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amrayu Joined: 19 Dec 2003 Total posts: 1907 Location: East Bay Gender: Unknown |
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:57 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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One suggestion. Once a post hits 5 votes, no one can vote on it anymore so that'll cut down on Reported posts plus emails.
Or ppl can still vote but once a post hits 5 votes, only 1 email is sent.
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Ruroshin Joined: 05 Dec 2003 Total posts: 2747 Gender: Male |
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:58 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| amrayu wrote: | One suggestion. Once a post hits 5 votes, no one can vote on it anymore so that'll cut down on Reported posts plus emails.
Or ppl can still vote but once a post hits 5 votes, only 1 email is sent. |
yeah i thought about that, the only people that can vote past 5 votes are moderators since they're the only ones that can see it
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gryzze Joined: 16 Apr 2005 Total posts: 1597 Location: Sweden Gender: Male |
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:01 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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I see that the test post got reported now, but where is the option to keep the post?_________________ Japan-TV Fansubs http://jtv-drama.net/
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amrayu Joined: 19 Dec 2003 Total posts: 1907 Location: East Bay Gender: Unknown |
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:02 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| Ruroshin wrote: | | amrayu wrote: | One suggestion. Once a post hits 5 votes, no one can vote on it anymore so that'll cut down on Reported posts plus emails.
Or ppl can still vote but once a post hits 5 votes, only 1 email is sent. |
yeah i thought about that, the only people that can vote past 5 votes are moderators since they're the only ones that can see it  |
Good job! Looks like a good feature so far.
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Ruroshin Joined: 05 Dec 2003 Total posts: 2747 Gender: Male |
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:03 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| gryzze wrote: | | I see that the test post got reported now, but where is the option to keep the post? |
oh yeah will implement that feature tonight.
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amrayu Joined: 19 Dec 2003 Total posts: 1907 Location: East Bay Gender: Unknown |
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:04 pm Post subject: Post Rating: -1 |
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| gryzze wrote: | | I see that the test post got reported now, but where is the option to keep the post? |
I think you just delete the post via normal modding methods. But if you want to keep just leave it as is?
This might prove troublesome later on? What if a mod wants to keep but another deletes it?
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Ruroshin Joined: 05 Dec 2003 Total posts: 2747 Gender: Male |
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:31 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| amrayu wrote: | | gryzze wrote: | | I see that the test post got reported now, but where is the option to keep the post? |
I think you just delete the post via normal modding methods. But if you want to keep just leave it as is?
This might prove troublesome later on? What if a mod wants to keep but another deletes it? |
I will have to implement the moderator keep function otherwise the users will not be able to see the post anymore. I think the moderator keep function will clear out the report but what to do next I'm still deciding on.
I'm thinking of either doing:
a. add -20 to the vote count so that its visible again but it allows the community to again vote it off if they feel that strongly against it.
b. add a new flag to indicate the post has been kept by a moderator and made visible to the public again and no more voting on the post is possible.
opinions?
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InTr4nceWeTrust Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Total posts: 837 Location: Mission Viejo, California Age: 21 Gender: Male |
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:42 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| -20? for a total of -15? seems a bit much. i think -10 for a total of -5 and a flag to indicate that it's been voted off before and set for "keep". if it gets voted off again, then the moderators should have the option for either permanent keep or delete (no more future voting for that post). _________________ ...
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toyotakuLocation: United States Gender: Unknown |
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:47 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| Ruroshin wrote: | Try it out and give me feedback over the week. What I'm looking for is:
* is the post threshold of 5 sufficient |
Probably, since it prompts for a moderator to make a decision (which I think I understand is what would happen).
| Ruroshin wrote: | | * is the minimun post number 50 too high or too low |
I think that's a good number. It's not so high that it seems unattainable (that's actually pretty easy to get to with even minimal involvement), but high enough that I would hope it would prevent the posting frenzy that occurs with such requirements.
| Ruroshin wrote: | | * is the +2/-2 too high or too low for the topic owner |
I'm not sure how to word this, so bear with me. I may not understand why it's so important for a topic owner to have more of an impact (and I'm assuming this system would be applied to ALL topics, not just subtitle threads, right?). What's to stop a topic owner from voting against a post for no other reason than they disagree with it? The threads I've enjoyed most on this forum have been the ones where there's been differences of opinion (fortunately handled without flaming most of the time) and I'd hate to see the freedom of discussion hampered. I also don't mean to make a mountain out of a mole hill... perhaps it wouldn't be an issue, either from the beginning or once the newness of the system wore off. I just don't get why the topic owner should have a higher vote (other than in problematic subtitle threads, where I do understand why the fansubber would want to nip things in the bud quickly).
Thanks for all this hard work, Ruroshin.
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gryzze Joined: 16 Apr 2005 Total posts: 1597 Location: Sweden Gender: Male |
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:00 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| Ruroshin wrote: | I'm thinking of either doing:
a. add -20 to the vote count so that its visible again but it allows the community to again vote it off if they feel that strongly against it.
b. add a new flag to indicate the post has been kept by a moderator and made visible to the public again and no more voting on the post is possible.
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I don't think the "a" option is necessary. They can still use the report button if they think the decision was wrong. I'd go with "b"._________________ Japan-TV Fansubs http://jtv-drama.net/
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InTr4nceWeTrust Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Total posts: 837 Location: Mission Viejo, California Age: 21 Gender: Male |
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:02 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| Good point, gryzze. I withdraw my last suggestion. _________________ ...
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:27 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| @InTr4nce: hope you don't mind, but I tested the vote option on your post. the new system works like a charm.....though it looks as if my latest vote was the trigger of your post's deletion.. ^^;; gomenasai~ _________________ watching: 1 Mom & 3 Dads, Around 40, Gokusen 3, Fated To Love You, Hokaben, Last Friends, Osen, Puzzle, ROOKIES, They Kiss Again, Zettai Kareshi
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InTr4nceWeTrust Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Total posts: 837 Location: Mission Viejo, California Age: 21 Gender: Male |
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:18 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| no problem, lilswtangel. you actually voted on a different post than the others did ^_^" _________________ ...
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jholic Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Total posts: 6192 Location: missin' hawaii Gender: Male |
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:04 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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Ruro:
thanks for taking many of the suggestions into consideration.
i have a few more:
1. i think the votes to delete should be increased to 10. the reason for this is NO ONE votes to keep a post unless they start seeing negative votes. but by five votes, the post may already be gone before anyone can try to support it. if ten is too many, maybe seven or eight?
2. Delete Vote is a bit confusing. And when you vote to KEEP, it's negative, but if you vote to DELETE, it's positive. seems a bit counter-intuitive. what about POST RATING (10 to delete)? then a vote to keep is positive, but a vote to delete is negative.
3. i agree w/ gryzze that a revived post should just be flagged with no additional voting. is it possible to place a note in POST RATING, "kept by mod, REPORT if needed".
but the feature seems pretty neat so far._________________ Use THUMBS UP/DOWN buttons to KEEP or DELETE posts.
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