Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

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kdjtachi65
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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby kdjtachi65 » Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:34 pm

risu wrote:
pato wrote:I know but what i mean is why the ihome company doesn't make one offering more channels.

They have a certain bandwith to broadcast theirs channels.
When you increase the number of channels with the same bandwith you must reduce the quality/service.
Simple as that.

Except they're not broadcasting, they're streaming, which is bandwidth-neutral. Your client isn't choosing from thirty-six different streams coming into your premises, it's initiating a single stream from one of the provider's servers. The provider can host a dozen streams or a thousand; it's still only sending that single 3-4mbps stream to your client.

It's more likely the reason they (whichever Shenzhen factory builds these things) haven't come out with an updated box is that the IPTV market is moving away from the linux-based model, and they're unwilling to invest more resources (servers, license fees, storage capacity for recorded streams, etc) into a legacy platform. As far as I know, no new branded linux-based IPTV boxes have been introduced in the past year.

I've been intigued as to why the Raku TV platform was rebranded iHome II. Did the iHome maker/owner acquire it in order to jumpstart their move into the android arena? The recent user interface update certainly suggests just that. Which makes me wonder just where Uchi TV fits into all this, with the exact same interface. Hmmmm...

I think it's possible we'll see an android-based iHome II+/III, with 70+ channels and external HDD recording, appear within the next 6-12 months.

Or I could be wrong, and the IP900's channel count will double next week.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby risu » Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:39 am


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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby supabakakun » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:01 am

I see that http://www.japannettv.com is becoming the one stop place to pick up a IPTV setup. They now carry MaigeTV 3, and TVpad. Has anyone had experience with TVPad, it says that it doesn't require a subscription fee.

** I just noticed that they worked with Maigetv.com, and they redirect you to their site when you try to order. Maybe getting a referral for the redirects. :)

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby frag2 » Wed Jul 08, 2015 2:07 pm

supabakakun wrote:I see that http://www.japannettv.com is becoming the one stop place to pick up a IPTV setup. They now carry MaigeTV 3, and TVpad. Has anyone had experience with TVPad, it says that it doesn't require a subscription fee.

** I just noticed that they worked with Maigetv.com, and they redirect you to their site when you try to order. Maybe getting a referral for the redirects. :)



I bought the TVPAD4 but it was the Chinese version so couldn't test out SakuraTV. Apparently, its just an app anyway in the same ilk as tvapp.so and niji but I guess only Korean/JP builds of TVPad have it exclusively. If someone has it and can extract out the apk, that'd be perfect...assuming theres no registration code/mac addy lock for the app

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby jsternbe » Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:39 am

Unless it is some sort of glitch, the original iHome got an update last night. The background color is slightly different, it has new fonts, and the picture for hooking a drive up to the box for recording is updated. I am not sure of whether there are any internal updates that will affect the quality.

On another note, one trick the Maige TV HD3 is using to get better quality is that it is only streaming at 25 fps instead of 30 fps. This explains why panning looks a bit jerky.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby supabakakun » Sat Jul 11, 2015 1:24 am

I think you are right about iHome being updated. The CS channels picture looks better to me, and I now have the download transfer rate. I lost the download transfer rate after I swapped my SD Card. I am trying to find something like a music video with flashing lights to see if it handles the picture better now.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby Baster » Sat Jul 11, 2015 10:09 am

Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions

kdjtachi65 wrote:
Baster wrote:I have a few questions for those of you who've been watching Japanese TV from overseas these past few years using IPTV:

as far as I know There are currently 6 Japanese IPTV apk/boxes on the market
Ihome, ihomeII, uchi, hikari, skylive and worldtv,


You can add Maige TV to that list, since you included SkyLive. It's getting some favorable reviews.


yes but for my taste Maige TV offers in comparison to other iptv the list of Japanese stations is not so great,
and all other (non-Japanese) TV channels are uninteresting for me

is hikari related to FLET'S HIKARI ? Klick

I don't think so. I believe that HIKARI (NEXT) is NTT's fiber-optic broadband service.


to be precise i mean http://www.hikaritv.net and this belongs to FLET'S

Ihome 2 seems perfectly fits my needs.
to those who use it :

I don't currently run an iHome II but I tested the APK for several weeks recently, so I'll pretend to be knowledgeable.

will more Channel Lists be added in the future
From what I've observed, channels are added and removed on a regular basis. I imagine the number and variety of channels will grow due to increasing competition.


is there an official homepage ect .. where you can find the latest news and maybe alle the resseller

is it possible to switch the interface language to englisch
Hmmm. The app's interface was recently updated to mimic the iHome / Uchi TV layout recently. I know Uchi TV's config screen allows you to switch between English, Chinese and Japanese for menu options, dialogue boxes and button labels. If you're asking whether the EPG data (channel, program title) can be displayed in English, I'm gonna say no, but I'd enjoy being proven wrong.


that sounds good for me as a newbie :roll

what you think of my plan to buy a iptv box to Improve my Japanese Skills, is it a good approach? or should I save my money? :unsure:

from what I read in this topic Ihome II dont offer the recording Option right? but is it a hardware or a software issue?

Good question. I'm pretty sure the current TV box hardware can handle writing streams to disk, but since most android viewing devices are still tablets and phones (i.e. handhelds), there's probably not a lot of effort in place yet to provide that functionality. Does anyone here know of any android TV boxes with recording capability?


and are someone possibly working on a solution to get this working

It probably will be added down the road as IPTV momentum builds. If you're interested in recording programming right now, several participants in this thread have been using HD recorders with good results, and can probably jump in with suggestions if needed.


maybe someone can write something about that

pato wrote:By the way, when i test the ihome 2 apk, i did not feel that all channels are HD. Some are really good but some are low quality!
Anyway ounce i will get my ihome 2 tv box i will make a review.

is this still planned? I look forward

kdjtachi65 wrote:
I think it's possible we'll see an android-based iHome II+/III, with 70+ channels and external HDD recording, appear within the next 6-12 months.

Or I could be wrong, and the IP900's channel count will double next week.



Hmm interesting.

How did you come up to that conclusion?

is there any sources for that statement


a couple of questions

would you recommend to buy the entire ihome II box inkl. APK or to buy only the APK and buy an android box

to all Europeans How is the picture of Ihome II compared to JSTV

Thanks to all

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby frag2 » Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:29 pm

So I've tested all the APKs and here's my take

Channels - All of them have pretty much the same Japanese channels with a few more with Ihome 2. Personally, despite ihome 2 and Skylive having a few more, the video quality is so bad, can't justify them as worthwhile. Even the basic NTV feed is bad for ihome 2. Whoever is streaming it occasionally leaves the channel display marker at top showing "Digital 4"

Video quality - Most important. Personally, I find WorldTV and Uchi TV best...maybe a smidgen better with Uchi TV due to the picture appearing a bit smoother but can't go wrong with either. ihome 2 is serviceable but not great. Skylive is very inconsistent. Sometimes you get HD quality, sometimes its like VCD

Functionality - If you want playback, Uchi TV and Ihome 2 are best. They offer 7 day playback. The caveat is dealing with wonky interface issues. Uchi feels slow as molasses IMO [this is on quad core 2 gb android box, 100 mbps connection] and I noticed playback missing some days occasionally. Ihome 2 is only wonky for fast forward rewind. it's like you have to wait a few hours after the show you want to catch up on before the ffwd/rwd work properly. WorldTV is super snappy but alas, only 5 days. Skylive has no playback feature but has porn...if you're looking for it :lol

Price - If price was a big issue, I'd say go Uchi TV. For all its quirks, 180USD is decent value. I can't endorse Skyline just because of its inconsistency. Personally, I like WorldTV best but its middle pack expensive at 198USD. iHome 2 at 200$...you might as well buy one of the boxes then.

