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ASK A BLACK GUY! Your curious questions answered

Post by Fantastical » Mar 24th, '10, 13:29

Curious as to why black peopel act like that on music videos?
Why do black guys call there girlfriends bitches and hoes?
Do all black people love fried chicken?
Can every black person say a rhyme or "spit lyrics" without sheet music or background music?
Do all black people act like they do on BET?
Do peopel really act like that in the movie Precious?

That an dmany more questions I am ready to answer for you great public!
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Don't be scared
I will answer all questions with as much maturity as possible.

SO please ask your questions.

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Post by Kagesou » Mar 24th, '10, 13:44

are you black?

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Post by Fantastical » Mar 24th, '10, 14:09

Kagesou wrote:are you black?
That is a darn good question.

The president of the united states gets asked that all the time. So does Vin Diesel but he usually denies it.

My father was born and raises here in the states with family that can be traced back into slavery.

My mother is Honduran SHe was born and rasied in the Cayman Islands.

SO dpeending who you are asking..I am either..black..or hispanic..or both.
However it is usually the general consensus that people of color that are half black are usually looked at as hal black.
This goes back to the days of slavery and before that.

In fact Alexander Dumas, the writer of such tales as The man in the iron mask andThe Three musketeers considered himself black. He was asked after his fame and he said "Where you see yoru blood line ends I see mine begin"
you se, during times of american slavery it wasn't uncommon fo rthe salve masters to have their way with women. with or against their will wasn't a factor in their eyes but the children that were born well...it was always a slave. Muh like Hong Gil Dong in a way I guess.
But some of the lighter sinned slaves were usually workers inside the house whiel the darker skin slaves were workers of the field. The females and many times males were used for "various services' and if one or the other owners grew tired of them they would just send them into the field again. Back amongst his own kind.

So when you hear a self identified black person says someone like Tiger Woods or Halle Berry. is black it is because of that. "They are white when everything is alright but black when something cracks" Usually this is proof when DWB or Driving While Black
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driving_While_Black or trying to get a cab in New York City.
Yes I do ask the closest white woman to hail cabs for me. It does suck...hard.

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Post by HongKongChick » Mar 24th, '10, 16:49

Fantastical wrote: Do all black people love fried chicken?
i think that's a true statement! hell who doesnt like fried chicken?! :lol

oh yea, but here in the south, they do make good freaking BBQ

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Post by Maryvel » Mar 24th, '10, 17:03

Fantastical wrote:Why do black guys call there girlfriends bitches and hoes?
Is this even true?? :lol

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Post by HongKongChick » Mar 24th, '10, 17:07

oh u know what? i think all black people can dance. i mean i have not met one that cant!

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Post by cool_drama » Mar 24th, '10, 17:37

All things equal, I gotta say I am more comfortable talking to a black person than to a white person. I don't have to worry about my grammar too much.
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Post by HongKongChick » Mar 24th, '10, 17:55

cool_drama wrote:All things equal, I gotta say I am more comfortable talking to a black person than to a white person. I don't have to worry about my grammar too much.
um..... that's f'ed up and funny at the same time.

grammar... not if u are talking to a white trash. then, u are the PhD among them :whistling:

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Post by cool_drama » Mar 24th, '10, 18:04

Yup, hence I said all things equal.

Maybe that comfort granted me with black friends.

Btw, I find this article really comical: http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/05/12/99-grammar/
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Post by bmwracer » Mar 24th, '10, 18:06

HongKongChick wrote:oh u know what? i think all black people can dance. i mean i have not met one that cant!
That's a racial stereotype. :glare:

That's like saying all Asians are short or like to eat rice.
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Post by PocketKiriyama » Mar 24th, '10, 18:22

bmwracer wrote:
HongKongChick wrote:oh u know what? i think all black people can dance. i mean i have not met one that cant!
That's a racial stereotype. :glare:

That's like saying all Asians are short or like to eat rice.
I'm short and I love rice and ramen!

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Post by HongKongChick » Mar 24th, '10, 19:40

bmwracer wrote:
HongKongChick wrote:oh u know what? i think all black people can dance. i mean i have not met one that cant!
That's a racial stereotype. :glare:

That's like saying all Asians are short or like to eat rice.
HAHAHA find me an Asian who doesnt like rice. hahaha those that dont are not real Asians. hahahaha :lol



so Fantastical: can you dance? :P

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Post by HongKongChick » Mar 24th, '10, 19:40

PocketKiriyama wrote:
bmwracer wrote:
HongKongChick wrote:oh u know what? i think all black people can dance. i mean i have not met one that cant!
That's a racial stereotype. :glare:

That's like saying all Asians are short or like to eat rice.
I'm short and I love rice and ramen!
hey me too!!!!! :cheers:

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Post by Maddie87 » Mar 24th, '10, 20:00

HongKongChick wrote:oh u know what? i think all black people can dance. i mean i have not met one that cant!
I'm sorry to disappoint you, I'm black and really can't dance at all :p

It's truly an exaggerated stereotype as someone said :D

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Post by HongKongChick » Mar 24th, '10, 20:08

Maddie87 wrote:
HongKongChick wrote:oh u know what? i think all black people can dance. i mean i have not met one that cant!
I'm sorry to disappoint you, I'm black and really can't dance at all :p

It's truly an exaggerated stereotype as someone said :D
what? really? that's hard to believe... u just being modest.. :P

but yea, i know that a stereotype, but from my own experiences, that statement is quite true. WHAHAHHAA :lol oh and from my own experiences and observations, Asians really dont drive too well. hahhaha i will give u some examples some other time

ok ok, sorry guys and girls, dont wanna piss anybody off here. :P

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Post by PocketKiriyama » Mar 24th, '10, 21:03

HongKongChick wrote:
Maddie87 wrote:
HongKongChick wrote:oh u know what? i think all black people can dance. i mean i have not met one that cant!
I'm sorry to disappoint you, I'm black and really can't dance at all :p

It's truly an exaggerated stereotype as someone said :D
what? really? that's hard to believe... u just being modest.. :P

but yea, i know that a stereotype, but from my own experiences, that statement is quite true. WHAHAHHAA :lol oh and from my own experiences and observations, Asians really dont drive too well. hahhaha i will give u some examples some other time

ok ok, sorry guys and girls, dont wanna piss anybody off here. :P
I'm guessing I'm the black sheep when it comes to driving.

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Post by Cherek » Mar 24th, '10, 21:09

Yo fantastical,

Is it true that black ppl under each other somehow always try to show off with especially expensive stuff?

this is my question to a black guy so far more will come :D

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Post by Fantastical » Mar 24th, '10, 21:32

Sorry folks! I had to tend to some business. But I will be answering questions shortly.
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Post by Fantastical » Mar 24th, '10, 21:35

HongKongChick wrote:
Fantastical wrote: Do all black people love fried chicken?
i think that's a true statement! hell who doesnt like fried chicken?! :lol

oh yea, but here in the south, they do make good freaking BBQ
I know a few peopel that just don't like it.
yep pariahs . they preferred BBQ or broiled chicken.
Can't stand the texture they say.

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Fantastical wrote:
HongKongChick wrote:
Fantastical wrote: Do all black people love fried chicken?
i think that's a true statement! hell who doesnt like fried chicken?! :lol

oh yea, but here in the south, they do make good freaking BBQ
I know a few peopel that just don't like it.
yep pariahs . they preferred BBQ or broiled chicken.
Can't stand the texture they say.
yeah BBQ chicken is always the way to go. That taste just can't be outdone by them super greasy friend ones.

