Ha ha....we are very creative when we're young!OvertheRainbow wrote:Lol..I did that too!!!!! I wasn't allowed to cut anything so that was the only way I could make the costume look right...LolPraye wrote:
Hahaha... and don't forget, we did the costume thingy as well, i wore my mommy's dresses and took a rope tied it at waistline... that was the only way I knew who to get those long sleeves
Good times...Good times
It's ok, my vietnamese sucks. I can speak and understand, but heck I can read or write. I've been going to vietnamese school for like 4 years? Ehh, oh well. That's what I get for sleeping in class.mist1105 wrote:oh wow! how awesome! there are people here from the 626 area!! xD I am too! Shouts to all the viet peeps!
i feel terrible though.. cuz my viet is really butchered.. i sound like a two year old kid.. probably worse. but anywho, proud of my roots nonetheless.
họ ko share softsub nữa thôi , bạn muốn xem phim thì vào iuphimhan.com họ vẫn làm hardsub việt đầy đủ đấy .bosate wrote:gởi becu và các bạn của Team iuphimhan :
mình có 1 thắc mắc ko nhỏ, mong các bạn trả lơì cho mình nhé .
gần đây mình thấy các bạn rất cố gắng dịch sang tiếng việt nhiều bộ fim bằng soft sub . Đây là một điều rất may mắn cho các fans VN cuñg như gia đình của họ . Mình thành thật cám ơn các bạn và luôn ủng hộ tất cả được mọi điều như ý . Thắc mắc của mình là có nhưñg bộ như "the love to kill" hay "goong" ... đã có 1 thơì gian rồi hình như bị "đóng băng" trong khi đó các bộ fim mới lại được dịch ra ko ít .
Vậy có fải :
- các bạn ko muốn tiếp tục dịch nhưñg bộ fim kể trên ko ?
- hoặc là các bạn đã quên ?
- hoặc là các bạn vẫn còn trong thơì gian làm sub ?
Mong rằng các bạn đừng hiểu lầm là mình muốn hối thúc các bạn vì mình chắc chắn việc làm sub rất vất vả .
Lol^^ Of course we're all viet..it is a forum for Viet communityla_piscine wrote:chao
hi everyone, i'm new here in this forum. nice to meet all of you. i guess we're all viet here?.. cool cool... i'm lucky i can still talk, read, and write viet... it's nice. where is the 626 area? hehe. im just curious. im in the 415 area thats in SF.
I used to always go to Quicklys but one time after I drank boba there I felt real sick. So I don't go to Quicklys fearing that I'll feel sick/throw up againdebstuh wrote:Tapioca Express? ohh...i used to go there when it first opened, but then the prices are all that for the drinks. i love Quicklys more. i think the price is worth it for the drink itself. and the spicy chicken is yummy! haha i might be heading down to the 626 area tomorrow! =D ahh i missed it. haha go do a quicklys run. lolLdyKlutzy wrote:I remember I walked to Quicklys with my cousin and it was such an awesome time xD. It's ok if you miss the 626 area. I don't go to Quicklys that much anymore. I mostly go to Tapioca Express since I live so close to it.
Only happened to you once? If it happened more then once.....then yea, its a good idea not to go to that same place twice. I would go there again if it happened just once, just to make sure if it was just a coincidence that I got sick from drinkin there bobasLdyKlutzy wrote: I used to always go to Quicklys but one time after I drank boba there I felt real sick. So I don't go to Quicklys fearing that I'll feel sick/throw up again
Only other place left for me is Q-cup cause I got no idea where Tapioca is....I think its downtown San Jose for me, but I'd just get lost there 
K.T.Tran wrote:Only happened to you once? If it happened more then once.....then yea, its a good idea not to go to that same place twice. I would go there again if it happened just once, just to make sure if it was just a coincidence that I got sick from drinkin there bobasLdyKlutzy wrote: I used to always go to Quicklys but one time after I drank boba there I felt real sick. So I don't go to Quicklys fearing that I'll feel sick/throw up again
But thats me.
I don't know if the Quickly's up near De Anza college is closing down, it would suck big time if it is
Ah De Anza... Good times... Studying there now? Glad I'm outta there.K.T.Tran wrote: I don't know if the Quickly's up near De Anza college is closing down, it would suck big time if it is
I didn't think Vietnam has its own drama. I thought they just dub Chinese and Korean dramas...mrvw0169 wrote:Hey everyone... first time I saw this thread... I'm Viet too... spending waaay too much time watching these dramas... hehe...
