will you marry her??

he didnt say anything bout University...abcd meant that the poster being from UAE might see Gozen's post as a harsh one...or so, i thinkdouglas2k6 wrote:I believe it's the United Arab Emirates University.
I don't particularly agree with your post Gozen, but if that's your opinion, you must not have met a lot of religious people. I for one know a lot, from different denominations to different religions, and they are nothing like what you speak about. It sounds like you are a little narrow-minded about religion, and to generalize all religions is just playing wrong to begin with.
As for the topic question, I don't think it matters, if you love someone, it's not really a huge issue, but out of respect you could have them convert or you could convert, maybe if they ask. If you truly love someone, you will do anything for them.
You know I dont know if it is just me, but the instant I read that the first thing that came to my mind is how narrow minded that is.Gozen wrote:I wouldn't marry anybody who seriously followed any religion at all. If they follow a religion, they are almost inevitably intolerant, brain-washed, unrealistic, narrow-minded and, with some religions, cruel.
Let me clear one thing up about atheism. In its simple form, the basic belief in spirituality is looked upon a being totally illogical. That is why the XBox analogy is not only correct, but yes if a person believes in spirituality, then the atheist will react negatively, and with vigor. That is why a spiritual person should not waste his time explaining his position.Aulcard wrote:I mean seriously. That is like saying I met a guy once who owned an XBox. He was a jerk. Therefore by my sound reasoning, all XBox owners are jerks. By the way I am totally tolerant, realistic and open minded.
EDIT: Of course I was wasting my time in posting this. Obvious Gozen is a hardcore athiest, and with extreme attitudes like his he wont listen. Hardcore types never listed.
Yeah I am sorry about my rant. I normally never post in religious threads. I was not trying to defend either religion or athiesm, I was trying to point out how much I hate threads like this and how retarded people on both sides can behave. Mostly I get tired of how any thread that has the word 'religion' in it ends up being totally derailed by people who will take any opportunity to bash religion rather than stay on topic. Eg someone says 'I have a christian girlfriend and I am not a christian, it is causing problems but I really love her and want to work things out' quickly turns from 'you may have to break up with her because of unreconcilable differences' into 'F**K THAT **** SHE IS STUPID ALL RELIGION IS GAY'. Of course here I am, derailing this very thread, which makes me feel a bit stupid.groink wrote: Let me clear one thing up about atheism. In its simple form, the basic belief in spirituality is looked upon a being totally illogical. That is why the XBox analogy is not only correct, but yes if a person believes in spirituality, then the atheist will react negatively, and with vigor. That is why a spiritual person should not waste his time explaining his position.
Before government took over the duty of handling marriages, marriages was purely a religious custom. Because the word "marriage" and "religion" are the themes of this topic, it gives even non-believers like atheists a right to chime and counter even the thought of religion. This is why I'm totally against any discussions of religion and/or its customs on a public form like D-Addicts
what do you mean?Atomic wrote:No.. because I'm one of those people who don't really believe in anything, and I tend to make A LOT of jokes on people who pray at imaginary objects, and dead people..
Don't get me started on countires, or people who use god as an excuse to start war or create terror....
making fun of people's religions isn't cool dude. it's disrespectful regardless of your beliefs.Atomic wrote:No.. because I'm one of those people who don't really believe in anything, and I tend to make A LOT of jokes on people who pray at imaginary objects, and dead people..
Don't get me started on countires, or people who use god as an excuse to start war or create terror....
In a sense, we are talking about different religions in regards to relationships. I'm Taoist/Buddhist and most of the people I know who are in the same religion as me, are more than willing to marry someone of a different faith. I don't know of too many Buddhists who marry each other - in my experience, they tend to be involved in relationships with people who are Christians, Protestants, etc. However from my experience, I know quite a number of acquintances who follow Islam and only one married outside of his faith (but even then before marriage his wife converted to Islam in order to marry him)...I do believe the people who are willing to marry outside of their faith depends on their faith. The chances that a person who believes in Islam will marry a Buddhist, Catholic, Baptist, etc. are extremely slim compare to a Christian marrying a Catholic.arabian wrote:When i post this topic i want only to know the defferent view for people not to compare between religion or talk about religion because they are here religious people and some are not..