Overall, I'd put it in this order. WorldTV>=UchiTV>>Ihome2>>>>>Skylive

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby kdjtachi65 » Sat Jul 11, 2015 4:56 pm

Baster wrote:
kdjtachi65 wrote:I don't think so. I believe that HIKARI (NEXT) is NTT's fiber-optic broadband service.

to be precise i mean http://www.hikaritv.net and this belongs to FLET'S

To be equally precise, it belongs to NTT Plala, which is majority owned by NTT. The service is only available through NTT's optical broadband service.

is there an official homepage ect .. where you can find the latest news and maybe alle the resseller

What little research I've done points to both the original linux iHome IP900 and the android iHome II box/APK being owned or controlled by Shenzhen Freesun Technology, but that's still a little murky. Their web presence is fragmented, but they seem to keep these two sites updated: http://freesuntv.en.alibaba.com, http://www.freesuntv.com. They're very responsive to emails.

what you think of my plan to buy a iptv box to Improve my Japanese Skills, is it a good approach? or should I save my money? :unsure:

All of the IPTV solutions have excellent audio quality, so if you're planning on watching/listening at least several hours a day (with the optional ability to rewind what you may have missed/misheard using playback), I'd say it's a great idea, considering the $15-$20USD monthly outlay.

kdjtachi65 wrote:I think it's possible we'll see an android-based iHome II+/III, with 70+ channels and external HDD recording, appear within the next 6-12 months.

Or I could be wrong, and the IP900's channel count will double next week.

How did you come up to that conclusion?

is there any sources for that statement

Nope.

Baster wrote:would you recommend to buy the entire ihome II box inkl. APK or to buy only the APK and buy an android box

If you're comfortable setting up android devices, including sideloading apps, configuring wired vs wireless connections and general tinkering, I'd recommend purchasing the android box and IPTV apk(s) separately. It's cheaper. And fun.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby jdl0523 » Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:16 am

Thank you both for your reply! I did purchase the iHome 2 from http://www.freesuntv.com. I went with "Pato's" recommendations and contacted Yetta from the http://www.freesuntv.com website. I have to say I was more impressed than I thought I would be. I am always skeptical to purchase items from mainland China when there is not that much information about them. However, this was an amazing experience and I wanted to share the reasons I was so impressed as well as some of my experience and thought process on here in case it helps anyone else:
1) I received the product as advertised within 5 days from mainland China to Southern New Hampshire in the United States.
2) I received a private message from "Pato" telling me his name to let Yetta know that he referred me to her(thank you Pato). I did mention his name and she remembers him, where he is from, why he bought iHome 2 and very many details about him. I found this to be amazing given that she probably has many customers, but actually remembers him so well.
3) While her English was not perfect, Yetta's English is very good. It is certainly much better than my Mandrin! The bottom line is that despite not being a native English speaker, she made sure that I got everything that I needed and I was satisfied with my purchase.
4) The company's website has something to be desired when it comes to the English explanation of how the box works. However, again, Yetta(and Jessica) was very responsive.
5) Once you get the box and connect it, go over to http://www.freesuntv.com and email your salesperson and Jessica Lau with your username and password(the two numbers on the sticker on the side of the box) and include the country you are using the box in and they will set you up within a few days. Even when I sent it to them on a Saturday, they set it up.
6) I had read many reviews stating that there were "issues" with the quality of the iHome 2 picture. So far it is better than my cable provider(Comcast). I would definitely not pick an iHome over an iHome 2 given early reviews of the quality. Perhaps it was not good back then, but it is great now!!
7) I was initially torn between purchasing this box from http://www.freesuntv.com or http://japannettv.com. The primary reason for this was that I really liked the website of the http://japannettv.com more. However, after hearing the testimony of "Pato", I took a risk and went with http://www.freesuntv.com. However, in the meantime I had emailed http://www.japannettv.com and received and email back from "Hajime (Jimmy) N...". It just so happens that when you go to Aliexpresss(the main place that these boxes are now sold) that 8 of the top 10 reviews are from a user named "Hajime N..." This is either an amazing coincidence, or there is a Japanese person in New Zealand re-selling these same boxes for a premium price.
8) I would purchase this product through aliexpress, rather than any other method. Aliexpress is a very large company(part of Alibaba-which is bigger than Amazon) and they have an interesting feature which requires customers to confirm receipt of the product and offering them an opportunity to open a dispute if the product was not received, or not received as represented. I found this feature reassuring. This is the specific product I purchased: http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/6764 ... 7974252720
9) I should note that with Aliexpress there was an interesting purchasing experience in that my credit card kept getting declined when trying to check out. I assumed that this was due to fraud protection, but when calling my cc company, I discovered it was not. The Aliexpresss helpdesk told me to download the app to my smartphone(iPhone) and pay through the app, which worked. Not sure why their app worked, but their site did not, but i do not much care as long as it works.
10) I even ended up adding Yetta to Wechat(messaging app) and Skype to keep in touch. I really enjoyed this experience, and I hope that other do too.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby frag2 » Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:55 pm

FYI for those interested in uchiTV - found it cheaper at http://www.tde-mall.com/productsview.aspx?id=1198

115USD vs Japannettv's 180USD

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby kdjtachi65 » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:56 pm

frag2 wrote:So I've tested all the APKs and here's my take
...
Channels ... 2. Personally, despite ihome 2 and Skylive having a few more, the video quality is so bad, can't justify them as worthwhile....

ihome 2 is serviceable but not great...

Overall, I'd put it in this order. WorldTV>=UchiTV>>Ihome2>>>>>Skylive


Frag2, just to confirm, did you base your review on the updated iHome II ak that came out around the end of May, or the version with the old menu interface? I just finished testing the updated version and noticed a signifcant improvement in picture quality.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby supabakakun » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:19 am

kdjtachi65 wrote:
frag2 wrote:So I've tested all the APKs and here's my take
...
Channels ... 2. Personally, despite ihome 2 and Skylive having a few more, the video quality is so bad, can't justify them as worthwhile....

ihome 2 is serviceable but not great...

Overall, I'd put it in this order. WorldTV>=UchiTV>>Ihome2>>>>>Skylive


Frag2, just to confirm, did you base your review on the updated iHome II ak that came out around the end of May, or the version with the old menu interface? I just finished testing the updated version and noticed a signifcant improvement in picture quality.


iHome II looks better than in it did earlier this year, but I think it is has poor image quality when compared to the other solutions. It has a lot of "jaggies" for still images.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby frag2 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:15 am

kdjtachi65 wrote:
frag2 wrote:So I've tested all the APKs and here's my take
...
Channels ... 2. Personally, despite ihome 2 and Skylive having a few more, the video quality is so bad, can't justify them as worthwhile....

ihome 2 is serviceable but not great...

