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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:46 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Wow just watched the first episode, it was so good. The jazz towards the end was superb, and the vocalist was amazing! I think the story it teribly interesting. I'm sorry japanese don't feel the same. Plus it has chiaki.... oh how I swoon.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:31 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Just saw episode 6....the climax is probably swinging in any time now... but its getting interesting.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:06 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

This is by far the best show I've seen in a long time!
I love the soundtrack and the story but most of all do I love the cast. Unnecessary to mention that Matsuda Ryuuhei is freaking hot! Wub

But what's with the poor ratings?!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:59 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I want episode 7. Now. Crying I wish I could at least support them and watch it on tv...

Btw, is there a download link or anything for the ending song? It's so totally addictive.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:23 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Yoshio just can't catch a break. Ep 7 ratings were 6.0
This is probably why he wants to kill himself ;)

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:25 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I really don't get this. It's such a good show. Suspenseful story, great soundtrack, flawless acting... Can the Japanese specators really be that dense about good stuff? I'm a little irritated that "some shows" get far better ratings even though they are just the same as many others before.

Referring to the most recent episode,
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does it make you guys kind of sad, too? There were some nice new twists in this but I'm kind of disappointed with the new ending clip. It looks like Rika is one of the bad guys now. Sad When Heita took out the knife I was like: Please make Rika come and stop him so he won't have to betray her or kill Yoshio. Aww... Alcoholic



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After watching the new ending like 10 times it finally grew on me. Also I think Rika doesn't turn out to be that bad as she doesn't finish Yoshio off but instead even pushes him forward. I really like her (and Heita) which is why I'm happy she appears to remain one of the good guys after all. Well, I haven't watched the preview because I don't like the spoilers in it, so I could be completely wrong. I'm just hoping for her not to become all freaky or anything. Btw, isn't Kaname Jun so totally cool, too? It's the first time I've seen him fighting. Until today I only saw in him Nao's nerdy elder brother in 'Tatta hitotsu no koi'. Tongue Surprise, surprise...
Anyways, the second ending is just like the first one full of symbols which I really like. It's cool how the sky behind Minami changes from blue to a creepy grayish black when Yoshio passes him. I think it's also interesting how he passes Mizuho as if having a new goal. I LOVE the show! Wub
Btw, anyone noticed what Sugimoto is reading? http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E5%A4%9C%E5%9B%9E%E3%82%8A%E5%85%88%E7%94%9F-IKKI-COMIX-%E5%9C%9F%E7%94%B0-%E4%B8%96%E7%B4%80/dp/4091885926/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1203553390&sr=1-16 Lol

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haha i like the way you've analysed even just the ending clip. it was such a pleasant surprise to see a new one! doesn't usually happen in jdoramas. i find the kung-fu scenes really pleasant, i have to admit.

i love this jdorama, i think it absolutely rocks, considering i've watch like 30+ dramas in my short addiction, and i still think it's darn good.
so why on earth does it have such horrible ratings!? Sad

i HOPE and PRAY that it doesn't get shortened cos of that, though its not really possible since he MUST have 4 days left :p
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 2:38 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Yay, finally a new post!! clapping

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i HOPE and PRAY that it doesn't get shortened cos of that, though its not really possible since he MUST have 4 days left :p


I don't think they will shorten it. Did something like this ever happen before? They even shot a new ending clip which means they put some more bucks than necessary into it, too. Mr. Green

Btw. after watching all 7 episodes again I would find quite a couple of hints that lead to my first guess
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that Rika's father could be Minami.


What do you guys think? It would be so drama-ish, too.
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Here I thought this was going to be a simple drama Laugh

The story is getting strange (in a good way). I can't re-watch all the eps right now so I'm going from memory here, but tell me if you think this is accurate *spoilers through ep 7*:

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Minami was a psychologist that could suss out people's true characters very quickly. He has been released from his cushy university gig and his import business fails. He needs money...

He immediately recognizes Yoshio as a person that is susceptible to suggestion. He pretends to befriend Yoshio and plants the seeds of negative Yoshio (hypnosis? at least that's what I think they're getting at) to ensure that he will eventually kill himself.

Minami arranges a wedding between his lover (Mizuho) and Yoshio so that when he dies she will collect his life insurance as next of kin. Whether or not she knew the full extent of the plan beforehand isn't quite clear yet.

Minami apparently dies (at least, everyone thinks so) at which point Mizuho assumes that the plan is bust and leaves Yoshio. Minami remains in hiding from everyone, even his pawn Mizuho (why? The only explanation I can think of is that it was a plan to collect his own life insurance [via an intermediary] thus requiring that he change his identity).

