen so far of him... I'm meh. I don't go out my way to see something just because of him.
I do say that Keiko knows how to work her outfits in this show ^^
I pretty much LOVE every character in KCE and Sakurai was the perfect Bambii. I see no one else could fit Bambii as perfectly as he did. The only other drama of his that I could finish was Yamada Taro.
Can't wait for ep.9!! I have to say, ep.8 was quite enjoyable, more than the usual fare.
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I think Yamashita used force in Nobuta because he seemed very forceful but yeah.
Oh yeah he was in Yamada Tarou.. I really love Nino's acting BUT... that drama.. in my opinion... was pretty bad (just my opinion ><) and I couldn't finish it. I thought Sho was bleh (but I don't blame him.. sometimes I think it's also the script's fault too because I dunno... he was.. just there. And I think Nino wasn't the best choice in my opinion) But I think Arashi fans just loved seeing them in it so..... at least it appealed tot hem.
I'm a bit too off-topic so lemme say something relevant um... I love Kumi's song in this & she's really pretty/sexy in the PV ^^ Diamonds, and sapphires, and you oh my!
I think Yamashita used force in Nobuta because he seemed very forceful but yeah.
Oh yeah he was in Yamada Tarou.. I really love Nino's acting BUT... that drama.. in my opinion... was pretty bad (just my opinion ><) and I couldn't finish it. I thought Sho was bleh (but I don't blame him.. sometimes I think it's also the script's fault too because I dunno... he was.. just there. And I think Nino wasn't the best choice in my opinion) But I think Arashi fans just loved seeing them in it so..... at least it appealed tot hem.
I'm a bit too off-topic so lemme say something relevant um... I love Kumi's song in this & she's really pretty/sexy in the PV ^^ Diamonds, and sapphires, and you oh my!
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^disagree. pi was good in nobuta but he was never forceful. he played it naturally even though Akira was high 80% of the time. he's mostly dead in other characters though.
YTM was ok. have to take account it's pretty cartoonish and nino made a good spin out of a character that didn't suit him in the first place.
yes we are. Love Me Back is my favorite Koda Kumi song now. It's just so sexy.
ooh. ratings went up again! 15.4% for ep.8. not bad.
YTM was ok. have to take account it's pretty cartoonish and nino made a good spin out of a character that didn't suit him in the first place.
yes we are. Love Me Back is my favorite Koda Kumi song now. It's just so sexy.
ooh. ratings went up again! 15.4% for ep.8. not bad.
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^LOL at yamapi acting like he's sleepwalking ^^
But anyway, the show is not boring anymore! I really enjoy ep7-8 even though the cases are still so forced but the execution is good.
Shiina Kippei's performance does not disappoint and I think Keiko being in pretty dresses thruout the episodes really help!! (no more boring work clothes yay!!)
But anyway, the show is not boring anymore! I really enjoy ep7-8 even though the cases are still so forced but the execution is good.
Shiina Kippei's performance does not disappoint and I think Keiko being in pretty dresses thruout the episodes really help!! (no more boring work clothes yay!!)
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not sure. Both of them enjoyed having each other company. They have a very good friendship going on. I'm still rooting for them to get together. Kageyama secret protective glances over his oujo-sama doesn't seem like it's not going beyond a butler and his lady.... but I want more!
There's a rumor of a possible sequel. a lot are rooting for something happening between those two. Maybe a valentine special?
There's a rumor of a possible sequel. a lot are rooting for something happening between those two. Maybe a valentine special?
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you can see the Kanji in the 3rd pic on the left here
http://www.fujitv.co.jp/nazotoki/story/story08.html
it's a fictional drama tho
http://www.fujitv.co.jp/nazotoki/story/story08.html
it's a fictional drama tho
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Yappa ka
Overall, though the story gets monotone sometimes, but I enjoyed this drama enough that it ranks #3 my favorite among autumn dramas this year ^v^
Sakurai Sho finally in a role that suits him well and Kitagawa Keiko's comedic performance got better on each episode.
I have gotten sick of detective dramas, but this one managed to get my interest due to the different backgrounds of the leading characters. (compared to other detective dramas)
I'm in love so much with the music scores! Kanno Yugo ROCKS, as always!
Overall, though the story gets monotone sometimes, but I enjoyed this drama enough that it ranks #3 my favorite among autumn dramas this year ^v^
Sakurai Sho finally in a role that suits him well and Kitagawa Keiko's comedic performance got better on each episode.
I have gotten sick of detective dramas, but this one managed to get my interest due to the different backgrounds of the leading characters. (compared to other detective dramas)
I'm in love so much with the music scores! Kanno Yugo ROCKS, as always!
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^ Glad you enjoyed it! As for Sho, imo he was well casted in most characters he had played but Sho-san just lacking in talent to perform the characters like a proper actor should.
The drama is pretty entertaining overall. Keiko and Sho are gorgeous to look at and they did a decent job to make the characters quite memorable. It is not much of a detective drama, light and nonsensical. Great if you love observing Sho Sakurai as a delectable butler or Keiko Kitagawa as his adorable ojousama.
The drama is pretty entertaining overall. Keiko and Sho are gorgeous to look at and they did a decent job to make the characters quite memorable. It is not much of a detective drama, light and nonsensical. Great if you love observing Sho Sakurai as a delectable butler or Keiko Kitagawa as his adorable ojousama.
Good news everyone! There's going to be an SP on the 27th March at 9pm!
It's set in Okinawa and Kageyama 'may' be involved in some kind of romance. On the website it's phrased as "Surely Kageyama isn't involved in a love romance...!?" which I'm guessing means everyone thinks that he is but it turns out to be something completely different. As well as Kageyama, all the main characters from the series will return (Reiko, Kazematsuri etc..
It's set in Okinawa and Kageyama 'may' be involved in some kind of romance. On the website it's phrased as "Surely Kageyama isn't involved in a love romance...!?" which I'm guessing means everyone thinks that he is but it turns out to be something completely different. As well as Kageyama, all the main characters from the series will return (Reiko, Kazematsuri etc..
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