Overall, I'd put it in this order. WorldTV>=UchiTV>>Ihome2>>>>>Skylive


Frag2, just to confirm, did you base your review on the updated iHome II ak that came out around the end of May, or the version with the old menu interface? I just finished testing the updated version and noticed a signifcant improvement in picture quality.


I tested since June so I would assume that's the new iHome 2 interface. I found video quality disappointing though not as bad as Skylive.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby frag2 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:16 am

supabakakun wrote:
kdjtachi65 wrote:
frag2 wrote:So I've tested all the APKs and here's my take
...
Channels ... 2. Personally, despite ihome 2 and Skylive having a few more, the video quality is so bad, can't justify them as worthwhile....

ihome 2 is serviceable but not great...

Overall, I'd put it in this order. WorldTV>=UchiTV>>Ihome2>>>>>Skylive


Frag2, just to confirm, did you base your review on the updated iHome II ak that came out around the end of May, or the version with the old menu interface? I just finished testing the updated version and noticed a signifcant improvement in picture quality.


iHome II looks better than in it did earlier this year, but I think it is has poor image quality when compared to the other solutions. It has a lot of "jaggies" for still images.


I cant comment on what it looked like earlier in the year but it definitely lags behind World TV and Uchi.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby frag2 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:17 am

jdl0523 wrote:Thank you both for your reply! I did purchase the iHome 2 from http://www.freesuntv.com. I went with "Pato's" recommendations and contacted Yetta from the http://www.freesuntv.com website. I have to say I was more impressed than I thought I would be. I am always skeptical to purchase items from mainland China when there is not that much information about them. However, this was an amazing experience and I wanted to share the reasons I was so impressed as well as some of my experience and thought process on here in case it helps anyone else:
1) I received the product as advertised within 5 days from mainland China to Southern New Hampshire in the United States.
2) I received a private message from "Pato" telling me his name to let Yetta know that he referred me to her(thank you Pato). I did mention his name and she remembers him, where he is from, why he bought iHome 2 and very many details about him. I found this to be amazing given that she probably has many customers, but actually remembers him so well.
3) While her English was not perfect, Yetta's English is very good. It is certainly much better than my Mandrin! The bottom line is that despite not being a native English speaker, she made sure that I got everything that I needed and I was satisfied with my purchase.
4) The company's website has something to be desired when it comes to the English explanation of how the box works. However, again, Yetta(and Jessica) was very responsive.
5) Once you get the box and connect it, go over to http://www.freesuntv.com and email your salesperson and Jessica Lau with your username and password(the two numbers on the sticker on the side of the box) and include the country you are using the box in and they will set you up within a few days. Even when I sent it to them on a Saturday, they set it up.
6) I had read many reviews stating that there were "issues" with the quality of the iHome 2 picture. So far it is better than my cable provider(Comcast). I would definitely not pick an iHome over an iHome 2 given early reviews of the quality. Perhaps it was not good back then, but it is great now!!
7) I was initially torn between purchasing this box from http://www.freesuntv.com or http://japannettv.com. The primary reason for this was that I really liked the website of the http://japannettv.com more. However, after hearing the testimony of "Pato", I took a risk and went with http://www.freesuntv.com. However, in the meantime I had emailed http://www.japannettv.com and received and email back from "Hajime (Jimmy) N...". It just so happens that when you go to Aliexpresss(the main place that these boxes are now sold) that 8 of the top 10 reviews are from a user named "Hajime N..." This is either an amazing coincidence, or there is a Japanese person in New Zealand re-selling these same boxes for a premium price.
8) I would purchase this product through aliexpress, rather than any other method. Aliexpress is a very large company(part of Alibaba-which is bigger than Amazon) and they have an interesting feature which requires customers to confirm receipt of the product and offering them an opportunity to open a dispute if the product was not received, or not received as represented. I found this feature reassuring. This is the specific product I purchased: http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/6764 ... 7974252720
9) I should note that with Aliexpress there was an interesting purchasing experience in that my credit card kept getting declined when trying to check out. I assumed that this was due to fraud protection, but when calling my cc company, I discovered it was not. The Aliexpresss helpdesk told me to download the app to my smartphone(iPhone) and pay through the app, which worked. Not sure why their app worked, but their site did not, but i do not much care as long as it works.
10) I even ended up adding Yetta to Wechat(messaging app) and Skype to keep in touch. I really enjoyed this experience, and I hope that other do too.


I'm assuming this iHome 2 box is just an android box running the apk?

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby pato » Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:27 am

frag2 wrote:
jdl0523 wrote:Thank you both for your reply! I did purchase the iHome 2 from http://www.freesuntv.com. I went with "Pato's" recommendations and contacted Yetta from the http://www.freesuntv.com website. I have to say I was more impressed than I thought I would be. I am always skeptical to purchase items from mainland China when there is not that much information about them. However, this was an amazing experience and I wanted to share the reasons I was so impressed as well as some of my experience and thought process on here in case it helps anyone else:
1) I received the product as advertised within 5 days from mainland China to Southern New Hampshire in the United States.
2) I received a private message from "Pato" telling me his name to let Yetta know that he referred me to her(thank you Pato). I did mention his name and she remembers him, where he is from, why he bought iHome 2 and very many details about him. I found this to be amazing given that she probably has many customers, but actually remembers him so well.
3) While her English was not perfect, Yetta's English is very good. It is certainly much better than my Mandrin! The bottom line is that despite not being a native English speaker, she made sure that I got everything that I needed and I was satisfied with my purchase.
4) The company's website has something to be desired when it comes to the English explanation of how the box works. However, again, Yetta(and Jessica) was very responsive.
5) Once you get the box and connect it, go over to http://www.freesuntv.com and email your salesperson and Jessica Lau with your username and password(the two numbers on the sticker on the side of the box) and include the country you are using the box in and they will set you up within a few days. Even when I sent it to them on a Saturday, they set it up.
6) I had read many reviews stating that there were "issues" with the quality of the iHome 2 picture. So far it is better than my cable provider(Comcast). I would definitely not pick an iHome over an iHome 2 given early reviews of the quality. Perhaps it was not good back then, but it is great now!!
7) I was initially torn between purchasing this box from http://www.freesuntv.com or http://japannettv.com. The primary reason for this was that I really liked the website of the http://japannettv.com more. However, after hearing the testimony of "Pato", I took a risk and went with http://www.freesuntv.com. However, in the meantime I had emailed http://www.japannettv.com and received and email back from "Hajime (Jimmy) N...". It just so happens that when you go to Aliexpresss(the main place that these boxes are now sold) that 8 of the top 10 reviews are from a user named "Hajime N..." This is either an amazing coincidence, or there is a Japanese person in New Zealand re-selling these same boxes for a premium price.
8) I would purchase this product through aliexpress, rather than any other method. Aliexpress is a very large company(part of Alibaba-which is bigger than Amazon) and they have an interesting feature which requires customers to confirm receipt of the product and offering them an opportunity to open a dispute if the product was not received, or not received as represented. I found this feature reassuring. This is the specific product I purchased: http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/6764 ... 7974252720
9) I should note that with Aliexpress there was an interesting purchasing experience in that my credit card kept getting declined when trying to check out. I assumed that this was due to fraud protection, but when calling my cc company, I discovered it was not. The Aliexpresss helpdesk told me to download the app to my smartphone(iPhone) and pay through the app, which worked. Not sure why their app worked, but their site did not, but i do not much care as long as it works.
10) I even ended up adding Yetta to Wechat(messaging app) and Skype to keep in touch. I really enjoyed this experience, and I hope that other do too.


