[Discussion] Innocent Love - Horikita Maki (Fall 2008)

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Postby Nomanymore » Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:49 am

Hikaru Utada will be singing the theme song for the drama series "Innocent Love," which stars popular actress Maki Horikita. This will be Utada's first song for a drama in Fuji TV's prized Monday night time slot since "Can You Keep A Secret?" for the 2001 hit "HERO."

This past spring, Utada sang the theme for the popular drama "Last Friends." That show's production staff are also working on "Innocent Love," and they decided to offer her another tie-in. But rather than requesting a new song, they chose the ballad "Eternally," originally recorded for her second album "Distance" in 2001. The producers reportedly felt that the song strongly matched the image of the drama.

Apparently, the song will use a re-edited version of the original vocal recording. It was remixed at a London recording studio to emphasize the vocals more, resulting in a new version titled "Eternally -Drama Mix-."

The song will be released digitally and as a chaku-uta, starting on the drama's premiere date of October 20. Currently, there are no plans for a CD release.


http://www.tokyograph.com/news/id-3853


I hope they'll release a CD or even PV for that better :D


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Postby sleepyzzz » Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:33 pm

according to the official website there seems to be no intention to release a single (at least at this stage)... :-(
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Postby s_leonhart » Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:50 am

hope at least they include that song in the ost.

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Postby Nomanymore » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:33 am

I heard they'll make it available to 'download' on net the same day as the drama starts.. ?

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Postby marienella_m » Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:21 am

official site updated!!

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crying maki..

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Postby s_leonhart » Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:34 pm

now i'm feeling sad too...

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Postby marienella_m » Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:46 pm

pictures from the press conference:

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Postby j_halo7 » Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:13 pm

Wow. Maki looks so mature! I'm liking this mature side of her. (:
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Postby Nomanymore » Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:08 pm

Another clip of the press conference ^^

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 1482945513

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Postby Nomanymore » Fri Oct 03, 2008 9:32 pm

New teaser/CM!
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6yfbf ... shortfilms

I feel sorry for Kanon's brother already :-(

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Postby HPriest » Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:44 pm

New cast details and episode 01 "spoilers":
http://www.pori-chan.com/index.php?topic=166.0
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Postby HPriest » Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:34 pm

Yay, they won at Waratte Iitomo :D
Maki did a good job at the Jan Ken Finale :D
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Postby aishii » Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:55 pm

this drama looks soo good 8)
i really hope it's just as good as Last friends
maki is looking super in those pix btw <33
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Postby Nomanymore » Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:49 pm

Translation of Maki's interview can be found here
http://community.livejournal.com/innocentlove_jp

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Postby Nomanymore » Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:12 pm

Anyone could see these clips on the official site?
http://wwwz.fujitv.co.jp/innocentlove/s ... index.html
I can't make it work :(

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Postby Nomanymore » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:50 am

Character chart updated ^^
http://wwwz.fujitv.co.jp/innocentlove/chart/index.html
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Postby tavon1 » Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:58 pm

Nomanymore wrote:Anyone could see these clips on the official site?
http://wwwz.fujitv.co.jp/innocentlove/s ... index.html
I can't make it work :(
I can see them on mine computer

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Postby Nomanymore » Sat Oct 18, 2008 1:08 pm

Maki & Yuujin on Mecha Mecha Iketeru!
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7404c ... shortfilms

Really cute & funny XD

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Postby Nomanymore » Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:11 pm

2 more clips of the press conference
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v162811954YTjTZBb
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v16281537bsae4RJ7

I will update the community with more links for who can't get access to Veoh :)
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Postby HPriest » Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:15 pm

So.. it aired a while ago.. it had a nice slow paced feeling to it.
There is still a lot of room for character development, but what can you expect from a first episode. The characters all seem to harmonize with each other (in general, I mean). Each of the characters have something deep inside their hearts they can't really tell anyone else. It's intriguing and charming, calm and exciting. The Christmas feeling already puts you in the mood for holiday. ^_^

Without too much spoiling, the keywords of the wonderful opening. Think of those keywords like those from Last Friends. Here they also have a meaning and somewhat describe the characters.

