I don't get it... How come most J-dramas have HORRIBLE PQ?

[xk]

Almost all of 720p HD compressed J-dramas I've watched have soft images and get worse to the point it gets blurry. You can't even see strands of hairs except for a very few of the scenes it's extremely inconsistent. Also there's no "pop" to the image. the blacks are weak and the images look flat. If you gonna make images shitty and blurry why bother watching in high def? it doesn't make any sense....

In contrast, I wouldn't say all, but majority of K-dramas in 720p compressed videos are extremely crystal clear and sharp. Images are punchy as f.u.c.k.. it's got deep blacks and strong contrast making the images 3-dimensional.. it's so punchy that it's like looking out the window... even better than in real life.


So why is it so different from Japanese drama and Korean drama in picture qualities????

I have decided to stop watching Japanese dramas cause the pictures look like ****.... I almost threw up. HA HA

[Issy]

maybe you are a k-drama fan and just wanted an excuse not to watch jdramas.

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[vaah]

couldn't agree more. If you really like jdrama itself why should you bother with the bad picture quality?

[ssih]

I have decided to stop watching Japanese dramas cause the pictures look like ****.... I almost threw up.

Maybe you should see a doctor.

[xk]

Ha ha guys, I don't care for K-dramas other than PQ. I'm not crazy about them. Only a few of them are worth watching story-wise... but what's really nice is that the pictures are amazingly good. I just can't stand soft and blurry pictures that a lot of japanese dramas have. Also the colors are pretty dull. The things i like about J-dramas are that they don't get boring as the stories move on quickly and only goes upto 10 or 12 episodes which is a good thing.

[groink]

Troll on the J-drama forum. Virtually all of his posts are K-drama related. The rips here can always improve. But, to stop watching an entire genre, and posting here the way he did, doesn't draw any sympathy from us, nor will it solve the problem anytime soon.

--- groink

[xk]

Troll on the J-drama forum. Virtually all of his posts are K-drama related. The rips here can always improve. But, to stop watching an entire genre, and posting here the way he did, doesn't draw any sympathy from us, nor will it solve the problem anytime soon.

--- groink

I'm not a troll... you troll (j/k).. Go check out this link: http://www.d-addicts.com/forum/viewtopic_73241_120.htm I'm a contributor and show interest in J-dramas. I'm a HUGE fan of J-pop. You are totally mistaken if you think I'm a K-drama fan.. lol.

btw, you're pretty old, age of 41. Are u Japanese?

[groink]

Troll on the J-drama forum. Virtually all of his posts are K-drama related. The rips here can always improve. But, to stop watching an entire genre, and posting here the way he did, doesn't draw any sympathy from us, nor will it solve the problem anytime soon.

--- groink

I'm not a troll... you troll (j/k).. Go check out this link: http://www.d-addicts.com/forum/viewtopic_73241_120.htm I'm a contributor and show interest in J-dramas. I'm a HUGE fan of J-pop. You are totally mistaken if you think I'm a K-drama fan.. lol.

btw, you're pretty old, age of 41. Are u Japanese?

C'mon dude... I read your post record. You never once posted in the Japanese drama forum until today. And that one post you made in that link above was made today - AFTER my earlier post.

--- groink

[Gir]

His contribution was that a Jdrama sucked ass.

I say we check the young Korean xk's IP against watermelonghost's.

Or maybe they are just good buddies.

[Peggy]

Strictly for my personal information please....

since when is there an age limitiation to be an Asian film/Drama afficionado?

Whats AGE GOT TO DO WITH IT ???? or Nationality or race.

Very disturbing.

Peggy

[xk]

Sorry if you guys found it disturbing. I was kind of kidding about the age part. And I don't care what nationality you are. I was just curious if he's a Japanese. I love Japanese people, as always.

I watched quite a few Japanese dramas in the past. For the last 2~ 3 years it's been hard to find ones that have really good PQ. I think the dramas like "Hataraki Man" and "Hatachi no Koibito" were pretty good. They had sharpness and blacks enough to impress me. But most others have been crappy. I'm wondering if the guys are using the wrong codec or compression on these dramas causing the image to look unspectacular?.. or maybe the original copy just isn't good to start with.. i don't know. I'm also suspecting these Japanese boys are using cheap low grade HD camera for recording the shows. Maybe they just don't know how to use lighting.. or just don't care for it? That drama Hataraki Man was well done. I would say it competes with many of the K-dramas in 720p. You guys gotta check out some of the K-dramas in 720p. they're incredibly good. They were so good I wet my pants... holly crap.


