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FoolyDooly Joined: 08 Jun 2007 Total posts: 111 Location: PUSAN, S. Korea %or% NEW JERSEY, US Age: 19 Gender: Male |
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:27 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| Imazul wrote: | | If you really are hellbent on watching the show on your xvid player, have you ever thought about re-encoding them yourself? | People continuously ask me this, so I'll answer, yes I do.
Being an Anime fansubber, I know, however, it takes long long time to recode, however (sometimes same time, or even longer then original material being downloaded)...
I just wanted to hear this on everyone's perspective, with no intention to turning it into flamebait. If I did, I sincerely apologize now.
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groinkLocation: Hawaii Age: 41 Gender: Male |
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:24 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| FoolyDooly wrote: | | I just wanted to hear this on everyone's perspective, with no intention to turning it into flamebait. If I did, I sincerely apologize now. |
Seeing you're relatively new to D-Addicts as far as the age of your account is concerned.... Let me give you one piece of advice... And this is to EVERYONE on D-Addicts, and not just the newbies:
Whenever you bring up a topic that questions fanworks, fansubbing, raws, uploading, etc., you are considered to be a troll. By Internet definition, a person is a troll "who is deliberately initiating a topic of controversy on a forum in order to provoke a vehement response from other users." A member is labeled a troll if he shows little experience with the forum, based on a number of factors:
- Total number of posts.
- The trend of your previous posts, if you show a trend of whining or bringing up topics of controversy.
Whether or not you meant to invoke a vehement response, the theme of your topic WILL trigger these types of responses when the topic questions the content offered on D-Addicts. Most of us uploaders would prefer people to download our shows and not say anything whatsoever, or at worst a simple "thanks" for the uploads. Any more than that, most of us will interpret as dissatisfaction of the uploads.
If you're posting topics in order to change the way things are run at D-Addicts, that is also considered controversial - as most of us really don't want things to change, as most of us have the ability to adapt without question.
I have almost 30 years of experience with on-line communities. So the advice I've given here should be taken seriously.
--- groink
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:17 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| groink wrote: |
Seeing you're relatively new to D-Addicts as far as the age of your account is concerned.... Let me give you one piece of advice... And this is to EVERYONE on D-Addicts, and not just the newbies:
Whenever you bring up a topic that questions fanworks, fansubbing, raws, uploading, etc., you are considered to be a troll. By Internet definition, a person is a troll "who is deliberately initiating a topic of controversy on a forum in order to provoke a vehement response from other users." A member is labeled a troll if he shows little experience with the forum, based on a number of factors:
- Total number of posts.
- The trend of your previous posts, if you show a trend of whining or bringing up topics of controversy.
Whether or not you meant to invoke a vehement response, the theme of your topic WILL trigger these types of responses when the topic questions the content offered on D-Addicts. Most of us uploaders would prefer people to download our shows and not say anything whatsoever, or at worst a simple "thanks" for the uploads. Any more than that, most of us will interpret as dissatisfaction of the uploads.
If you're posting topics in order to change the way things are run at D-Addicts, that is also considered controversial - as most of us really don't want things to change, as most of us have the ability to adapt without question.
I have almost 30 years of experience with on-line communities. So the advice I've given here should be taken seriously.
--- groink |
Sorry since you are probably going to take this the wrong way.
What you said is completely false and highly uninformed. Most fansub group out there (and yes, I am pretty sure that applys to drama sub group as well) are more then happy to accept suggestion about their work and a little criticism
Who doesn't want things to change if the changes can make the overall product better for everyone?
Any group not willing to take a little advice from the people they are providing for are better off making their release private in any case.
Of course this applies to positive criticism, the OP wasn't positive or even criticism at all. But to label anyone who makes a thread about members of the fansubbing community as troll is wrong, very wrong.
If you seriously are taking anything more than a thanks as dissatisfaction, you have a serious problem and you should probably consult a psychologist.
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AkumaX Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Total posts: 555 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:36 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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woah whoa everyone, i think we've completely missed d-addict's message of togetherness here
we're here to glorify how good dramas are to the masses, let's just all watch some ridiculousness of hana kimi (j) or some, ne?