Kanon - Destiny (Horikita Maki)
Junya - Memory (Kitagawa Yuujin)
Kiyoka - Betrayal (Uchida Yuki)
Subaru - Denial (Narimiya Hiroki)
Yoji - Sacrifice (Fukushi Seiji)
Jiro - Disclosure (Toyohara Kosuke)
Mizuki - Jealousy (Kashii Yuu)

[spoiler]So, from the opening and some parts in the episode it's almost clear that Subaru actually is in love with Kitagwa. The keyword "denial" also means that he's denying that he is gay. At least I think that his glances are enough evidence for this.

The ending was nice, but I'm not yet sure how that is connected to the keyword or how it will play out in the next episodes. I didn't see this coming at all, but you started to miss her among the characters throughout the first episode, that's true.[/spoiler]
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Postby Nomanymore » Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:24 pm

The OP :wub: :wub:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 1113&hl=en

I think the timeline in the 1st eps is quiet interesting.. It's in the past& you wonder what happened Before & After (present) ^^
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Postby HPriest » Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:44 am

marienella_m wrote:16.9% 21:00-22:09 CX* [新]イノセント・ラヴ


As expected.. it was only the cast who appealed to the people, not the story.
Now it depends on the story of how much the ratings will drop for the 2nd episode.
For most the story doesn't seem too bad, but not really good either.
Yuujin's acting is a joke for the majority, but ..well.. he isn't an actor.
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Postby marienella_m » Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:51 am

HPriest wrote:
marienella_m wrote:16.9% 21:00-22:09 CX* [新]イノセント・ラヴ


As expected.. it was only the cast who appealed to the people, not the story.
Now it depends on the story of how much the ratings will drop for the 2nd episode.
For most the story doesn't seem too bad, but not really good either.
Yuujin's acting is a joke for the majority, but ..well.. he isn't an actor.


oh really, the story's not that good? yeah the pilot's ratings is pretty low for a Monday night drama, but i hope it will improve.

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Postby HPriest » Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:01 am

It's hard to tell yet. There are too many open questions and some irritating things that have to be cleared throughout the next episodes.

However, it's a typical slow story with some some elements you'd expect from the Innocent Love staff. It won't be liked by everyone and it doesn't help that Yuujin worse of an actor than expected. If all the Yuzu fans continue to watch it, then it might stay above the 10% for the 2nd episode. Some more Maki fans wouldn't hurt the ratings either, because she alone is worth watching it.. :P

I won't decide on this dorama yet.. I hope ep02 gets bit better :-)
And as for Yuujin.. he can only get better from now.
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Postby nix_renji » Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:53 am

I haven't watch it yet but I do like the casting and storyline looks good too. It has that tragic, sad feeling to it :cry:

As for Yuzu's acting, it is only his 2nd dorama i think. People should give him a chance. But I do wonder what FujiTV has in mind casting new actor for a lead role in a primetime slot :scratch:

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Postby evolute8 » Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:24 am

waiting for the subs

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Postby lalaland_09 » Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:27 am

Well, Fuji was taking a gamble when they did the casting. Maki alone cannot yet generate top notch ratings, so I think 16.9 is somewhat passable for the first ep.

Anyway, the pacing of the ep was rather slow, but it did set up quiet nicely for future development. And the storylines seem interesting enough for me to continue watching.

BTW I absolutely adore the OP! Both the song and the imagery are stunning! :wub:

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Postby nix_renji » Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:51 am

lalaland_09 wrote:BTW I absolutely adore the OP! Both the song and the imagery are stunning! :wub:


That's make two of us. I like how in the beginning, the word shatters and turn into snowy thingy. And the soft colors create a really beautiful effect... The OP alone makes me wanna cry :P LOL

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Postby toyotaku » Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:58 am

nix_renji wrote:
lalaland_09 wrote:BTW I absolutely adore the OP! Both the song and the imagery are stunning! :wub:


That's make two of us. I like how in the beginning, the word shatters and turn into snowy thingy. And the soft colors create a really beautiful effect... The OP alone makes me wanna cry :P LOL


I third that opinion. I found myself completely captivated by the OP. I think I actually enjoyed it more than the episode itself. :P (I know better than to gauge a drama by the first ep, tho... I'll continue to watch & hope things do get stronger in the story.)

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Postby atskv9 » Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:09 am

I saw one person's projected ratings for the following eps in 2ch... kind of disappointing how some people think it will fair :-(

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Postby totemokakkoii » Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:30 pm

never place too high hopes on any drama.. u will end up being disappointed when it did not match your high expectation.. it happened for LF, and now IL????

from now on, i shall expect all dramas to suck...