Anyways, please do let me know if you happen to come across ones that have some fine PQ. i will then come and download them.

As for the Japanese music shows in HD like in Music Station look very good. Not only because I watched them in 1080i but also the lighting is very well done. that's why the pictures looked damn good.. I have close to 1TB of those Japanese HD music videos so you can tell I'm a J-pop HD junkie...


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[ssih]

C'mon dude... I read your post record. You never once posted in the Japanese drama forum until today. And that one post you made in that link above was made today - AFTER my earlier post.

BUSTED!!

[pyxee]

So you if you have seen so many J-Dramas that are so horrible, would you mind giving us an example? Maybe you are just unlucky and getting them from the wrong place? Most likely your it is as Groink says and you are a troll, though.

[xk]

C'mon dude... I read your post record. You never once posted in the Japanese drama forum until today. And that one post you made in that link above was made today - AFTER my earlier post.

BUSTED!!

well I didn't post it in J-drama section much but I lurked in this section quite a lot in the past.

[groink]

Okay, let's go back to the matter at-hand. If you want credibility on your issue, you must give people SOME information:

1. Are the Japanese dramas RAWs with soft subtitles? Or, are they hardsubs?

2. Name some examples of Japanese dramas you consider to be of bad quality.

3. How are you watching your dramas? On a TV set (specify TV type and size, such as LCD/plasma, or traditional tube-type TV) or a computer screen? Are you re-ripping to a DVD-VIDEO format and playing them on a DVD player? Are you using a video box such as Popcorn Hour or Western Digital?

4. If you're watching the dramas on a TV, how far are you from the TV set?

5. If you're watching the dramas on a computer, what video player(s) are you using? What codec package did you install?

--- groink

[Issy]

I love Japanese people, as always.

I wonder why its so hard to believe you on this?

maybe because

I'm also suspecting these Japanese boys are using cheap low grade HD camera for recording the shows

is it only me or someone else also feels the hostility?

and it's also so strange when you want to prove yourself other than what you obviously are, you add more insult to your previous ones.
btw, do you also care about content and message about those perfect PQ Kdrama or just watching their sharpness and balckness?

and to save Embarrassment, may i suggest using some adult Incontinence underwears for your future kdrama viewing?

[xk]

Okay, let's go back to the matter at-hand. If you want credibility on your issue, you must give people SOME information:

1. Are the Japanese dramas RAWs with soft subtitles? Or, are they hardsubs?

No subs, I rarely watch any dramas with subs. The ones I watched are RAW's i believe.

2. Name some examples of Japanese dramas you consider to be of bad quality.

don't take my words for it as I have not seen ALL japanese 720p dramas from this site but for the past few years out of about 50 or so dramas I only found "Hataraki Man" and "Hatachi no Koibito" to be quite good. There are some others like "Hachi-One Diver", "Rose", "Saito-san no Haha", "Seigi no Mikata" seemed pretty close but still fall a little short in terms of consistency in delivering sharp/crisp 3D-like pictures. Pretty much all the rest I've seen were extremely inconsistent and too soft, almost blurry in many scenes.

3. How are you watching your dramas? On a TV set (specify TV type and size, such as LCD/plasma, or traditional tube-type TV) or a computer screen? Are you re-ripping to a DVD-VIDEO format and playing them on a DVD player? Are you using a video box such as Popcorn Hour or Western Digital?

- Panasonic professional grade TH-50PHD7UY and TH-50PH9UK plasma screens, 50" each.
- High grade/ high-end DVI-D cable, direct connection from the video card to the TV's DVI Input.
- Set to run in 1:1 pixel mapping for ultra sharp and well defined images.
- HTPC w/ ATI Radeon X1950XTX 512, dual DVI.
- No ripping. Straight from the video source to the TV.
- I do not use gay standalone DVD player. I use HTPC and tweak it to get best PQ possible. My TV is also calibrated.
- I don't use Popcorn Hour nor Western Digital.

4. If you're watching the dramas on a TV, how far are you from the TV set?

About 9~ 12 feet depending on the quality of the video. My TV is 50".

5. If you're watching the dramas on a computer, what video player(s) are you using? What codec package did you install?

Russian-made Elecard MPEG software and some Media Player Classic.



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[xk]

btw, do you also care about content and message about those perfect PQ Kdrama or just watching their sharpness and balckness?

Not much.

I understand about 15% Japanese so I am able to watch it and understand it some. This is why I don't need subs. Subs are distracting, VERY distracting when I'm enjoying the PQ of the drama.

Another reason, I wanna see cute Japanese chicks. That's the another reason.


