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Post by blamvitaburst » Nov 16th, '06, 15:25

Néa Vanille is like a genius. She said it better than I ever could, and had empirical evidence to back her stuff up. Awesome!
I think what could be going on here is the fact that a lot of the people who go overseas are already kind of adventurous, and then if "hooking up" with an Asian woman is something they have as a goal they're going to go that much harder after it. Asian men who live in Asia or American men who live in America (or whoever makes a home wherever, really) are probably not going to be as much on the prowl while at home as a guy whose goal in travelling (or at least one of his goals) is to score. There're probably plenty of guys who go to Japan and never get laid. Also, this entire thing applies to women too. I know tons of girls who would jump at the chance of going to Japan just to find some hot Asians. *shrugs* But here they don't actively pursue anyone very often and therefore aren't always getting laid.
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Post by nikochanr3 » Nov 16th, '06, 15:38

Néa Vanille wrote:Romance means that there are 100 mixed couples for every 10 million Japanese couples, not that on the whole planet are only 100 guys who were with a Japanese woman.

Though 10 million is definitely exaggerated, I've witnessed the same in Korea. I've seen maybe 3 or 4 white guys with Korean girls the entire time I lived there, and, excluding myself, 2 white girls with Korean guys (but my boyfriend thinks they might have been prostitutes) but thousands of really trendy, good-looking Korean couples. But then, the number of foreigners is a lot lower in Korea than in Japan.

I've been to Japan, but not really long enough to get a lot of insight into their society. I don't really think that girls fall into your lap just because you're white, though - I think that would be pretty damn sad and with all due respect, to say that any foreigner can get girls in Japan doesn't... suggest you have a very high opinion of Japanese women. I have 2 friends who went to Japan and didn't hook up - one had a girlfriend at home in France and the other was too shy (and I guess not really interested in the girls there).

To sum it up, I don't think Japan is girls-fall-from-the-sky-onto-any-white-guy's-joystick land, nor do I think it's a bad or particularly racist environment for white people. Guys who are okay with girls get a gaijin-boost, guys who are socially awkward at home will be socially akward there.
i didnt say they fall into your laps. just the 10 per 10 million is ridiculous. ive been there 22 times, probably over a year in total, and ive seen a hell of a lot of mixed couples. to make it sound like its so rare is just wrong. im not implying anything about anyone, just that its not as rare as he's making it sound in the post, not even close.

note, i said nothing about GETTING LAID. im not sure whos boinking who. but if you did just a count of foreigner guys walking with japanese girls, its not 10 in 10 million. you see it all the time.
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Post by Néa Vanille » Nov 16th, '06, 15:49

He said 100 in 10 million, not 10 in 10 million. And yes, it's exaggerated, but I still agree with him that mixed couples are rare in comparison to Japanese couples. Maybe it's what Sartre called 'selective visuals'? You see what's important to you, meaning every single mixed couples you see weighs much more heavily on your mind, and you overlook other couples. It's like you go into a café wanting to meet a blind date who agreed to come with a rose, and when you enter you start seeing many guys with roses, ignoring that there are more guys without them, because the guys with roses are what's important to you. Blame Sartre if you think it's BS. :whistling:

I guess it also heavily depends on where you go in Japan, though. There will be a lot fewer mixed couples in the business districts than in the entertainment districts. It would be interesting to see statistics on how many Japanese women are dating foreigners and how many are dating Japanese men (in Japan, Japanese-American women (and men, too) are outmarrying like whoa), I still think the ratio would be like 1: at least a thousand. Japan is just still a very homogenous country and many of the mixed couples walking around might not even be dating, just having a fling as someone suggested was very common for travellers.

