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Shadow Hexagram Joined: 22 May 2005 Total posts: 440 Location: Paca - France Age: 32 Gender: Male |
 Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:41 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| metmahp wrote: | | Streaming sites have bad qualities. |
Let alone the sound quality that leaves you wondering if there's a hive of wasps trapped between your motherboard and your sound card...
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melonyhappy Joined: 10 Nov 2005 Total posts: 605 Location: Canada Gender: Female |
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Kamui6Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Total posts: 775 |
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japanesegrlJoined: 07 Feb 2007 Total posts: 47 |
| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:27 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| i agree w/ you Kamui6, this ppl won't listen at all!!
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groinkLocation: Hawaii Age: 41 Gender: Male |
| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:34 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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The problem with sites like Crunchyroll is that they use uploads as a means of collateral. The more uploads they make, the more services they get, such as faster downloads, access to exclusive material, etc. The whole system's totally f*cked.
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Shadow HexagramJoined: 22 May 2005 Total posts: 440 Location: Paca - France Age: 32 Gender: Male |
| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:47 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| Kamui6 wrote: | | Ppl just like the idea of getting there hands on vids the quickest way possible... most of the times that means not having to download them. They will support the streaming site with donations but not the actual fansub group that does the work and even pays out of their pocket to procure the DVDs for the raws [which aren't cheap]. |
That sort of leechers should understand that they're taking the risk to see (actually they won't see it...) some upcoming dramas not subbed as subbers are getting more and more angry by that situation. Or at least subs will be delayed (just like what happened with Papa to Musume no Nanokakan when the former subbers found out that their work was broadcast on veoh)
p.s: another thought here. Most of us, who watch drama in our spare time, are adults, or at least just out of their teenage-hood. This means having a deeper sense of respect for the work and efforts of others, or at least to know how to read when you see bars and lines declaring "don't stream it, it's bad bad bad !!!". So, logically, participating in having them streamed is disrespectful, not smart at all but also it's partnering the actions of swindlers like crunchyroll who are taking advantage of gullible fans.
p.p.s: "free is always better" (Southern French saying)
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foxtoastJoined: 14 May 2007 Total posts: 25 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:52 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| groink wrote: | D-Addict has in the past received cease-desist notices - for movies and licensed Korean dramas. As a result, you no longer see either of them.
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Unlike animesuki, this site seems to only take down things when a legal letter is posted, no? I only ask because there are several licensed Korean dramas still on this site. If dramas grow in visibility/popularity (which I don't think is realistically a worry. At all. The segment of the English speaking population that would actually sit down and watch a foreign mini-soap with subtitles is miniscule) D-addicts might be wise to keep on top of licensing.
At any rate, it's hard to argue against streaming when that's the only way a lot of these series are available. A lot of series more than a year old (especially the Taiwanese and Korean ones) have no or one seeder. I let a six-episode bundle of The Rose run for literally more than two weeks before I gave up and went to You Tube. I've had another small bundle of a different series running since July 8. If subbers *really* don't want their subs streamed, they'd be wise to upload them to megaupload where the links don't expire and let us have access to them without being at the mercy of seeders.
(That is to say, I think *most* fans would rather torrent a series if torrents work on their computer because the quality is sooo much better and the file can be saved or burned to disk and shared. The trade off of "instant gratification" isn't worth saving a few hours for the terrible quality of streaming. In my case, though, it is worth saving multiple weeks, and for others they may not be able to use torrents and many series are not available direct-download. ...Of course, like a lot of fans my age I remember the days of sending away VHS tapes for fansubs, so torrents *are* "instant gratification" already!)
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Shadow HexagramJoined: 22 May 2005 Total posts: 440 Location: Paca - France Age: 32 Gender: Male |
| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:58 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| foxtoast wrote: | | If subbers *really* don't want their subs streamed, they'd be wise to upload them to megaupload where the links don't expire and let us have access to them without being at the mercy of seeders. |
Links do break / disappear and if you really want to complete your series quickly, you'll have to pay anyway.
p.s: aaaah my good old IRC, were art thou ?.....
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foxtoastJoined: 14 May 2007 Total posts: 25 Gender: Unknown |
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elden41Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Total posts: 426 Location: OC, CA Gender: Male |
| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:14 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| Seems like there's a new troll every day. Do not feed trolls.
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groinkLocation: Hawaii Age: 41 Gender: Male |
| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:33 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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Have a lot of you already forgotten???? The purpose of P2P is to scatter parts of a file all over the Internet so that no one server has 100-percent of the file. P2P is much like 10 guys walking across the border, each carrying a piece of a bomb. You can't bust a guy for carrying a battery or a clock. Same thing with binary files - you can't get busted for having just a piece of a video (and probably mis-ordered as well) sitting on your HD.
These pro-direct download people are trying to phase P2P off the Internet because they're so god damned lazy and impatient. If that's so, then why not just bring back SSH-based FTP and go back to the days of L33T FTP sites? Until P2P came to be, I was fine with FTP. That's why suggestions like leaving a file on something like MegaUpload is a stupid piece of advice. By doing so, you're putting both the uploader AND the owner of the server at risk of being sued. Oh, I forgot... Leechers could care less if you get busted with having movies on your server. P2P isn't 100-percent anonymous, but at least it makes it much more difficult to find 100-percent of the file sitting on your PC.
N00bs, please take a history lesson on P2P...
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nophankhJoined: 09 Jan 2007 Total posts: 231 Location: PA, US Age: 25 Gender: Female |
| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:57 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| This might be a stupid question but are uploading raw dramas onto Megaupload illegal?
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groinkLocation: Hawaii Age: 41 Gender: Male |
| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:18 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| nophankh wrote: | | This might be a stupid question but are uploading raw dramas onto Megaupload illegal? |
Of course it is illegal. RAWs were recorded off TV. In most countries, you're not allowed to distribute what you record off TV. For example, in Japan, TV show recordings are governed by Hobankyo, which allows limited distribution of TV shows within Japan and through registered rental stores outside of Japan. Only videos that reveal the Hobankyo holographic logo are legal.
Also, JASRAC (the Japan's RIAA) is aggressively removing their client's materials off sites like YouTube, and are sending cease/desist notices to Crunchyroll. I even had my YouTube account permanently suspended because of the videos I uploaded there (of which none were fanworks, BTW.)
So once again, you can't just record shows off TV in most countries and then spread it across the world via the Internet.
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narutaruJoined: 03 Aug 2005 Total posts: 110 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:28 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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I absolutely hate when people upload fan sub onto streaming sites without permission from groups.
It puts the subbers and fans at risk. I much rather spend a week waiting for an episode of a drama to finish downloading, than having the ability to watch subs takes away from me.
People who put stuff up onto youtube etc without the permission of subbing groups are all stupid selfish wankers without half a brain!
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) Nothing to say it can't be fan-aided, either. I've reuploaded old broken links for other fans to keep lists current.
OMG... "All I'm saying is that subbers can't complain about streaming when it's the only way to get a certain series" I can't believe you actually typed that... serious hope you don't really believe it.
