Kurosagi [Eng Subs] (Ep 1, 5-7)

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Kurosagi [Eng Subs] (Ep 1, 5-7)

Postby nytifagurl » Thu May 18, 2006 5:23 am

hi all,
my friend (hi_impedance) have decided to sub Kurosagi from the Chinese subs (thanks to johnnyjr clubbox)

please comment if taking :)

ALSO, we have changed the names just for the heck of it... so yeah. random names, we know. sorry. just for fun. please do not hate us for our random inserted comments... also PLEASE dont bash us... we subbed episode 5 instead of studying for our final exams / working on final projects... lol. we are very sorry that we were unaware of all these subbing rules beforehand...

PLEASE COMMENT IF YOU DOWNLOAD! (and let us know what you think..)

For episode 5 subs:
DISCLAIMER:
there is a FUNNY version and a REGULAR version. i accidentally uploaded them in the wrong order. haha. so PLEASE, read the descriptions, and make sure ur watching the right one... (i recommend watching the regular one first, but u should def check out the funny one... :-D)

*edit #2 on june 5, 2006*
thanks to kioku for responding multiple times on this board... we're glad that you guys are supporting us in this... (subbing's not easy, hehe)
saffy gave the suggestion to refer to her post... luckily Kioku-LS have told us it is ok (well saffy did, hehe), so we JUST may be continuing this project!! you can read saffy's post here

*edit on june 9, 2006
here is episode 6 soft subbed!
we didn't get to release 1-4 WITH this episode b/c then it would have taken WAY too long... yeah. but they're coming soon. and again, we're not trying to compete with kioku-LS, just want to spread the kurosagi love is all. please continue to support kioku-LS' hard subbed versions of Kurosagi. :)

*june 13*
episode 1 soft subs done. next release will prolly be episode 7 but prolly not as fast as this episode...^^

*june 14*
episode 7 soft subs out!! so we really worked hard for this one to get it out fast!! next episode may take a lil while. we appreciate everyone's patience and support!!
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Postby runo » Thu May 18, 2006 5:29 am

hey thanks for sharing!! i have finals too but i taking a break!

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Postby janazuul » Thu May 18, 2006 5:37 am

Great.. :cheers: thanks so much...!!!

I've really been waiting for someone to softsub it. Are you doing the other parts as well??
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Postby nytifagurl » Thu May 18, 2006 5:45 am

janazuul wrote:Great.. :cheers: thanks so much...!!!

I've really been waiting for someone to softsub it. Are you doing the other parts as well??


we're not sure yet... T_T
this one took a LONG time... cuz we timed it by hand...

but we'll see... how things look after finals :P

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Postby Saragorn » Thu May 18, 2006 6:18 am

Er... it's cool you enjoy subbing and all, but in a couple of hours, I think there're going to be some pissed people posting here. See this post.

Well, OK, maybe not pissed, probably just annoyed.
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Postby 4tAnG » Thu May 18, 2006 6:22 am

^ well some people prefer softsubs over hardsubs and vice versa, and seeing that no one else is doing softsubs i dont see why this would cause any problem.

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Postby puremix1 » Thu May 18, 2006 6:41 am

wohooo im going to watch it as soon as i dl the raw LOL thanks for the release, i really appreciate it.
As for the other comments, i believe there are some rules because of problems in the past, but hey im happy ^^

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Postby CraZyaH » Thu May 18, 2006 6:49 am

I hope you've already pm'ed someone from team Kioku (group thats doing the hardsubs for this) just to let them know you're making softsubs but not from their translations.
And it looks like you're not intending to finish up the whole series in softsubs,so I dunno.. guess you should at least post that in the first post,so people don't keep requesting/waiting for the rest.
-Hana Yori Dango had 2 groups working on it,one was SARS (Hardsubs) and the other did softsubs. but both started on episode 1,and thats the rule if u're making ur own subs you should start from episode 1. (there are reasons why those rules were made)

buh anyway,thanks for episode 5's subs :mrgreen:
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Postby gryzze » Thu May 18, 2006 8:31 am

Please keep in mind that some of the guidelines in <here> only applies to hardsubs and/or uploading.

The way I read the guidelines there's nothing wrong here.

Of course there's nothing wrong with following them anyway... :-)

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Postby ironicwave » Thu May 18, 2006 8:52 am

4tAnG wrote:^ well some people prefer softsubs over hardsubs and vice versa, and seeing that no one else is doing softsubs i dont see why this would cause any problem.


making softsubs isn't a problem, starting off where another group is currently at though is... if you're using the argument that these subs are for people downloading the raws instead of the hardsubs, this upload makes even less sense because nobody starts watching at episode 5...
while i personally understand the hard work involved in subbing, this upload to me just looks like trying to steal other people's thunder... not cool...

it can't be that hard for people to extend some common courtesy... XD

http://www.d-addicts.com/forum/viewtopic_24851.htm
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Postby Hudsonn » Thu May 18, 2006 9:37 am

Thank you nytifagurl & high-z for ep5 soft subs!

(I hope Kioku-LS team doesn't get pissed off too much?!)
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Postby nytifagurl » Thu May 18, 2006 12:26 pm

ah, we're very sorry. we only thought, since there are other hard subs circulating around the internet that this would be ok....

and we just wanted to test out what it'd be like to sub one episode, so...

very sorry to kioku and LS if this is insulting or rude.

we can take down this thread or delete the post on d-addicts if desired.