Just wondering... anywhere we can get Viet drama (download would be nice - on student budget =P)? Just curious about Viet culture today and all. Not the super old Chinese Kung-fu badly dubbed series (I've seen too many of those)... But real "modern" Viet dramas or maybe even Viet dubbed Japanese/Korean/Chinese dramas? *shrug*
Ah De Anza... Good times... Studying there now? Glad I'm outta there.
There's a buncha places in Cupertino to get your boba fix! Tapioca Express is right next to Marina Food (right at De Anza/Stevens Creek) at the far left of the Asian plaza - I think it's that plaza... Haven't been there since Verde Cafe opened (Blaney/Stevens Creek - it's the next street after De Anza Blvd going down Stevens Creek away from De Anza) cause for buying $5 or more, you get a buy 1 get 1 free coupon for the next drink (yeah yeah, I'm cheap)... Then there's Fantasia in the same Ranch 99 plaza as Q-Cup or down by Santana Row... or Lollicup next to the Long's Drugs if you go further down Stevens Creek (in the plaza with Elephant Bar) - you get a 10% discount with De Anza card too (haha, that's like .50)...
They got dramas, even though the storyline is not good compared to others, but since thres nothin else to watch, u just gotto watch it. Sum dramas are ok imo.mrvw0169 wrote:lol yeah... I'm actually curious if Vietnam has dramas... I'm sure they do... I mean, they got to have television and some shows right?? But all I ever see are the dubbed Chinese kung fu movies/series... Once I saw a Chinese or Japanese one dubbed (this was when I was 12 or something)... called Mind Games? that was pretty cool because I could understand it and it was in "today's time" and for once non-kung fu... just wondering if there's something like that available... *shrug*
Agreed... Foothill is MUCH nicer... so green and relaxing! That and the classes are easier, especially the physics/math... That's cool you're learning Japanese... I only took 1 year in HS after being tired of 3 years of Spanish... wish I had the time to seriously learn Japanese... probably should work on my Vietnamese too ;-)... Stupid school is drowning me in midterms every week so I barely have time to do anything fun!
Yeah whenever you're bored, Verde's a cool place to hang out and if you feel nerdy, they got free wireless too lol... But I only go because of the Buy one get one free coupons and it's not bad at all ;-D
Aren't we still considered a 3rd world country? Of course, the dramas won't be as developed as Japan or South Korea because they are a modern society while we're still trying to get into the WTOyuna67 wrote:i have a viet channel that shows viet drama, and what i've seen is not very interresting. I don't know if it's because of the rather bad production quality compared to korean and japanese drama or because of the actors and actresses who are, to my mind, not very good,
well i'm not critizin' the vietnameese since i'm too but i think viet drama has to work very hard to be able to be comperd to japan and korean dram
But we have time. vietnam is still a poor country but i believe that it will get rich very soon and we will be able to watch very good viet drama
I was thinking the same thing after watching soo many kdramas and doramas.... I think that we all should step up and create an awesome viet drama... who's in? hahahaOvertheRainbow wrote:Aren't we still considered a 3rd world country? Of course, the dramas won't be as developed as Japan or South Korea because they are a modern society while we're still trying to get into the WTOyuna67 wrote:i have a viet channel that shows viet drama, and what i've seen is not very interresting. I don't know if it's because of the rather bad production quality compared to korean and japanese drama or because of the actors and actresses who are, to my mind, not very good,
well i'm not critizin' the vietnameese since i'm too but i think viet drama has to work very hard to be able to be comperd to japan and korean dram
But we have time. vietnam is still a poor country but i believe that it will get rich very soon and we will be able to watch very good viet drama
Okay, my mistake. According to some global census, Vietnam is still considered a third world country, (as it is still developing), but it is not as dependent as say, Cambodia--which was the example I was going to use for a third world country. The differences are fairly distinct.yuna67 wrote:Aren't we still considered a 3rd world country? Of course, the dramas won't be as developed as Japan or South Korea because they are a modern society while we're still trying to get into the WTO
First Hi all Vietnamese!! I live in Vietnam!! I was interested when I see you guys' convo!! I think Vietnamese actress are uglie!! (sorrie! but it's true) and we dont have a lot of actresses and actors like Korean!! our best actress are My Duyen I guess! 'cause I saw her on some movie!!!!! Vietnamese actresses and actor cant really act!!!! ehhh aniwaiz... I dont think they have Vietnamese drama in next 10 years!!Praye wrote:I was thinking the same thing after watching soo many kdramas and doramas.... I think that we all should step up and create an awesome viet drama... who's in? hahahaOvertheRainbow wrote:Aren't we still considered a 3rd world country? Of course, the dramas won't be as developed as Japan or South Korea because they are a modern society while we're still trying to get into the WTOyuna67 wrote:i have a viet channel that shows viet drama, and what i've seen is not very interresting. I don't know if it's because of the rather bad production quality compared to korean and japanese drama or because of the actors and actresses who are, to my mind, not very good,
well i'm not critizin' the vietnameese since i'm too but i think viet drama has to work very hard to be able to be comperd to japan and korean dram
But we have time. vietnam is still a poor country but i believe that it will get rich very soon and we will be able to watch very good viet drama
anibodie agree wit me?? 