I'm assuming this iHome 2 box is just an android box running the apk?

Maybe, but at least this iHome 2 box works properly, not like the M8 android box.
The M8 box remote doesn't even work well. When you turn it off, it only put the box at sleep.
When you want to completely turn off the box, you have to unplugged it.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby kdjtachi65 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:54 pm

The M8 boxes were assumed to run 24/7 and many didn't even have power buttons; you plug it in, it boots, just like any other STB. If you want yours to shutdown completely, try pressing and holding the remote's power button (or the box's, if it has one) for about 10 seconds. That may or may not work, depending on the box's firmware.

The newer MX boxes generally offer you the suspend/shutdown dialogue.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby frag2 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:00 pm

kdjtachi65 wrote:The M8 boxes were assumed to run 24/7 and many didn't even have power buttons; you plug it in, it boots, just like any other STB. If you want yours to shutdown completely, try pressing and holding the remote's power button (or the box's, if it has one) for about 10 seconds. That may or may not work, depending on the box's firmware.

The newer MX boxes generally offer you the suspend/shutdown dialogue.


I run a Tronsmart MX3 2GB variant. It allows me to suspend/power off but the suspend mode, depending on HDMI, might get wonky with the HDMI-TV-Android Box handshake.

Anyway, so is this the breakdown of "manufacturers" then?

IHome 2 apk/STB and IHOME IP900 - FreesunTV

UchiTV apk - TDE

MaigeTV - MaigeTV

I wonder who makes World TV...the initial sign in screen shows New Vision but who knows who the hell that is. I find that buying direct from manufacturers is cheaper than going to Japannettv.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby zanmat0 » Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:30 pm

What is the consensus on the best service for Windows streaming? Most of these providers only offer Android and I don't feel like complicating my life by running an emulator.

Any suggestions? Thanks :-)

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby frag2 » Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:04 pm

zanmat0 wrote:What is the consensus on the best service for Windows streaming? Most of these providers only offer Android and I don't feel like complicating my life by running an emulator.

Any suggestions? Thanks :-)


If you want free, tvapp.so IMO but there's no pvr playback. If timezone isn't your friend, it's not the best option but I find it the clearest and most stable and its free

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby frag2 » Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:24 pm

Lol Gina from Freesun notifies me that Japannettv is selling their products :D

So yea, its always cheaper to go direct then. Gonna see if I can find out who makes World TV now

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby kdjtachi65 » Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:00 pm

zanmat0 wrote:What is the consensus on the best service for Windows streaming? Most of these providers only offer Android and I don't feel like complicating my life by running an emulator.

Any suggestions? Thanks :-)


I tested JpPlayer a few months back. It offers about forty Japanese channels with good picture quality, but no playback available.

There's also an iHome Windows version with the same general channel count and the addition of 7-day playback, but I have no personal experience with it.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby frag2 » Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:13 pm

I think these guys make WorldTV

http://www.debao.tv/japan.html

I can't read chinese so SOL here for me to confirm

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby djandy76 » Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:06 pm

Has anyone experienced any problems with their iHome unit recently? Mine froze on the white map screen during the boot sequence, and refused to progress to the channel-select screen. Is this an indication something's failing in the unit itself, or perhaps the SD Card?

Any help would be most appreciated. Thanks!

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby pato » Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:43 pm

djandy76 wrote:Has anyone experienced any problems with their iHome unit recently? Mine froze on the white map screen during the boot sequence, and refused to progress to the channel-select screen. Is this an indication something's failing in the unit itself, or perhaps the SD Card?

Any help would be most appreciated. Thanks!

This happen to me one time in the past. I sent email to my seller and the problem was fix.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby djandy76 » Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:06 pm

Thanks, I'll give it a try!

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby agoshimamidori » Fri Jul 17, 2015 4:51 am

djandy76 wrote:Has anyone experienced any problems with their iHome unit recently? Mine froze on the white map screen during the boot sequence, and refused to progress to the channel-select screen. Is this an indication something's failing in the unit itself, or perhaps the SD Card?

Any help would be most appreciated. Thanks!


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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby risu » Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:49 am

djandy76 wrote:Has anyone experienced any problems with their iHome unit recently? Mine froze on the white map screen during the boot sequence, and refused to progress to the channel-select screen. Is this an indication something's failing in the unit itself, or perhaps the SD Card?

Any help would be most appreciated. Thanks!

Happened once in the past but not right now.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby frag2 » Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:47 pm

So with a few of you guys saying iHOME 2 standalone box is good, is the quality any different from the ihome 2/rakutv apk? I was never really impressed with the ihome 2 apk video quality [~July trial] and always thought Uchi was clearer. Granted Uchi used about 30gb when i ran it 3 days straight :lol

Gina keeps pestering now after I emailed...wth

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby pato » Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:13 pm

frag2 wrote:So with a few of you guys saying iHOME 2 standalone box is good, is the quality any different from the ihome 2/rakutv apk? I was never really impressed with the ihome 2 apk video quality [~July trial] and always thought Uchi was clearer. Granted Uchi used about 30gb when i ran it 3 days straight :lol

Gina keeps pestering now after I emailed...wth

For me the video quality was pretty much same.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby frag2 » Fri Jul 17, 2015 5:42 pm

pato wrote:
frag2 wrote:So with a few of you guys saying iHOME 2 standalone box is good, is the quality any different from the ihome 2/rakutv apk? I was never really impressed with the ihome 2 apk video quality [~July trial] and always thought Uchi was clearer. Granted Uchi used about 30gb when i ran it 3 days straight :lol

Gina keeps pestering now after I emailed...wth

For me the video quality was pretty much same.


I always found non fast moving to be superior with UchiTV [and likely iHome IP900] but with fast moving stuff like Music Station, it has issues catching up.

iHome2 looked consistent but wasn't exactly sharp

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby vadimec » Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:30 pm

Hey guys,

I am new to this forum. :salut:
if someone could answer a couple of my questions I would be deeply grateful.

I purchased my iHome TV box with 1 year free subscription around autumn 2013. Naturally my service ended a year after that, but due to work, family and all other stuff piling on, didn't really have time for TV.
I want to restart my subscription, but have a few questions before hand:
1. Do I absolutely have to renew a subscription form the same seller whom I purchased the box originally, or doesn't it not really matter. ( i found the email address of the guy whom i contacted when i was activating it the first time, but haven't had reply back from him yet, so I am getting worried. :sweat:

2. Is the service still as good/better than it was about 1-1,5 years ago?

3. This discussion has been going on for a while and is quite long, but I have done my best to get as much information as i could. However I am still uncertain if there is currently any particular leaders in this market providing Japanese TV abroad (with playback options). Back in the day I spent quite a bit of time researching this topic before making a purchase and was generally really pleased with the service, but since the price is mainly for the 1 year subscription and not the box itself, I wouldn't mind buying another IPTV box if it offers a better service/cost.


Once again i would be deeply grateful for any information.