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Postby toma_sis » Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:38 pm

I Think Last Friends is OK....lol


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Postby cam169 » Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:46 pm

toyotaku wrote:
nix_renji wrote:
lalaland_09 wrote:BTW I absolutely adore the OP! Both the song and the imagery are stunning! :wub:


That's make two of us. I like how in the beginning, the word shatters and turn into snowy thingy. And the soft colors create a really beautiful effect... The OP alone makes me wanna cry :P LOL


I third that opinion. I found myself completely captivated by the OP. I think I actually enjoyed it more than the episode itself. :P (I know better than to gauge a drama by the first ep, tho... I'll continue to watch & hope things do get stronger in the story.)


I have to agreed with that. The opening was beautiful. The episode itself was kind of slow, but it let me interested in what's going to happen next.
The casting was good, except for Yujin, geez he is really bad at acting XD.
But as I said, I'm satisfied with the rest. And actually I was kind of impressed by Maki's on screen brother. Wonder what kind of relationship he desires to have with his sister ;)

Still, 16 % viewers rating is really kind of low, let's hope it gets better and the storyline becomes more intriguing as well.
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Postby HPriest » Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:31 pm

The preview of episode 02 taken from the official website. It usually is free of major spoilers (judging from the preview of the first episode), but it still can't avoid to spoil some things..whether they are important or not. Only read it, if you really want to know a bit more about the next episode.

[spoiler]Kanon (Horikita Maki) secretly put a music box that resembles a grand piano in front of Junya's (Kitagawa Yuujin) house as Christmas present and returned home. Junya notices it the next morning and talks to Mizuki (Kashii Yuu) about the music box. Mizuki says that it could be somebody from the children choir and makes fun of him by saying "You are popular, aren't you?"

Kanon uses an alias and registers as an garbage collector in a dispatch company. Her job will be to clean around the train station. One day after work she drops by Junya's house and secretly tries to peek inside. She gets a glimpse of Junya listening to the music box she gave him as present and gets filled with joy. Right at that moment Subaru (Narimiya Hiroki) came along. Kanon quietly moves behind Junya's house in order not to get suspected.

On the other hand Kanon's older brother Youji (Fukushi Seiji) who got admitted to a juvenile prison suddenly turned violent and was put into a protection room. It was the night when Kanon came to meet him when he turned into a rage. At that time the journalist Ikeda (Toyohara Kousuke) visits the juvenile prison and asks to meet Youji. Ikeda chases after the truth behind what Youji caused and already made contact with Kanon. He tells Youji that he wants to help him and starts to talk about the event. During the trial Youji insisted that he was innocence, although he admitted of killing his parents right after he got arrested and Ikeda wants to know the reason for his sudden change. Ikeda is choosing his words carefully while observing Youji's facial expressions. Youji answered that his parents have already been killed when he woke up that night and that he sprinkled kerosene around the house so that Kanon wouldn't have to see her murdered parents.

Kanon endures the tough work by keeping her feelings for Junya inside her heart. Then one day she happens to see Junya around the station. She's hesitating about whether she should greet him or not while she's following him. On that occasion Junya accidentally drops his handkerchief without noticing and Kanon picks it up.

Kanon visits Junya's house in order to give him back his handkerchief. Harue (Miyazaki Yoshiko), who came to clean, leaves the house while talking on her mobile phone. It seems like that she has some urgent business with a father who leaves his child in the care of an orphanage.* Kanon makes sure that Harue is really leaving and gets inside the house through the open door. At that moment Subaru comes out of the room where Kiyoka (Uchida Yuki) is sleeping in. Just then Junya also turns up at the house and can't hide that he's surprised to see Kanon there. Subaru grabs the arm of Kanon who's trying to run away and calls the police...

*That line might not be exactly right..[/spoiler]
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Postby Nomanymore » Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:03 pm

totemokakkoii wrote:never place too high hopes on any drama.. u will end up being disappointed when it did not match your high expectation.. it happened for LF, and now IL????

from now on, i shall expect all dramas to suck...