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Postby ztory666 » Thu May 18, 2006 12:43 pm

but I think it would be much better of you sub for "Top Caster" I think many of people here waiting for it (^_^)

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Postby kenderkin88 » Thu May 18, 2006 1:08 pm

I do in general tend to prefer soft subs, just so I can fix the occasional typo or glaring spelling error.. ::is teh Grammar Nazi:: ..but it is a little unfair to Kioku-LS to start where they've left off. If you went back and soft-subbed the earlier episodes, too, I don't think anyone would mind at all..

..not that I won't be taking this. :lol I don't want to wait to watch the next episode. >.<;;
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Postby bshater » Thu May 18, 2006 1:22 pm

Thanks for sub 5 mate. hope you do the rest as well, including the earlier episodes.
Kioku and LS, please forgive these good fellows. they're just trying to make everyone at D-Addicts happy.
all right, thanks again!

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Postby conrez » Thu May 18, 2006 1:49 pm

wow, people here are very intense about the topic of fansubs. I don't see why this post would have any problem though. I mean there's only 1 fansubbed episode and the disclaimer said it's probably a one-time thing. It's not like its gonna compete with Kioku/LS from now on and keep subbing it and have it out before the hardsubs. Nytifagurl shouldn't apologize for all the hardwork and time she spent. Although these comments will probably prevent new softsubs efforts on Kurosagi. I'm a little sad since I really enjoyed it.

On a side note, even the one group/fansub rule is a little ridiculous. I mean none of us owns the rights to these dramas anyways. And fansubbing is illegal. Think about how unfair it is to the PRODUCERS and ACTORS of the shows. How much time do they put in?! Plus they DEPEND on it to make a living. And we're just taking their product and enjoying their hard work while they do not even make a single penny from it.

While I agree it would be courteous to not compete with other groups, I also think we should allow personal freedom to everyone. I mean if people are very intrigued by a particular series or just an episode, they should be allowed to fansub it from scratch. As long as they don't have a competing mindset I think it would be OK. I mean if d-addicts continue to have this rule and scare ppl away, there will be many great subbed versions that won't be available on d-addicts but exist elsewhere. I don't think it would be beneficial to the fansubbing community in particular d-addicts at all.

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Postby Lowest » Thu May 18, 2006 2:01 pm

conrez, you're touching on things that have been talked about a lot before, if you read posted from the links on the other page you'll find more in depth views into it. There is no longer a 1 group per series rule here and there have been multiple series with multiple fansubbers.

The only issue here is that they started on episode 5. Kioku and LS has obviously worked really hard to get the episodes out (normally) within a week of them airing, so if you try to imagine if you worked hard on episode 1-4 then have someone come in with episode 5 you could be quite annoyed.

However, Kioku has made the same mistake once before, so I'm sure they'll be very understanding in regards to this.

If they're only doing one episode and just chose episode 5 because it's the most recent then, I don't think there is much of a problem since they wouldn't have purposely started from where Kioku and LS left off.

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thanks!!!

Postby pifernac » Thu May 18, 2006 2:35 pm

I´m sick ( I have a VERY BIG flu) and I was very bored... now I can see kurosagi with sub ...
Really thank you...

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Postby nikochanr3 » Thu May 18, 2006 2:39 pm

I appreciate all subs.

But i don't see the point of subbing a series STARTING with only episode not yet done by the otehr team. You are obviously building on their work which is, to be honest, pretty lame. You are trying to replace them for episode 5 on.

I don't get why you would do that.

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Postby hi_impedance » Thu May 18, 2006 2:54 pm

OK, the only reason we did episode 5 was because we really wanted to see number 5 and one of us can't read the Chinese subs so the other one would have to translate. So since one person was already translating.....we might as well soft sub it and do everyone a favour. So we didn't realize there were soooo many rules about this. But we did intend it as a one-time thing.....especially after all the time spent into this one. It's just not worth like 20 hours of our time to enjoy the 45 minute product. Well if we get really bored during the summer and do continue subbing then we'll do the complete series.

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Postby nytifagurl » Thu May 18, 2006 4:56 pm

to clarify-

we are not starting at episode 5 and continuing on, and we have no intention of trying to "replace" kioku-ls's hard work.

in fact we are strong proponents of their hard subs and we hope EVERYBODY will download them when they come out...

we probably will NOT sub any more of these because we're busy busy people ^_^ who have finals coming up... and wont be together this summer. and plus, we dont want people to hate us because we wanted to sub episode 5-- the only reason we chose episode 5 was cuz we wanted a challenge for ourselves and thought episode 5 was a really good episode. thats ALL. we're not trying to BEAT Kioku-LS to it or aything like that.

we appreciate all those who understand we are coming from and hope you all enjoy the subs. ^^

Really, gomen ne if we have offended Kioku-LS. That was not our intention... we just wanted to test out what subbing is like, and want people to appreciate our hard work cuz it took way longe rthan we had anticipated.

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Postby PopGilligan » Thu May 18, 2006 5:06 pm

Wow. You're wonderful : )
I have two subbed episodes to watch tonight!
*feels spoiled by yours and Kiouku-LS' hard work*

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Postby pokute » Thu May 18, 2006 5:14 pm

The only problem I have with this is that I think it may wind up confusing people who happen onto this file and then try to find the rest of the matching subs for the other eps. I hope you put a disclaimer into the sub file itself explaining that it is a one-shot trial and that nobody should go bothering anyone looking for the rest of them.

Other than that, I am glad to see new subbers learning the chops. It's not so easy, is it?

