Slackey wrote:Well, I'm a paranoid person in general when it comes to these types of things I think of the worst as the most possible outcome so that's why I said no. If j-addicts was run, and lets say Ruroshin was sued and had to be brought up on copyright charges, it would most likely lead to the end of d-addicts. How? Well, of course they'll find out that he has another tracker filled with Japanese dramas. People on this board seem to forget that even though the dramas on this site are not licensed in the US, it doesn't mean we aren't violating copyright laws. We are violating Japanese laws. And the TV captures on this site are violating US broadcasting laws. We are all, in theory, bootleggers because of that fact. Copyright laws don't end just because we are in another country. Right now, no company is looking at the dorama community as a ring of bootleggers and they are letting us continue to share with each other. If j-addicts was run , the Japanese companies will see that we cost them business and, maybe in spite because of that fact, will want to exercise there right to shut d-addcits down as well.maiko303 wrote:@ Beer - I'm not about to quote you and turn this into a messy, hard to read post so here are my responses:
Point 1. But lawsuits generally have to brought up separately. Also, say if I ran a site with blatantly licensed material on (not that j-addicts would be that of course), and was taken to court, why would that affect my other site which was run on a separate server, and *didn't* host such material. Do you think the MPAA /courts would try to shut down my other site just out of spite?
You are too naive to think that d-addicts won't be shut down out of spite for what happens on j-addicts. Business is business, and if it means that shutting down both trackers is what it takes to drive the message home, then they will. If the US music industry had the guts to sue a 12 yr. old girl for copyright infringement, what makes you think the MPAA won't try to convince Japanese companies into suing about d-aadicts? Do you actually think they won't try and shut down d-addicts out of spite? Wouldn't you try to shut down both trackers just you can teach some copyright violating punk kid a lesson? (Sorry Ruroshin didn't mean to call you a punk kid! Just trying to drive the message home)
My point is d-addcits isn't under a microscope and we basically have free reign. I think the creation of j-addcits would have changed that and may lead to d-addcits closing. Well it doesn't really matter now anyways since Ruroshin won't be making j-addicts.....
As you say, its looks like j-addicts will be a non-starter now anyway, but I still stand by my original point that the MPAA would not try to bring down a site which hosts Asian dramas just because the owner also happens to run a site with non US licensed Japanese movies. They have enough to be dealing with without wasting time & money on media that's blatantly out of their jurisdiction. I really cant see them wasting time liasing with Japanese companies, trying to get them to bring a lawsuit against d-addicts either. What would be in it for the MPAA? Nothing really, apart from if they think we cant get Asian dramas anymore we will start watching more American shite again.
I think that the only reason Japanese companies would have to get involved is if a large majority of visitors to d-addicts were from Japan. I don't know the geographical statistics for the visitors of this site but I'd be very much surprised if that were the case. Most Japanese people could simply watch there own counties dramas on tv and have no need to dl them in the first place much as I do with coronation street, and Eastenders! Do Japanese tv drama producers really care if a tiny percentage of people who live outside of Japan download their dramas? We cant know the answer for sure but I know what I think
As for Asian dramas that *are* shown on American and other countries TV channels, again, this is hardly in the same league as downloading the latest Hollywood Blockbuster. Indeed the BBC has plans to release its *entire* back archive of tv shows on the internet for people to download for free! Hopefully this is a sign of things to come.
Ultimately I wouldn't want anything to happen that would risk d-addicts being shut down either. My fiancée is Japanese and we watch the J-dramas that I dl from this site and others every night. I'm just totally not convinced that having a j-addicts site would in any way put the future of this site at risk. But still, as j-addicts is not happening now that's irrelevant.
@ groink - I would happily set up a tracker and run a website for Japanese movies if I had the technical knowledge and money to do so, but unfortunately I have neither.
It certainly has nothing to do with being scared though. If there was some way someone else could set it all up but have it all in my name and address then I'd have no problem with that at all lol.
I'm not sure why you are saying this anyway as the post was started with Ruroshin asking what people thought about him setting up j-addicts. People are just giving there opinion on that. In the original post there was no mention of asking *other* people to start up the site....