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Post by bmwracer » Mar 24th, '10, 21:38

HongKongChick wrote:
bmwracer wrote:
HongKongChick wrote:oh u know what? i think all black people can dance. i mean i have not met one that cant!
That's a racial stereotype. :glare:

That's like saying all Asians are short or like to eat rice.
HAHAHA find me an Asian who doesnt like rice. hahaha those that dont are not real Asians. hahahaha :lol
I'm Asian and I'd pick taters over rice any day of the week. :P

And I could care less if I'm not a real Asian. :P :P :P
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Post by Fantastical » Mar 24th, '10, 21:40

Maryvel wrote:
Fantastical wrote:Why do black guys call there girlfriends bitches and hoes?
Is this even true?? :lol
yeah....some do and some don't
some use it as a term of endearment
"you are one fine ass ****!"

others

**** where you put my keys!

HOWEVER!
the same way there are different cultural distinctions in any ethinc group the same goes for black people as well.

DO NOT call anyone a ****. EVER!
The same gos for hoes, skank, or scandalous skeezer or stunt.

It's usually used by males to take away power from a female to make her seem less to the males eye to make her to appear more pliable ,controllable, etc.

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Post by bmwracer » Mar 24th, '10, 21:41

Maddie87 wrote:
HongKongChick wrote:oh u know what? i think all black people can dance. i mean i have not met one that cant!
I'm sorry to disappoint you, I'm black and really can't dance at all :p

It's truly an exaggerated stereotype as someone said :D
Yup... And something that shouldn't be propagated by people. :sweat:
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Post by HongKongChick » Mar 24th, '10, 21:43

bmwracer wrote:
HongKongChick wrote:
bmwracer wrote: That's a racial stereotype. :glare:

That's like saying all Asians are short or like to eat rice.
HAHAHA find me an Asian who doesnt like rice. hahaha those that dont are not real Asians. hahahaha :lol
I'm Asian and I'd pick taters over rice any day of the week. :P

And I could care less if I'm not a real Asian. :P :P :P
yup, confirmed, like i said, not real asian! hahaha... but then again, u drive a BMW right? well yes, u are a real asian.

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Post by HongKongChick » Mar 24th, '10, 21:46

bmwracer wrote:
Maddie87 wrote:
HongKongChick wrote:oh u know what? i think all black people can dance. i mean i have not met one that cant!
I'm sorry to disappoint you, I'm black and really can't dance at all :p

It's truly an exaggerated stereotype as someone said :D
Yup... And something that shouldn't be propagated by people. :sweat:
i dont know about others, but this topic is for exactly this type of assumption??? :roll

like i said, i have no intention to offend any race, but Fantastical has become a good friend of mine here, and maybe that's why i didnt feel that i had to be super sensitive in his thread. but i could be wrong though :P

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Post by PocketKiriyama » Mar 24th, '10, 21:47

HongKongChick wrote:
bmwracer wrote:
HongKongChick wrote:
HAHAHA find me an Asian who doesnt like rice. hahaha those that dont are not real Asians. hahahaha :lol
I'm Asian and I'd pick taters over rice any day of the week. :P

And I could care less if I'm not a real Asian. :P :P :P
yup, confirmed, like i said, not real asian! hahaha... but then again, u drive a BMW right? well yes, u are a real asian.
Lolz I love BMW.

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Post by Fantastical » Mar 24th, '10, 22:00

HongKongChick wrote:
bmwracer wrote:
HongKongChick wrote:oh u know what? i think all black people can dance. i mean i have not met one that cant!
That's a racial stereotype. :glare:

That's like saying all Asians are short or like to eat rice.
HAHAHA find me an Asian who doesnt like rice. hahaha those that dont are not real Asians. hahahaha :lol



so Fantastical: can you dance? :P
Yes I can dance.
Break dance pop and lock, waltz foxtrot tango.
as with any dance it took practice and commitment.
Why is it that it seems that we and dance and white people can't
It's the music and christianity

Well..this is just from what I have heard.
In alot of christian cultures bakc in the day
a lot of movin and shaking wasn't allowed.
I heard that the Celts use to really get down with their pagan selves.
But after christianity as introduced they were told to only move from the waist down.
WHich results in that Riverdance stuff.
So how did black people escape.
New Orleans actually and places like it
New Orleans unlike a lot of other places that had slavery they allowed their slaves to practice their own religion. SO they still were able to make their own drums and keep their own dances. of course as time went by some dances became other dances and moves. but the general idea of communicating emotions with dancing stayed thorugh the course of american history. You see when you had groups like the four tops and the platters.. those doo-wop groups they had to move in a way that would not offend the tv audience I.E. white conservate people. SO there moves were flashier than the usual crooners. Then you had guys like Elvis picking up dance moves. Oddly enough if you look through history you can see that every nations dances that has an aristocratic and lower worker classes has similar dancing styles. The richer has mroe waltz like moves stiff...slow moving...and les interpersonal with the other dance partner while the less well to do side of town had dancing that was wilder and more intimate with eahc other. A lot more suggestives moves a lot more animated.

Now how is it that it seem sliek all black peopel know how to dance? TV
it's was hard to get on tv as anythign but a dancer or a singer rmemebr kids being a black athlete and secind string one is pretty new. So in order to make that entertainer money you had to eithe rsing (with the help of your local baptist church usually) OR some sort of tap dancer...that was one push..the other...YOu really couldn't afford to go to the movies or ther ewere none. Wite's only maybe but as far as dancing you culd do that at yoru home or everyone could gather at somebody's hose that had the latest album. The community gathered and peopel danced and learned from each other.
Dancing was has still is a sign of verility.
SOme black people just don't dance or can't dance.
I personally think everyone can dance. I teach all my friends if they want to learn and me have fun. Not every black person moves like MJ or Chris Brown but we get our groove on.
Those that an't...they feel they can't The sam eas cooking or whatever

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Post by bmwracer » Mar 24th, '10, 22:02

HongKongChick wrote:but then again, u drive a BMW right? well yes, u are a real asian.
Gehh, yet another stereotype. :pale:
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Post by Ethlenn » Mar 24th, '10, 22:15

Fantastical wrote: But after christianity as introduced they were told to only move from the waist down.
WHich results in that Riverdance stuff.
I don't wanna be picky but moving with hips down was considered as lustful, that is why it was forbidden. But you know, it wasn't forbidden ENTIRELY. I want to remind everybody of Carnival, the only time when fool became king, when everything was allowed. Even very, very naughty dance. And there are lot of stereotypes on Middle Ages, but you know, the times were so unhinged back there, Middle Ages is a fascinating time of huge contrasts. And not of darkness. Read Name of the Rose, people, you will laugh your a.., ekhem heads off^^
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Riverdance is another history, it has a little in common with true Celtic dancing.
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Post by Fantastical » Mar 24th, '10, 22:22

Cherek wrote:Yo fantastical,

Is it true that black ppl under each other somehow always try to show off with especially expensive stuff?

this is my question to a black guy so far more will come :D
AHH! I love this queston!
The "What's with all the bling"? question

Well everyone shows off their weatlh.
Just in different ways.
SOme it's real estate and yachts.
Other it's iced out watches and diamond studded white gold fronts

WHy the gold and jewelry
Easy! It was a lot harder to get real estate.
a lot of peopel won't sell houses to black peopel (to this day)
in fear of the neighborhoods property worth dropping.
"If them darkies move in you know the spics ain't far behind!!"

So if you were stuck in the projects or areas where the property was the same no mattr what you did you had to show your success in other ways.
For some it's jewelry or clothing some it's hair.
(I recommend watching the documentary Good Hair by Chris Rock into the insight of black hair care and black women. )
Another good depiction of black people back in the day is a movie called "Boyz in da hood" starring Cuba Gooding Jr and Lawrence Fishburne

Now unfortunately people emulate what they see on tv.
Now back in the 90's rap went from rap about unity to rap about the struggle of th west coast. gangster rap took over thn rap from the ATL and that area hit. SOmehow keeping it real meant keeping it grimey for record companies.

(watch CB4 with yet again Chris Rock) You had to be a thug then after awhile you had to be a thug that made it. but you still had to be a thug.
Ca't have a rapper that finished college. that would be against the laws of rapping?