Vadim.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby jtvmania » Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:46 am

vadimec wrote:Hey guys,
1. Do I absolutely have to renew a subscription form the same seller whom I purchased the box originally, or doesn't it not really matter. ( i found the email address of the guy whom i contacted when i was activating it the first time, but haven't had reply back from him yet, so I am getting worried. :sweat:

2. Is the service still as good/better than it was about 1-1,5 years ago?

3. This discussion has been going on for a while and is quite long, but I have done my best to get as much information as i could. However I am still uncertain if there is currently any particular leaders in this market providing Japanese TV abroad (with playback options). Back in the day I spent quite a bit of time researching this topic before making a purchase and was generally really pleased with the service, but since the price is mainly for the 1 year subscription and not the box itself, I wouldn't mind buying another IPTV box if it offers a better service/cost.


Once again i would be deeply grateful for any information.

Vadim.


Nice to meet you everybody. We have been selling, testing various Japanese boxes and apps so hopefully we can assist here.

1. Yes you have to go through original seller as it is locked to particular agent. You could try talking to another seller but they cannot change that 98% of time from our experience.

2. The service has been consistent. They kept the quality at this time. We heard they added extra server recently so you would expect to see slight shortened load time depending on where you are.

3. We have tested various boxes and apk and iHome still offer quality service over other competitors. Recent box offer more channels but bit less quality. If those guys improve picture quality, iHome would loose top choice.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby pato » Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:36 am

jtvmania wrote:
vadimec wrote:Hey guys,
1. Do I absolutely have to renew a subscription form the same seller whom I purchased the box originally, or doesn't it not really matter. ( i found the email address of the guy whom i contacted when i was activating it the first time, but haven't had reply back from him yet, so I am getting worried. :sweat:

2. Is the service still as good/better than it was about 1-1,5 years ago?

3. This discussion has been going on for a while and is quite long, but I have done my best to get as much information as i could. However I am still uncertain if there is currently any particular leaders in this market providing Japanese TV abroad (with playback options). Back in the day I spent quite a bit of time researching this topic before making a purchase and was generally really pleased with the service, but since the price is mainly for the 1 year subscription and not the box itself, I wouldn't mind buying another IPTV box if it offers a better service/cost.


Once again i would be deeply grateful for any information.

Vadim.


Nice to meet you everybody. We have been selling, testing various Japanese boxes and apps so hopefully we can assist here.

1. Yes you have to go through original seller as it is locked to particular agent. You could try talking to another seller but they cannot change that 98% of time from our experience.

2. The service has been consistent. They kept the quality at this time. We heard they added extra server recently so you would expect to see slight shortened load time depending on where you are.

3. We have tested various boxes and apk and iHome still offer quality service over other competitors. Recent box offer more channels but bit less quality. If those guys improve picture quality, iHome would loose top choice.

For quality and reliability, iHome IP900 and Hikari are really the best.
Picture quality is the best and also there is not really any buffering or freezing issues when your watching live tv or replay.
Also for me, i feel quality of picture is the best on both tv box compare to other service.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby jtvmania » Sat Jul 18, 2015 5:44 am

pato wrote:For quality and reliability, iHome IP900 and Hikari are really the best.
Picture quality is the best and also there is not really any buffering or freezing issues when your watching live tv or replay.
Also for me, i feel quality of picture is the best on both tv box compare to other service.


Yes Hikari (光世代) is also a good option. Similar picture quality to iHome. More channel and VOD is a plus. 8) We had experienced server trouble last year and have not tried last few month. Have they upgraded their service?

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby pato » Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:00 am

jtvmania wrote:
pato wrote:For quality and reliability, iHome IP900 and Hikari are really the best.
Picture quality is the best and also there is not really any buffering or freezing issues when your watching live tv or replay.
Also for me, i feel quality of picture is the best on both tv box compare to other service.


Yes Hikari (光世代) is also a good option. Similar picture quality to iHome. More channel and VOD is a plus. 8) We had experienced server trouble last year and have not tried last few month. Have they upgraded their service?

I just got Hikari 2 days ago. For now it really works well. Even VOD works really well and you have so much choice for movies. I love it as much as i love my iHome IP900.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby vadimec » Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:36 am

jtvmania wrote:Nice to meet you everybody. We have been selling, testing various Japanese boxes and apps so hopefully we can assist here.

1. Yes you have to go through original seller as it is locked to particular agent. You could try talking to another seller but they cannot change that 98% of time from our experience.

2. The service has been consistent. They kept the quality at this time. We heard they added extra server recently so you would expect to see slight shortened load time depending on where you are.

3. We have tested various boxes and apk and iHome still offer quality service over other competitors. Recent box offer more channels but bit less quality. If those guys improve picture quality, iHome would loose top choice.


JTVMania-san and others, thank you very much for your answers.
At first I became sort of dissapointed because I still haven't heard back from my provider, at the time I read your answers. But just as I started writing reply to this thread an email came back from him! They are still working and the price hasn't changed (240$).
So it seems I won't have to buy another box at least for another year. 8)
I will keep my eye on Hikari though, since the search and controls seem really nice.

Once again thank you all for the answers.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby frag2 » Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:02 pm

So I got this from Gina...she's still pestering to buy buy buy

Dear Frag ,

​These all versions we have before , but now some of them we stopped selling .
1. Hikari : we call it guangshidai , it is linux system , the replay is not so good . So had better buy Ihome IP900 .

2. Uchi : It is the cheapest , but the quality is not so good on the whole , it does not have much investment on servers , before it sometimes stops .

3.World TV : The picture quality is very good . It only has 5 days replay , and stability on the whole is not so good as Ihome IP900 .

Thanks .


​Best regards ,
​Gina

What's this investment on servers thing? Perhaps someone that has the standalone Ihome 2 can chime in on how much "better" IHome2 is vs Ip900's video quality

She's quoted me 2 prices [1 for either box] and its significantly cheaper than what is being offered.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby pato » Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:38 pm

frag2 wrote:So I got this from Gina...she's still pestering to buy buy buy

Dear Frag ,

​These all versions we have before , but now some of them we stopped selling .
1. Hikari : we call it guangshidai , it is linux system , the replay is not so good . So had better buy Ihome IP900 .

2. Uchi : It is the cheapest , but the quality is not so good on the whole , it does not have much investment on servers , before it sometimes stops .

3.World TV : The picture quality is very good . It only has 5 days replay , and stability on the whole is not so good as Ihome IP900 .

Thanks .


​Best regards ,
​Gina

What's this investment on servers thing? Perhaps someone that has the standalone Ihome 2 can chime in on how much "better" IHome2 is vs Ip900's video quality

She's quoted me 2 prices [1 for either box] and its significantly cheaper than what is being offered.

Hikari works really well. Picture is really good, similar to iHome IP900. Some channels seems to be real HD on Hikari. Also Hikari as more channels then iHome IP900. The replay works well, with some channels the replay is a minute late but when it's the case i go to previous hour and fast forward(so it's not a big deal). There is few channels you don't have replay so in that case i use an HDMI recorder.

iHome IP900 video quality is better then iHome 2. Not a huge difference i think but better.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby Postmastur » Sun Jul 19, 2015 1:24 pm

pato wrote:
frag2 wrote:



iHome IP900 video quality is better then iHome 2. Not a huge difference i think but better.



It has been proved that iHome will blur pretty bad during high speed motion. And it will not show much detail when a lot of flashing on the screen.