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Postby Phinn » Fri May 19, 2006 12:19 am

A lot of people seem to be second guessing Kioku-LS. I'm helping to produce the hardsubs for Kurosagi and I don't have the slightest problem with this. I don't speak for everyone else, but I presume they wouldn't really care either :D

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Postby pachi_A » Fri May 19, 2006 1:42 am

YAYY!!
now this, is awesome.
thank you, VERY MUCH!

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Postby rousoku » Fri May 19, 2006 3:00 am

Oh my~ thank you so much for subbing kurosagi 5th episode! i downloaded the raw because i couldn't wait more longer to watch it and now you're saving me cuz at least i can understand what happen and so on this time... i will still download the kioku one most probably but still, thank you so much for this.

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Postby puremix1 » Fri May 19, 2006 7:41 am

this show is aweomse and episode 5 has been the best so far

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Postby janazuul » Fri May 19, 2006 1:34 pm

I have a general question concerning this very softsub...am I allowed to translate the Kurosagi 5 Softsubs into German??

I wanne be sure, before I do somthing against anyone's wish - which I really don't wanne do. I am just finding out how subbing really works, thus I just started on the fifth episode since this one is the only one available softsubbed.

@mytifagurl... Can I use your softsub for my translation, please?

@Kioku Can I please translate it into German?

Ps. Once I know how to make softsubs/hardsubs, I will - if allowed - translate all episodes into German.
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Postby kenderkin88 » Fri May 19, 2006 2:00 pm

I don't think there's a rule against translating from someone's subs into another language, as long as you give credit.. o.o I could be wrong, though. >.> Isn't there a rules thread for subbing?
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Postby janazuul » Fri May 19, 2006 2:05 pm

Yeah...I went over that threat, yet I wanted to be sure thats why I wanted to post here as well...
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Postby ironicwave » Fri May 19, 2006 2:07 pm

the standard method is to ask permission to use the english subs for translation into another language, because even though you are still doing the translating work, you technically get the timing free... :wink:
janazuul's going about it courteously, which will be appreciated by most...

@janazuul: i would pm members from kioku directly though if you haven't already, since it isn't guaranteed they'll see this thread... :-)
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Postby mcg » Fri May 19, 2006 3:11 pm

Personally, I don't see where's the trouble. I'm getting Kioku's episodes, and still I'll get ep 5, but since I couldn't wait for ep 5 cos everybody's saying it's very important for the plot, I came here and downloaded subs and the RAW. And I can say it's very amusing, thanx for the subs with funny comments, it's different and just to chill out so it doesn't steps onto Kioku's work at all.

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Postby nytifagurl » Fri May 19, 2006 4:29 pm

janazuul wrote:I have a general question concerning this very softsub...am I allowed to translate the Kurosagi 5 Softsubs into German??

I wanne be sure, before I do somthing against anyone's wish - which I really don't wanne do. I am just finding out how subbing really works, thus I just started on the fifth episode since this one is the only one available softsubbed.

@mytifagurl... Can I use your softsub for my translation, please?

@Kioku Can I please translate it into German?

Ps. Once I know how to make softsubs/hardsubs, I will - if allowed - translate all episodes into German.


from our perspective, go ahead! just know that we translated from chinese, which was translated from japanese... so its a few rounds of translating... hopefully no meaning will be lost, we think our subs are pretty accurate soooo yeah! go ahead. :) just credit us or whatever... yeah, we're 'minus coshine x plus shi'!! wheeee. enjoy.

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Postby janazuul » Fri May 19, 2006 5:07 pm

nytifagurl wrote:from our perspective, go ahead! just know that we translated from chinese, which was translated from japanese... so its a few rounds of translating... hopefully no meaning will be lost, we think our subs are pretty accurate soooo yeah! go ahead. :) just credit us or whatever... yeah, we're 'minus coshine x plus shi'!! wheeee. enjoy.


Thank you nytifagurl... I did leave the credits mentioning you guys in the sub. I also wrote to Kioku, just to be sure. I am yet to translate and add the beginning of the episode that was left out. After that I should be pretty much done. Thanks again and thus I prepare my leave from this thread. Sorry for having intruded into the english Kurosagi Thread, just wanted to be heard and seen.

Off I go... :salut:
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Postby nytifagurl » Fri May 19, 2006 8:05 pm

janazuul wrote: Thank you nytifagurl... I did leave the credits mentioning you guys in the sub. I also wrote to Kioku, just to be sure. I am yet to translate and add the beginning of the episode that was left out. After that I should be pretty much done. Thanks again and thus I prepare my leave from this thread. Sorry for having intruded into the english Kurosagi Thread, just wanted to be heard and seen.

Off I go... :salut:


awww! well good luck, and enjoy!!!

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Postby didia » Fri May 19, 2006 9:45 pm

please continue this.. This is more convenient for me, sisnce i don't have to download it twice. I can just all the subtitles to my already dowloaded raw ... Thank you .. .. I would appreciate it if you guy can continue it...

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Postby Shiro-chan » Fri May 19, 2006 10:47 pm

thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you !!
i'm soo happy~~~

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Postby Namae » Sun May 21, 2006 1:37 am

You're great. Thx for sub 5.

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Postby iDREAM » Sun May 21, 2006 2:02 am

this is really great, but i cant download it on bittorent for some reason =|, anyone have any suggestions?