A good example of that is The Cosby Show
Yes many critics including BET Television (which i call Black Exploitation Television) Thought that the portrayal of a blakc family with both parents and one that went to medical school and became a doctor while the wife was a lawyer was unrealistic AND impossible. They didn't have flashy jewellery or anything and they weren't entertainers. hey got their success through college despite the fact that there are a decent of mouth of black college (cuz..you know...whitey wasn't having a black guy up in Harvard..That just wasn't happening..nah...) It wasn't that far behind that Good Times was seen as an accurete potrayal of every black family then The jeffersons a black man that started his own successful business. then the Cosby show then The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.
But these unfortunately are rare shows and sadly enough the only show that showed asians not in a restaurant as a family business was All American girl Starring Margaret Cho. No one was a martial arts instructor or a cook or the usual tv tropes.

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Post by Fantastical » Mar 24th, '10, 22:25

bmwracer wrote:
HongKongChick wrote:but then again, u drive a BMW right? well yes, u are a real asian.
Gehh, yet another stereotype. :pale:
I thought BMW stood for Black Man's Whip.
I heard that somewhere...possibly...CNN...I don't know... :P

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Post by Lucille » Mar 24th, '10, 22:28

Is this topic serious? Like Really? I think I am offended!

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Post by bmwracer » Mar 24th, '10, 22:29

Fantastical wrote:
bmwracer wrote:
HongKongChick wrote:but then again, u drive a BMW right? well yes, u are a real asian.
Gehh, yet another stereotype. :pale:
I thought BMW stood for Black Man's Whip.
LOL. :lol

You can interpret "Whip" in a number of different ways... :P

Though again, another stereotype. :sweat:
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Post by Fantastical » Mar 24th, '10, 22:38

Ethlenn wrote:
Fantastical wrote: But after christianity as introduced they were told to only move from the waist down.
WHich results in that Riverdance stuff.
I don't wanna be picky but moving with hips down was considered as lustful, that is why it was forbidden. But you know, it wasn't forbidden ENTIRELY. I want to remind everybody of Carnival, the only time when fool became king, when everything was allowed. Even very, very naughty dance. And there are lot of stereotypes on Middle Ages, but you know, the times were so unhinged back there, Middle Ages is a fascinating time of huge contrasts. And not of darkness. Read Name of the Rose, people, you will laugh your a.., ekhem heads off^^
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Riverdance is another history, it has a little in common with true Celtic dancing.
Yes..christianity was all about the no lust thing. (Hence missionary position (so I heard)
Too many atachmens with pagan holidays like Ostara (DON'T TOUCH THE MAYPOLE KIDS!)

Well most of those carnivals were due to the fact that they weren't christians they were a large segment of the Rom (you might know them as gypsies but gypsy is a bad term. don't use it. thanks) and every kingdom knows you need an outlet for vice. Even kings had pimp cups.

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Post by Fantastical » Mar 24th, '10, 22:44

bmwracer wrote:
Fantastical wrote:
bmwracer wrote: Gehh, yet another stereotype. :pale:
I thought BMW stood for Black Man's Whip.
LOL. :lol

You can interpret "Whip" in a number of different ways... :P

Though again, another stereotype. :sweat:
Yeah...oh I know...the literal sense I went on a trip with my father side of the family and we saw one of the wood sheds were MY family was whipped. It's a moving thing to know that it wasn't that long ago you were counted as livestock on someone's plantation

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Post by Fantastical » Mar 24th, '10, 22:46

HongKongChick wrote:, Asians really dont drive too well. hahhaha i will give u some examples some other time
Sez the lady that drifts cars...

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Post by HongKongChick » Mar 24th, '10, 22:49

Fantastical wrote:
HongKongChick wrote:, Asians really dont drive too well. hahhaha i will give u some examples some other time
Sez the lady that drifts cars...
ya... but i should shut up, mr. beamer over there is gonna report my ass for racist. haha....

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Post by Fantastical » Mar 24th, '10, 22:55

HongKongChick wrote:
Fantastical wrote:
HongKongChick wrote:, Asians really dont drive too well. hahhaha i will give u some examples some other time
Sez the lady that drifts cars...
ya... but i should shut up, mr. beamer over there is gonna report my ass for racist. haha....
Wow..it's always the hot ones that suffer :-(

So when is our wedding happening?
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Post by Fantastical » Mar 24th, '10, 23:01

cool_drama wrote:All things equal, I gotta say I am more comfortable talking to a black person than to a white person. I don't have to worry about my grammar too much.
I do speak the King's English I only speak the "ebonics" in very rare circumstances.

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Post by HongKongChick » Mar 24th, '10, 23:06

Fantastical wrote:
cool_drama wrote:All things equal, I gotta say I am more comfortable talking to a black person than to a white person. I don't have to worry about my grammar too much.
I do speak the King's English I only speak the "ebonics" in very rare circumstances.
why do u ever speak ebonics? a very very good friend is black, but he is very educated and everything, his wife also very educated and both have good jobs. when we hang out, they speak english, then as soon as they are with their "peers", they switch to ebonics.

i dont do that with my asian friends. u know what i am talking about right? asians have a different way of speaking english, and i dont mean chingrish. but i have never done that. maybe coz i dont hang out with the American born asians that much. but i dont know, why do u do it?

(i mean no disrespect ) :cry:

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Post by Fantastical » Mar 24th, '10, 23:46

HongKongChick wrote:
Fantastical wrote:
cool_drama wrote:All things equal, I gotta say I am more comfortable talking to a black person than to a white person. I don't have to worry about my grammar too much.
I do speak the King's English I only speak the "ebonics" in very rare circumstances.
why do u ever speak ebonics? a very very good friend is black, but he is very educated and everything, his wife also very educated and both have good jobs. when we hang out, they speak english, then as soon as they are with their "peers", they switch to ebonics.

i dont do that with my asian friends. u know what i am talking about right? asians have a different way of speaking english, and i dont mean chingrish. but i have never done that. maybe coz i dont hang out with the American born asians that much. but i dont know, why do u do it?

(i mean no disrespect ) :cry:
No worries the future Mrs. Fantastical
Why do we do that?
hhmm...don't know why? I guess it's because we don't have our own language.
Our slang is our way of speaking so that other people don't know what we are saying

case in point...



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Post by Arhazivory » Mar 25th, '10, 00:57

Fantastical wrote:
bmwracer wrote:
HongKongChick wrote:but then again, u drive a BMW right? well yes, u are a real asian.
Gehh, yet another stereotype. :pale:
I thought BMW stood for Black Man's Whip.
I heard that somewhere...possibly...CNN...I don't know... :P
You're wrong. BMW means 'Black Man's Wheels'. :D

Fantastical, it seems you're answering questions from a Black American's point of view (I hate the term 'African American cause it's bloody stupid). For eg, the Ebonics thing only applies to Americans. In Jamaica, less than 5% of the population is white/asian/whatever else, so naturally certain stereotypes wouldn't apply because there is a range of different personalities. I can't dance and know many others who can't either; some people's grammar suck but this happens with all races so...nothing to write home about.

I have a question though: Why do you keep spelling 'people' wrong? :P
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Post by Fantastical » Mar 25th, '10, 02:21

Arhazivory wrote:
Fantastical wrote:
bmwracer wrote: Gehh, yet another stereotype. :pale:
I thought BMW stood for Black Man's Whip.
I heard that somewhere...possibly...CNN...I don't know... :P
You're wrong. BMW means 'Black Man's Wheels'. :D

Fantastical, it seems you're answering questions from a Black American's point of view (I hate the term 'African American cause it's bloody stupid). For eg, the Ebonics thing only applies to Americans. In Jamaica, less than 5% of the population is white/asian/whatever else, so naturally certain stereotypes wouldn't apply because there is a range of different personalities. I can't dance and know many others who can't either; some people's grammar suck but this happens with all races so...nothing to write home about.