i don't really agree with you !MissDinh wrote:First Hi all Vietnamese!! I live in Vietnam!! I was interested when I see you guys' convo!! I think Vietnamese actress are uglie!! (sorrie! but it's true) and we dont have a lot of actresses and actors like Korean!! our best actress are My Duyen I guess! 'cause I saw her on some movie!!!!! Vietnamese actresses and actor cant really act!!!! ehhh aniwaiz... I dont think they have Vietnamese drama in next 10 years!!Praye wrote:I was thinking the same thing after watching soo many kdramas and doramas.... I think that we all should step up and create an awesome viet drama... who's in? hahahaOvertheRainbow wrote:
Aren't we still considered a 3rd world country? Of course, the dramas won't be as developed as Japan or South Korea because they are a modern society while we're still trying to get into the WTO
sorrie if I made mistake when I am talkin' here because I dont know alot of English1!
OMG!! you are hella wrong when you think Vietnamese actresses dont put make up on their face!! there was a accident caused a artist of Vietnamese traditional music (cai luong) dead! because she went to some place to whitening her skin! Vietnamese dont do alot of surgery it's not because they dont want to... it's just because it's dangerous to do in Vietnam!! we dont have a lot of professonal doctors like Krn or Japanese!! and one main point is Vietnamese actresses and actors are not really popular in Vietnamyuna67 wrote:i don't really agree with you !MissDinh wrote:First Hi all Vietnamese!! I live in Vietnam!! I was interested when I see you guys' convo!! I think Vietnamese actress are uglie!! (sorrie! but it's true) and we dont have a lot of actresses and actors like Korean!! our best actress are My Duyen I guess! 'cause I saw her on some movie!!!!! Vietnamese actresses and actor cant really act!!!! ehhh aniwaiz... I dont think they have Vietnamese drama in next 10 years!!Praye wrote:
I was thinking the same thing after watching soo many kdramas and doramas.... I think that we all should step up and create an awesome viet drama... who's in? hahaha
sorrie if I made mistake when I am talkin' here because I dont know alot of English1!
vietnameses acrtessese don't put tons of make up on heir face, they are really more natural than korean one.
if i have to compare, i would say that vietnamese actresses are prettier than the others (chinese, japanese, korean) since they all used surgery!!!!
hahah look like u guys can go on and on.MissDinh wrote:OMG!! you are hella wrong when you think Vietnamese actresses dont put make up on their face!! there was a accident caused a artist of Vietnamese traditional music (cai luong) dead! because she went to some place to whitening her skin! Vietnamese dont do alot of surgery it's not because they dont want to... it's just because it's dangerous to do in Vietnam!! we dont have a lot of professonal doctors like Krn or Japanese!! and one main point is Vietnamese actresses and actors are not really popular in Vietnamyuna67 wrote:i don't really agree with you !MissDinh wrote:
First Hi all Vietnamese!! I live in Vietnam!! I was interested when I see you guys' convo!! I think Vietnamese actress are uglie!! (sorrie! but it's true) and we dont have a lot of actresses and actors like Korean!! our best actress are My Duyen I guess! 'cause I saw her on some movie!!!!! Vietnamese actresses and actor cant really act!!!! ehhh aniwaiz... I dont think they have Vietnamese drama in next 10 years!!
sorrie if I made mistake when I am talkin' here because I dont know alot of English1!
vietnameses acrtessese don't put tons of make up on heir face, they are really more natural than korean one.
if i have to compare, i would say that vietnamese actresses are prettier than the others (chinese, japanese, korean) since they all used surgery!!!!