Fast forward eleven years, Mizuho comes to control a successful business after the previous CEO mysteriously dies...His death is almost certainly connected to her whether she knows it or not (Minami working behind the scenes?). Meanwhile, negative Yoshio surfaces at last and convinces the real Yoshio to carry out the plan from eleven years ago. That brings us to episode one.

Question: Is Mizuho's shrink connected to Minami in any way? Or, more outlandishly, is possible that he IS Minami (after plastic surgery maybe)? I'm trying really hard to think of a reason to include this character at all, unless he has a bigger role than we're led to believe.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 2:45 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

kvertand wrote:
Here I thought this was going to be a simple drama Laugh

The story is getting strange (in a good way). I can't re-watch all the eps right now so I'm going from memory here, but tell me if you think this is accurate *spoilers through ep 7*:

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Minami was a psychologist that could suss out people's true characters very quickly. He has been released from his cushy university gig and his import business fails. He needs money...

He immediately recognizes Yoshio as a person that is susceptible to suggestion. He pretends to befriend Yoshio and plants the seeds of negative Yoshio (hypnosis? at least that's what I think they're getting at) to ensure that he will eventually kill himself.

Minami arranges a wedding between his lover (Mizuho) and Yoshio so that when he dies she will collect his life insurance as next of kin. Whether or not she knew the full extent of the plan beforehand isn't quite clear yet.

Minami apparently dies (at least, everyone thinks so) at which point Mizuho assumes that the plan is bust and leaves Yoshio. Minami remains in hiding from everyone, even his pawn Mizuho (why? The only explanation I can think of is that it was a plan to collect his own life insurance [via an intermediary] thus requiring that he change his identity).

Fast forward eleven years, Mizuho comes to control a successful business after the previous CEO mysteriously dies...His death is almost certainly connected to her whether she knows it or not (Minami working behind the scenes?). Meanwhile, negative Yoshio surfaces at last and convinces the real Yoshio to carry out the plan from eleven years ago. That brings us to episode one.

Question: Is Mizuho's shrink connected to Minami in any way? Or, more outlandishly, is possible that he IS Minami (after plastic surgery maybe)? I'm trying really hard to think of a reason to include this character at all, unless he has a bigger role than we're led to believe.



That's generally right, although I am quite confused too...

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It's like, so now there's a life insurance scam between Heita, Rika and Yoshio AND another one between Minami, Mizuho and Yoshio? While the big baddie Minami appears to be interested in this theory of creating a negative anti-personality in someone for therapeutic purposes, what he really wants is to drive his patients to suicide? To collect insurance money... 11 years later?! I have to say, I wasn't half this confused a few episodes back.

ALSO, if all this isn't enough, what is the role of Mr. Pinky-biting Fetish in connecting Shinobu and Mizuho? Although I was quite surprised to see Hiraizumi Sei appear after they made fun of him in ep1.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 6:16 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I have to say this drama is getting much suspenseful and turning into a psychological drama.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:58 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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I dont know but plastic surgery sounds a little too drama-ish to me. Tongue Judging Mizuho's psychologist from the episode when, uhm... "Kaname Jun" bribed him I'd say he's not connected in any way to the main characters aside from being a reason to let us know that there is a weak side of Mizuho, too.


As for the rest, I pretty much agree. But that's mostly because it has been said in the 6th and 7th episode already...

I'm curious about the politician, too. What a weird character!
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And I'm still convinced that Rika's father is Minami. It would be just so weird to have 2 similar stories in one and the same show without any connection whatsoever.

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yeah they've actually stopped shows early. one that i can vividly recall would be horikita maki's "teppan shoujo akane" which did receive horrible ratings, and got cut one episode and ended at 9 eps.

but i suspect a show like "ashita no kita yoshio" shouldn't suffer the same fate given the type of show it is.

still love how every details matters in this show Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:27 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

unclehock wrote:
yeah they've actually stopped shows early. one that i can vividly recall would be horikita maki's "teppan shoujo akane" which did receive horrible ratings, and got cut one episode and ended at 9 eps

but everyone says the show was really boring, too which Ashita no Kita Yoshi is definitely not. there's a certain romance drama in this season that I'd really like to get stopped though. Roll Eyes
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still love how every details matters in this show


yeah, that's what I also like about "Nana", anime and manga. every single detail matters in some way. both Nana's mangaka and Ashita no Kita Yoshio's screenwriter must be brilliant! but Ashita no Kita's cinematography is also one of the main reasons why it's so great.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:49 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Ratings are 5.8 for ep 8. At this rate it's avg ratings will fall below the 4 sisters show and be the lowest of this season.

Basically, anything with less than a 10 avg ratings will not be able to get a award. because they are popularity contests (voted on by readers) and something with < 10 rating will not have enough watchers to give it a chance.

It's strange tho, is there such a large disconnect between foreign viewers who've seen this drama and the viewers in Japan?

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