It's just the 1st eps ^^ &personally I enjoyed it :)

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Postby GoddessCarlie » Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:20 am

I actually really enjoyed this ep and I think this is my favourite drama I've seen sofar this season.
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Postby bakababa » Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:50 am

My feeling after watching this episode is almost exactly the same as when I finished watching Last Friends the first time. There're so much going on but only in pieces (like a puzzle) which kept me interested even more. I can't wait for episode 2 !!! :thumleft: :thumright:

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Postby Zealousy » Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:00 am

Is this any good? Plot seems interesting.
I usually watch k and c/tw dramas so when I watch jdramas I get really bored.
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Postby junebug6272 » Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:03 am

Just watched the first episode...I pretty much agree with the assessment of yuujin's acting (the fact that his costars are decent actors make his inexperience stand out even more), but on the other hand I can see why the director wanted him for the role, he has this air of child-like innocence that really suits the role. About the opening, if I hadn't seen Last Friends first I would have liked it more, but the fact that its almost an exact replica of the Last friends opening makes me wish the producers had come up with something more original...Despite all that, I did like the first episode, but j-dramas have proved to me that a good premise and good few episodes doesn't always lead to a satisfying drama (ahem, last friends)..I'm looking forward to seeing how this series turns out.

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Postby lucky_kiss » Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:59 pm

"Innocent Love" falls short of expectations"

Viewership data for the premiere episode of Fuji TV's "Innocent Love" has been released, and the network is surely disappointed with the results. The show managed only a 16.9% rating, despite starring the popular Maki Horikita.

This is the first time since last year that Fuji TV's Monday 9:00pm time slot has not had an opener above 20%. This breaks the streak that started with "Galileo" and continued with "Bara no Nai Hanaya," "CHANGE," and "Taiyou to Umi no Kyoush*tsu." Before those four shows, "Proposal Daisakusen" and "First Kiss" both debuted at over 19%.


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Postby HPriest » Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:11 pm

junebug6272 wrote:About the opening, if I hadn't seen Last Friends first I would have liked it more, but the fact that its almost an exact replica of the Last friends opening makes me wish the producers had come up with something more original...


At least they didn't use a red band..
I seriously feared that they would use one after all the promo pics of Innocent Love..
That would have been really cheap. ^^
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Postby tozacchi » Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:29 pm

Definitely one of the interesting dramas for October. Can't wait for the second episode.
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Postby westlake » Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:56 am

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toyotaku wrote:
nix_renji wrote:
lalaland_09 wrote:BTW I absolutely adore the OP! Both the song and the imagery are stunning! :wub:


That's make two of us. I like how in the beginning, the word shatters and turn into snowy thingy. And the soft colors create a really beautiful effect... The OP alone makes me wanna cry :P LOL


I third that opinion. I found myself completely captivated by the OP. I think I actually enjoyed it more than the episode itself. :P (I know better than to gauge a drama by the first ep, tho... I'll continue to watch & hope things do get stronger in the story.)


I have to agreed with that. The opening was beautiful. The episode itself was kind of slow, but it let me interested in what's going to happen next.
The casting was good, except for Yujin, geez he is really bad at acting XD.
But as I said, I'm satisfied with the rest. And actually I was kind of impressed by Maki's on screen brother. Wonder what kind of relationship he desires to have with his sister ;)

Still, 16 % viewers rating is really kind of low, let's hope it gets better and the storyline becomes more intriguing as well.


Hehe...I think Yujin's acting was decent. Which part you guys are referring to where his acting was bad? Perhaps I overlooked it. Or is it because he smiles too much...hahaha :lol
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Postby miznagase » Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:01 am

my thoughts on the first episode:

[spoiler]so...no one knows who killed kanon and jun's parents yet.
kanon thinks that her older bro is innocent though.
i have a feeling that jun really did kill his parents. but why? we'll have to wait and see.
there's something weird going on between kanon and jun.
my guess is that kanon and jun are not blood related, and jun likes kanon.
that's why he got all upset when she told him that she likes someone.

kiyoka is yujin's girlfriend who's apparently in a coma at the moment. well, we'll have to wait and see what happened to her. probably some kind of accident.

i also think that subaru is gay. he probably has a crush on yujin. the way he looked at yujin playing the piano said it all :wink: [/spoiler]
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Postby otaku_freak_16 » Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:36 am

Does anyone know if there are subs out for the first episode yet?
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Postby Nomanymore » Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:45 am

westlake wrote:Hehe...I think Yujin's acting was decent. Which part you guys are referring to where his acting was bad? Perhaps I overlooked it. Or is it because he smiles too much...hahaha :lol


yea I quiet like his smile ^^ & I think he did well in the last scene where he's by Kiyoka side too..