I have a question though: Why do you keep spelling 'people' wrong? :P
Yes! Black American! :D
Whip is another name for car. so both can apply.
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"When the steering wheel was first put into use in automobiles, it was called the "whip". The whip is what you used to control the horses on a stagecoach, hence the analogy. Many years later, various hip hop artists noticed that the Mercedes-Benz logo resembled a steering wheel. They then proceeded to use the old term "whip" to describe any Mercedes-Benz vehicle. The term has now been generalized to classify any expensive automobile.
The new show "Unique Whips" on SpikeTV is obviously going to suck."

is it from a black american point of view...being from the USA...I wold say so.
Now if you are wondering why not Jamacia it's because in my dealings in my life Jamaian do not consider themselves "black" at all. They see themselves as Jamacian which means as I have been told (screamed at) The only thing I have in common with them is my skin color nothing else. in america there is a big fallout between the Jamacian, African, and black American communities. Could it be the way Black Americans are potrayed overseas? Maybe? The same for people of africa or jamacia? possibly. Difference in dialect and speech understanding one another? very possible.


Do I associate with people from Africa and / or Jamacia? yep.
As far as myself spelling peopel wrong? wrong (just like that) it's the same as mispelling the word The which many people do as "Teh" and many other errors that are found on the internet. I amnot much of a spelling slut. My American Sign Language is weak as it is perfecting my typing isn't the top of the list. I don't feel the need to error correct every single word I mistype unless it's for a formal business letter or presentation.

Maybe that's just me. :whistling:

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Post by jigenbakuda » Mar 25th, '10, 04:16

HongKongChick wrote:
Fantastical wrote:
cool_drama wrote:All things equal, I gotta say I am more comfortable talking to a black person than to a white person. I don't have to worry about my grammar too much.
I do speak the King's English I only speak the "ebonics" in very rare circumstances.
why do u ever speak ebonics? a very very good friend is black, but he is very educated and everything, his wife also very educated and both have good jobs. when we hang out, they speak english, then as soon as they are with their "peers", they switch to ebonics.

i dont do that with my asian friends. u know what i am talking about right? asians have a different way of speaking english, and i dont mean chingrish. but i have never done that. maybe coz i dont hang out with the American born asians that much. but i dont know, why do u do it?

(i mean no disrespect ) :cry:
I'm a black dude and I'll get in on this convo, even if only for a moment.

First off I can fluently speak in the dialect of ebonics (florida style), i also can speak "the king's english" as fanatical said. The reason for me to speak ebonics is very simple, I speak to people in the way in which I think they would feel the most comfortable. Also (erroneously) it gives me a sense of authenticity. When a guy sees me in a suit, he assumes that I'm proper, but if I speak to him like regular dude from jacksonville he is calmer and thinks "oh this nigga knows what's up". Its like the same feeling if I go to japan and start a conversation with a dude about juri ueno... he will be like, "okay this dude is cool' I'm not really cool, nor do I know what's up per say, but familiarity brings with it a sense of comfort, which in turn relaxes one, which in turn builds rapport. Sounds complicated, but its a fairly intuitive process that you probably do yourself. Just a method to build rapport.

I'm black and I can dance, my sisters are black my brother is black none of them are really good at dancing.
I'm black and I love fried chicken, but so do the other non-blacks in popeyes.
I'm black and called women hoes for most of my life, I know plenty black guys who are very offended by this.

I'm in Japan right now as I type and you would be surprised how many black stereotypes you can put on japanese people, lol. We are all the same, we really are, culture separates us, but we really are all the same...
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Post by PocketKiriyama » Mar 25th, '10, 12:53

jigenbakuda wrote: I'm in Japan right now as I type and you would be surprised how many black stereotypes you can put on japanese people, lol. We are all the same, we really are, culture separates us, but we really are all the same...
I couldn't have said it better myself.

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Do black guys like girls with big asses....the bigger the better?

**plays MC hammer's "I like big butts!"**

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Post by HongKongChick » Mar 25th, '10, 15:42

Arhazivory wrote: (I hate the term 'African American cause it's bloody stupid).
hehehe thank god someone is on the same page as me. but i always have to be careful not to say "black" coz some people are so sensitive that they might raise hell :crazy:

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Post by HongKongChick » Mar 25th, '10, 15:52

jigenbakuda wrote:
I'm a black dude and I'll get in on this convo, even if only for a moment.

First off I can fluently speak in the dialect of ebonics (florida style), i also can speak "the king's english" as fanatical said. The reason for me to speak ebonics is very simple, I speak to people in the way in which I think they would feel the most comfortable. Also (erroneously) it gives me a sense of authenticity. When a guy sees me in a suit, he assumes that I'm proper, but if I speak to him like regular dude from jacksonville he is calmer and thinks "oh this nigga knows what's up". Its like the same feeling if I go to japan and start a conversation with a dude about juri ueno... he will be like, "okay this dude is cool' I'm not really cool, nor do I know what's up per say, but familiarity brings with it a sense of comfort, which in turn relaxes one, which in turn builds rapport. Sounds complicated, but its a fairly intuitive process that you probably do yourself. Just a method to build rapport.

I'm black and I can dance, my sisters are black my brother is black none of them are really good at dancing.
I'm black and I love fried chicken, but so do the other non-blacks in popeyes.
I'm black and called women hoes for most of my life, I know plenty black guys who are very offended by this.

I'm in Japan right now as I type and you would be surprised how many black stereotypes you can put on japanese people, lol. We are all the same, we really are, culture separates us, but we really are all the same...
oooooo i love popeyes! :) sooooo much better than KFC

i get what u are saying. kind of like when i speak to Asians that dont speak english very well, i dumb it down a notch, like slower, simple words to make them feel comfortable. or i will speak chinese to those i know who are chinese to make them feel more comfortable with me, and they might give me a discount !!! :lol

yea, we are all the same. at least, u know what? on the internet, if we dont know what we are, where we are from, i would probably never realize Fantastical and you are both black. and vice versa.

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Post by PocketKiriyama » Mar 25th, '10, 16:50

HongKongChick wrote:
Arhazivory wrote: (I hate the term 'African American cause it's bloody stupid).
hehehe thank god someone is on the same page as me. but i always have to be careful not to say "black" coz some people are so sensitive that they might raise hell :crazy:
Where I work I have to differentiate between them. Either one gets upset when I say the wrong thing. I mean what the hell is this? Live with it dammit! You all would say the same about us. Not all asians are "chinese".

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Post by HongKongChick » Mar 25th, '10, 16:57

PocketKiriyama wrote:
HongKongChick wrote:
Arhazivory wrote: (I hate the term 'African American cause it's bloody stupid).
hehehe thank god someone is on the same page as me. but i always have to be careful not to say "black" coz some people are so sensitive that they might raise hell :crazy:
Where I work I have to differentiate between them. Either one gets upset when I say the wrong thing. I mean what the hell is this? Live with it dammit! You all would say the same about us. Not all asians are "chinese".
yup... but i was never chinese though... people ALWAYS mistaken me as either japanese or korean!!! hell i was hit on at the airport a few times by black guys saying how u doing in japanese and korean!! but never chinese. hahaahaha :lol

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Post by PocketKiriyama » Mar 25th, '10, 17:14

HongKongChick wrote:
PocketKiriyama wrote:
HongKongChick wrote:
hehehe thank god someone is on the same page as me. but i always have to be careful not to say "black" coz some people are so sensitive that they might raise hell :crazy:
Where I work I have to differentiate between them. Either one gets upset when I say the wrong thing. I mean what the hell is this? Live with it dammit! You all would say the same about us. Not all asians are "chinese".
yup... but i was never chinese though... people ALWAYS mistaken me as either japanese or korean!!! hell i was hit on at the airport a few times by black guys saying how u doing in japanese and korean!! but never chinese. hahaahaha :lol
But I can tell you're chinese.....maybe because I'm part chinese. Who knows....