So, i will appreciate if you just gays talk about the main topic not about religions ..
( sorry for my poor english)..
first, thank you for your comment..GhstDreamer wrote:In a sense, we are talking about different religions in regards to relationships. I'm Taoist/Buddhist and most of the people I know who are in the same religion as me, are more than willing to marry someone of a different faith. I don't know of too many Buddhists who marry each other - in my experience, they tend to be involved in relationships with people who are Christians, Protestants, etc. However from my experience, I know quite a number of acquintances who follow Islam and only one married outside of his faith (but even then before marriage his wife converted to Islam in order to marry him)...I do believe the people who are willing to marry outside of their faith depends on their faith. The chances that a person who believes in Islam will marry a Buddhist, Catholic, Baptist, etc. are extremely slim compare to a Christian marrying a Catholic.arabian wrote:When i post this topic i want only to know the defferent view for people not to compare between religion or talk about religion because they are here religious people and some are not..
So, i will appreciate if you just gays talk about the main topic not about religions ..
( sorry for my poor english)..
something tough? arabian we all know that muslim girls "can't" get married to non-muslims lol so it's not an option for it to be "hard" or "tough".. and for a girl from the UAE,you shouldn't be worried about the religion,worry about the country lol I know I'd get killed if I got married to someone from another country even if he was a muslim. so sorry but you've started a subject that u can not relate to at all (and which you obviously have a clear answer for)arabian wrote: that's my view as i live in country all of them are muslim so it's little strange to me to married somone from defferent country.. so, how it will if it's from defferent religion it's something tough ..
Romance wrote:i dont give a **** about religions and different countries, im in love with a japanese girl and she loves me, we are perfect for eachother, one girl, one boy. we will probably marry in the future
hence why I wouldn't marry someone who actually prays and believes in something, casue I know i'd say something insulting to them, or her parents..nikochanr3 wrote:making fun of people's religions isn't cool dude. it's disrespectful regardless of your beliefs.Atomic wrote:No.. because I'm one of those people who don't really believe in anything, and I tend to make A LOT of jokes on people who pray at imaginary objects, and dead people..
Don't get me started on countires, or people who use god as an excuse to start war or create terror....
arabian wrote:what do you mean?Atomic wrote:No.. because I'm one of those people who don't really believe in anything, and I tend to make A LOT of jokes on people who pray at imaginary objects, and dead people..
Don't get me started on countires, or people who use god as an excuse to start war or create terror....![]()
don't start anything & if you don't believe in anything so, you have to respect other people feeling who are religious or believe in god (Allah)..
dude, saying I MAKE FUN OF PEOPLE WHO PRAY TO IMAGINARY OBJECTS AND DEAD PEOPLE is just not polite. You must know that....no hate...its just not nice and not helpful to a discussion. a discussion where most people probably do believe in something.Atomic wrote:hence why I wouldn't marry someone who actually prays and believes in something, casue I know i'd say something insulting to them, or her parents..nikochanr3 wrote:making fun of people's religions isn't cool dude. it's disrespectful regardless of your beliefs.Atomic wrote:No.. because I'm one of those people who don't really believe in anything, and I tend to make A LOT of jokes on people who pray at imaginary objects, and dead people..
Don't get me started on countires, or people who use god as an excuse to start war or create terror....
Guy I know it's not nice. I just cant help it.. It's like having tourrets syndrome only it's targeted at religious people. I think it's because of the 19 years of catholic upbrining I had growing up.. 19 years of catholic school should turn any sane person in to a sarcastic prick..nikochanr3 wrote:dude, saying I MAKE FUN OF PEOPLE WHO PRAY TO IMAGINARY OBJECTS AND DEAD PEOPLE is just not polite. You must know that....no hate...its just not nice and not helpful to a discussion. a discussion where most people probably do believe in something.Atomic wrote:hence why I wouldn't marry someone who actually prays and believes in something, casue I know i'd say something insulting to them, or her parents..nikochanr3 wrote:
making fun of people's religions isn't cool dude. it's disrespectful regardless of your beliefs.