Edit: yes, I know you didn't mean 'fall into their laps'.. but you did make it sound a little like you thought ANY foreigner could get women in Japan, which is an opinion I don't quite like. Maybe I'm just damaged, though, because I've been on too many message boards on which Japanese women were called 'easy' and 'slutty', so now it just kind of disgruntles me to read posts that could imply something similar. Well, I think everybody on this board knows I have a real passion for defending women and women's rights. :mrgreen:
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Post by nikochanr3 » Nov 16th, '06, 16:03

Néa Vanille wrote:He said 100 in 10 million, not 10 in 10 million. And yes, it's exaggerated, but I still agree with him that mixed couples are rare in comparison to Japanese couples. Maybe it's what Sartre called 'selective visuals'? You see what's important to you, meaning every single mixed couples you see weighs much more heavily on your mind, and you overlook other couples. It's like you go into a café wanting to meet a blind date who agreed to come with a rose, and when you enter you start seeing many guys with roses, ignoring that there are more guys without them, because the guys with roses are what's important to you. Blame Sartre if you think it's BS. :whistling:

I guess it also heavily depends on where you go in Japan, though. There will be a lot fewer mixed couples in the business districts than in the entertainment districts. It would be interesting to see statistics on how many Japanese women are dating foreigners and how many are dating Japanese men (in Japan, Japanese-American women (and men, too) are outmarrying like whoa), I still think the ratio would be like 1: several thousand. Japan is just still a very homogenous country and many of the mixed couples walking around might not even be dating, just having a fling as someone suggested was very common for travellers.

Edit: yes, I know you didn't mean 'fall into their laps'.. but you did make it sound a little like you thought ANY foreigner could get women in Japan, which is an opinion I don't quite like. Maybe I'm just damaged, though, because I've been on too many message boards on which Japanese women were called 'easy' and 'slutty', so now it just kind of disgruntles me to read posts that could imply something similar. Well, I think everybody on this board knows I have a real passion for defending women and women's rights. :mrgreen:
nah, thats not me. i apoligize HIGHLY if you thought that. Japanese woman are different from other woman in that they are...........................japanese. :lol there are big ones, small ones, slutty ones, conservative ones, on and on. i think the perception of japanese women comes from the fact they have trouble saying no. like, if you ask them for coffee and they hate you, they'll say, UM...maybe next tuesday....(of course next tuesday they say, UM MAYBE THURSDAY). i know first hand, my wife is quiet and conservative, mixed with loud and agressive. and angry! and much more outgoing and fun than me. and she's japanese and im spanish. :lol Read this board sometimes, its funny. Its like I WISH I MET A JAPANESE GIRL, EVERY GIRL IN NY IS SNOBBY. its like huh? 10 million girls, every conceivable shape, color and personality, all the same, not like those nice japanese girls. :lol

i just know me and my wife always marvel over the number of mixed couples while we are in japan, so when someone says its so rare its like huh??? :scratch: :P that was my only point. i dont like points proven by made up facts.
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Post by Néa Vanille » Nov 16th, '06, 16:12

So let's agree that mixed couples in Japan are rare compared to Japanese couples, but that mixed couples in Japan are very common compared to other Asian countries. :lol

And yes, about that NY thing, I've noticed that, too. Men are either, "OMG, Japanese girls are so CUTE and SWEET and QUIET" or it's, "Japanese girls are easy, materialistic sluts." There's no middle ground (or reality) for some people.

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Post by nikochanr3 » Nov 16th, '06, 16:25

Néa Vanille wrote:So let's agree that mixed couples in Japan are rare compared to Japanese couples, but that mixed couples in Japan are very common compared to other Asian countries. :lol

And yes, about that NY thing, I've noticed that, too. Men are either, "OMG, Japanese girls are so CUTE and SWEET and QUIET" or it's, "Japanese girls are easy, materialistic sluts." There's no middle ground (or reality) for some people.
i often go to get lunch at a japanese deli or look around the japanese bookstore, and the guys are embarassing. they hit on the girls, but lamely, like waving their hand will work. HEY, IM A STRANGER IN THE STREET BUT IM WHITE, LETS GO HAVE SEX! :P not exactly, but you get the point.

:cussing: i almost want to go apoligize for my bretheren's (did i massacre that?) stupidity.

my wife gets that at work too, but she's very blunt. :lol she shatters people's perceptions real quick (i'm married, you know? what's wrong with you? go away!) :P ahh 'she's just great...
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Post by kotaeshiranaihito » Nov 16th, '06, 16:44

Just out of curiosity how would you approach those japanese girls if you were still single.