Reason #1: PQ
Reason #2: PQ
Reason #3: PQ
lol....
Reason #4: Japanese chicks
Reason #5: Plot


Now if it's a drama full of ugly people (no pretty chicks) and boring story I probably wouldn't watch it.

[xk]

I go over to K-drama section to enjoy PQ and see Korean chicks.

[pyxee]

Wow, you know that no matter how great the PQ gets it won't enable you to see through the "cute Japanese girl's" clothes right? I maybe you ought to look elsewhere for that "pants wetting quality", because I don't think we have what you are looking for here.

[xk]

Wow, you know that no matter how great the PQ gets it won't enable you to see through the "cute Japanese girl's" clothes right? I maybe you ought to look elsewhere for that "pants wetting quality", because I don't think we have what you are looking for here.

I'm not looking for J-porn. Besides, prettier girls are more seen in J-dramas and K-dramas.

[xk]

Maybe you guys don't have taste in PQ. Maybe you guys don't know what's considered to be real good and what's not. Go download 720p version of K-drama "Bad Love", "Woman in the Sun", "War of Money: Bonus Episodes", "My Sweet Seoul", or the 2.2GB version of Iljimae, Return of the Iljimae, or Worlds Within. These are just a few to name. We are talking some dead serious PQ here lol.

[groink]

http://www.d-addicts.com/forum/viewtopic_75734_0.htm

You should be contributing to the topic via the link above. In short, it appears that there are two possibilities that are causing the picture quality:

1. There is a fight between the people who are actually capturing these dramas, and then uploading them to Share and other sites. In short, the result of this fight might improve the RAWs D-Addicts eventually receive. But on the flip side, the capturers in South Korea may have already decided on a certain technique that Japan has yet to grasp. So it would be interesting to see if the Koreans have advice for the people in Japan.

2. Some of the uploads on D-Addicts are indeed re-rips. It appears that it is easier to download the much larger captures, re-rip them to SD, and then upload the re-rips to D-Addicts.

This is why it is vital that you mention the dramas you have issues with.

--- groink

[SassyBum]

Alright... by the equipment he listed, I'm gonna guess he's IamAnoobieCheez over at avsforum. Cheezy, while I appropriate your postings over at avsforum, as I am interested in purchasing a Panasonic commercial plasma, your tone in this tread is very hostile and trolling. You need to grow up and tone down your writing style.

The people here are enjoying the dramas for the story and not the picture quality. This is not a site for tech demos. There was a big thread before of people watching dramas via streaming websites, so a lot people are willing to watch low quality videos.

While I agree a bit, as the K-dramas I've watched has a lot more color *pop* than most of the jdramas, does that make them better? I watch dramas for the story, and kdramas seems to drag it on for more than 12 eps. The only jdrama, I've seen lately with a crazy, vibrant amount of colors is Atashinchi no Danshi.

On the technical side, 720p jdramas are compressed using Xvid/DivX6, while I think 720p kdramas are using the more advanced h264 codec, so that may affect picture quality. It's ultimately up to the capper as groink said. If you need that much picture quality, then you should be grabbing the unedited .ts transport stream files.

[aNToK]

He'd hate my latest Kdrama ups. What I wouldn't give to have a nice, clean vid to tweak instead of reconstruct.....

[xk]

Alright... by the equipment he listed, I'm gonna guess he's IamAnoobieCheez over at avsforum. Cheezy, while I appropriate your postings over at avsforum, as I am interested in purchasing a Panasonic commercial plasma, your tone in this tread is very hostile and trolling. You need to grow up and tone down your writing style.

The people here are enjoying the dramas for the story and not the picture quality. This is not a site for tech demos. There was a big thread before of people watching dramas via streaming websites, so a lot people are willing to watch low quality videos.

While I agree a bit, as the K-dramas I've watched has a lot more color *pop* than most of the jdramas, does that make them better? I watch dramas for the story, and kdramas seems to drag it on for more than 12 eps. The only jdrama, I've seen lately with a crazy, vibrant amount of colors is Atashinchi no Danshi.

That's not enough evidence to find out if that guy is really me. I doubt he is the only one with that spec... lolz

This is my writing style. you want to talk to me, deal with it. If you don't like it then go check out other thread that interests you lol.

Based on what you said in your post what you care about is the story so maybe you don't fit in this thread. cause this thread is more about PQ in HD dramas.. There are plenty of SD rips you can go download and watch.

"Atashinchi no Danshi" in 1080i at j-drama section looked pretty good in EP1. The color were well saturated and vibrant, but I wouldn't say crazy vibrant... But it went downhill quickly as I watched the rest of the episodes.. Only the very few scenes came sharp and defined but the most of the scenes came too soft and blurry. I say "nay"...

