[Discussion] Orthrus no Inu (Takizawa Hideaki, Nishikido Ry)
I kinda wonder...
I liked the series from the beginning because I found Ryuzaki interesting/mysterious. There was just something about him that made him hard to figure out. They tried to make him evil, but somehow, I felt there's something more behind it. Maybe cuz he's handsome so I didn't want to believe he's bad ^^;
e u p h o r i s t i c wrote: Did you guys notice the lights behind Ryo and Takizawa when they were talking on the roof? >8DDD Behind Ryo was blue, and behind Takizawa was red! XDDD I dunno. Red = devil, blue = angel? Random... >w<;
Who else dropped their jaws when Ryo killed Kumakiri? AND OMG TAKIZAWA LOST HIS COOL WITH MASATO!! XDDD Takizawa x Asami, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? xD
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Yeah Ryuzaki is hiding something,...it has to do with that town. If Aoi and Ryuzaki are brothers then Aoi must be adopted....
No I dont want Ryuzaki to die.. I mean he is so lonely, the poor guy needs a hug. I woundnt mind though, he acted cold but he is actually not, just a farcade to defend himself. He must have been hurt by others in the past.
No I dont want Ryuzaki to die.. I mean he is so lonely, the poor guy needs a hug. I woundnt mind though, he acted cold but he is actually not, just a farcade to defend himself. He must have been hurt by others in the past.
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^ yea, this ep was more emotional than usual.
Btw, I've uploaded my record on my blog
http://nomanymore.blogspot.com/2009/07/ ... o-inu.html
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That's one of the things I love about the drama. Tackey's expression. He's so expressionless and hard to read that he intrigues the viewer. His character is so complicated, it makes you want to continue watching and try to understand him better.
Seems both ryuzaki and aoi have the same "protective charm". Either it's common to buy or made by the mom.
Seems both ryuzaki and aoi have the same "protective charm". Either it's common to buy or made by the mom.
I am just loving Ryuzaki/Takky in ths drama. he is so perfect for this role. at times when you think he is pure evil, he does something that makes you think he is an angel on this earth and at time when you think he is all there to help and pure, he reacts in a way that makes you doubt him. and still no expression on his face and still leaves in confusion about his personality.
@seirin
I was just going to cap your last pic too. i thought it was very meaningful. you can see it in so many ways.
@seirin
I was just going to cap your last pic too. i thought it was very meaningful. you can see it in so many ways.
The latest news thanks to takki.us that Ryo is suspected to be infected with H1N1 flu, so some of his scene in ep 7 havent been filmed yet, so there will be some changes to ep 7. I hope the whole filming crew and Takki is ok. I heard that Pi is also sick as well. The whole NEWS was on 24hr lately so they might be at risk as well. JE boys need to take care of themselves because they are all at risk.
OH, i hope they get better soon. i am watching both if these dramas right now and i don't think it can get furthur without these two.
i always wondered why japanese do not make their dramas in advancve before airing it. at the end of the day, anything can happen in the process. so does it mean that project has to stop?
i don't get their way of thinking in doing so but i read that it is to do with rating. in case rating was really low, they cut their loses and end the drama earlier than they planned originally.
wishing both a fast recovery.
i always wondered why japanese do not make their dramas in advancve before airing it. at the end of the day, anything can happen in the process. so does it mean that project has to stop?
i don't get their way of thinking in doing so but i read that it is to do with rating. in case rating was really low, they cut their loses and end the drama earlier than they planned originally.
wishing both a fast recovery.
I was watching ep6 again last night (this time with subs) and i was wondering about the same thing. with each ep i am liking Ryuzaki more and more. he is such sad and lonely person that needs to be loved so much.seirin wrote:That was an interesting episode. I really curious what happened in the past now. I'm wondering if they inherited powers from their mom. And I'm really curious how deep is ryuzaki's thoughts. I can't imagine what he's been through in his childhood. Poor guy.
Really enjoyed episode 6, there was some funky music and tense scenes in there it all fit perfectly. Ryuzaki just gets cooler every episode, the dark hair definitely suits him, gives him his mysterious look I actually cried a little bit in this episode... not sure if it was that emotional... or if I am just emotional yeah that's when I cried a bit ^^;
Anyway yea, was a good one, look forwards to the next and I hope Ryo and Yamapi get better soon :o I don't get the whole drama filming thing either O.o... I guess it IS so they can just drop it if the ratings are low.