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Post by HongKongChick » Mar 25th, '10, 17:16

PocketKiriyama wrote:
But I can tell you're chinese.....maybe because I'm part chinese. Who knows....
then u'd be the first to actually see me as a chinese girl. most chinese dont even know... maybe coz i am from hong kong, and i dont have the nerdy chinese look. hhaha :roll

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Post by PocketKiriyama » Mar 25th, '10, 17:41

HongKongChick wrote:
PocketKiriyama wrote:
But I can tell you're chinese.....maybe because I'm part chinese. Who knows....
then u'd be the first to actually see me as a chinese girl. most chinese dont even know... maybe coz i am from hong kong, and i dont have the nerdy chinese look. hhaha :roll
I'm the nerdy type...wait nevermind you saw my pic and ..uh...do I look like an asian nerd?

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Post by HongKongChick » Mar 25th, '10, 18:04

nope u are not the nerdy type. gangsta type! hahaha :)

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Post by PocketKiriyama » Mar 25th, '10, 18:29

HongKongChick wrote:nope u are not the nerdy type. gangsta type! hahaha :)
If you see me in person I'm definitely not gangsta.....I think

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Post by Arhazivory » Mar 25th, '10, 19:18

Fantastical wrote:
Arhazivory wrote:
Fantastical wrote:
I thought BMW stood for Black Man's Whip.
I heard that somewhere...possibly...CNN...I don't know... :P
You're wrong. BMW means 'Black Man's Wheels'. :D

Fantastical, it seems you're answering questions from a Black American's point of view (I hate the term 'African American cause it's bloody stupid). For eg, the Ebonics thing only applies to Americans. In Jamaica, less than 5% of the population is white/asian/whatever else, so naturally certain stereotypes wouldn't apply because there is a range of different personalities. I can't dance and know many others who can't either; some people's grammar suck but this happens with all races so...nothing to write home about.

I have a question though: Why do you keep spelling 'people' wrong? :P
Yes! Black American! :D
Whip is another name for car. so both can apply.
yanked from Urban Dictionary

"When the steering wheel was first put into use in automobiles, it was called the "whip". The whip is what you used to control the horses on a stagecoach, hence the analogy. Many years later, various hip hop artists noticed that the Mercedes-Benz logo resembled a steering wheel. They then proceeded to use the old term "whip" to describe any Mercedes-Benz vehicle. The term has now been generalized to classify any expensive automobile.
The new show "Unique Whips" on SpikeTV is obviously going to suck."

is it from a black american point of view...being from the USA...I wold say so.
Now if you are wondering why not Jamacia it's because in my dealings in my life Jamaian do not consider themselves "black" at all. They see themselves as Jamacian which means as I have been told (screamed at) The only thing I have in common with them is my skin color nothing else. in america there is a big fallout between the Jamacian, African, and black American communities. Could it be the way Black Americans are potrayed overseas? Maybe? The same for people of africa or jamacia? possibly. Difference in dialect and speech understanding one another? very possible.


Do I associate with people from Africa and / or Jamacia? yep.
As far as myself spelling peopel wrong? wrong (just like that) it's the same as mispelling the word The which many people do as "Teh" and many other errors that are found on the internet. I amnot much of a spelling slut. My American Sign Language is weak as it is perfecting my typing isn't the top of the list. I don't feel the need to error correct every single word I mistype unless it's for a formal business letter or presentation.

Maybe that's just me. :whistling:
I wonder what Jamaicans you're talking to. lol. Well I admit that we're more inclined to first say we're Jamaican than we're black, but it's not because we don't consider ourselves black. Technically speaking we're all mixed, hence our motto - Out of Many One People. A 'pure' black person is a rarity. Take myself for example - my great grandfather was Scottish and my great grandmother was Indian, then somewhere along the line black got mixed in, but if anyone asks my race the first thing I'll say is black. When I look at my skin that's what I see. lol.

Black Americans are portrayed mainly as being more gangsta than anything else (except for Cosby show and a few others). I always wonder why a movie with predominantly black people for example would have violence, cursing etc as side themes; that's just annoying. I'm sure not all Black Americans talk smut 90% of the time.

The 'peopel' thing is odd. I've come across the 'teh's' and the 'wut' but peopEl...that's kinda off. -_-

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Post by Horizon » Mar 25th, '10, 20:51

Wow, after reading the title I didn't know what to expect, but who'd have thought there'd be some thought out conversation. On the internet! I know! LOL

jigenbakuda speaks a lot of truth.

I remember one time there was this newbie speaking in slang at work. It was almost like a strange parallel universe.
Especially as my speech is automatically locked on "the queens english" at work. I could feel my brain burning rubber trying to figure out how I wanted to speak. :P
In the end I think it came out as a random mix, including expletives. LOL

Hmm I agree this is very America-centric. As an Englishman I would like to verify that fried chicken has my firm seal of approval!!
And I do know some black people who can't dance, but they all happen to hang out in white areas. So either it has nothing to do with race, or its contagious LMAO.
Make your own decisions :P
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Post by HongKongChick » Mar 25th, '10, 21:48

Horizon wrote:Wow, after reading the title I didn't know what to expect, but who'd have thought there'd be some thought out conversation. On the internet! I know! LOL

jigenbakuda speaks a lot of truth.

I remember one time there was this newbie speaking in slang at work. It was almost like a strange parallel universe.
Especially as my speech is automatically locked on "the queens english" at work. I could feel my brain burning rubber trying to figure out how I wanted to speak. :P
In the end I think it came out as a random mix, including expletives. LOL

Hmm I agree this is very America-centric. As an Englishman I would like to verify that fried chicken has my firm seal of approval!!
And I do know some black people who can't dance, but they all happen to hang out in white areas. So either it has nothing to do with race, or its contagious LMAO.
Make your own decisions :P
you know what i have noticed about England? black people there dont talk different. they are one accent, that's british accent.

but i could be wrong. do black British have their own slangs?

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Post by PocketKiriyama » Mar 25th, '10, 22:00

HongKongChick wrote:
Horizon wrote:Wow, after reading the title I didn't know what to expect, but who'd have thought there'd be some thought out conversation. On the internet! I know! LOL

jigenbakuda speaks a lot of truth.

I remember one time there was this newbie speaking in slang at work. It was almost like a strange parallel universe.
Especially as my speech is automatically locked on "the queens english" at work. I could feel my brain burning rubber trying to figure out how I wanted to speak. :P
In the end I think it came out as a random mix, including expletives. LOL

Hmm I agree this is very America-centric. As an Englishman I would like to verify that fried chicken has my firm seal of approval!!
And I do know some black people who can't dance, but they all happen to hang out in white areas. So either it has nothing to do with race, or its contagious LMAO.
Make your own decisions :P
you know what i have noticed about England? black people there dont talk different. they are one accent, that's british accent.

but i could be wrong. do black British have their own slangs?
That's true I had a worker who came from england to study here and he was talking in an english accent so I know he's from england even though he was black.

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Post by Horizon » Mar 25th, '10, 23:22

Yep. Pretty much all cultures are mixed here as well, so you won't find any (english) slang here that belongs to a single racial group. Slang changes from city to city but that's pretty much the only factor.

Not even the N word belongs to black people, because black people don't want it!

London in particular is the biggest crazy mix you have ever seen. I think because it is so dense, you'd have a hard time trying to segregate yourself, or staying ignorant of other cultures, even if you wanted to. I think the result is that the cultures merge a lot easier than geographically spread-out places.

We do have our own integration problems...but they're far from racial.
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Post by Fantastical » Mar 26th, '10, 00:21

PocketKiriyama wrote:Do black guys like girls with big asses....the bigger the better?

**plays MC hammer's "I like big butts!"**
SOme guys do some guys don't.
I've known plenty of white guys that liked junk in th etrunk
My cousins husband. He is white and he is all about the booty
Meanwhile my other Cousin he like flat buts with a little bit of lift
Like if it rains her ankles would get wet if she stood still
if ya catch my drift
of if a door slammed on her s she was leaving it would hit her on her back
Different women different things.
have seen some girls I had to tell wipe some toilet paper between your breast cuz you got no chest but your ass waay too damn big.

like..this big.. :cheers:

If you want to know ore about buts just go to assmatrix.com
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Post by Fantastical » Mar 26th, '10, 00:23

PocketKiriyama wrote:Do black guys like girls with big asses....the bigger the better?