From what you said before, you weren't exactly Mr. smooth when getting your wife were you?

Instead of judging those guys so harshly you should be pitying them since they are obviously lousy when it comes to talking to girls.

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Post by nikochanr3 » Nov 16th, '06, 17:01

kotaeshiranaihito wrote:Just out of curiosity how would you approach those japanese girls if you were still single.

From what you said before, you weren't exactly Mr. smooth when getting your wife were you?

Instead of judging those guys so harshly you should be pitying them since they are obviously lousy when it comes to talking to girls.
nah, i dont think its they dont have game. i think they think the japanese girls are so easy that any approach will do. id never decry anyones failure, i think its more like" OOH A RANDOM JAPANESE GIRL. i can get her by snapping my fingers twice in a masculine white way" my wife gets approached like that all the time in random places. as if she, as a japanese woman, is just waiting for guys to talk to her.

its not the approach, just the total lack of respect behind it. :lol trust me, ive approached in ways i thought were cool and got so thorougly WHACKED down that id never make fun of someone failing.... :lol things i stil cringe at to this day...
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Post by warlock110 » Nov 16th, '06, 17:45

lol, they film this at UCSD...

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Post by jholic » Nov 17th, '06, 01:54

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Post by hyperoxic » Nov 17th, '06, 11:03

monkeymachine wrote:LOL!! .. thanks for the link, loved the video. same deal here in australia
yeah.. i'm seeing it more and more in Melbourne. It's already a norm in Sydney. The new 'mixed' race is taking over the woooORLD!!! It's a conspiracy! hehehe

As for the Japanese are easy comment, it's probably because the ones you meet are the one's that are making themselves available and not shy about it. But that means you never see the 80% of other Japanese girls who aren't that way. Maybe it's not 80/20 but I'm just saying that just because the mars probe landed in the middle of the desert, doesn't mean that mars is majority dry.

Sure, all the jap girls I've met are easy because I met them in bars and clubs. But the cute jap girl in the library... that might be a different story.

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Post by nikochanr3 » Nov 17th, '06, 11:45

JAPanese. JAP isn't nice, its a slur. like LETS GET THEM DAMN JAPS. we really shouldnt say it.

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Post by Kibako » Nov 18th, '06, 11:02

I personally don't think it really matters. I like japanese women but that probably because I'm studying the language and the culture and have that as a commonality. But I've had a white gf, hispanic gf, and a asian gf before (not in that order) and I think most people can agree once you've dated someone for a while it stops being about ethnicity or looks and becomes something more. I mean people are people right. If some girl/guy is obnoxious, obsesive, and won't shut up your not going to go out with them regardless of what ethnicity they are. (unless you like that sort of thing)
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Post by yieebo » Nov 18th, '06, 17:55

think about it, if you are willing to travel beyond, outside your own country, or frequent areas within your country that have a high traffic of foreigners etc... that pretty much defines you as an extroverted racial type, you want to explore outside your own race and culture. also, it seems odd that people don't see the blatant Darwinian aspect about it all, some people just look at it like a choice about their DNA, i like this about white people, i like this about Japanese people, so i'll get married and have interesting genes, "lets see what happens!"

about the slutty this, whores that nonsense, every single nation has a certain percentage of desperate people, who are willing to do anything to get out of a particular situation that fate has placed them in. i always laugh when i hear my fellow americans take the moral high ground regarding sexuality lol, like we don't have porn industry gone wild in the US? LOL every type of vile sexual deviancy is going on in america as well, and it's a huge business obviously. whether it's illegal, or legal.

anyway, i don't even know what this thread is supposed to be about.

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Post by Kibako » Nov 18th, '06, 22:49

Yeah niko's right, I'm sure it was't done intentionally but to all those people who are unsure or don't know heres what the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary says
Main Entry: Jap Pronunciation: 'jap Function: noun or adjective usually disparaging : JAPANESE
disparaging means to depreciate or to degrade.
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