I am also curious as to why the ratings are low on this... usually it doesn't matter what the drama is about if it has JE boys in it, it does well... and this has 3 so... hrmmm O.O I love it, can't wait to see it through =D
I am also curious as to why the ratings are low on this... usually it doesn't matter what the drama is about if it has JE boys in it, it does well... and this has 3 so... hrmmm O.O I love it, can't wait to see it through =D
oh sorry hahah I read it as opedius. You're correct. It's Oedipus.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oedipus
The painting on the wall of Ryuzaki's prison room is called "Oedipus and the Sphinx"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oedipus
The painting on the wall of Ryuzaki's prison room is called "Oedipus and the Sphinx"
Well... then I hope the script will have nothing to do with that legend.
But I can't ignore that, when Hasebe said 'If you need something, say it and grab that thing with your own hands', Ryuzaki grabbed HER hand... And more, when he was sleeping and dreaming about his mother leaving him... he grabbed again Hasebe's hand...
So... what's the link? Only that she was there 'at the right time' when he needed someone??
But I can't ignore that, when Hasebe said 'If you need something, say it and grab that thing with your own hands', Ryuzaki grabbed HER hand... And more, when he was sleeping and dreaming about his mother leaving him... he grabbed again Hasebe's hand...
So... what's the link? Only that she was there 'at the right time' when he needed someone??
Well, Ryuzaki has been constantly testing Hasebe. She seems to have passed his tests and she intrigues him. She seems to be the only one who hasn't used him in any selfish ways.
I like the line near the end where he says "The wind is blowing. A storm is approaching". Sounds like trouble is heading his way hard and fast.
I like the line near the end where he says "The wind is blowing. A storm is approaching". Sounds like trouble is heading his way hard and fast.
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I really like this Takki x Asami thing. Hehehe. XDDD
Though I still kinda like Ryo x Asami more... Takki x Asami is now appealing to me.
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UGH. HOW CAN THEY NOT KILL SAWAMURA!? I loved that guy in Zettai Kareshi, but here he's just plain evil. They should've killed him. And Shibata... DDD: I feel for him ~ XDD
Looks like Takki is planning something big, ne? <3
Though I still kinda like Ryo x Asami more... Takki x Asami is now appealing to me.
8D
UGH. HOW CAN THEY NOT KILL SAWAMURA!? I loved that guy in Zettai Kareshi, but here he's just plain evil. They should've killed him. And Shibata... DDD: I feel for him ~ XDD
Looks like Takki is planning something big, ne? <3
strangely, i am finiding myself more and more liking Ryuzaki x Hasebe pairing when i even did not tought that it will go that way or not liked the pairing myself. I want their relation to deepen more and more now.
Takky is great in showing Ryuzaki's indiffernt attitude to everything around him even in matter of life and death(have to admit that i get puzzled by his expressionless face sometimes. I am really liking his dark/cool/evil¬ evil personality. he is my only reason of watching this drama.
but i have to say
heard the good news about Ryo getting better. but don't know when he is coming back. btw, will there be an ep7 tonight or not? just wondering
Takky is great in showing Ryuzaki's indiffernt attitude to everything around him even in matter of life and death(have to admit that i get puzzled by his expressionless face sometimes. I am really liking his dark/cool/evil¬ evil personality. he is my only reason of watching this drama.
but i have to say
no apparently tonight they are have some kind of live special with Takki & Asami talking about their roles and filming the dorama and maybe Ryo will show up briefly if he feels well enough (and then there will a regular ep next week I guess).Issy wrote:
heard the good news about Ryo getting better. but don't know when he is coming back. btw, will there be an ep7 tonight or not? just wondering
I don't think Ryuzaki is afraid of death. He seems to see through peoples' personality too. He knew the guy wouldn't shoot. However he knew Hasebe would probably shoot. However, he has his principles. He won't be used by anyone. Not even if it meant being killed.Issy wrote: Takky is great in showing Ryuzaki's indiffernt attitude to everything around him even in matter of life and death(have to admit that i get puzzled by his expressionless face sometimes. I am really liking his dark/cool/evil¬ evil personality.
Yes, that what i meant. he is not afraid of death and even sometimes seeks it. the fact that he kept quiet when he was in prison, ready to his death penalty, proves it. he is really a tortured soul. and he does seems to be able to read people's mind/intentions most of times. something that Aoi does not have.seirin wrote:I don't think Ryuzaki is afraid of death. He seems to see through peoples' personality too. He knew the guy wouldn't shoot. However he knew Hasebe would probably shoot. However, he has his principles. He won't be used by anyone. Not even if it meant being killed.Issy wrote: Takky is great in showing Ryuzaki's indiffernt attitude to everything around him even in matter of life and death(have to admit that i get puzzled by his expressionless face sometimes. I am really liking his dark/cool/evil¬ evil personality.
Rangadev wrote:Well, I've been thinking about it :Issy wrote:
Tackey is playing really, really well in the drama, he's really charismatic. I hope Ryo and Pi cure fast. (can't wait for the following episodes....)