**plays MC hammer's "I like big butts!"**
That wasn't MC Hammer that was
Sir Mix-a-lot

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Post by Fantastical » Mar 26th, '10, 00:28

HongKongChick wrote:
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But I can tell you're chinese.....maybe because I'm part chinese. Who knows....
then u'd be the first to actually see me as a chinese girl. most chinese dont even know... maybe coz i am from hong kong, and i dont have the nerdy chinese look. hhaha :roll
SO HOW ARE WE SUPPOSE TO KNOW! LOL
I don't have an eye chart. Maybe if I knew your last name maybe.
(shrugs)
Most peopel don't say chinese because many are afraid of offending.
"nah **** I'm japanese! I ain't got your laundry and no mutha fucka I do not know the secret to shaolin gung fu!"
So we would say something else.

That's been my experience.

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Post by Horizon » Mar 26th, '10, 01:06

Fantastical wrote:SO HOW ARE WE SUPPOSE TO KNOW! LOL
I don't have an eye chart. Maybe if I knew your last name maybe.
(shrugs)
Most peopel don't say chinese because many are afraid of offending.
"nah **** I'm japanese! I ain't got your laundry and no mutha fucka I do not know the secret to shaolin gung fu!"
So we would say something else.

That's been my experience.
I don't see why people can't ask if they don't know. Being able to tell or not isn't a big deal.
If I'm wrong I apologise and ask to know a bit more about them, maybe tell them where I'm from.

You can't blame someone for not being able to tell. But I can tell from my asian friends hassles that the problem isn't that.
The problem is that even when corrected people shrug it off like there's no difference...instead of accepting that they're wrong and being sincere.

It's nothing particularly to do with asians though. Wrongly guess someone's origins / nationality and then shrug it off as "close enough, you're all the same"
and prepare to have a severely pissed-off response. If they tried it with african countries, they'd get the same, but they'd probably be (acurately) called racist.
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Post by Fantastical » Mar 26th, '10, 01:47

Horizon wrote:[I
The problem is that even when corrected people shrug it off like there's no difference...instead of accepting that they're wrong and being sincere.

It's nothing particularly to do with asians though. Wrongly guess someone's origins / nationality and then shrug it off as "close enough, you're all the same"
and prepare to have a severely pissed-off response. If they tried it with african countries, they'd get the same, but they'd probably be (acurately) called racist.
Usually it's because politically correctness has dissipated countries into one big area.
as if Asia was a country. and as you have said the same with Africa.

Next time someone ask you just explain teh difference. God knows how many times I've meet someone that has never seen a black person before in person.
they wanna touch my hair and all of that stuff.
SOme people don't
For me it depends on the person. I always let kids touch my hair.
I usually get it's liek cotton sheep wool or clouds.
It's understandable to be pissed at the moment but at times like that just explain the difference. You might start them on the path of learning on a new culture.
That's why I put this up
I want peopel to talk about their cultures.
I personally know nothing about Hong Kong except that there is a Hong Kong.
Or Taiwan or a lot of other places.
Doesn't mean I don't want to learn.
I would love to learn but it's a sensitive or personal subject to alot of people.
who would I ask other than wikipedia? In my neighborhood? no one really.
I could try going to Chinatown but again who would I ask?
someone shoudl start ASK a Hongkie!

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Post by Fantastical » Mar 26th, '10, 01:49

Horizon wrote:Yep. Pretty much all cultures are mixed here as well, so you won't find any (english) slang here that belongs to a single racial group. Slang changes from city to city but that's pretty much the only factor.

Not even the N word belongs to black people, because black people don't want it!

London in particular is the biggest crazy mix you have ever seen. I think because it is so dense, you'd have a hard time trying to segregate yourself, or staying ignorant of other cultures, even if you wanted to. I think the result is that the cultures merge a lot easier than geographically spread-out places.

We do have our own integration problems...but they're far from racial.
If you really wanna get a deeper understanding of the Black American watch The Boondocks or read the comic strip that started it all.
it's not the whole thing but it comes from a more honest and positive perspective.

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Post by jigenbakuda » Mar 26th, '10, 02:02

Horizon wrote:
Fantastical wrote:SO HOW ARE WE SUPPOSE TO KNOW! LOL
I don't have an eye chart. Maybe if I knew your last name maybe.
(shrugs)
Most peopel don't say chinese because many are afraid of offending.
"nah **** I'm japanese! I ain't got your laundry and no mutha fucka I do not know the secret to shaolin gung fu!"
So we would say something else.

That's been my experience.
I don't see why people can't ask if they don't know. Being able to tell or not isn't a big deal.
If I'm wrong I apologise and ask to know a bit more about them, maybe tell them where I'm from.

You can't blame someone for not being able to tell. But I can tell from my asian friends hassles that the problem isn't that.
The problem is that even when corrected people shrug it off like there's no difference...instead of accepting that they're wrong and being sincere.

It's nothing particularly to do with asians though. Wrongly guess someone's origins / nationality and then shrug it off as "close enough, you're all the same"
and prepare to have a severely pissed-off response. If they tried it with african countries, they'd get the same, but they'd probably be (acurately) called racist.
Bolded for truth!

I was once told that people with disabilities prefer it when someone takes an actual interest in the condition they have and ask them about it, instead of staring in disgust or just assuming they are contagious. I assume the same is for any minority in a culture. (having a disability makes you a minority by the way). Just don't be offensive and even if the person is cold or unfriendly you can still learn.

If you have a question about someone's ethnicity, or anything I think you should literally rush at the opportunity to do so. Not only do you grow in character by acquiring more knowledge, but you have the potential to make another friend by talking to someone, and we all know in this world, its who you know, not what you know :D

As for big butts... Well growing up around big butts, it was more like the norm. Every girl (*cough, cough* most..) Girls had big butts, so having a butt that I could not palm with my hands was very normal. It was not until after I graduated college and being around more white people (asians are rare in jacksonville, or at the least they stay in the house...) that I noticed... Damn... what the hell happened to her butt... was it eaten... gangrene perhaps... no, definitely atrophy of the rear... But yet and still I prefer a great lower body over a great upperbody. But my girlfriend is japanese and she has very little butt, but its soft, so its all good , he he. I can not speak for all men, but I prefer a larger hips / butt on a woman, but its not a requirement tho.

But interesting observation. Women from other cultures that like black guys / the mystic of the hip-hop culture, tend to be bigger women and have more impressive butts. I'm not sure why, but a lot of white girls we went to school with, and amejou that I see in japan, have ridiculous bodies... like.. "you sure you aren't mixed with black" bodies. Maybe because they are rejected by their culture because of their body type (too much body) so they gravitate toward one in which their body type is appreciated. By the way for most of these women they tend to actually be partakers in the hip-hop culture as well (speaking urban slang, dressing like black girls, etc...) Latina girls tend to have bigger bodies, but mainly the ones that are mixed with black slaves (ie. cuban and brazilian)



Edit: Fanatical, it kinda hard to really really understand and laugh at boondocks unless you are in or know a great deal about contemporary urban black culture. My parents were lost when me and my brother had them watch the show (why are they cussing so much, that girl needs to put some clothes on, the standard old black people responses, lol) But I agree that the show is a GREAT look into contemporary black urban culture. And to new watchers of the show, pay attention to huey he is the person to actually learn from. Damn that show is good, I need to rewatch...
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Post by Fantastical » Mar 26th, '10, 02:04

HongKongChick wrote:
Horizon wrote:Wow, after reading the title I didn't know what to expect, but who'd have thought there'd be some thought out conversation. On the internet! I know! LOL

jigenbakuda speaks a lot of truth.

