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asianbuzz Joined: 29 May 2007 Total posts: 18 Gender: Unknown |
 Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:35 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| nophankh wrote: | | groink wrote: | Here's my point of view.... It seems that within the community, it is looked upon negatively when someone become a professional subber. It has absolutely nothing to do with fansubbing and such. It is basically looked upon as "selling out". For example, if a fansubber from XYZ Fansubs decided to get a job at KTSF-TV as a subber, most of the community would think he's selling out.
Why? Because, just like computer software and music, people believe that subtitles should be free. Even the people who are subbing at TV stations right now are looked at negatively. These professionals tend to focus less on detail or accuracy, and their work appears cold. So there's also pride involved - where the amateur feels that he can do much better than a professional.
Most of the people here forgot (or never knew) that just a few years ago subbing was all done professionally. But, because fansubbing is so huge today, the people who enjoy fansubbing couldn't think of gettings subs any other way - especially if they had to pay for it.
So that's basically it in a nutshell. asianbuzz is selling out! He would rather turn his skills into money than to do it for free. That's why any business model he brings up will not be welcomed here. If I were asianbuzz, I would do it anyway, but not talk about it in public - especially in a community like D-Addicts. If he understood the community, this topic wouldn't even exist.
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I guess what you wrote doesn't make sense to me. I personally don't care if Asianbuzz is selling out or if fansubbers have pride in their work. That's nice and all, but how well is this business venture gonna progress. It doesn't seem possible with our size and ddl links.
I read somewhere that the Korean wave "hallyu" is declining. More exports of American tv shows are being exported into asian countries.
Prison Break is like Korea's favorite American TV show. That's what I've heard.
I don't see asian dramas hitting the Western market any time soon. I watch a lot of dramas and I don't think the taste and style of these dramas can ever enter the US market where things are more graphic and hardcore.
I have a video ipod and I've never downloaded music from iTune...EVER! I think the only reason iTune did so well because all iPods need iTune to upload files. I wouldn't even look at iTune if it wasn't a requirement for uploading files to my iPod. I hate iTune.
sorry for being so negative. IF you find a good way for me to get cheap subs and quick I'm all for it, but for now, I just think it's impossible. |
Nophank, I actually agree with a lot of your point. When I first came to the US, everything looked uninteresting to me. Not to say it is worse or better, it's just that I do miss my TVB programs. In the process of looking for TVB shows, I stumbled upon Kdramas and found that they are really good too. Western movies and tv shows goes to Asia all the time, the reverse may happen too one day. Afterall, we are in a trend where Americans are remaking Asian films (The grudge, Departed, Lake House etc) or showing them as they are (KungFu Hustle, Crouching Tiger. Flying Daggers). They're also remaking Latino shows. The way "Ugly Betty" has been mainstream is how I envision it for Asian content. I envision a day where Asian dramas can be as ubiquitous and mainstreamed as others (like anime). Hence, asianbuzz  Besides, Asian dramas gives us the ability to define ourselves on our own terms, we don't have to be mysterious kungfu fighters who eat all kind of weird things and utter confusing statements.
I remember on a flight to Vegas where I was sitting beside a Caucasian. She was intrigued with what I was watching on my 17" Mac, because I was fighting hard not to laugh. Her curiosity got the best of her and I was soon interpreting while watching with her. She was laughing after each interpretation, I get the first laugh. She later told me that she had no idea Asian dramas are this good. We were watching "Kim Sam Soon", particularly the toilet seen of Sam soon and "sam shik gi".
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:24 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| asianbuzz wrote: |
Thanks for the input. They're good. Most people thought iTunes model would fail, record companies thought Apple was crazy to think people would pay .99 for a song when they can download for free. Steve Jobs had to fight record companies for insisting .99 per song , no more no less. Yet, iTune is one of the most successful business. The record company also make money (maybe not as much as they want). Apple gave customer value added service, free itunes software and slick ipod designs. It's became popular that it became a must to be selling on itunes. For now, it may look like our market is small, but it has potential to grow where license companies would work out something to still make some money. Afterall, who would have thought kdrama would generate this much interest as it has now. Business model changes over time, there's no denying that. But it may also mean there's 2 -5 years time to figure out a way to make things improve. |
Not to dampen your spirits further, but Apple's iTunes store doesn't make any money. They make their money on the IPods and Macintosh computers. The reason why iTunes is still considered a success is because of the tie-in with their hardware products (IPods needs iTunes to work, iTunes is pre-installed on a Mac, Macs are more secure than MS-based PC, etc.)
If Apple had iTunes as their only product, they wouldn't be in business for very long.
I suppose you have to sell a good video player to go along with those KDramas and subs. 
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