Umm just to note Paris By Night and Asia are Vietnamese music shows however they do not work with the Vietnamese government.. actually they're the opposite and they are made in the US, Canada,Austrialia etc..., so we can't count them in with the Vietnamese programs that they show in Vietnam. B/c showing Paris by Night or Asia in Vietnam is illegal. Well ofcourse they have those Dvds over there but they're all blackmarket stuff... if the Vietnamese government finds out they will get arrested.MooL wrote:Okay, my mistake. According to some global census, Vietnam is still considered a third world country, (as it is still developing), but it is not as dependent as say, Cambodia--which was the example I was going to use for a third world country. The differences are fairly distinct.yuna67 wrote:Aren't we still considered a 3rd world country? Of course, the dramas won't be as developed as Japan or South Korea because they are a modern society while we're still trying to get into the WTO
I'm not quite sure Vietnam is ready to produce drama. Gameshows and quizbowls..sure. Soccer, ok. Variety shows and musicals, no problem. Think of ParisByNight and Asia fame. But drama is kind of..out of VN's league. =\
It's fairly pathetic. So, I think in a few decades, that industry will involve, and it'll get better.
I'll just read what they have to say. Good stufflaydee wrote: hahah look like u guys can go on and on.
no seeds left for the remaining i don't know how many eps i need.I went to vietnam over my winter break in December. It was quite enlightening. My image of Vietnam definately changed. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.mist1105 wrote:it's such a shame that Vietnam is considered a developing country, but it's no surprise there. Being vietnamese, I'm kind of scared to goto Vietnam because I don't want to see people on the streets. It makes me depressed seeing this. I feel useless enough as it is, knowing that I'm living in the U.S.A. practically in the lap of luxury doesn't make me feel any better.
I doubt the chance will come anytime soon. Perhaps after college with my dad or something. x) Glad to see someone else from Southern Cali is up, haha. I havent been able to sleep cuz im waiting for Meteor Garden II to finish downloadingK.T.Tran wrote:I went to vietnam over my winter break in December. It was quite enlightening. My image of Vietnam definately changed. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.mist1105 wrote:it's such a shame that Vietnam is considered a developing country, but it's no surprise there. Being vietnamese, I'm kind of scared to goto Vietnam because I don't want to see people on the streets. It makes me depressed seeing this. I feel useless enough as it is, knowing that I'm living in the U.S.A. practically in the lap of luxury doesn't make me feel any better.
When you do get the chance to go to Vietnam, do take it.
Didn't think San Jose was part of Southern Cali.......oh well.mist1105 wrote: I doubt the chance will come anytime soon. Perhaps after college with my dad or something. x) Glad to see someone else from Southern Cali is up, haha. I havent been able to sleep cuz im waiting for Meteor Garden II to finish downloading
lol you're right x) it's not part of southern cali haha, my bad. i read it wrong. xD i was on spring break.. last week. haha. i have a short day, and since i get to come to skool later, i'll just catch a nap when i come home x)K.T.Tran wrote:Didn't think San Jose was part of Southern Cali.......oh well.mist1105 wrote: I doubt the chance will come anytime soon. Perhaps after college with my dad or something. x) Glad to see someone else from Southern Cali is up, haha. I havent been able to sleep cuz im waiting for Meteor Garden II to finish downloading
After college?? Vietnam should be pretty well developed by then. At least I hope.