With their illness, next episodes will get high rating ! ^^
I think the whole theme of the series is balance. There must be good and evil, day and night, black and white, ying and yang for harmony to exist. The personalities of Aoi and Ryuzaki is kind of a balance in itself with Aoi being a good guy with devil hands and Ryuzaki being a bad guy with healing hands. I think the only one who understands this balance in the whole series is Ryuzaki. Note the chaos that is caused by each power on its own. I think Ryuzaki is trying to educate Aoi as well as Hasebe that there needs to be balance. You can't save everyone nor can you kill everyone. It'll cause instability which leads to chaos.
OH NO. I am wondering is it because Low rating or Ryo's health? but i think is more to do with low rating. atleast we get two 75 mins eps and i am so happy for it. will miss OnI for sureseirin wrote:Seems the drama is cut down to 9 episodes. But last 2 is extended to 75 minutes. I guess it's not too bad. At least it won't cut into next seasons' air time.
Ryo seems to have recovered and started filming again.
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well it's not really 75mins, withh all the commercials and such. I think it's just because of the schedule. The series had been planned 10 eps from the beginning. So in some way it's because of ryo's condition, ep 7 couldn't finish in time, they have to make 4 eps into 3. hence fans do not worry, nothing is being cut/reduced ^-^,,
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I think it will go with Dokkun's healt... because if you melt the story into 75 minutes long episodes you'll get almost as much screentime as scheduled for 10 episodes with usual lenght... and you'll end the drama in the scheduled dayIssy wrote:OH NO. I am wondering is it because Low rating or Ryo's health? but i think is more to do with low rating. atleast we get two 75 mins eps and i am so happy for it. will miss OnI for sure
there is english sub of the talk section of the SP at Nomanymore's's site
here it is http://nomanymore.blogspot.com/2009/07/ ... o-inu.html
here it is http://nomanymore.blogspot.com/2009/07/ ... o-inu.html
Wow!! thanx thienly for the info and thanx nomanymore for the video!!its very much appreciated!thienly wrote:there is english sub of the talk section of the SP at Nomanymore's's site
here it is http://nomanymore.blogspot.com/2009/07/ ... o-inu.html
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What does everyone think about Ryuzaki's name? I think they've said a few times now that Ryuzaki Shinji isn't really his name, if I'm remembering things correctly.
It seems that his parents were separated at some point, right? That the dad abandoned him... so it's not like his name would be Aoi, that he and Ryosuke would be full brothers... I guess. In the flashback scenes for both Ryuzaki and Ryosuke the mom is the same, but Ryosuke's dad also said that he'd been to that Ryukoku town at some point. I wonder what kind of implications that has.
I've been lurking through this thread a while, but sorry if this has been discussed already >.< I think I've just reiterated everything that everyone already knows, blegh.
It seems that his parents were separated at some point, right? That the dad abandoned him... so it's not like his name would be Aoi, that he and Ryosuke would be full brothers... I guess. In the flashback scenes for both Ryuzaki and Ryosuke the mom is the same, but Ryosuke's dad also said that he'd been to that Ryukoku town at some point. I wonder what kind of implications that has.
I've been lurking through this thread a while, but sorry if this has been discussed already >.< I think I've just reiterated everything that everyone already knows, blegh.
Thanks for PV, i saw it on youtub and somehow i thought of kiseki song of him. it kind of has same feelings to it.
as for Hikari Hitotsu, i am really liking those OnI scenes and hints all over the PV. loving the song and its PV so much.
i watched ep7 on keyhole with worst quality ever , but am i right to think
as for Hikari Hitotsu, i am really liking those OnI scenes and hints all over the PV. loving the song and its PV so much.
i watched ep7 on keyhole with worst quality ever , but am i right to think
I just watched episode 7 thanks to our awesome subber, all I can say is, everything is slowly coming out and though things are beginning to surface, alot of things still remains a mystery which is what I like about this drama.
And there's still not much development between Hasebe and Ryuzaki though they are starting to see things eye to eye due to the time they spend with one another. I wish they would add more scenes between them but looking at the preview it might not be so.
But, all in all, its a good episode, I enjoyed it!!
And there's still not much development between Hasebe and Ryuzaki though they are starting to see things eye to eye due to the time they spend with one another. I wish they would add more scenes between them but looking at the preview it might not be so.
But, all in all, its a good episode, I enjoyed it!!
@seirin
I am totally with you on this. from the start, even though i like Ryuzaki and kind of biased towards him but i really never understood
I am totally with you on this. from the start, even though i like Ryuzaki and kind of biased towards him but i really never understood
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Anyhow, a new revelation from ep8. I missed the first 20 minutes of it But the streaming was pretty good.akamaya wrote:
I have no idea how they're going to finish up everything in next week's episode...It's going to be a rush job and a high probability of a screw up. I haven't seen a jdrama with a rushed ending and still be satisfactorily written. You would think they learn their lessons from past mistakes.