I remember one time there was this newbie speaking in slang at work. It was almost like a strange parallel universe.
Especially as my speech is automatically locked on "the queens english" at work. I could feel my brain burning rubber trying to figure out how I wanted to speak. :P
In the end I think it came out as a random mix, including expletives. LOL

Hmm I agree this is very America-centric. As an Englishman I would like to verify that fried chicken has my firm seal of approval!!
And I do know some black people who can't dance, but they all happen to hang out in white areas. So either it has nothing to do with race, or its contagious LMAO.
Make your own decisions :P
you know what i have noticed about England? black people there dont talk different. they are one accent, that's british accent.

but i could be wrong. do black British have their own slangs?
yeah..yeah they do...

There is even a gay slang called Polari in England

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Post by steam » Mar 26th, '10, 02:10

i'll ask the tough question...

do blacks really have larger penises?

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Post by Fantastical » Mar 26th, '10, 02:13

jigenbakuda wrote:
Horizon wrote:
Fantastical wrote:SO HOW ARE WE SUPPOSE TO KNOW! LOL
I don't have an eye chart. Maybe if I knew your last name maybe.
(shrugs)
Most peopel don't say chinese because many are afraid of offending.
"nah **** I'm japanese! I ain't got your laundry and no mutha fucka I do not know the secret to shaolin gung fu!"
So we would say something else.

That's been my experience.
I don't see why people can't ask if they don't know. Being able to tell or not isn't a big deal.
If I'm wrong I apologise and ask to know a bit more about them, maybe tell them where I'm from.

You can't blame someone for not being able to tell. But I can tell from my asian friends hassles that the problem isn't that.
The problem is that even when corrected people shrug it off like there's no difference...instead of accepting that they're wrong and being sincere.

It's nothing particularly to do with asians though. Wrongly guess someone's origins / nationality and then shrug it off as "close enough, you're all the same"
and prepare to have a severely pissed-off response. If they tried it with african countries, they'd get the same, but they'd probably be (acurately) called racist.
Bolded for truth!

I was once told that people with disabilities prefer it when someone takes an actual interest in the condition they have and ask them about it, instead of staring in disgust or just assuming they are contagious. I assume the same is for any minority in a culture. (having a disability makes you a minority by the way). Just don't be offensive and even if the person is cold or unfriendly you can still learn.

If you have a question about someone's ethnicity, or anything I think you should literally rush at the opportunity to do so. Not only do you grow in character by acquiring more knowledge, but you have the potential to make another friend by talking to someone, and we all know in this world, its who you know, not what you know :D

As for big butts... Well growing up around big butts, it was more like the norm. Every girl (*cough, cough* most..) Girls had big butts, so having a butt that I could not palm with my hands was very normal. It was not until after I graduated college and being around more white people (asians are rare in jacksonville, or at the least they stay in the house...) that I noticed... Damn... what the hell happened to her butt... was it eaten... gangrene perhaps... no, definitely atrophy of the rear... But yet and still I prefer a great lower body over a great upperbody. But my girlfriend is japanese and she has very little butt, but its soft, so its all good , he he. I can not speak for all men, but I prefer a larger hips / butt on a woman, but its not a requirement tho.

But interesting observation. Women from other cultures that like black guys / the mystic of the hip-hop culture, tend to be bigger women and have more impressive butts. I'm not sure why, but a lot of white girls we went to school with, and amejou that I see in japan, have ridiculous bodies... like.. "you sure you aren't mixed with black" bodies. Maybe because they are rejected by their culture because of their body type (too much body) so they gravitate toward one in which their body type is appreciated. By the way for most of these women they tend to actually be partakers in the hip-hop culture as well (speaking urban slang, dressing like black girls, etc...) Latina girls tend to have bigger bodies, but mainly the ones that are mixed with black slaves (ie. cuban and brazilian)
If and when you come back to the states we are hanging out.
I got fam in Palm Coast and the first round is on me!

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Post by HongKongChick » Mar 26th, '10, 02:29

steam wrote:i'll ask the tough question...

do blacks really have larger penises?
i can answer that. no.

not all black guys have large penises.... but i think the probability is higher.

on average, i think they do have the biggest. and chinese do NOT have the smallest.. it's the Indians. hahaa :lol

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Post by Fantastical » Mar 26th, '10, 02:34

steam wrote:i'll ask the tough question...

do blacks really have larger penises?
wow......
umm...

I'll tell you waht..this is what I found

Thank you for an interesting question.

Penis size
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penis_size

Penis size myths and legends

"Many cultures have a persistent urban legend that the penis size of
some minority groups is larger than the norm. In the United States,
the minority group chosen is African-American. This appears not to be
supported by anything other than anecdote. Fanon covers this subject
in some detail in "Black Skin, White Masks", and tends to agree that
this is a myth -- a conclusion that he backs up with statistics. On
the other hand, Philippe Rushton has published statistics claiming
otherwise (Race, Evolution, and Behavior: A Life History Perspective,
1995).

The only reliable penis-size studies commonly quoted in the literature
are the Kinsey study, the UCSF study, and an Italian study, none of
which even attempted to correlate size with race. There is an ongoing
government study in India, as well, commissioned with the goal of
helping reduce the high condom failure rate there. This study is not
likely to answer the question either. There have been many other
studies with claims of varying rigor - for example, the LifeStyles
condoms study -- but they are generally flawed by selection bias."

=================================================

Phalli
http://www.sexualrecords.com/WSRphysiology.html

Largest Penis by Race

"It is generally said that the penis of the Negro is very large," so
wrote German anthropologist Johann Friedrich Blumenbach in 1795. "And
this assertion is so far borne out by the remarkable genitory
apparatus of an Ethiopian which I have in my anatomical collection."
Louis Jacolliet, a 19th century French writer who spent three decades
investigating penis size, had this to say: "In no branch of the human
race are the male organs more developed than in the African Negro."
Certainly, the belief in the well-endowment of the African race has an
extensive history. But is it justified by the facts?

Going strictly by the Kinsey data, which still remains one of the most
exhaustive studies on penis size to date, the average white male has a
penis measuring 6.2 inches long and 3.7 inches around, whereas the
average black male has a penis 6.3 by 3.8 inches, for a difference of
0.1 inches--not what you'd call statistically significant. When it
came to flaccid length, however, blacks fared a little better: 4.3
inches long, versus 4.0 inches for white males. So it may be,
therefore, that while those of African heritage appear larger
initially, under actual working conditions things tend to even out.
You should consider this a tentative hypothesis rather than a
scientific fact, as there were only 59 black respondents to the
survey, versus 2,500 for whites."

=================================================

Library of Excerpts Sexual Organs and Heterochronic Theory
http://www.neoteny.org/a/testiclesize.html


***Note*** (studies included female genital/breast sizes - which I
have edited out of the article.)


"Thus, the human penis shows high species-specificity as an elaborated
genital structure. Penis size also varies moderately across
populations, being largest among African populations, smaller among
European populations, and smallest among East Asian populations, but
with substantial overlap (Rushton, 1987, 1988b, 1989b). Penises are
highly age-specific, attaining their full resting size only after
puberty, and are highly courtship-specific, attaining their full erect
size only under sexually arousing conditions. Thus, penises show all
the hallmarks of a morphological trait elaborated somehow through
sexual selection." (Miller, Geoffrey F. (1994)"

[edit]

"The ethnographic record {e.g., A French Army Surgeon (1898/1972), a
30-year specialist in genitourinary diseases} makes reference to
numerous anatomical distinctions which show a similar pattern of
whites being between blacks and Orientals."

[edit]

"We averaged the ethnographic data on erect penis and found the means
to approximate: Orientals, 4 to 5.5 in. in length and 1.25 in. in
diameter; Caucasions, 5.5 to 6 in. in length and 1.5 in. in diameter;
blacks, 6.25 to 8 in. in length and 2 in. in diameter."