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Postby charia-chan » Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:47 am

Querbeet is subbing this series and no, the subs are not out yet.

Give us a bit more time!^^

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Postby marspeach » Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:44 pm

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westlake wrote:Hehe...I think Yujin's acting was decent. Which part you guys are referring to where his acting was bad? Perhaps I overlooked it. Or is it because he smiles too much...hahaha :lol


yea I quiet like his smile ^^ & I think he did well in the last scene where he's by Kiyoka side too..


I thought he was horrible in the scene with Kanon at his house when she's looking at the picture. The rest of the episode wasn't as bad though.

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miznagase wrote:[spoiler]so...no one knows who killed kanon and jun's parents yet.
kanon thinks that her older bro is innocent though.
i have a feeling that jun really did kill his parents. but why? we'll have to wait and see.
there's something weird going on between kanon and jun.
my guess is that kanon and jun are not blood related, and jun likes kanon.
that's why he got all upset when she told him that she likes someone.

kiyoka is yujin's girlfriend who's apparently in a coma at the moment. well, we'll have to wait and see what happened to her. probably some kind of accident.

i also think that subaru is gay. he probably has a crush on yujin. the way he looked at yujin playing the piano said it all :wink: [/spoiler]


Just a note, it's Youji (Yoji), not Jun. :)

[spoiler]I don't think that he killed his parents. He might be responsible for the fire, but I doubt that he was the one who murdered them beforehand. (That was mentioned in the news her boss in the housecleaning read and that fact was also known long before ep01 even aired... that they were stabbed)

There might be some relation to the orphanage as well. Your guess that they aren't blood related is a good one and to stretch this further, I think Kanon is the one that got adopted. Now all you have to combine is that Junya also was in an orphanage/church kinda of thing, since he lost both his parents at a very young age as well. So my vague theory here is that Junya and Kanon might end up being siblings. (plus that woman she worked with in the housecleaning might be their relative or even their real mother.. she showed some very weird reactions...)

Of course there are also many people who say that Junya has to be the bad guy who killed their parents, but so far the story didn't give us any hints for that theory.[/spoiler]
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Postby Nomanymore » Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:59 pm

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westlake wrote:Hehe...I think Yujin's acting was decent. Which part you guys are referring to where his acting was bad? Perhaps I overlooked it. Or is it because he smiles too much...hahaha :lol


yea I quiet like his smile ^^ & I think he did well in the last scene where he's by Kiyoka side too..


I thought he was horrible in the scene with Kanon at his house when she's looking at the picture. The rest of the episode wasn't as bad though.


yea he looks kinda stiff at that scene..

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Postby miznagase » Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:06 pm

HPriest wrote:Just a note, it's Youji (Yoji), not Jun. :)

[spoiler]I don't think that he killed his parents. He might be responsible for the fire, but I doubt that he was the one who murdered them beforehand. (That was mentioned in the news her boss in the housecleaning read and that fact was also known long before ep01 even aired... that they were stabbed)

There might be some relation to the orphanage as well. Your guess that they aren't blood related is a good one and to stretch this further, I think Kanon is the one that got adopted. Now all you have to combine is that Junya also was in an orphanage/church kinda of thing, since he lost both his parents at a very young age as well. So my vague theory here is that Junya and Kanon might end up being siblings. (plus that woman she worked with in the housecleaning might be their relative or even their real mother.. she showed some very weird reactions...)

Of course there are also many people who say that Junya has to be the bad guy who killed their parents, but so far the story didn't give us any hints for that theory.[/spoiler]

oh yeah. i meant yoji, not jun. (i got mixed up with jun's real name, yujin :D )
[spoiler]i don't think that housecleaning woman is kanon's real mother (if the mom who died on christmas eve is not her biological one).
if she really IS kanon's mother, she would've known about the fire and the fact that her bro is in jail as the suspect of killing their parents.
but i DO think that kanon and yoji are not blood related, or else, he wouldn't have acted that way after he found out kanon likes someone.

junya killed their parents??? :O
i would never have thought of that!!!
hopefully that's not true, cuz i selfishly want him to stay as the good guy :D [/spoiler]
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Postby westlake » Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:24 pm

Nomanymore wrote:
marspeach wrote:
Nomanymore wrote:
westlake wrote:Hehe...I think Yujin's acting was decent. Which part you guys are referring to where his acting was bad? Perhaps I overlooked it. Or is it because he smiles too much...hahaha :lol


yea I quiet like his smile ^^ & I think he did well in the last scene where he's by Kiyoka side too..