You're on spring break or something? Up this late waiting for your drama to finish dling
Hopefully its almost done dling so you could at least get 1 episode in before sleeping
Ha..ha.. I have to agree with you on that...I always tell my friends" Hay~ bao? trong." when we were leaving.... and the word they use to ask the girl to marry is" em ga? cho anh di " I said to myself....what the heck is he talking about?????mangosteen wrote:It's so funny to say "Tu biet" and "Huynh, Muoi" ;) I don't think it's a good way to learn Vietnamese from dubbed dramas because in Viet dubbed series, their Vietnamese is very weird. Some we don't even use in everyday life. The accent is the most funny thing. I think they're like Chinese speaking Vietnamese. Although I can understand, it still sounds funny. Joining a Vietnamese forum is a good opportunity to learn Vietnamese, but many of the forums are bad.
thuyanh99 wrote:Ha..ha.. I have to agree with you on that...I always tell my friends" Hay~ bao? trong." when we were leaving.... and the word they use to ask the girl to marry is" em ga? cho anh di " I said to myself....what the heck is he talking about?????mangosteen wrote:It's so funny to say "Tu biet" and "Huynh, Muoi" ;) I don't think it's a good way to learn Vietnamese from dubbed dramas because in Viet dubbed series, their Vietnamese is very weird. Some we don't even use in everyday life. The accent is the most funny thing. I think they're like Chinese speaking Vietnamese. Although I can understand, it still sounds funny. Joining a Vietnamese forum is a good opportunity to learn Vietnamese, but many of the forums are bad.
i see a lot of parents exaggerated A LOT about the poverty in Vietnam. I mean the country is definitely poor compared to developed nations, but it's not poor poor like people starving in africa or somethingmist1105 wrote:I doubt the chance will come anytime soon. Perhaps after college with my dad or something. x) Glad to see someone else from Southern Cali is up, haha. I havent been able to sleep cuz im waiting for Meteor Garden II to finish downloadingK.T.Tran wrote:I went to vietnam over my winter break in December. It was quite enlightening. My image of Vietnam definately changed. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.mist1105 wrote:it's such a shame that Vietnam is considered a developing country, but it's no surprise there. Being vietnamese, I'm kind of scared to goto Vietnam because I don't want to see people on the streets. It makes me depressed seeing this. I feel useless enough as it is, knowing that I'm living in the U.S.A. practically in the lap of luxury doesn't make me feel any better.
When you do get the chance to go to Vietnam, do take it.
I agree, I've been reading/researching a lot about Vietnam's developments and although Vietnam has a lot of problems, they've also made a lot of progressjayph wrote: i see a lot of parents exaggerated A LOT about the poverty in Vietnam. I mean the country is definitely poor compared to developed nations, but it's not poor poor like people starving in africa or something
I go to sunday school too! But I sleep in there xD. I'm falling in love with Korean dramas. Nice to meet you too x]ShortaznGirl wrote:i don't even remember if i already posted in this thread...but...i'll do it again! LOL sooo im viet and speak viet and i have to go to viet school every frigilin sunday to learn to read and write cuz my parents make me!
hiLdyKlutzy wrote:I go to sunday school too! But I sleep in there xD. I'm falling in love with Korean dramas. Nice to meet you too x]ShortaznGirl wrote:i don't even remember if i already posted in this thread...but...i'll do it again! LOL sooo im viet and speak viet and i have to go to viet school every frigilin sunday to learn to read and write cuz my parents make me!
heheh i wish i could sleep without getting caught! i sit in the backrow too! hahah and i suck at taking tests so everyone in the class helps each other out with tests without the teacher catching us. i like viet school cuz of the 45 minute lunch break aaand theres not really any rules.Its not poor poor like people starving in Africa, but still bad enough where little kids have to go around trying to sell lottery tickets to earn $$$ and not go school. Also i see little kids in those market places selling food with their parents.jayph wrote: i see a lot of parents exaggerated A LOT about the poverty in Vietnam. I mean the country is definitely poor compared to developed nations, but it's not poor poor like people starving in africa or something
I don't really sleep but I'm half dead. xD Last year, my cousin & I used to help each other out a lot on the tests (x I don't like Viet school. Viet learn time is from 12 - 1:05 pm then around 1:30 to 2:35 is when he learn about religion. Soo boring T.TShortaznGirl wrote:hiLdyKlutzy wrote:I go to sunday school too! But I sleep in there xD. I'm falling in love with Korean dramas. Nice to meet you too x]ShortaznGirl wrote:i don't even remember if i already posted in this thread...but...i'll do it again! LOL sooo im viet and speak viet and i have to go to viet school every frigilin sunday to learn to read and write cuz my parents make me!
