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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:36 pm    Post subject: Re: This is how I usually do.   Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

delsxyz wrote:
fayewolf wrote:
I'm having the exact same problems.... my Philips 5982 is cutting off a good portion of my subtitles, not displaying the 2nd line etc to a point where it's very irritating and bothered me alot.

I tried divxmuxx also and have the same problem, 2 sec and the file is no where to be found. I used it with Kuitan

I wonder if anyone can suggest a DVD player where subtitle isn't an issue??

I have an avayon that does not have a problem at all but it every other day it will break and says disc loading....


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I usally burn avis onto DVD+RW and play it on Divx certified player (like Toishiba, Samsung, Phililps, etc.) And check if subtitles are readable or not. If subtitles are
chopped off badly, I re-encode the video in letterbox. Details as follows.

RE-encoding: Use eitehr TMPGEnc or VirtualDub or any other which can give you
resize function. For example in VirtualDub, if you have installed plugins, you might
see resize in
Video-Filters...then ADD. You shall see bunches of installed filters, and find
Resize.
If the original video is 704x396,
then New size (x)Relative % 90 (then the absolute vale changes to 633.6x356.4
automatically. Aspect ratio (x) same as source
Framing Options: Letterbox/crop to size 704x396

now OK to close. Pick your video compression, like Divx 6.61 Codec (specify
Home Theater Profile, Encoding presets (your choice 6~7 or even 10)
Rate control. your choice like 1 pass bitrate 1500 (just an example)
and video tab. (x) No resize Image Processing Interface: Change to De-interlace source
as many avis are interlaced.

Now start encoding. You shall see black boarders around the picture. When you
view video on TV screen, this blackboard will ensure that the subtitles are shown
100%.(will not be chopped off)
salut


Thanks for the detail explanations!! I'll test this out!! Do you know how long it takes approximately for each episodes to re-encode? Thanks!


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:05 pm    Post subject: up to   Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Everything is up to
a: Your Processor's speed
b: Co-current activity (like you are not encoding it while you sleep or when
there is no other activiity vs you are encoding it while you are downloading
files using BT client)
c: Filters and settings ( Resize, brightness, color control, de-interlacing, noise
reduction, etc.)
You can do some test by using VirtualDub's jobcontrol.
ex All filters save as 1 and start...and see estimated finish time.
Eliminate one filter and save it as 1 and start...and see estimated finish time
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 5:59 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Thanks for the detailed information.. I don´t know if I´m burning them with ISO or UDF but I will check it out thanks.
If I can´t burn it with ISO I will try out nero..
I´m using SonicDVD burning software now but I never knew that there is a difference in how I burn them.. so I will try it out.. =)

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:54 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

k.. finally got around to testing if i could integrate the subs onto a divx file after putting the SRT file thru "Subtitle Workshop" without re-encoding the episode. bad news: the video's transition/motion were pixelated, but on the brighter side: it did integrate the subs onto the file. thats gonna be a pain to re-encode each episode.

i'm guessing that divxmuxwizz works with a certain divx codec and not compatible with the newer one installed in most of our systems.

so if anyone out there has a better solution, plz help us or else we'll be re-ecoding forever =(

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 2:24 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

So I tried to burn with Nero 7.
I selected DVD (ISO) and then selected the files (Videoname = Subtitlename) but the subtitles still doesn´t show up...

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 4:03 pm    Post subject: Did you really follow the manual?   Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

JoeCheng wrote:
So I tried to burn with Nero 7.
I selected DVD (ISO) and then selected the files (Videoname = Subtitlename) but the subtitles still doesn´t show up...


If you followed two directions, but yet you could not see subtitles on screen.
Then, there is nothing you can do.
A- Media
Burned as ISO (from Nero 7), with proper names for avi and srt files.
B-as long as you follow the directions in the manual
There are various ways. Toshiba, Panasonic, Samseung. Philips and your Pensonic.
For example. The popular Philips specifies as follows

1. On the Disc Menu use UP/DOWN keys to highlight the subtitle file.
2. Press SUBTITLE button. "DIVX SUBTITLE SELECTED" appears on TV screen.
3. Press UP/DOWN to higlight the movie, press OK to play.

During the playback press SUBTITLE to select available font: SUBTITLE1/1, LATIN 1 (ISO 8859-1), LATIN 2 (ISO 8859-2), CYRILLIC (ISO 8859-5).
Subtitle files with following filename extensions srt, smi, sub are supported.
Using 8+3 English filenames with plain English subs.
If your file name is (as nowadays file names are getting longer and longer)
ex Hanazakari no Kimitachi e ep10 (704x396 ).avi
and if sub is Hanazakari no Kimitachi e ep10 (704x396 ).srt
then, your player cannot handle files internally.
you must rename them as in
Hanazaka.avi Hanazaka.srt

You should read the manual of PENSONIC player and make sure you really follow
the method. If you say you followed every line, then, you are simply doomed.
Use google to enter Pensonic xxx player or Pensonic xxxx subtitles or something
to see if there are specific ways to play subtitles.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:30 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

itsukiD wrote:
k.. here's what i tried. used dr divx to re-encode kuitan ep9, took two hours to re-encode on 2.2ghz system. then i tried to use divxmuxwizz. ERROR. found out thru some tests, that it was the SRT file that was not allowing the program to run correctly. so, opened the srt file in Subtitle Workshop, quick save and put it thru divxmuxwizz. SUCCESS!!! ps the .net framework did not need to be updated. i apologize in advance for the poor picture quality, the camera is only 4mp, but i was tryin to showcase the subs, trust me there was no quality loss.

here's what it looks like:
on philips dvp5960 with Porkupan Firmware on sony 50"


marrying a millionaire ep1 (same setup)


n jus for sh**s n giggles, Kuitan ep 9 on pioneer 393s on rca 50
':

dissapointed with the pioneer cuz the subs were not centered, it was like justified left.

remember the output of the file is divx, so remember to change the file extension after all conversions, dr.divx, divxmuxwizz.

so good luck you guys... most of the additional tools used in this experiment can be found on videohelp.com

as for the .ass subs, i have yet to try them on divxmuxwizz... i dont think they are supported on divxmuxwizz, maybe when i have some free time ill try to figure out a way to do so.

pm me if you need further assistance.
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I tried putting the avi and srt file on same directory as divxmuxwizz and it worked but the file was not playable even on windows media player Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:26 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

you are dooommmeeedd!!!!! hehe joke


you have to re-encode them, there's just no other way.

Here is a straightforward solution. Reencode them to mpeg2 or DVD format. Mpeg2 looks absolutely better than divx on a big screen with full rich detail.

http://playbackhelp.com/doc/guides/queue/

Once you're up and about, everything is simple as putting the files in "que." You batch encode as many as you like.
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