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Postby believeinkarma » Sun May 21, 2006 4:06 pm

mcg wrote:Personally, I don't see where's the trouble. I'm getting Kioku's episodes, and still I'll get ep 5, but since I couldn't wait for ep 5 cos everybody's saying it's very important for the plot, I came here and downloaded subs and the RAW. And I can say it's very amusing, thanx for the subs with funny comments, it's different and just to chill out so it doesn't steps onto Kioku's work at all.


yeah, i think we re all curious as to what happens so we see what the soft-sub version of it is, and then we watch the hard-subbed version and then everyones happy :D .....i really liked the ending...hehe eveyones been talking about how tsurara does this and that, and i was just soo anxious to see what happens....but i cant believe it was at the very end.......now i m really anxious for ep 6... :crazy:

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Postby palmdrive » Sun May 21, 2006 5:06 pm

arigatou for the ep.5 subs^_^!

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Postby hi_impedance » Mon May 22, 2006 3:15 am

Wow, I'm sooo excited that ppl downloaded this softsub. So far, 1314 downloads have been completed and out of those .396 were from the second funny ending subs. (accurate to 3 sigdigs) I wonder the actual number of people who really downloaded this though. First there are those who download only the regular subs. A smaller set downloads both and most likely, an even smaller percentage download only the funny ending one. Also, there may be ppl who download more than once. If just ignoring that case, for all incoming users, the choice of them selecting the subs would be two dependent bernoulli processes. Wow that was a long rant. I think I studied too much.....lol

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Postby nytifagurl » Mon May 22, 2006 3:19 am

Hmm, you're right about that. We also have to take into account the people who downloded using Megaupload and Sendspace because we first uploaded it to LJ. And maybe we could model it as a Binominal Process, with very loose estimates... perhaps we could find the bounds with the Weak Law of Large Numbers. Since it's not nearing infinity yet, we can't use the more accurate Central Limit Theorem. Although I prefer the CLT, we may just have to rely on Chebyshev and WLLN. At least with this process, there are no queues, so we don't have to deal with service time! So all we have to worry about is estimating the respective probabilities.... ^_^

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Postby hi_impedance » Mon May 22, 2006 3:26 am

Hmmm....another interesting way to represent this would be to model it as a system. The inputs could be the # of ppl who read the posts on this and other places we've posted, also the # of downloads here. The system could have multiple internal states and the output would be the # of ppl download. We could then build a state observer with feedback to minimize the error of our estimation. However if I built this and modeled ppl as capacitors and resistors and what not, and if the eigen states are unreachable or unobservable, the circuit would be unstable and might blow up in our faces and that would be sad......

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Postby nytifagurl » Mon May 22, 2006 3:35 am

Haha, okay if you wanna do that, then you can model it and write the program while I look on. :) i was thinking instead that we could implement a poll, and using chebyshev (again ;) i just love the name), we could figure out what a good number of people we would need to survey would be to get within a... say, 5% error. And then hoard people who have downloaded to answer the poll. Though that may be kinda difficult.

It's interesting though, because most people would *probably* download both at a time if they wanted to see both, right? Or maybe I'm just thinking about myself... to save the extra time it would take to come back and download a second time. But ajthough we've reached a high of 1300+ downloads here, we have to keep in mind that the number of downloads will be a decreasing function with respect to time... the longer it's here, the less people will d/l. especially when more versions come out. :( how sad.

Anywho, what I'd like to do is model it as a Markov chain, w/o all the extensive programming. (or you could program the markov chain!!!!)... jus cuz i love markov chains so. hahaha, ya know, have the absorbing states be both downloaded, or one downloaded and the other will never be downloaded. The hard part is the transition probabilities... or wait, that would be a very loose application of Markov since markov chains are cooler than that. ^^

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Postby maymay80 » Mon May 22, 2006 3:52 am

nytifagurl wrote:to clarify-

we are not starting at episode 5 and continuing on, and we have no intention of trying to "replace" kioku-ls's hard work.

in fact we are strong proponents of their hard subs and we hope EVERYBODY will download them when they come out...

we probably will NOT sub any more of these because we're busy busy people ^_^ who have finals coming up... and wont be together this summer. and plus, we dont want people to hate us because we wanted to sub episode 5-- the only reason we chose episode 5 was cuz we wanted a challenge for ourselves and thought episode 5 was a really good episode. thats ALL. we're not trying to BEAT Kioku-LS to it or aything like that.

we appreciate all those who understand we are coming from and hope you all enjoy the subs. ^^

Really, gomen ne if we have offended Kioku-LS. That was not our intention... we just wanted to test out what subbing is like, and want people to appreciate our hard work cuz it took way longe rthan we had anticipated.


WAAAA :w00t: :cheers: I give you guys a :thumleft: :thumright: , thanks to you we now have more eps to watch, i'm sure that Kiouku-LS would understand....its good practice i guess if you really dont have much to do in ur spare time.. and i agree eps 5 is good. so here's to Kioku-LS :cheers: :thumright: :thumleft: for their hard work and all....heeeehehehe :D
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Postby hi_impedance » Mon May 22, 2006 3:59 am

Ummm....just when things were getting interesting...some weird error popped up on page 4....I wonder what that's about? Debug....did they want us to debug something? lol....I wouldn't know how.

Anyways, you like Markov? Oh no....now Poisson will be all sad and alone.

Oh you know what else we could model? The number of responses of ppl in this forum. Haha, now that would be interesting and easy to compare the estimated with the actual results. Although I'd still have to apply non-causal Wiener filtering....