Sane video, one is Maige, one is iHome. In fact, I would recommend anything (uchi, hikari, maige) but ihome.

Maige TV
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ukweu

iHome
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2untwe

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby lindilou » Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:03 pm

Postmastur wrote:
pato wrote:
frag2 wrote:



iHome IP900 video quality is better then iHome 2. Not a huge difference i think but better.



It has been proved that iHome will blur pretty bad during high speed motion. And it will not show much detail when a lot of flashing on the screen.


Sane video, one is Maige, one is iHome. In fact, I would recommend anything (uchi, hikari, maige) but ihome.

Maige TV
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ukweu

iHome
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2untwe

It seems that Maige TV has better picture quality and the audio on the iHome is out of sync. It seems the only bad things about Maige TV are it doesn't have a recording feature, and doesn't have Tokyo MX (1 & 2) and Kansai channels.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby frag2 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:25 pm

lindilou wrote:It seems that Maige TV has better picture quality and the audio on the iHome is out of sync. It seems the only bad things about Maige TV are it doesn't have a recording feature, and doesn't have Tokyo MX (1 & 2) and Kansai channels.


and that its crazy expensive for initial costs

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby Postmastur » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:02 am

frag2 wrote:
lindilou wrote:It seems that Maige TV has better picture quality and the audio on the iHome is out of sync. It seems the only bad things about Maige TV are it doesn't have a recording feature, and doesn't have Tokyo MX (1 & 2) and Kansai channels.


and that its crazy expensive for initial costs


According to Japannettv.com, all IPTV are pretty much the same price....

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby risu » Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:14 am

pato wrote:Hikari works really well. Picture is really good, similar to iHome IP900. Some channels seems to be real HD on Hikari. Also Hikari as more channels then iHome IP900. The replay works well, with some channels the replay is a minute late but when it's the case i go to previous hour and fast forward(so it's not a big deal). There is few channels you don't have replay so in that case i use an HDMI recorder.

iHome IP900 video quality is better then iHome 2. Not a huge difference i think but better.

Thanks for your feedback on the Hikari box.
Next month i have to renew my iHome subscription but i might be interested in another product with the same image quality.
Please keep informing us about your Hikari experience :mrgreen:

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby pato » Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:42 am

risu wrote:
pato wrote:Hikari works really well. Picture is really good, similar to iHome IP900. Some channels seems to be real HD on Hikari. Also Hikari as more channels then iHome IP900. The replay works well, with some channels the replay is a minute late but when it's the case i go to previous hour and fast forward(so it's not a big deal). There is few channels you don't have replay so in that case i use an HDMI recorder.

iHome IP900 video quality is better then iHome 2. Not a huge difference i think but better.

Thanks for your feedback on the Hikari box.
Next month i have to renew my iHome subscription but i might be interested in another product with the same image quality.
Please keep informing us about your Hikari experience :mrgreen:

I really enjoy the VOD option. There's many movies. When you open the VOD menu page it's a little slow to upload all the movies pictures but untill now they all work well, no buffering or freezing and quality of picture is really nice.
One thing that i'm not so crazy about with the Hikari box is the kind of red orange interface background picture that looks Chinese and doesn't fit with Japanese tv i think. But it's nothing important, just my personnal preferance. Doesn't affect anything with Hikari performance.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby lindilou » Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:22 pm

Postmastur wrote:
frag2 wrote:
lindilou wrote:It seems that Maige TV has better picture quality and the audio on the iHome is out of sync. It seems the only bad things about Maige TV are it doesn't have a recording feature, and doesn't have Tokyo MX (1 & 2) and Kansai channels.


and that its crazy expensive for initial costs


According to Japannettv.com, all IPTV are pretty much the same price....

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Well, actually iHome is more expensive especially the subscription renewals.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby frag2 » Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:30 pm

All the prices listed there are overpriced by ~50USD min.

The price Freesun offered me was ~100USD less than what they are selling at Japannettv

Likewise UchiTV for 115USD

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby risu » Tue Jul 21, 2015 6:16 am

frag2 wrote:All the prices listed there are overpriced by ~50USD min.

Absolutely. IHome is 269$ on Aliexpress !

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby Postmastur » Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:41 pm

frag2 wrote:All the prices listed there are overpriced by ~50USD min.

The price Freesun offered me was ~100USD less than what they are selling at Japannettv

Likewise UchiTV for 115USD



Actually, all these English website are overprice. I used the English website just for relative price comparison. As all these units are coming from China, the cheapest way to buy these stuffs are order directly from the China "ebay" site, which is Taobao.com

For example, the ihome IP900 cost RMB 1400 = USD 225 , the renewal fee for 13 months is RMB 1100 = USD 177 . You can't beat this price anywhere on English website. ihome the machine is cheap, but the renewal fee is expensive.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.13.iDV1yW&id=43207032910&ns=1&abbucket=9#detail


Magie on the other hand cost RMB 1988 = USD 320. The price is standard across taobao.com. The renewal fee however is only RMB 500 = USD 80

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.9.mLW0Mz&id=42326658953&ns=1&abbucket=9#detail


Harika IPTV, which is called 光世代, the machine is RMB 1700 = USD 273, the renewal fee however is expensive RMB 1200 = USD 193.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.1.yeOtBI&id=37929406908&ns=1&abbucket=9#detail

So, if you look at the price and renewal fee, they are pretty much the same. Either you pay more on machine, or you pay more on renewal fee. Given the overall price is the same if you decide to use more than 1 year, I would get the one with better video quality which Magie shines (I have yet find another IPTV beat this video quality on Magie http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ukweu) or Hirika with better channel selection (have Tokyo MX!!) than ihome IP900 anytime anyday.

Note: No, you can't order from taobao.com because they don't ship oversea, and 99.99% of the sellers over there don't speak English.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby agoshimamidori » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:38 am

Postmastur wrote:
frag2 wrote:All the prices listed there are overpriced by ~50USD min.

The price Freesun offered me was ~100USD less than what they are selling at Japannettv

Likewise UchiTV for 115USD



Actually, all these English website are overprice. I used the English website just for relative price comparison. As all these units are coming from China, the cheapest way to buy these stuffs are order directly from the China "ebay" site, which is Taobao.com

For example, the ihome IP900 cost RMB 1400 = USD 225 , the renewal fee for 13 months is RMB 1100 = USD 177 . You can't beat this price anywhere on English website. ihome the machine is cheap, but the renewal fee is expensive.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.13.iDV1yW&id=43207032910&ns=1&abbucket=9#detail


Magie on the other hand cost RMB 1988 = USD 320. The price is standard across taobao.com. The renewal fee however is only RMB 500 = USD 80

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.9.mLW0Mz&id=42326658953&ns=1&abbucket=9#detail


Harika IPTV, which is called 光世代, the machine is RMB 1700 = USD 273, the renewal fee however is expensive RMB 1200 = USD 193.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.1.yeOtBI&id=37929406908&ns=1&abbucket=9#detail

So, if you look at the price and renewal fee, they are pretty much the same. Either you pay more on machine, or you pay more on renewal fee. Given the overall price is the same if you decide to use more than 1 year, I would get the one with better video quality which Magie shines (I have yet find another IPTV beat this video quality on Magie http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ukweu) or Hirika with better channel selection (have Tokyo MX!!) than ihome IP900 anytime anyday.