[xk]

http://www.d-addicts.com/forum/viewtopic_75734_0.htm

You should be contributing to the topic via the link above. In short, it appears that there are two possibilities that are causing the picture quality:

1. There is a fight between the people who are actually capturing these dramas, and then uploading them to Share and other sites. In short, the result of this fight might improve the RAWs D-Addicts eventually receive. But on the flip side, the capturers in South Korea may have already decided on a certain technique that Japan has yet to grasp. So it would be interesting to see if the Koreans have advice for the people in Japan.

2. Some of the uploads on D-Addicts are indeed re-rips. It appears that it is easier to download the much larger captures, re-rip them to SD, and then upload the re-rips to D-Addicts.

This is why it is vital that you mention the dramas you have issues with.

--- groink

thanks for the info and the link, groink. I'm contributing there now..

[totemokakkoii]

geez...what was this thread all about????
I thought the quality was already very good?
I was so impressed when i started d/ling from d-addicts..
last time i used to enjoy my jdramas and other dramas on poor quality streaming sites.
i think what's impt is the Quality of the Story, not the quality of the Resolution.

[theuncontactable]

If you only watch dramas for the picture quality and neither story nor plot nor characterisation, then there's a PQ that's better than 1080i.
A blank screen has really high definition.

[cyberdorama]

@totemokakkoi
So do I. I won't be bothered by the video quality.
i'd love to watch old doramas even the videos are not in high quality. they're usually in low quality, aren't they? I also often watch dorama in streaming sites.
but I still enjoy watching doramas. For me (as a dorama fans), the video quality doesn't bother me as long the dorama is worth to watch. different person different opinion though:D

once again, Korean dramas usually have boring cinematographies. They are always repeated.; If not boring, the cinematographies usually don't match with the storyline and emotion (too over). However, I'm not bothered. Anyway, Japanese doramas usually have cinematographies which match with the storyline and it's not boring:D.

[garnet07]

about the blank screen having really HD!! Ahh, I placed xk on ignore list a long time ago ... when he/she first posted in d-addicts about some stupid complaint.

Also you guys really shouldn't compare Jdoramas and Kdramas because they are too different. Cinematography is good in both dramas as long as you appreciate the culture first. Hmm, so far I've been showing one of my cousin Korean dramas only and want her to watch Jdramas too, but I had to mention to her that the culture is different so there's some getting used to. But once you understand each country's sense of humor / wit, you'll enjoy them.

[fleng]

what is PQ?

Why is Thread Starter a retard?

So many questions...

[xk]

@totemokakkoi
once again, Korean dramas usually have boring cinematographies. They are always repeated.; If not boring, the cinematographies usually don't match with the storyline and emotion (too over). However, I'm not bothered. Anyway, Japanese doramas usually have cinematographies which match with the storyline and it's not boring:D.

We were talking about J-drama Vs. K-drama in terms of PQ, not stories.

I find J-dramas stories don't attract me. Their acting is also kinda poor, not as good as Korean actors/actress.

But I do like the fact that the J-dramas are fast paced, and only goes up to 10 or 12 episodes.

What I hate about the K-dramas is that they drag too damn long. It's usually 16~ 28 episodes for mini dramas.. I've been watching "Shining Inheritance" recently and they just extended it to 28 freakin episodes which is absurd..... this should've been cut down to 12 episodes. It's getting boring now.

what is PQ?

Why is Thread Starter a retard?

So many questions...

PQ stands for "Picture Quality".

who said i'm retard? I didn't see it in my thread.... can you point it to me?

Questions can be answered if you ask, HA HA HA.

[garcon]

yeah.. i agree korean dramas have good PQ..but that's the only thing i like about kdramas...the directing is'nt that impressive, as well as the cliche storyliines..
i want the same PQ (like the korean dramas) on jdoramas.

[japanese emo]

i think it's the PQ factor that the TS prefers in a drama, so let's leave him to that...if he says that he doesn't want to watch jdramas anymore because of that then sure go ahead no ones stopping you...watch kdramas all you want

[Issy]

It's uselss trying to argue with him/her
let's just end the discussion here.
s/he likes the PQ of Korean drama and very obviously enjoys them more than Jdrama. fair enough. everyone is entitled to their opinion and not everyone is the same.

i think the whole thread is kind of stupid to begin with and i think the whole idea was about showing his/her dislike to jdrama (no matter how much he insists otherwise) you can feel this vibe from every single post written.

there is no point in furthur argument because it won't get anywhere. Jdrama fans will still love their dramas no matter what quality is and Kdrama fans as we know, are already happy with their choice, so peace for everyone. unless otherwise is intended.