Orthros no inu anime OP song
YES, there are so many unanswered questions and loose ends to this story that definitely can not be wrapped in 75 minutes ep. maybe be can be done in two 75mins ep but not one at all. i think they going to rush the ending for sure and they going to ruin it. pitty. it was just getting very good.
btw,
btw,
I think that forensic science lady is "interested" in Ryuzaki because of his powers. Like Sawamura is interested in Aoi for his power. Those two weirdos go well together. It's no wonder they hang out together. One obsessed with life, one obsessed with death.
I also think Ryuzaki knows Sawamura is using Hasebe and the assistant to get close to him. He won't fall for it.
I also think Ryuzaki knows Sawamura is using Hasebe and the assistant to get close to him. He won't fall for it.
seirin wrote:I think that forensic science lady is "interested" in Ryuzaki because of his powers. Like Sawamura is interested in Aoi for his power. Those two weirdos go well together. It's no wonder they hang out together. One obsessed with life, one obsessed with death.
I also think Ryuzaki knows Sawamura is using Hasebe and the assistant to get close to him. He won't fall for it.
I think Takki's character is one of the best developped one compare to the other characters. He is wise, intelligent, can read people and situations well, calm, has the ability to outwit the Minister and those cruel people...can handle crisis really well.
I mean his condition to get to the hospital is to come to the hospital by car not helicopter, because he knows that if he gets there on time they have to give in to those stupid people, getting there by car they end up only has one hr left so he can come up with the plan of prioritising who is going to be healed first and so one. So in the end no one win not even the greedy minister but himself. I mean 10 years in prison has surely does make him think deeply about life, death and people when he is the victim all the long.
Yeah I have the same question why Sawamura hates Ryu so much? is just because he cant control Ryu like he controls other people or is it because of jeolusy or something else.
One thing he said to Aoi is that Aoi's hand is after all maybe God's hand. His eyes was really sad, seems like he resents his hands. Look at him....with those hand what do he get? abused, kidnapped, abandoned, framed, forced to heal people out of his will....imprisoned and used by people. Whereas Aoi has a family, a at least a happier life than Ryu's
And everything blame it on Ryu when he doesnt do anything. It's so easy to blame people than take the reponsibility themselves. The politics scene b/t prime minister and ministers prove this point very well.
Too many unanswered questions, I hope next week episode tie all the loose ends nicely....I want a happy ending for everyone....dont let my Ryu die please....
I mean his condition to get to the hospital is to come to the hospital by car not helicopter, because he knows that if he gets there on time they have to give in to those stupid people, getting there by car they end up only has one hr left so he can come up with the plan of prioritising who is going to be healed first and so one. So in the end no one win not even the greedy minister but himself. I mean 10 years in prison has surely does make him think deeply about life, death and people when he is the victim all the long.
Yeah I have the same question why Sawamura hates Ryu so much? is just because he cant control Ryu like he controls other people or is it because of jeolusy or something else.
One thing he said to Aoi is that Aoi's hand is after all maybe God's hand. His eyes was really sad, seems like he resents his hands. Look at him....with those hand what do he get? abused, kidnapped, abandoned, framed, forced to heal people out of his will....imprisoned and used by people. Whereas Aoi has a family, a at least a happier life than Ryu's
And everything blame it on Ryu when he doesnt do anything. It's so easy to blame people than take the reponsibility themselves. The politics scene b/t prime minister and ministers prove this point very well.
I think Sawamura doesn't like Ryuzaki cuz he's harder to handle than Aoi. However, it's also because he's more obsessed with death than life. He thinks Aoi is the perfect assassin cuz he kills without a trace.
About Aoi's stupidity. I think he's just too innocent and protected whereas Shinji has experienced more and he's older.
oh, an aside on Tackey. He seems like a friendly guy. I wonder why some people seem so adverse to him. Like a few weeks ago he was saying he and Ryo should go out and eat sometime. Today on osama no brunch, Takki says it's almost end of the series and they still haven't hung out together yet >_< Also Naohito Fujiki doesn't seem very impressed by Tackey either. He doesn't seem to want to get his number or call him out. I wonder why they seem to avoid him.
On utaban, they had a palm reading for orthros no inu LOL Tackey seems to be the most popular person on the show judging from his palm Nakai was comme Unting it's like he was born to be popular ^^; Errm...and he seems to be a very perverted guy from the palm reading
About Aoi's stupidity. I think he's just too innocent and protected whereas Shinji has experienced more and he's older.
On utaban, they had a palm reading for orthros no inu LOL Tackey seems to be the most popular person on the show judging from his palm Nakai was comme Unting it's like he was born to be popular ^^; Errm...and he seems to be a very perverted guy from the palm reading
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