BTW, what is the joint pdf of the number of comments and whether or not we'll sub all of the episodes? Ooops, I mean just the probability since the variables are discrete. Hmmm...maybe it'll be exponential....or maybe they're independent RVs in which case it'll be just be the product of the marginals

Alright, no more procrastination for tonight...back to work
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Postby twinkle_star » Mon May 22, 2006 4:06 am

hey thanxx!!! appreciate it alot...
hope you will continue it...
^^

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Postby maymay80 » Mon May 22, 2006 4:28 am

hi_impedance wrote:Ummm....just when things were getting interesting...some weird error popped up on page 4....I wonder what that's about? Debug....did they want us to debug something? lol....I wouldn't know how.



:O dude just a comment ok! :blink gee here i am thanking and commenting the good work...oh well anyhow....sorry if i interupted ur conversions or if i posted it before u could answer to a reply...i guess i should of just said "THANK YOU" for the soft sub episode. :D

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Postby hi_impedance » Mon May 22, 2006 4:35 am

Huh? :scratch: I'm confused.... Yeah thanks to everyone who posted here and gave us support. We actually might translate more subs.....but we're still waiting for permission from the Kioku-LS subs group. Maybe my e-mail got lost in their inboxes.....dunno. At any rate....if we do end up subbing episode 6 it'll probably not be done til like thursday night or something.....and after that.....it seems like the rules are we have to sub everything so we'll have to go back to the earlier episodes too. Not that I have a problem with it since by next week I'd be bored 24/7.

Although it's probably bad that i watched the English hardsubs already for those hopefully it won't end up like that Harvard girl's book. You know when you've read something and try to put it into your own words and you play with the sentence around til it sounds good to you? But then you look back at the source and it's EXACTLY the SAME. Sooooo annoying, well hopefully that won't happen, but just as a warning....

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downloading this episode :)

Postby eurygoong » Mon May 22, 2006 4:40 am

oh yeah, this goes w/the RAW torrent also on d-addicts at:
http://d-addicts.net/torrents/kurosagi% ... vi.torrent
is this the regular version or the funny one?
this was the link at the top of the post.

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Re: downloading this episode :)

Postby hi_impedance » Mon May 22, 2006 4:47 am

eurygoong wrote:oh yeah, this goes w/the RAW torrent also on d-addicts at:
http://d-addicts.net/torrents/kurosagi% ... vi.torrent
is this the regular version or the funny one?
this was the link at the top of the post.


That link is just the RAW video file. Then you can download either version and the subs will appear! :mrgreen:

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Re: downloading this episode :)

Postby eurygoong » Mon May 22, 2006 5:31 am

hi_impedance wrote:
eurygoong wrote:oh yeah, this goes w/the RAW torrent also on d-addicts at:
http://d-addicts.net/torrents/kurosagi% ... vi.torrent
is this the regular version or the funny one?
this was the link at the top of the post.


That link is just the RAW video file. Then you can download either version and the subs will appear! :mrgreen:


so i hav to download the RAW video to download the regular english one?

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Postby InTr4nceWeTrust » Mon May 22, 2006 5:32 am

hi_impedance wrote:Huh? :scratch: I'm confused.... Yeah thanks to everyone who posted here and gave us support. We actually might translate more subs.....but we're still waiting for permission from the Kioku-LS subs group. Maybe my e-mail got lost in their inboxes.....dunno. At any rate....if we do end up subbing episode 6 it'll probably not be done til like thursday night or something.....and after that.....it seems like the rules are we have to sub everything so we'll have to go back to the earlier episodes too. Not that I have a problem with it since by next week I'd be bored 24/7.

Although it's probably bad that i watched the English hardsubs already for those hopefully it won't end up like that Harvard girl's book. You know when you've read something and try to put it into your own words and you play with the sentence around til it sounds good to you? But then you look back at the source and it's EXACTLY the SAME. Sooooo annoying, well hopefully that won't happen, but just as a warning....


i think something is up with their e-mail, cuz i've e-mailed them before about something maybe a week ago? 2 weeks ago? no reply. they also might just be busy since episode 4 was released, iono.

and to my comment on this whole thing...
i know yur getting support but i don't think yu should've started subbing this at 5
and if yu really want to continue, don't do 6 then start over, i'm sure they're already a bit discouraged with yu beating them to episode 5, what more with 6?
dont' pressure them >.<
at the very least, release yur soft subs after they've released their hardsubs
and if yu really wanted to keep busy or translate for yur friend or whatver, i don't believe yu should've released it...20 hours of work or not(it really shoudln't have taken 20 hours to translate for a friend...assuming i know how yu did it, there are easier ways to translate hardsub into another language, but that's a differnet topic and i won't go into that)
iono what kioku will say to yu, if anything, abotu permission, but i don't beileve yu should even pursue it.
i say back off, show respect for them, and find somethign else to sub.
i dont believe all these people supporting yu realize what work kioku is putting into these subs...i think they jsut want to watch a translated version at any cost
those peopel will harm the amount of people that download the hardsub...i know yu say yu hope everybody will download kioku's hardsub, but i know that a lot of these people dont' care anymore and WONT download it..only the true supporters of kioku will download the hardsub(i refuse to download this softsub, btw)
perhaps if kioku gives up(which i hope they don't) and yu guys finish, then i'll give in and download teh soft subs, but for now, i'd like to stay loyal to Kioku
*shrugs*
just my opinion

btw sorry for my typing, its kinda late, and i'm lazy to concentrate on my spelling or whatver
i'm not even really sure what i typed >.<
lack of sleep makes yu say stuff that doens't make sense or yu don't remember later O_o

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Postby bangy » Mon May 22, 2006 11:25 am

I haven't watched episode 5 yet, was waiting for Kioku to release theirs but then I found this thread so I'm dling the RAW (I'll post comments later as to how your subs are).