Note: No, you can't order from taobao.com because they don't ship oversea, and 99.99% of the sellers over there don't speak English.


I bought Ihome IP900 from Gina from Freesuntv with usd225 one year ago , not sure how much do they sell it now ? And Ihome IP900 have strick renewal rule . If you buy from one supplier , then less possibility to renew from other suppliers even though the renewal cost is much cheaper .
So choose a good supplier is very important .

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby frag2 » Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:59 am

After trial, ended up with UchiTV in the end. The picture quality on Ihome2 is way too inconsistent and lately, lots of stop and stuttering [I have 100mbps connection so it definitely aint a slow connection issue]. Plus, UchiTV was cheaper. Sure, it has fewer channels and missing stuff like FightingTV and Music Japan but during the Ihome2 trial, neither of them ran without a hitch.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby renarayne » Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:07 pm

frag2 wrote:I always found non fast moving to be superior with UchiTV [and likely iHome IP900] but with fast moving stuff like Music Station, it has issues catching up.


Yeah sadly I find the same, the picture has broken up pretty badly for me sometimes when the camera has swung round and such and there's usually artifacting around movement, but still moments the quality is very nice, I wish it handled movement better.

lindilou wrote:It seems that Maige TV has better picture quality and the audio on the iHome is out of sync. It seems the only bad things about Maige TV are it doesn't have a recording feature, and doesn't have Tokyo MX (1 & 2) and Kansai channels.


Ah I was considering Maige TV after my Uchi subscription after seeing the video on this thread with the superior motion handling, but if it doesn't have Kansai channels (e.g. Yomiuri, KTV, Osaka TV) that's no use to me since there's a Kansai-based comedian I follow. Playback is handy too of course, being in the UK.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby GavinTan » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:36 am

I don't know how much experience everyone's got with Android TV. Given it's now the official Android flavour from Google for TV's and now appearing on all Sony 2015 Smart TV models including the Google Nexus Player.

I've tested iHome APK from FreeSun and it's appalling. 90% of the time it doesn't want to load a video, when it does constant buffering and video pausing makes it unusable. Tested on an Android Mobile phone, and it works perfectly. Basically the APK needs to be re-written to support the Android TV OS platform.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby sbm888 » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:44 am

been using WorldTV for the past few months - quite happy with it, and so are my kids and wife. Only real reason we picked this over UchiTv was because of Disney Channel. the kids love it and have so much to watch along with Animax.

but downside is the 5 day recording only. means we have to watch things quickly - especially anime (Princess Precure, Dragonball and One Piece, etc) - which is normally shown on sundays.... if it had 7 day playback, it would be the best by a mile.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby pato » Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:08 am

sbm888 wrote:been using WorldTV for the past few months - quite happy with it, and so are my kids and wife. Only real reason we picked this over UchiTv was because of Disney Channel. the kids love it and have so much to watch along with Animax.

but downside is the 5 day recording only. means we have to watch things quickly - especially anime (Princess Precure, Dragonball and One Piece, etc) - which is normally shown on sundays.... if it had 7 day playback, it would be the best by a mile.

Thats why i love iHome! You have 7 days playback and you can even record.
You could use an hd game recorder with your WorldTV.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby risu » Wed Jul 29, 2015 7:21 am

vchick2 wrote:I found a website to watch JDrama in HD Quality for FREE, you may like this site :-) (Insert URL here). :thumleft:

Please stop spamming the forum with your website. :offtopic:

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Postby Keiko1981 » Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:57 am

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vchick2 wrote:I found a website to watch JDrama in HD Quality for FREE, you may like this site :-) (Insert URL here). :thumleft:

Please stop spamming the forum with your website. :offtopic:

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby frag2 » Wed Jul 29, 2015 2:14 pm

sbm888 wrote:been using WorldTV for the past few months - quite happy with it, and so are my kids and wife. Only real reason we picked this over UchiTv was because of Disney Channel. the kids love it and have so much to watch along with Animax.

but downside is the 5 day recording only. means we have to watch things quickly - especially anime (Princess Precure, Dragonball and One Piece, etc) - which is normally shown on sundays.... if it had 7 day playback, it would be the best by a mile.



I too agree WorldTV is probably the best in quality and stability with biggest downside being the PVR is 5 days. If it werent for the fact its so freaking expensive for just startup and renewal, I wouldve chose that.

Instead, I did uchiTV for 115USD straight from provider instead of JapannetTVs ~200USD

If only can find the WorldTV actual provider and not these resellers...

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby frag2 » Thu Jul 30, 2015 12:36 am

I noticed for UchiTV, fast moving is actually really good if you're watching it via playback and not live. Was watching the Fuji Summer Music Festival live and it was choppy and macroblocking.

Tested it via Playback later in the day and it was smooth

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby renarayne » Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:02 pm

frag2 wrote:I noticed for UchiTV, fast moving is actually really good if you're watching it via playback and not live. Was watching the Fuji Summer Music Festival live and it was choppy and macroblocking.
Tested it via Playback later in the day and it was smooth


I guess it depends on the program. I watch everything via playback so my earlier comment about it breaking up on quick movements was in relation to that, I mainly watch stuff from the Kansai channels.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby statrosa » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:37 am

Hi Guys, topic is still running strong.

I love the TVapp.so solution mentioned above, it is really High Quality image.

Does anyone know if Maige TV software is available as stand alone app (Android APK)?
I already have a nice Android box and do not need to purchase another one.

I'm looking for a subscription that has Fuji One and Fuji Two.
Maige TV is the only one that has these channels and also has playback support.
It does not matter if it is on Windows, OSX or Android.


Update: I know that NicoNico Japan has these channels digital with playback, but they do not accept foreign credit cards. I also had these channels with Slingbox rental, but there is no playback, there is recording, but for me a lot of hassle.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby kdjtachi65 » Mon Aug 03, 2015 7:42 pm

statrosa wrote:Does anyone know if Maige TV software is available as stand alone app (Android APK)?
I already have a nice Android box and do not need to purchase another one.

Unfortunately MaigeTV is linux-based, so no apk would be available.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby statrosa » Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:03 am

kdjtachi65 wrote:
statrosa wrote:Does anyone know if Maige TV software is available as stand alone app (Android APK)?
I already have a nice Android box and do not need to purchase another one.

Unfortunately MaigeTV is linux-based, so no apk would be available.



I did not know that, thank you.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby frag2 » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:59 am

So does anyone know how to record from UchiTV off the android boxes? Like not via PC connected but screen record?

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby moshimoshipuusan » Mon Aug 10, 2015 4:30 pm

frag2 wrote:So does anyone know how to record from UchiTV off the android boxes? Like not via PC connected but screen record?



I haven't done this myself so I can't say with absolute certainty, but if you're using an Android box and connecting it to your TV to view, I would think that you can use the same method that PS/XBox gamers often use to record their gaming sessions. I think the Elgato Game Capture units and the Hauppauge PVRs are pretty popular but you should probably Google for better alternatives and specifics.

From what I remember reading in this thread, for anyone using the Uchi .apk on a tablet/phone, I don't believe there's a way to record the shows (at least not without a lot of technical know-how and experimenting).

Good luck.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby jtvmania » Mon Aug 10, 2015 4:59 pm

frag2 wrote:So does anyone know how to record from UchiTV off the android boxes? Like not via PC connected but screen record?