هلا فيج حبيبتي انا اعرف اني كبنت مسلمة ما اقدر اتزوج من غير مسلم وهذا طبعا شي من المستحيل ارضى فيه على نفسي بس تعالي فهمي هذيلا اللي يتحرون المسلمين ارهابيين ..CraZyaH wrote:something tough? arabian we all know that muslim girls "can't" get married to non-muslims lol so it's not an option for it to be "hard" or "tough".. and for a girl from the UAE,you shouldn't be worried about the religion,worry about the country lol I know I'd get killed if I got married to someone from another country even if he was a muslim. so sorry but you've started a subject that u can not relate to at all (and which you obviously have a clear answer for)arabian wrote: that's my view as i live in country all of them are muslim so it's little strange to me to married somone from defferent country.. so, how it will if it's from defferent religion it's something tough ..
وبعدين الناس ما تصدق اهنيه يوم حد يبدا يتكلم عن الدين، ناقصين سب نحن هههه
edit : When I said "killed",I was only exaggerating,lol I know some people would actually believe it since we're already known to be "terrorists" lol
Totally so. I would not convert to any religion because that would mean pretending for the sake of .. ? what? I will not pretend that I believe in any god... for anybody.6502inside wrote:Then douglas2k6 wrote: "If you truly love someone, you will do anything for them." I sometimes wonder about what things I wouldn't do for somebody that I adore but at this moment I realized that pretending to believe in a religion is one of them. .
I agreed with your commentsKuroRyu wrote:Imo, religion has many interpretations and thus levels/methods of practice. For some ppl. it's just something they were born into and grow out of. While others have it integrated in their lifestyle and therefore somewhat in their personality and way of thinking (which I find important as an important trait when deciding to spend the rest of your life with a certain person). On the other hand, I think that every1 is a person b4 a follower of a religion, not the other way around. So if you love a certain person, then what he/she believes in should be part of what you find attractive in that person. And if that isn't the case, then you're not looking "deep" enough.
Also, the requirement of faith in atheism is something I cannot understand. This is because atheism requires the follower to understand facts through logic and scientific methods whilst religion is only based solely on faith. Religion claims to be perfect and complete whereas science claims to be imperfect (no such thing as ultimate truth, only to take steps to get closer to it). Although I do agree that absence of proof is not proof of absence, but at the same time it doesnt mean that for instance if the answer isn't "A" it has to be "B", it's ok not to know for sure (maybe that's what life is about..)![]()
And now I'm gonna go and do my hmwrk.....damn school... :
Just wanted to say that it's not that we can't marry a non-muslim person it's simply because of the fact that only the father can pass his religion to his children. At least that's what i've heard from my mother when we discussed the subject. But since you can convert later i don't see any problem, if your child is not from the same religion as you in the beginning. At least you're sure that if he does it's really because he's got faith in it. On the contrary it's women who pass it when you're jewish.CraZyaH wrote:something tough? arabian we all know that muslim girls "can't" get married to non-muslims lol so it's not an option for it to be "hard" or "tough".. and for a girl from the UAE,you shouldn't be worried about the religion,worry about the country lol I know I'd get killed if I got married to someone from another country even if he was a muslim. so sorry but you've started a subject that u can not relate to at all (and which you obviously have a clear answer for)arabian wrote: that's my view as i live in country all of them are muslim so it's little strange to me to married somone from defferent country.. so, how it will if it's from defferent religion it's something tough ..
وبعدين الناس ما تصدق اهنيه يوم حد يبدا يتكلم عن الدين، ناقصين سب نحن هههه
edit : When I said "killed",I was only exaggerating,lol I know some people would actually believe it since we're already known to be "terrorists" lol
Well no need for me to quote what she answered me in her pm, no need to waste time and energy with people like this. As I told her thanks god we're 6 billions on this Earth, probability of meeting her or somebody like this in real life is not really high.If they follow a religion, they are almost inevitably intolerant, brain-washed, unrealistic, narrow-minded and, with some religions, cruel. Their parents are likely to be even worse. For me, religion = bad attitude to everyone who doesn't follow it, and most especially religion = anti-woman.
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