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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:53 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

gixo,

The TOEFL is the Test of English as a foreign language, it is given to people who are not native english speakers to test them on their english, the "Japanese one" or Japanese test you are talking about is the JLPT (Japanese language proficiency test) which comes in 4 levels (4 easiest and 1 the hardest). It is to test non native Japanese speakers on their level of Japanese.

At times if you are not a native english speaker and wish to become a English teacher in Japan you'll need to demostrate your english ability/qualifications and the TOEFL will usually satisfy that requirement.

JLPT is usually required if a student wants to enter a fulltime regular Japanese University, since they need to demostrate enough Japanese skills to operate in a Japanese speaking environment.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:22 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

i think you should consider attending a university where you are and after two years of studying, then do the study abroad program if you want to. what's the rush to have to transfer to japan immediately after graduating from hs? i don't know about other universities, but the the difference between the two schools are tremendous. it takes a long time to get used to college. not to mention, some get homesick. as much as you want to leave for japan after graduating, you'll probably still get homesick.

there's also a lot to do before transferring schools to another country. you have to do all the paperwork, purchase tickets, learn about their culture and language. even if you are going to transfer to a school that teaches in english, you'll have to learn japanese anyway since you'll be living there for god knows how long. and let me tell you, japanese isn't the easiest language to learn. aside from that, living in japan is extremely expensive. the standard of living there is so high that anyone will say it's expensive.

just think of the first two years as experience...learning how to communicate with others, adapting to the college life, saving up some money for studying abroad (i had to pay for tuition at my university AND the university i went to in japan), etc.

there's no rush. i don't know why in particular you sound like you want to go there immediately. waiting is also a good thing to see if this is just a spur of the moment thing. by the way, if it's also because you watched dramas and got interested in japan, let me tell you that life in japan is far different from the lives in dramas.

oh i forgot...courses in japan are intense. when i first entered college, i found that i had freedom and slacked off a little in the beginning of school. my grades dropped and then i had to develop my own effective study methods. if you fall behind while studying in japan, it makes a great difference. so just take your time.
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College in Japan is WAY easier than US colleges. I majored in Japanese at U. of WA and studied abroad for 1 year in Japan at Aoyama Gakuen which is a normal college in Japan. Meaning that I was enrolled in classes like any normal Japanese student along with 2 Japanese language classes. It is hard to get into college for Japanese people but college is considered a fun time to relax and enjoy before becoming "members of society" so to speak. Not all colleges follow the same curriculum of course but at AGU I had 10 classes a week all of which met once a week. I spoke to other exchange students also since U. of WA offers exchange to Japan in multiple colleges and it seemed to me that everyone had an easy time in Japan. I don't regret going at all though. The way to learn is not just by being in college there but just experiencing life and immersing yourself. Hope this helps possible exchange students!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:01 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

spacecommand wrote:
gixo,

The TOEFL is the Test of English as a foreign language, it is given to people who are not native english speakers to test them on their english, the "Japanese one" or Japanese test you are talking about is the JLPT (Japanese language proficiency test) which comes in 4 levels (4 easiest and 1 the hardest). It is to test non native Japanese speakers on their level of Japanese.

At times if you are not a native english speaker and wish to become a English teacher in Japan you'll need to demostrate your english ability/qualifications and the TOEFL will usually satisfy that requirement.

JLPT is usually required if a student wants to enter a fulltime regular Japanese University, since they need to demostrate enough Japanese skills to operate in a Japanese speaking environment.


haha, I know that the TOEFL is the English test. I just thought that Hanazawa Rui might have written TOEFL by mistake as I assumed that she is American and doesn't need to do the TOEFL. That's why I asked her if she reallymeant the TOEFL (which didn't make sense to take as I thought she were American) or if she meant the Japanese test. But thanks anyway for the explanation. I didn't wrote the Japanese test's name coz I could only remember the profiency test part. Couldn't remember the whole name. That test is really freaking difficult (Took a look in my JLPT prepartion book level 2 and 1 yesterday and got scared by all the things I don't know)

Btw. there is always the possibility to go to Japan as an English teacher, but there are also programs in which you are able to work in a Japanese city hall. However you have to have passed the JLPT level 1. One of my classmates from university joined that program and he really likes it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:30 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

KaoruKamiya, I don't know what major or which classes you have taken when you were there, but I can say that I know many Japanese university students who go to the major national universities (the competative ones) who are constantly working on one project or another as they were already in the work force. I can certainly say with my own experience that is is not some walk in the park, maybe it is at some undergraduate unversity levels, or what major you are doing. So depends on the person, not to mention if someone doesn't understand Japanese language at a high proficiency to begin with (not just speaking but writing papers), then we'll you'll find it a bazillion times harder, then attending a University in your home country or an english speaking university.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Japanese STUDENTS PLZ REPLY-- School & College   Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Hanazawa Rui wrote:
Hello
Im a high skool student and next year iz ma last year .... and 4 UNI i wana study abroad (JAPAN) .... when i told my parents i wana study there they were like -- 1week N ur gona get kicked out ..but my average score iz 86-90%-- they say there studies R VERY HARD ... IZ IT TRUE scratch scratch scratch + R ur studies in english only or japanese only or both

I know that very person has to work hard 4 his future Smile

thnx


If I am a teacher, I will not kick you out, but I would say this....

"If you are seriously asking for advice, please write normal English.
I am not saying you have to write perfect English. Since English is not my native language either, I do many mistakes. I hope you understand what I mean.
Your English is just like Japanese high school gal's Japanese...which only they understand...which is sometimes taken on quiz shows on TV...
If you want to study only that Japanese, it's fine, but I have nothing I can't teach you."
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 1:28 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

gixo wrote:
Hanazawa Rui wrote:
thnx 4 tha replyz there good info and about the TOEFL il be taking it this year


you are going to take the Japanese TOEFL this year? Or do you mean the English test? As for the Japanese test, even level 2 is pretty hard as you have to know a lot of Kanjis. And as for level 1, it's nearly impossible. Even my coz who went to Japanese school until she was 12 and then lived in Taiwan said it was nearly impossible for her to pass it. and she is still reading Japanese books and uses it in her daily life. Someone who pass the level 1 test has to have a really good grammar knowlegde and has to know a lot of words. Haha, I have a preparation book for level 1 and 2 coz I wanted to take level 2 (I studied Japanese in university and lived some time in Japan) but after taking a look into that book I was kinda... scared. Laugh

If you are planning to study abroad I would advise you to enter a university who has a partner university in Japan and major in Japanese. Then it's not that hard to enter the partner university and live their for 1-2 years. I know it's your dream to study in Japan for all the time, but it's really not that easy to enter a university as a regular as yousei already explained. and 1-2 years is also pretty nice.


well im not scared i really wana fight 4 my dream
and as 4 the TOEFL im taking the english one

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:06 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

gixo wrote:

Btw. there is always the possibility to go to Japan as an English teacher, but there are also programs in which you are able to work in a Japanese city hall. However you have to have passed the JLPT level 1. One of my classmates from university joined that program and he really likes it.


In order to work as an English teacher in Japan, you actullay don't need any japanese skills (in many cases). For example there were some girls (with the working holiday visa) at my guesthouse who couldn't speak any Japanese but were working as English teachers.
It's the same case with the JET-Program, but you must have finished Univiersity for this one.

The JLPT level 1??? How long did your classmate study Japanese?
I mean level 2 isn't that hard, but level 1? wow
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