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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:39 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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Well I want to help wiki by adding missing info for jdramas. I don't have any information on any particular jdrama right now, but i'll try to help.

Make sure you read and understand the following:

http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Help:Contents
http://wiki.d-addicts.com/DramaWiki:DramaWiki_is_not
http://wiki.d-addicts.com/DramaWiki:Style_guide
http://wiki.d-addicts.com/DramaWiki:Japanese_TV_Show_Article_Formatting

Once you understand these, PM either Ruroshin or Gryzze requesting for an account.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:55 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Has anyone else been experiencing ridiculously slow loading times when browsing the D-Wiki?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:04 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

it has been slow for the past few days..i cant even edit sometimes because the page keeps on timing out.. Sad
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:58 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Performance should improve now.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:13 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Thanks Ruroshin. I've been using it tonight and it's been back up to speed. I appreciate all the hard work. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:21 am    Post subject: Talent Agencies   Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

How would the powers that be feel about transitioning actors' existing, external talent agency links into DWiki category links? Then we'd generate lists of the agencies' other clients to which we could manually add info about the agencies themselves.

IMHO, there are two main reasons the average user would click on an agency link: to learn about the agency, or to learn more about the actor.

If someone wants to learn about the agency, that person would be better served by an informative internal page rather than being placed immediately onto the agency's cruel doorstep.

Those who want to learn more about the actor can follow the "Official Site" link at the bottom of the actor's DWiki page. Then we wouldn't have the inevitable two links to the same domain on each actor's page.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:54 am    Post subject: Re: Talent Agencies   Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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How would the powers that be feel about transitioning actors' existing, external talent agency links into DWiki category?

Against. DramaWiki is TV dramas FIRST. The actors who perform in them are secondary. As I've voted down other categories like genre, extending the production categories, and even blood type, I think talent agencies don't need to be emphasized any more within DramaWiki. So Johnny's Jimusho hires only males? Hurrah! OSCAR owns Ueto Aya? Ummmm, okay. Maybe you like the talent agencies. I personally think they're almost mafia-like, and we don't need to publicize them any more than we already have.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:57 am    Post subject: Re: Re: Talent Agencies   Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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Maybe you like the talent agencies. I personally think they're almost mafia-like, and we don't need to publicize them any more than we already have.

I don't know enough about the talent agencies to form an educated opinion like that. That's the reason I come to the Drama Wiki, to learn from people like yourself who are more knowledgeable than I am. It's not earth shattering, but the proposal would enable someone like me to see at a glance which actors Johnny's controls, and through them which dramas Johnny influences; or how often Oscar Pro manages to foist other Oscar clients onto Ueto vehicles. Putting the data into a more useful form would do no more to publicize the agencies than now; less, since instead of hundreds of links to them there would be only a handful.

Well, I understand your position on cruft. But since the data is there, can you make a Gruling about whether the agency link should go to the agency's main page or to the agency's actor-specific page? It's inconsistent.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:59 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I read the first few pages and the last few pages, so if this is in the middle somewhere, I apologize.

Are there plans to eventually allow information about Asian movies in the wiki as well, or is there another website that does this? Often, I'll look at an actor's bio page and want to find out what the movie they were in is about, but there's never anything but maybe a link to the official website, often in a language I can't understand.

Even if D-Addicts doesn't allow it, is there another wiki site that does this? It is a feature I would like very much!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:09 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Haha, nice picture.

Well it is a good idea to think about adding new categories like company pages. In wiki terms it would make sense if we will have (or already have) several articles about companies or related articles (artists?). Since there are already some articles on Wikipedia and on ThePPN we have been linking them instead of creating our own. How many articles about (noteworthy) companies or agencies could we expect and are the associated artists drama related at all? How hard is it to keep track of the clients(artists) leaving a company and maybe joining another, or isn't that a problem?

Generally I like the idea of associating existing articles through new categories. In this case we would need a (sub)category for each company or agency and a super category for all the subcategories. But one nasty thing is that you will constantly have to switch or remove the categories if the persons change or end their relationship to a company (or small mafia-like managements if you like). I don't like adding information to the wiki that is subject to change and needs to be updated or validated a lot. I don't know much about the japenese (or generally asian) entertainment industry. Just some thoughts...

And some random related links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny%27s_Entertainment
http://wiki.theppn.org/Category:Talent_Agency

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:18 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

onaneagleswings wrote:
Are there plans to eventually allow information about Asian movies in the wiki as well, or is there another website that does this? Often, I'll look at an actor's bio page and want to find out what the movie they were in is about, but there's never anything but maybe a link to the official website, often in a language I can't understand.

Even if D-Addicts doesn't allow it, is there another wiki site that does this? It is a feature I would like very much!

No, there will be no movie related content. Every webshop has this info because most movies are being distributed on DVD. There are big moviedatabases on the Web already.

Links: Internet Movie Database
For webshops you may like to check our Links Of Interest thread.. I don't want to spam here. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:23 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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Generally I like the idea of associating existing articles through new categories. In this case we would need a (sub)category for each company or agency and a super category for all the subcategories. But one nasty thing is that you will constantly have to switch or remove the categories if the persons change or end their relationship to a company (or small mafia-like managements if you like). I don't like adding information to the wiki that is subject to change and needs to be updated or validated a lot.

This potentially changing data already exists on the wiki, so unless we remove it we are already in a position where we have to update it. If we convert the existing references to categories rather than links to the agencies, then the agency category pages would be at least as accurate as the actors' pages with no additional overhead. I'm talking a bare bones category page (and super category, as you say) that just correlates the actors in a given stable and letting ThePPN and Wikipedia people write up the agency if anybody over there cares.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:41 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

The reason I'm against categorizing by artist association is that DramaWiki is not aka ActorWiki. That's my platform - put our energies into the TV dramas, which is our number-one focus. We are still missing thousands of TV dramas on DramaWiki. Ai no Gekijyo is still over 50-percent incomplete. 98-percent of the 1980s shows are still not documented. Quashlo is working his ass off at cleaning all of our bad romanizing up and completing the existing dramas. Let's continue locating and documenting these shows, and clean up what we already have.

ThePPN does an EXCELLENT job focusing on the artists, and a lousy job at TV dramas. I don't see the logic in repeating what they're doing on DramaWiki, and IMHO vise-versa. That's the whole point about the Internet! It is a waste of resources to repeat and data mine the same information on every site! You go to KFC for fried chicken, and hamburgers at a burger joint.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:14 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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ThePPN does an EXCELLENT job focusing on the artists

OK, I understand your priorities and will work on filling in the 80s and early 90s dramas. But may I say with all due respect, even if you didn't intend it the Drama Wiki is the premier English source for data on the artists. I mean, ThePPN lists a total of 84 Japanese actors. You have over 1100. They have 150 Japanese actresses. You have 1048. This is where the data is, not over there. Give yourself some credit!

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You are my hero Doraburi, love the images. I have nothing to add to this, I was just wondering if it's only me experiencing a 403 forbidden error when using the google search on dramawiki? Actual pages work fine just the search engine seems wonky?

Edit - Works fine for me now, must have bee something on my side.
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