[edit]

"Arab men, who were often mixed with black, had larger penises than
Europeans. Recent data show similar patterns. Measurements taken from
living subjects as well as those at autopsy, show the size of testes
is twofold lower in Asian men than Europeans (9 g vs 21 g), a
difference too large to be accounted for entirely in terms of body
size (Diamond, 1986; Short, 1984)."

[edit]

(Rushton, J.P. & Bogaert, A.F. (1987) Race differences in sexual
behavior: Testing an evolutionary hypothesis. Journal Research in
Personality 21(4): pp. 536-7)

=================================================

Health.htm
http://www.arthurhu.com/index/health.htm


http://www.newurbanmale.com/malenarciss ... tsize.html
New Urban Male
The Straits Times dated 16thJuly 2000 (Singapore) reported::
Flaccid (cm) Erect (cm)
circumference length circumference length
12.2
Chinese 8.3 8.0 11.1 8.6 -
(range) 6.5 - 10.5 4 - 11 9 - 13.8
16.5
8.4 12.4
Indian 8.8 6 - 11.5 9.5
(range) 8 - 10.5 9.3 - 13
12.5 -14.5
7.8
Malay 8.6 4.5 - 11.4 12.4
(range) 7 - 10.3 10 - 13.5 8.5 - 16
11
Western 8.85
men 9.71 5 - 12.3 12.9
(range) 6.5 - 13 15.5 9 -16 7.5 -19

this was taken from a 1996 survey by Hunter Welles,
Tom Lue and McAnich

[edit]

\doc\95\05\drtang.txt From: Charles Randles
According to Chinese sources published in Taiwan the average length
for a Chinese male is between 11(4.4") and 12(4.7") centimeters for
an erect penis. Most sources seem to agree. Japanese sources (read
in Chinese) state the average length of an erect Japanese penis is
13.6(5.35").

\priv\95\03\penmyth.txt - yolk magazine workshop believes the size
issue is a "myth"
- 1995 Yolk magazine has an article "The Asian Penis"

\doc\94\19\penmeas.txt - how to measure size correctly

\priv\94\19\ROSENIQ.txt In The Bell Curve, Murray and Herrnstein
also introduce readers to the work of J. Phillipe Rushton, a Canadian
psychologist. Rushton has argued that Asians are more intelligent than
Caucasians, have larger brains for their body size, smaller penises,
lower sex drive, are less fertile, work harder and are more readily
socialized; and Caucasians have the same relationship to blacks.

\doc\95\01\psizesum.wk1,
\doc\95\01\psize.wk1
Arthur Hu's Penis Size Survey
Nov 29, 1994
Comparison of results: Length of erect penis in inches
Rushton Hu Wizz Cosmo
Asian White Black Intern Asian White Intern Atlas
Responses #N/A #N/A #N/A 13 16 119 #N/A
Min (Inches) 4.0 5.5 6.3 Min 4.0 5.0 4.5 4.7
Max 5.5 6.0 8.0 Max 7.3 9.5 10.5 7.0
Mean 4.8 5.8 7.1 Mean 5.6 6.9 6.5 6.0
Standard Dev #N/A #N/A #N/A StdDev 1.0 1.1 1.03 #N/A
Difference -1.0 0.0 1.4 Wh-As -1.2 0.0
Wh-As / Std Dev #N/A 1.2

Item Asian White Ratio Remarks
responses 13 16
penis size, inc 5.6 6.9 1.22 Asian smaller by 1 std dev
weight, lb 163 173 1.06 Weight about same
height, in 69.5 86.9 1.25 Shorter by .25SD
circumcised 42.9% 50.0% 1.17 Both about half
vegetarian 0.0% 4.2% 0.00 Almost no vegans, despite education
iq 138 147 1.07 Not enough to really count
sat combined 1304 1396 1.07 SAT nearly same

Note - I lost my notes, but the only two blacks who responded were
much larger than the range for whites or Asians.

DOC922\PSIZE.TXT penis size survey
Cosmopolitan April 92 p. 104 Atlas of Human Sex Anatomy
Internet poll by wizzard@wam.umd.edu (The Wizzard)

Min Avg Max Vs Internet Poll
Length
Soft 3.3" 3.7" 4.1" 0.5" 3.5" 5.8"
Erect 4.7" 6.0" 7.0" 4.5" 6.5" 10.5"
Circumf 2.3" 4.7" 2.0" 5.0" 8.7"
Erection adds about 30% to length

Average weight for Internet poll - 70" tall 161 lbs

Kinsey says that 24% are average
5% are less than 3.5
1% are larger than 9

\doc\doc923\aspenis.txt[health,penis]
From alt-sex-faq 1 Jul 1992:
c3-14. What's the average length and width penis?

Source: "Race Differences in Behaviour: A Review and Evolutionary
Analysis"
by J. Philippe Rushton, Dept. of Psychology, University of
Western Ontario, London, Ontario, Canada N6A 5C2
in "Journal of Personality and Individual Differences"
Vol. 9, No. 6, 1009-1024, 1988.
519-679-2111 661-3685

According to a paper by J. Philippe Rushton, the average size for erect
penises is:

Group Length Diameter
Orientals 4 - 5.5" 1.25"
Caucasians 5.5 - 6" 1.3 - 1.6"
Blacks 6.25 - 8" 2"
a.hu - 4.5"

=================================================

Sex Project - sex, love, and relationships
http://www.sex-project.com/myths.shtml

Myths concerning males

Black men have naturally larger penises than white men.

"This couldn't be further from the truth. Based on a number of surveys
(most notably Masters and Johnson), of thousands of men of many
different races, white males actually have the largest penises. White
males averaged an erect penis length of 6.4" while black males
averaged 6.2". Hispanic men averaged 6.0" and finally east Asian men
bring up the rear with a meager 5.6"

[edit]

"Erect penis lengths are taken by measuring from the TOP of the penis,
where it joins the body, to the tip of the head."

=================================================

I located an article stating scientific studies... however, due to the
photo content on the pages I am not posting the site link.


"Thus, the human penis shows high species-specificity as an elaborated
genital structure. Penis size also varies moderately across
populations, being largest among African populations, smaller among
European populations, and smallest among East Asian populations, but
with substantial overlap (Miller, Geoffrey F. (1994) Evolution of the
human brain through runaway sexual selection: the mind as a protean
courtship device. pp. 185)

"{e.g., A French Army Surgeon (1898/1972), a 30-year specialist in
genitourinary diseases} makes reference to numerous anatomical
distinctions which show a similar pattern of whites being between
blacks and Orientals. ... size of genitalia (Orientals smallest,
blacks largest). We averaged the ethnographic data on erect penis and
found the means to approximate: Orientals, 4 to 5.5 in. in length and
1.25 in. in diameter; Caucasians, 5.5 to 6 in. in length and 1.5 in.
in diameter; blacks, 6.25 to 8 in. in length and 2 in. in diameter."
(Rushton, J.P. & Bogaert, A.F. (1987) Race differences in sexual
behavior: Testing an evolutionary hypothesis. Journal Research in
Personality 21(4): pp. 536-7)

=================================================

Discovery Health (UK Discovery Health Channel)
http://www.discoveryhealth.co.uk/encycl ... 25&title=F

Facts about penis size

=================================================


keyword search:

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Post by Fantastical » Mar 26th, '10, 02:38

HongKongChick wrote:
steam wrote:i'll ask the tough question...

do blacks really have larger penises?
i can answer that. no.

not all black guys have large penises.... but i think the probability is higher.

on average, i think they do have the biggest. and chinese do NOT have the smallest.. it's the Indians. hahaa :lol
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6161691.stm

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Post by Horizon » Mar 26th, '10, 05:08

QFT. Condom sizes vary too much from place to place. This time I was in HK it was a nightmare. All the sizes were slightly smaller.
Since then I make sure to bring my own. When will someone invent the one-size-for-all? Maybe it could mold itself or somethin...

I really wonder how many STDs people catch because of these issues. Not everyone has the will power to refrain for their entire holiday. :P
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