I'm no expert on fansub rules and regulations, but personally I think if you guys can contribute to the fansub community then go ahead. No one's trying to compete or bash anyone else, we're all being productive here. I watch many animes that have multiple groups subbing it. For example, Naruto... Dattebayo would come out with a fast translation that everyone would download & watch, but when Lunar comes out with theirs (usually higher quality) people re-download and archive or rewatch that Lunar episode.

I dont see why this can't be the same. I appreciate you guys providing for the community, and if you can further contribute, I dont see why not. Let's not get our pride mixed up here.

P.S. Wild idea, but maybe you guys can JOIN kioku-LS and help them produce their hardsubs? :)

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Postby mcg » Mon May 22, 2006 11:47 am

InTr4nceWeTrust wrote:
hi_impedance wrote:Huh? :scratch: I'm confused.... Yeah thanks to everyone who posted here and gave us support. We actually might translate more subs.....but we're still waiting for permission from the Kioku-LS subs group. Maybe my e-mail got lost in their inboxes.....dunno. At any rate....if we do end up subbing episode 6 it'll probably not be done til like thursday night or something.....and after that.....it seems like the rules are we have to sub everything so we'll have to go back to the earlier episodes too. Not that I have a problem with it since by next week I'd be bored 24/7.

Although it's probably bad that i watched the English hardsubs already for those hopefully it won't end up like that Harvard girl's book. You know when you've read something and try to put it into your own words and you play with the sentence around til it sounds good to you? But then you look back at the source and it's EXACTLY the SAME. Sooooo annoying, well hopefully that won't happen, but just as a warning....


i think something is up with their e-mail, cuz i've e-mailed them before about something maybe a week ago? 2 weeks ago? no reply. they also might just be busy since episode 4 was released, iono.

and to my comment on this whole thing...
i know yur getting support but i don't think yu should've started subbing this at 5
and if yu really want to continue, don't do 6 then start over, i'm sure they're already a bit discouraged with yu beating them to episode 5, what more with 6?
dont' pressure them >.<
at the very least, release yur soft subs after they've released their hardsubs
and if yu really wanted to keep busy or translate for yur friend or whatver, i don't believe yu should've released it...20 hours of work or not(it really shoudln't have taken 20 hours to translate for a friend...assuming i know how yu did it, there are easier ways to translate hardsub into another language, but that's a differnet topic and i won't go into that)
iono what kioku will say to yu, if anything, abotu permission, but i don't beileve yu should even pursue it.
i say back off, show respect for them, and find somethign else to sub.
i dont believe all these people supporting yu realize what work kioku is putting into these subs...i think they jsut want to watch a translated version at any cost
those peopel will harm the amount of people that download the hardsub...i know yu say yu hope everybody will download kioku's hardsub, but i know that a lot of these people dont' care anymore and WONT download it..only the true supporters of kioku will download the hardsub(i refuse to download this softsub, btw)
perhaps if kioku gives up(which i hope they don't) and yu guys finish, then i'll give in and download teh soft subs, but for now, i'd like to stay loyal to Kioku
*shrugs*
just my opinion

btw sorry for my typing, its kinda late, and i'm lazy to concentrate on my spelling or whatver
i'm not even really sure what i typed >.<
lack of sleep makes yu say stuff that doens't make sense or yu don't remember later O_o


I think no-one should tell to anyone what they can or can't do. They're not breaking any rules in these boards. Plus they're not hardsubbing which doesn't step on Kioku's work, cos trust me, the ones that are getting series from one fansub, will keep downloading. We just wanna watch cos we're anxious. But we'll keep getting kioku's.
I think what they've done it's so amusing, and they're just sharing it with us, so why are you getting that angry?

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Postby bangy » Mon May 22, 2006 1:41 pm

ok I just finished watching your soft subs, they are VERY good... job well done.

I like the extra comedy, I LOL-ed a few times reading them you have a good/twisted sense of humor :). Keep up the good work guys, if you can... thanks for bringing ep 5 xD

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Postby hi_impedance » Mon May 22, 2006 2:42 pm

bangy wrote:ok I just finished watching your soft subs, they are VERY good... job well done.

I like the extra comedy, I LOL-ed a few times reading them you have a good/twisted sense of humor :). Keep up the good work guys, if you can... thanks for bringing ep 5 xD



Awww...Thanks! We try, we try....lol, yeah some of the things are a little silly in there. But glad that you appreciated it.

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Postby Love Angel » Mon May 22, 2006 2:51 pm

thaaanks 4 the sub ^_^

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Postby InTr4nceWeTrust » Mon May 22, 2006 3:33 pm

angry? no
the first post in this thread was asking to post opinions, and this was mine
i'm not telling them what to do
and yes, people will download kioku's version, but there WILL be people who do not care about which version they get as long as they watch it.
hardsub or not, it DOES step on their work as i'm sure they were currently working on episode 5 when this softsub was released.
they may not be breaking RULES but there are some guidelines and "unwritten rules" that they are clearly breaking.