I thought he was horrible in the scene with Kanon at his house when she's looking at the picture. The rest of the episode wasn't as bad though.


yea he looks kinda stiff at that scene..


I see...it could be an awkward moment for Yujin. Not sure how to act out that part...to feel angry or sympathetic towards Kanon. :lol

Still it has to be because he smiles too much (btw he has a nice smile). :P Can't wait for the future episodes.
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Postby KuroSawa » Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:56 pm

quote]I have to agreed with that. The opening was beautiful. The episode itself was kind of slow, but it let me interested in what's going to happen next. [/quote]
I was captivated by the OP too, the song is really awesome. but it left me with bit of a Last Friend feeling. Especially these "one word descriptions" of each character...

miznagase wrote:my thoughts on the first episode:

[spoiler]so...no one knows who killed kanon and jun's parents yet.
kanon thinks that her older bro is innocent though.
i have a feeling that jun really did kill his parents. but why? we'll have to wait and see.
there's something weird going on between kanon and jun.
my guess is that kanon and jun are not blood related, and jun likes kanon.
that's why he got all upset when she told him that she likes someone.

kiyoka is yujin's girlfriend who's apparently in a coma at the moment. well, we'll have to wait and see what happened to her. probably some kind of accident.

i also think that subaru is gay. he probably has a crush on yujin. the way he looked at yujin playing the piano said it all :wink: [/spoiler]


I had the same feeling bout that Subaru guy , and the word describing him in the OP reassures me ;)

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[spoiler] I hope that SACRIFICE doesn't mean that he's protecting Kanon :0[/spoiler]

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Postby nix_renji » Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:32 pm

interesting predictions... Here's what I think,

[spoiler]Maybe kanon and Yoki are really blood-brothers and sisters. And the reason he threw that tantrum at prison is cause she is his only connection to the outside world. The thought of Kanon meeting someone else other than him that she cares about and abandoning him is what's making him mad. I think Yoji did something big for Kanon (hence the "sacrifice") and feels that she owes him. That's why he never wants her to leave him.
But I really like the idea (and kinda hoping) of them not being related. That would add a really cool twist to the story. Yoji is such an inresting character :heart: [/spoiler]

Everybody has their own little secret and agendas. I really hope the ending of this drama doesn't suck :pray: . Can't wait for episode 2 :thumleft:

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Postby Nomanymore » Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:02 am

KuroSawa wrote:and the brother, well

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[spoiler] I hope that SACRIFICE doesn't mean that he's protecting Kanon :0[/spoiler]




yea

[spoiler]I hope they don't make Kanon the real culprit :goggle: but it's hard to say, since there's not many characters, it'll be weird to show some unknown face as the real murderer :| [/spoiler]

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Postby celticmoon » Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:59 am

nix_renji wrote:[spoiler]Maybe kanon and Yoki are really blood-brothers and sisters. And the reason he threw that tantrum at prison is cause she is his only connection to the outside world. The thought of Kanon meeting someone else other than him that she cares about and abandoning him is what's making him mad. I think Yoji did something big for Kanon (hence the "sacrifice") and feels that she owes him. That's why he never wants her to leave him.
But I really like the idea (and kinda hoping) of them not being related. That would add a really cool twist to the story. Yoji is such an inresting character :heart: [/spoiler]

I had a similar feeling. I think that maybe he is somewhat jealous of Kanon having a fairly free life where she can fall in love with someone, and he is mad at himself for having such feelings, since in reality, he knows that she has been having a tough life too.

Anyway,... I thought the first episode was okay to pretty good. I'll be following it, at least for now. And I agree with the people who say they like the OP sequence. It's really nicely done, though I think they could have executed their use of text a little better.

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Postby junior_pansy » Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:23 am

otaku_freak_16 wrote:Does anyone know if there are subs out for the first episode yet?


Are you implying that a subbing team is working on this project?

It'd be really good news if so....

which group then?

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Postby charia-chan » Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:44 am

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Postby Kakijun » Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:35 am

Alright, alright, I just finished watching it and I think I'm missing something...