Yes, there are kids that not go to school. It's sad. Luckily, the percentage of illiterate is not so high. As I understand, the distance between the rich and the poor in VN is quite clear. Somes are so rich that they have almost everything, send their kids abroad for studying...etc...and somes like you said. But in general, VN is not so poor poor poor like some people said. It's getting better and better now.K.T.Tran wrote:Its not poor poor like people starving in Africa, but still bad enough where little kids have to go around trying to sell lottery tickets to earn $$$ and not go school. Also i see little kids in those market places selling food with their parents.jayph wrote: i see a lot of parents exaggerated A LOT about the poverty in Vietnam. I mean the country is definitely poor compared to developed nations, but it's not poor poor like people starving in africa or something
Sad to see some families don't have $$$$ to send their kids to school
so lonely i miss her so much..I think that everybody there speak viet but they don't all write viet, even if i think that if you speak vietnameese, you can easily read as well and so you can write(with some mistakes of course)bella_mygga_insek wrote:hello everybody! I´m half viet, my daddy is from vietnam, but I can´t read viet.
I have a question to all of you? why aren´t you writing in vietnamese? Everybody is writing their posts in english.. that´s kinda weird.. but good for me, then I can understand what you´re talking about! lol...
(like me)aha okey, I got it! I don´t think that I can write in vietnamese actually, When people writes in viet then I can only understand 70%, dun know why, maybe cos the symbols abowe every word is confusing me!yuna67 wrote:I think that everybody there speak viet but they don't all write viet, even if i think that if you speak vietnameese, you can easily read as well and so you can write(with some mistakes of course)bella_mygga_insek wrote:hello everybody! I´m half viet, my daddy is from vietnam, but I can´t read viet.
I have a question to all of you? why aren´t you writing in vietnamese? Everybody is writing their posts in english.. that´s kinda weird.. but good for me, then I can understand what you´re talking about! lol...
but i think it takes much more time to write viet and people there are quite lazy aren't they?
xin chao ban
I can't write vietnamese at all. I missed spelled Chi as Gi.......got no idea how to write the accent mark on the "o" in Phobella_mygga_insek wrote: aha okey, I got it! I don´t think that I can write in vietnamese actually, When people writes in viet then I can only understand 70%, dun know why, maybe cos the symbols abowe every word is confusing me!
totally agree with you !!! ban cuon is one of the best meal. ban bao is really great too!bella_mygga_insek wrote:haha.. me too! I have to take lessons as well! talking about pho, it´s a nice dish!!!
But I like ban cuon the most! oii!
windy0304 wrote:Tui cũng là người Việt nà, mà sao mí người đăng kí được ơ clubbox thế, tui làm theo hướng dẫn rồi nhưng cứ không được, ai làm giúp tui 1 accoung với được không?
Mà tui vô tình biết được 4room này, không ngiwf có cả người Việt ở đay nữa (Zui wá xá), Các bạn hãy tạo 1 thread mới để post tất cả các mem là người Việt để tiện liên lạc,trao đổi nha
)minh cung vai !!windy0304 wrote:Tui cũng là người Việt nà, mà sao mí người đăng kí được ơ clubbox thế, tui làm theo hướng dẫn rồi nhưng cứ không được, ai làm giúp tui 1 accoung với được không?
Mà tui vô tình biết được 4room này, không ngiwf có cả người Việt ở đay nữa (Zui wá xá), Các bạn hãy tạo 1 thread mới để post tất cả các mem là người Việt để tiện liên lạc,trao đổi nha
ahahaha ur wrong lol...ah actually only the last part is...PbN DVDx are not blackmarket stuffyummiekiwi wrote: Umm just to note Paris By Night and Asia are Vietnamese music shows however they do not work with the Vietnamese government.. actually they're the opposite and they are made in the US, Canada,Austrialia etc..., so we can't count them in with the Vietnamese programs that they show in Vietnam. B/c showing Paris by Night or Asia in Vietnam is illegal. Well ofcourse they have those Dvds over there but they're all blackmarket stuff... if the Vietnamese government finds out they will get arrested.
Who said if the govt finds out they will get arrested...make it sound like we are livin in Germany under Hitler's control or smth . as far as i know, people are free to buy and watch those DVDs in vietnam 
though i dont think a lot of ppl do watch it except the elderly since they hav crazy music shows/progs there for the youngsters too anyway....Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest