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Postby mcg » Mon May 22, 2006 4:36 pm

Really, what silly thing to care about who subs and who not. I'm subbing a series in Spanish, and I know someone else's doing it hardsubbed (they begun after I did), and I really don't care, cos the more option we've got the best. Plus that subs were made just for amusement. I also laughed so much with the extra-comedy bits, and I'd got the normal version...

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Postby nytifagurl » Mon May 22, 2006 5:03 pm

InTr4nceWeTrust wrote:angry? no
the first post in this thread was asking to post opinions, and this was mine
i'm not telling them what to do
and yes, people will download kioku's version, but there WILL be people who do not care about which version they get as long as they watch it.
hardsub or not, it DOES step on their work as i'm sure they were currently working on episode 5 when this softsub was released.
they may not be breaking RULES but there are some guidelines and "unwritten rules" that they are clearly breaking.


well, we must keep in mind that fansubbing isnt exactly legal, is it? but the internet is such a wealth of information,w/these new torrents and ways of file sharing, we can get past lots of rules. there are many series with multiple fansubbers (think anime), theres series with hard and soft subs, etc. we understand that we should have gone to kioku-LS, and so thats why we emailed them after to see if it would be ok to do this.

yes, we may have started at episode 5 because that episode really peaked our interest, but we did say that IF we do decide to continue, we would have to tackle 1-4 sometime. as for the choice of when to sub which episodes, i believe that that is up to the fansubbers themselves, especially when starting halfway through a season. i dont think you have any right to tell us that we're "pressuring" kioku or whatnot-- only kioku-LS can speak for themselves. and we have yet to hear back from them. if it was in our interest to sub episode 6 before we did 1-4, well then thats our own prerogative, isnt it?

we apologize for making the mistake of not checking with Kioku-LS before releasing this on d-addicts, and if we had known that it would stir this much controversy, perhaps we would have thought twice about posting this thread.

we were NOT going to sub any more, but due to the peaked interest in softsubs, we may decide to continue ths project. if it is not "allowed," well then IF we continue the project, we'll just post them elsewhere, not on d-addicts. there are different hardsub versions going around, but because they're not on d-addicts, its okay? i dont know. the "rules," official or unofficial, are quite loose considering fansubbing is a controversial topic all in itself. but we will def check with kioku-LS about what their opinion is.

as for how to model this process, im kinda annoyed right now and hafta head off to my exam dealing w/such processes. i will get back to you soon bout that, hi_impedance ;)
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Postby nytifagurl » Mon May 22, 2006 5:04 pm

also, for those who enjoyed the humor, thanks. :) we werent sure what the reactions would be to it. hahaha. we only thought of this as a one-time deal so thats why we changed the names and made things quite amusing... ^_^

but hontou ni arigatou. :) its always nice to hear what people hafta say about the quality of the subs and such.

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Postby nikochanr3 » Mon May 22, 2006 5:14 pm

I hear backtracking...seriously there are no rules against it, but working from 5 on (if you continue) and ignoring 1 to 4 is obviously building on what Kioku did, and its just not nice. Asking them to aprrove / disapprove is not nice either, CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME NO? Fansub groups do such a service, and thats why they are being protected. If someone does Episode 6 funny fansubs and not 5, would you feel honored? Or a little annoyed they took your project? The same people criticizing you would jump to protect what you did too.

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Postby FelyxSZ » Mon May 22, 2006 5:39 pm

They already said they meant no harm and said sorry so i dont see how trying to explain things any further will change anything but hey thats just my opinion.

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Postby pokute » Mon May 22, 2006 5:44 pm

This is getting ridiculous... just how much attention does this one-shot sub trial deserve? In case nobody noticed, a member of Kioku posted to this thread on page 2 and said he didn't mind about this at all, so the whole controversy should have ENDED right there. As I said one post above the Kioku member, if you do something like this just add a statement at the top of the sub file that it is NOT part of a set of subs of the complete series so that people don't waste time looking for the rest of the matching subs.

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Postby *Lifo* » Mon May 22, 2006 5:52 pm

If this group subbed this episode, will kioku hardsub it..??

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Postby ironicwave » Mon May 22, 2006 6:02 pm

nytifagurl wrote:yes, we may have started at episode 5 because that episode really peaked our interest, but we did say that IF we do decide to continue, we would have to tackle 1-4 sometime. as for the choice of when to sub which episodes, i believe that that is up to the fansubbers themselves, especially when starting halfway through a season. i dont think you have any right to tell us that we're "pressuring" kioku or whatnot-- only kioku-LS can speak for themselves. and we have yet to hear back from them. if it was in our interest to sub episode 6 before we did 1-4, well then thats our own prerogative, isnt it?


it is your own prerogative to sub ep 6 before 1-4, but it's against the d-addicts fansub uploading rules for them to be posted here...
and yes, those are formally written rules...
people may've cut you slack because you did in fact state this to be a oneshot deal, but this generated "interest" you're talking about possibly motivating you to continue with 6 is precisely the kind of leecher encouragement you're likely to get if you "cut in line"...

i don't particularly care whether or not kioku-LS have a problem with you posting from 6 and finishing the rest later...
there have been groups who have had a problem with this behaviour and this is why the rules are in place...
ignoring these rules will just be setting the precedent for others to do the same and then we'll get the same crap started in here we've been trying to avoid...

since kioku-LS are doing hardsubs, there's no problem with you doing softsubs, as long as you continue off episode 1... and since most everybody in here seems to not be able to find the rules, here's the related excerpt again...