I use ordinarily HDMI recorder which records to USB HDD drive. As moshimoshipuusan suggest, game capture should work too. It might be more convenient to get one with H.264 hardware encoder loaded if you have lots of shows to record and store.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby supabakakun » Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:04 pm

NHK World has never worked on MaigeTV since I have owned it. Today I turned it on to watch Music On TV, and it has the same maintenance message as NHK World. :-( It was my favorite channel to watch Japanese Music Videos. MaigeTV doesn't seem to be giving Japanese TV much love. A few times I saw they left the Satellite channel identifier on TBS on which took up a large part of the top of the screen.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby fischer22 » Thu Aug 13, 2015 2:10 pm

kenji321 wrote:looks good. channel switching is practically instant.

from what I can tell the streams are in 720p. With a little bit of effort I was able to get the stream to play in vlc.


How did you do it? You had to use something extra for live encoding or something? Thanks for any help!

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby luchojoazul » Mon Aug 17, 2015 4:27 am

hello, is my first time here , and newer in a world of iptv boxes, thanks a lot for all info give us, i have a question related in channel list zapping in HIkari TV and MAige TV, AT-X or Music On! works in both???.. and the quality please thanks!

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby Vince3 » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:28 am

Hello Guys, It's my first post on this forum.

I'm having a big problem with my iHome IP900 that I bought from Lee at Shenzhen Sunvysat LTD's store
(I bought it in december 2012 and it's the first time I have so much trouble with it).

Since the 5th of July, it can't connect to the server anymore, the blue LED on the front panel of the iHome doesn't turn on neither.
After runing the diagnostic software countless of time, I still have the same errors
(Upgrade URL Failed (1006), Home page Failed (1006).

Does anyone else here have the same problem, especially in europe?

I've read a lot about this topic on this forum and tried many things (the famous 246838, Formated the SD card, Changed the SD Card, Changed the secondary DNS for 8.8.8.8 or 114.114.114.114, Reseted the iHome and the router, I tried it in an other place to be sure that my connection and router were not the problems).

Of course, I contacted my seller every week since the problem started but Mr Lee doesn't answer, like sensui123 said previously
"am I at the mercy of my seller that holds the subscription?".

Is there anything else I can try to make it work again? Should I contact another seller?

Any help would be highly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

P.S: Sorry for my poor english

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby pato » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:34 am

Vince3 wrote:Hello Guys, It's my first post on this forum.

I'm having a big problem with my iHome IP900 that I bought from Lee at Shenzhen Sunvysat LTD's store
(I bought it in december 2012 and it's the first time I have so much trouble with it).

Since the 5th of July, it can't connect to the server anymore, the blue LED on the front panel of the iHome doesn't turn on neither.
After runing the diagnostic software countless of time, I still have the same errors
(Upgrade URL Failed (1006), Home page Failed (1006).

Does anyone else here have the same problem, especially in europe?

I've read a lot about this topic on this forum and tried many things (the famous 246838, Formated the SD card, Changed the SD Card, Changed the secondary DNS for 8.8.8.8 or 114.114.114.114, Reseted the iHome and the router, I tried it in an other place to be sure that my connection and router were not the problems).

Of course, I contacted my seller every week since the problem started but Mr Lee doesn't answer, like sensui123 said previously
"am I at the mercy of my seller that holds the subscription?".

Is there anything else I can try to make it work again? Should I contact another seller?

Any help would be highly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

P.S: Sorry for my poor english

I dont have any problems yet with my iHome IP900 that i purchase from Lee at Shenzhen Sunvysat LTD's store but sometimes i worry.
I think now many people complain about them. Also i dont know what else you could do more then what you already did.
As for me to be honest next time i will renew my subscription for my iHome, i will just buy a new one with Yetta from FreesunTV. I bought 2 times different IPTV with her and i am more then happy with the service and if ever you need help or inforrmation you can talk with her very fast via skype or email.
Sorry i wish i could help you more!

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby jtvmania » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:51 am

Vince3 wrote:Hello Guys, It's my first post on this forum.

I'm having a big problem with my iHome IP900 that I bought from Lee at Shenzhen Sunvysat LTD's store
(I bought it in december 2012 and it's the first time I have so much trouble with it).

Since the 5th of July, it can't connect to the server anymore, the blue LED on the front panel of the iHome doesn't turn on neither.
After runing the diagnostic software countless of time, I still have the same errors
(Upgrade URL Failed (1006), Home page Failed (1006).

Does anyone else here have the same problem, especially in europe?

I've read a lot about this topic on this forum and tried many things (the famous 246838, Formated the SD card, Changed the SD Card, Changed the secondary DNS for 8.8.8.8 or 114.114.114.114, Reseted the iHome and the router, I tried it in an other place to be sure that my connection and router were not the problems).

Of course, I contacted my seller every week since the problem started but Mr Lee doesn't answer, like sensui123 said previously
"am I at the mercy of my seller that holds the subscription?".

Is there anything else I can try to make it work again? Should I contact another seller?

Any help would be highly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

P.S: Sorry for my poor english


Have you tried 246837 ? or reset on the management server side which you can ask seller to do it for you.

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby Vince3 » Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:06 am

jtvmania wrote:
Vince3 wrote:Hello Guys, It's my first post on this forum.

I'm having a big problem with my iHome IP900 that I bought from Lee at Shenzhen Sunvysat LTD's store
(I bought it in december 2012 and it's the first time I have so much trouble with it).

Since the 5th of July, it can't connect to the server anymore, the blue LED on the front panel of the iHome doesn't turn on neither.
After runing the diagnostic software countless of time, I still have the same errors
(Upgrade URL Failed (1006), Home page Failed (1006).

Does anyone else here have the same problem, especially in europe?

I've read a lot about this topic on this forum and tried many things (the famous 246838, Formated the SD card, Changed the SD Card, Changed the secondary DNS for 8.8.8.8 or 114.114.114.114, Reseted the iHome and the router, I tried it in an other place to be sure that my connection and router were not the problems).

Of course, I contacted my seller every week since the problem started but Mr Lee doesn't answer, like sensui123 said previously
"am I at the mercy of my seller that holds the subscription?".

Is there anything else I can try to make it work again? Should I contact another seller?

Any help would be highly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

P.S: Sorry for my poor english


Have you tried 246837 ? or reset on the management server side which you can ask seller to do it for you.


Thank you for your quick answer, I never heard of the 246837 code, I'll give it a try.
For reseting the management server, the problem is that my seller doesn't answer anymore :cry:

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Re: Comparing Options for Watching Japanese TV from Overseas

Postby Vince3 » Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:18 am

pato wrote:I dont have any problems yet with my iHome IP900 that i purchase from Lee at Shenzhen Sunvysat LTD's store but sometimes i worry.
I think now many people complain about them. Also i dont know what else you could do more then what you already did.
As for me to be honest next time i will renew my subscription for my iHome, i will just buy a new one with Yetta from FreesunTV. I bought 2 times different IPTV with her and i am more then happy with the service and if ever you need help or inforrmation you can talk with her very fast via skype or email.
Sorry i wish i could help you more!


Thanks for your reply, if I can make it work again I will definitely not renew my subscrition with them.
I'll follow your advice and buy from FreesunTV.


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