Why in the world does everyone treat this girl like that? It's not like she was the one who murdered her parents. If anything people should feel sorry for her, right? :scratch:

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Postby otaku_freak_16 » Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:44 am

junior_pansy wrote:
otaku_freak_16 wrote:Does anyone know if there are subs out for the first episode yet?


Are you implying that a subbing team is working on this project?

It'd be really good news if so....

which group then?

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=] no, i was just wondering if someone was, and if so, would the subs be out soon?
I really hope so, though =3
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Postby nix_renji » Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:34 am

Kakijun wrote:Alright, alright, I just finished watching it and I think I'm missing something...

Why in the world does everyone treat this girl like that? It's not like she was the one who murdered her parents. If anything people should feel sorry for her, right? :scratch:


I don't know how it is in Japan, but in general society can be cruel...

On a side note, Kanon's story is something like Yamada Takayuki character in the Tegami movie (http://www.tegami-movie.jp/) Highly recommended movie btw. I cried a bucket watching it. Sorry if spamming :fight:

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Postby charia-chan » Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:39 pm

We are working hard to get the subs out soon, please have some patience!^^

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Postby oceansportrait » Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:18 pm

I actually didn't mind Kitagawa Yujin's oversmiling---[spoiler]if he's calculating this, though. His character does experience hardships (mainly through his girlfriend being in a coma?), and the oversmiling emphasizes how he's forcing himself to put up a brave front, as if everything's okay.

I admit though, his oversmiling's probably due to his lack of acting ability rather than a calculated action on his part. But, if his acting improves as the episodes go on, he could use his "oversmiling" in the first few episodes to his advantage. [/spoiler]

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Postby HPriest » Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:22 am

13.3% for 2nd episode. :-(
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Postby bakababa » Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:34 am

Yeah...what's up with the drop in rating :( I was hoping that it's going to go up because ep 1 was quite good. Though I have to say that ep 1 was better than ep 2 ...

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Postby namie » Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:40 am

Wow....great dorama! But very sad.... :cry: I think that [spoiler] subaru is gay. I hope that Jinya break up with his girlfriend and fall in love with Kanon....:wub: [/spoiler]

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Postby Nomanymore » Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:06 pm

The preview of next episode really intrigues me ^^;

[spoiler]Her brother got out of prison? O_o how?
I guess we'll get to know what happened to Kiyoka &the last will probably wake up soon at this pace..
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I love the piano scene, so cute :wub:

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Postby westlake » Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:36 pm

Hmm...

[spoiler]Poor Kanon...got accused of stealing. Yea, I am puzzled as well....Kanon's brother released from prison in the next episode? I'm wondering...it feels like Kanon ..may.. get framed for attempting to kill Kiyoka? Hope not :-( As usual it's just a guess...haha :P [/spoiler]

Low ratings? oh well... :whistling:

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Postby Nomanymore » Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:05 pm

namie wrote:Wow....great dorama! But very sad.... :cry: I think that [spoiler] subaru is gay. I hope that Jinya break up with his girlfriend and fall in love with Kanon....:wub: [/spoiler]


yea,

[spoiler]but for the moment, Subaru treats Kanon nicely, I guess he'll become the 2nd who 'bullies' her if Mizuki is the 1st ...
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Postby RieRie » Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:04 pm

wah!! i'm gonna watch this when i have time.. ^^

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Postby miznagase » Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:45 pm

oh boy, can this drama get any more unrealistic???
[spoiler]why the hell would kanon just go inside a person's house without knocking on the door or anything? i thought that was really strange :glare:
they were gonna call the cops to get her arrested, but then a day later, junya actually hires her as a housekeeper??? :lol
and the piano scene where junya and kanon sings is sooooooo random and lame... :roll
anyways, kanon's brother, yuji, gets out of jail in the next episode, apparently.
i still don't understand why he has so much hatred towards junya (he said he wants to kill him).
kiyoka is getting better. that's a good sign. the story will get a lot more interesting :thumright:
there are now four people who wants to date junya. getting competitive, eh?? :P [/spoiler]

i'm not surprised that the ratings are dropping.
maybe if the story gets more interesting...let's hope it will :thumleft:
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Postby HPriest » Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:48 pm

In some news it was mentioned that the 2nd half will be better once everything is settled, but that sounded more like hope rather than a fact. I think that the story will be misleading us until the half and then gets more interesting once we get some really surprising new fact. So far it hasn't really been surprising.. it was weird. ^_^
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