Rule For Uploading Fansubs
You MUST start at the beginning and not upload from where another group is currently at. Exception to this point is if the existing project has been dropped and confirmed by the individual or group working on it and they have agreed for you to continue from where they left off.

Last i checked kioku-LS have not dropped this project...
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Postby gryzze » Mon May 22, 2006 6:46 pm

ironicwave wrote:Rule For Uploading Fansubs
You MUST start at the beginning and not upload from where another group is currently at. Exception to this point is if the existing project has been dropped and confirmed by the individual or group working on it and they have agreed for you to continue from where they left off.

This rule applies to uploading. I thought it referred to uploading of torrents.

If this rule applies to softsubs or any sort of posting then it would be best to clarify that part.

Btw ironicwave, where did you find that text? The one found in "How to be a good fansubber" looks a little different.

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Postby ironicwave » Mon May 22, 2006 6:57 pm

obviously softsubs aren't usually released as torrents, but they are fansubs and hence fall under fansub uploading rule...
but in essence, the importance of the rule doesn't lie in whether torrents or scripts are uploaded, but rather that they are uploaded in proper sequence...

the passage is found in d-addicts announcements, d-addicts uploading rules sticky...
matter of fact, the first part of the fansub uploading rule specifies that the rule applies to softsubs and hardsubs alike...

http://www.d-addicts.com/forum/viewtopic_24851.htm
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Postby gryzze » Mon May 22, 2006 7:10 pm

Hmmm... I thought that document was strictly on the topic of uploading torrents, but it looks like you're right.

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Postby nikochanr3 » Mon May 22, 2006 7:49 pm

pokute wrote:This is getting ridiculous... just how much attention does this one-shot sub trial deserve? In case nobody noticed, a member of Kioku posted to this thread on page 2 and said he didn't mind about this at all, so the whole controversy should have ENDED right there. As I said one post above the Kioku member, if you do something like this just add a statement at the top of the sub file that it is NOT part of a set of subs of the complete series so that people don't waste time looking for the rest of the matching subs.


This restarted cause the original poster backtracked on the THIS WAS JUST ONCE and said he may start posting from 6, and is this ok, and explaing why its ok. It's not ok IMO. The job Kioku is doing is a real good one, and scrimping ont their work is unfair, and that's why this is still going.

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Postby pokute » Mon May 22, 2006 8:11 pm

nikochanr3 wrote:
pokute wrote:This is getting ridiculous... just how much attention does this one-shot sub trial deserve? In case nobody noticed, a member of Kioku posted to this thread on page 2 and said he didn't mind about this at all, so the whole controversy should have ENDED right there. As I said one post above the Kioku member, if you do something like this just add a statement at the top of the sub file that it is NOT part of a set of subs of the complete series so that people don't waste time looking for the rest of the matching subs.


This restarted cause the original poster backtracked on the THIS WAS JUST ONCE and said he may start posting from 6, and is this ok, and explaing why its ok. It's not ok IMO. The job Kioku is doing is a real good one, and scrimping ont their work is unfair, and that's why this is still going.


I would say worry about it when it happens, and then ask for a moderator to make a judgement.

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Postby nikochanr3 » Mon May 22, 2006 8:19 pm

pokute wrote:
nikochanr3 wrote:
pokute wrote:This is getting ridiculous... just how much attention does this one-shot sub trial deserve? In case nobody noticed, a member of Kioku posted to this thread on page 2 and said he didn't mind about this at all, so the whole controversy should have ENDED right there. As I said one post above the Kioku member, if you do something like this just add a statement at the top of the sub file that it is NOT part of a set of subs of the complete series so that people don't waste time looking for the rest of the matching subs.


This restarted cause the original poster backtracked on the THIS WAS JUST ONCE and said he may start posting from 6, and is this ok, and explaing why its ok. It's not ok IMO. The job Kioku is doing is a real good one, and scrimping ont their work is unfair, and that's why this is still going.


I would say worry about it when it happens, and then ask for a moderator to make a judgement.


I think the discussion shifted more to theoretical at this point than to prevent the subs. :salut: But i'll shut up.

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Postby nytifagurl » Mon May 22, 2006 8:54 pm

ironicwave wrote:it is your own prerogative to sub ep 6 before 1-4, but it's against the d-addicts fansub uploading rules for them to be posted here...
and yes, those are formally written rules...
people may've cut you slack because you did in fact state this to be a oneshot deal, but this generated "interest" you're talking about possibly motivating you to continue with 6 is precisely the kind of leecher encouragement you're likely to get if you "cut in line"...

i don't particularly care whether or not kioku-LS have a problem with you posting from 6 and finishing the rest later...
there have been groups who have had a problem with this behaviour and this is why the rules are in place...
ignoring these rules will just be setting the precedent for others to do the same and then we'll get the same crap started in here we've been trying to avoid...


thats fine. if we feel like subbing episode 6 before 1-4, then we will do so. but we wont post anything up until we have 1-4 completed as well. i believe that that works fine with d-addicts' rules.

as it is, my arguing a point is kind of stupid considering that we dont even KNOW if we ARE continuing this project. and considering all of the crap we've gotten about it, we should probably just drop it. or not post it up here on d-addicts. if i knew how to remove a thread, i would.

thank you for pointing out how we have broken the rules. and thanks to those who read the disclaimer on the first post of this thread. we apologize for all of this controversy because we now know better, and won't make the same mistake again.

i will update the first post of this thread when we do decide what to do. but for now, final exams are more important than kurosagi, as much as i love pi.


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