[londonsoul]

STOP BITCHING!!
1. Can you see the the picture?
2. Can you read the subs?
Then life is great.
PLEASE do not forget "IT IS FREE"
Call me cynical
But perhaps we have some "entrepreneurs" looking for DVD quality Raws !!!
BIG THANKS to the Uploaders.
Super love to all you fan sub groups

[cyberdorama]

I agree that every one could have different opinions.. differences are beautiful:D
I don't really like K-Drama since they are too broing.. the actors' and actresses' acting make K-Drama like soap operas a lot . This is only my opinion though.

"Hataraki Man" and "Hatachi no Koibito" to be quite good. There are some others like "Hachi-One Diver", "Rose", "Saito-san no Haha", "Seigi no Mikata" seemed pretty close but still fall a little short in terms of consistency in delivering sharp/crisp 3D-like pictures. Pretty much all the rest I've seen were extremely inconsistent and too soft, almost blurry in many scenes.

XK. The thing is that I doubt that you have ever had the dorama you mentioned above.
I never know Saito-san No Haha. Instead of it, why not Saito-san No Tomodachi? Saito-san No Musume? Edison no Okaasan? Read your post carefully and you'll know more what I mean. That's not only the thing you've typed incorrectly, is that?

[xk]

I agree that every one could have different opinions.. differences are beautiful:D
I don't really like K-Drama since they are too broing.. the actors' and actresses' acting make K-Drama like soap operas a lot . This is only my opinion though.

It's called "boring", not broing... is that even a word? lol? broing.... ha ha

anyways, to me, most Japanese dramas are boring. I also find Japanese actors and actresses acting sub-par. When it comes to acting performance Koreans are better. I have made an official statement that I will no longer watch J-dramas cause they are boring and also have poor PQ. There is no reason for me to watch them.

XK. The thing is that I doubt that you have ever had the dorama you mentioned above.
I never know Saito-san No Haha. Instead of it, why not Saito-san No Tomodachi? Saito-san No Musume? Edison no Okaasan? Read your post carefully and you'll know more what I mean. That's not only the thing you've typed incorrectly, is that?

It's this --> http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Saito-san Saito-san Some people call it "Saito-san no Haha", some call it differently. What matters is that they are referring to the same drama. Got it?

Are you telling me I don't know what I watched? or don't even know the titles of each drama? What do you mean I have never "had"??? you are not making any sense. Are you a foreigner? You sound like some asian. Your grammar and spelling are all off lol.



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[cyberdorama]

XK. The thing is that I doubt that you have ever had the dorama you mentioned above.
I never know Saito-san No Haha. Instead of it, why not Saito-san No Tomodachi? Saito-san No Musume? Edison no Okaasan? Read your post carefully and you'll know more what I mean. That's not only the thing you've typed incorrectly, is that?

It's this --> http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Saito-san Saito-san Some people call it "Saito-san no Haha", some call it differently. What matters is that they are referring to the same drama. Got it?

Are you telling me I don't know what I watched? or don't even know the titles of each drama? What do you mean I have never "had"??? you are not making any sense. Are you a foreigner? You sound like some asian. Your grammar and spelling are all off lol.
.[/quote]
Yes, I'm Asian and i'm proud being asian. It doesn't matter, does it?
I meant that you have never had any dorama you mentioned above. I should've listened not to reply your comments.

[calpisuu]

Are you a foreigner? You sound like some asian. Your grammar and spelling are all off lol.

'Sound like some asian...' WTH! That was incredibly rude!:scratch:

[anyways, to me, most Japanese dramas are boring. I also find Japanese actors and actresses acting sub-par. When it comes to acting performance Koreans are better. I have made an official statement that I will no longer watch J-dramas cause they are boring and also have poor PQ. There is no reason for me to watch them.

THEN DON'T WATCH THEM. Sigh.
No one cares if you continue watching jdramas or not. You like the acting and the PQ in kdramas more, fine, then go and watch them and just stop writing useless things.

[Issy]

Are you a foreigner? You sound like some asian. Your grammar and spelling are all off lol.

What a retard question. since when we had "foreigner" and non-foreigner issues? does d-addicts belong to one particular nationals and i did not know? this site belongs to everyone from every where.

from all what i read, you clearly have some race issues. i remember the time when you asked groink is he is japanese or not and how old he is?
maybe it's time for mods to interfere.

and if i remember right, you started the show thread because of bad PQ and not being boring or not.

[AkumaX]

*sigh*