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groinkLocation: Hawaii Age: 41 Gender: Male |
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:55 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| Imazul wrote: | | If you seriously are taking anything more than a thanks as dissatisfaction, you have a serious problem and you should probably consult a psychologist. |
The next time I see an uploader stop uploading because, in your psyche, mis-understood the comments and is deemed "retarded", I'll remember your comments made here.
I'd rather have content uploaded with no criticism made about it than to have NO content uploaded because of the criticism made. I'm attempting to keep uploading alive, Guillaume. If you're trying to spin it the other way and forcing uploaders to "take it" with words like "retard" and claiming that we need psychiatric help because of the way we interpret these comments, you're not helping the free Asian drama movement whatsoever.
And BTW, the title of this topic includes the word "rant." That does actually mean he has a complaint.
--- groink
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ap0stat3 Joined: 09 Aug 2006 Total posts: 167 Location: Cali Gender: Unknown |
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:11 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| groink wrote: |
And BTW, the title of this topic includes the word "rant." That does actually mean he has a complaint. |
Like I said in my own personal rant above, I was not speaking about this particular case but replying at your claim that all criticism should be forbidden.
Criticism is a necessary evil, most should be ignored because they are simply troll attempt, true. But, in there, there is often positive criticism that should not be overlooked because that is what keeps a community together.
Anyway, I will not debate this any further since I thunk I made my point.
Drama fans being afraid to talk to the fansubbers or the uploaders is a ridiculous notion. But I guess it is easier to ignore everyone rather than only the idiots.
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 12:18 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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hmmm...constructive criticsm is ok and should be accepted by fansubbers. By constructive I mean giving reasons why sth could be improved. (Like subs are too small etc) However since most of the critics are often only complaints it's better to shut up as fansubbing is free. And if people are only complaining why should someone bother to continue. You know there were posts here in which someone attacked the encoding abilities of someone personally, complaining and whining about the bad quality. If someone is complaining about the quality he should at least be able to help to improve the quality. Someone who knows nothing about encoding has no right to complain. Encoding isn't really that easy. haha, I gave myself a try and my result was sooooo bad. Am really admiring all encoders for their abilites.
back to topic.
I also find it a little irritating to see so many different encoding varieties. I am not complaining as I like high quality and like anything which makes the quality/size better is great. I am also willing to buy new DVD players to enjoy a drama on TV if it's a really good drama. what I find irritating is that there are so many different varieties and after a few months new varities are coming out. I am not really a tech person. so finding new codecs and deinstalling the right ones (some codecs work against each other) is not that easy. Luckily there are codec packs however sometimes they don't have all codecs which I found out today. Now I have to find the right codec so that I can play that one file. I have the newest version of k-lite and still am not able to watch that certain file. Now I have to look for the missing codec. And I am not even sure where to start.
btw. what's the difference between mp4 and mp4 H264/X264. I am getting confused because so many files have the same ending and yet aren't the same. Just like avi could be DviX or Xvid etc.
PS: can someone recommend me a file which is encoded in mp4 H264/X264? As it seems to be the future encoding trend I want to get me the right DVD player. Wasn't that easy to find one which supports mp4, Dvix and Xvid but recently I saw a nice one. but since mp4 isn't mp4 I want to test it before buying that DVD-player. Haha, the shop assistant told me that it wouldn't be a prob to take my burned DVDs to the shop and give it a test before buying it.
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FoolyDooly Joined: 08 Jun 2007 Total posts: 111 Location: PUSAN, S. Korea %or% NEW JERSEY, US Age: 19 Gender: Male |
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:12 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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MP4 video is commonly known as AVC. It's nickname is H.264/x264. Just like MP3's Full name is MPEG 1/2 Part 3 (as I have mentioned), AVC is MPEG4 Part 10, with stronger coding. ASP (Advanced Simple Profile) is MPEG4 codec scheme part 2, which is weaker in turn, but what splitted into what we now know into DivX and XviD.
Just for the sidenote, MP4-AVC / H.264 is playable in X-Box 360 and PS3. (Or ANYTHING that supports AVI and Blu-Ray/HD-DVD for that matter)
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