Rant on Inconsistency with Uploaded material's CoDecs

I know it's very stupid of me to say. I am not ranting much. I just found it annoying that it's very inconsistent, especially with Chun-e-junjang (which the Raw material flopped codec least every 2 episode). Is material and recoding that hard to do sometimes?

Reason I'm ranting is because I'm not the only one watching drama. My parents do, too, and they watch them on dedicated DVD machine that can decode DivX and XviD, but not H264/X264.

Codecs I found used in this site for all raws:
Video-
MPEG-4 Part 2 ASP (Shoot-offs are DivX / XviD)
MPEG-4 Part 10 AVC (H264/X264)
Audio
MPEG-1/2 Layer-3 (MP3)
Dolby Digital multi-sound track (AC3)

I know some of you guys might be upset too, because some of you guys do not have recent machine that does support H264. I was in that position, too, until recently, so it's quite a tongue-biter... Don't you guys find this bit annoying?

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:08 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Personally I'd take quality over convenience every time so H.264/AC3 whenever it available... But that's me. Some encoder doesn't care about quality and other does, some take their time other wants to release fast. There's nothing we can do here than thank them for their time and be hopeful that this kind of rant doesn't tick them off.

You can alway re encode in any format you find convenient, you.ll find that there's a lot of tutorial on the web.

And yes, this was very stupid thing for you to write (as it is for me to write a response in a way).

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^You know that most of what gets upped here isn't recorded by the people who share it here, right? Most of the uploaders at D-Addicts are merely middle men who distribute what someone else recorded (not necessarily the same people every time) to the other leechers here.

A few words of wisdom to people who can only complain:
You are getting your dramas for FREE. The least you can do is keep your mouth shut and try and make things work on your end.

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:25 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

priority goes to compatibility with teh PC. Playing on your set top box is just an added bonus. Just reencode them to xvid or mpeg2 then your good to go.

Although not cheap, there are media player that can play x264, which plugs directly into your TV. Think HDD enclosure + TV. AFAIK tivx is the only one that currently has this, but not cheap.

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:35 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:37 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

You young folks with you fancy MPEG-4 and AC3 codecs. Back in my days, we had to live with Cinepak and PCM.

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:01 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Like one of the others mentioned earlier...

Just about all the RAWs you see here on D-Addicts was originally ripped by someone else. I'm not sure about South Korea, but in Japan x264 is advancing rapidly. Most Japanese who use the RAWs are technically savvy - while their parents can actually watch the shows off broadcast TV. And x264 is used throughout Japan - especially in anime and Jpop. Seriously, the RAWs were meant to be uploaded and consumed within Japan. They were never meant to be uploaded to D-Addicts and then subbed. Once a RAW leaves the country of origin, the more diverse the technology of the player and the savvyness of the viewers.

There's really no nice way of explaining this... You must realize that technology is advancing each and every year. And when you purchase computers and other electronic appliances, the expectation is that you WILL replace them at least every two years. You basically have three choices here. 1 ) you make the investment. 2 ) you deal with it somehow like re-ripping. 3) do something else like watching TV in your homeland.

Watching entertainment is purely by choice. If you're not going to take the time and investment in the process of being entertained, then simply you don't deserve to enjoy the content being delivered to you.

--- groink

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:23 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Seems to me that lately many new comers rant very much, am I wrong here?

I can guess that they aren't that much technology-wise and speak up what they have in mind without proper thinking.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:44 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

If all you want is RAWs that will play on a DVD player then buy the darn DVDs.
Those should be consistent as they are done by the same people and are designed to work in the DVD player.
However, since you are being cheap, stop complaining. Go download SUPER or something and YOU spend the hours it takes to re-encode things.

And personally as an encoder. I love the H254 codec. It makes things nice and small, which is easier to deal with. I won't change this until there is something better. I'm sure most encoders who care about encoding feel the same way.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:44 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Fact: As previously mentioned, most uploaders are "middle men" and do not encode.

People like you really get me fired up. Cussing

Who forced you to download and watch anything uploaded here on D-Addicts anyways? Who's problem is it that your parents are too cheap to buy an upgraded system? Are you paying uploaders any money for the time and electricity spent uploading?

We are always told in school that there's no such thing as a stupid question. Those instructors are idiots for saying that and are only looking for class participation. I've heard many DUMB questions in my time, and yes, your question was stupid.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:35 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

1) Actually, I was planning to donate. Roll Eyes

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2) I'm not just talking about being unable to watch it on DVD player nor I was ranting about quality. The Codecs make huge difference if your computer does not meet the PC requirement. Sure, my PC meets it, and I like H264 too, but it limits the audience. And that's my opinion.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:38 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:59 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

joining in late:

x264 is the future. even HD-DVD and Bluray is using it. i know that divx/xvid is convenient (i have multiple divx dvd players within friends and family, and still do encode stuff in divx for such purposes), but x264's quality is much better (deblocking, filtering, etc...) and provides a smaller file size. the only downside to is that now you're going to need a semi-decent computer to play them nowadays.

i think in the future, we'll start seeing dedicated x264 decoders on set top boxes for our tvs. having x264 on my psp is also very convenient, since i am very limited in the filesize.

as an uploader:

we're sorry that you've had many troubles in solving your codec issues. we're trying to minimize variances in video codecs. it was a bit rocky the first couple of times, but now and we have a process that has been working (so far). however, in our case, we have crappy real media files as our raws. we could preserve the (abysmal) quality of these real media video files with xvid, but it would usually involve about a 50% file size increase. using x264 in our case cuts down not only space, but uploading time also. not all of us have super-OC10 connections and terabyte hard drive space.

fansubs are FREE! we're doing our best to appease the masses, but at the same time, come up with a process for all steps in the fansubbing process that is (hopefully) accommodating for all.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:13 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

--First--
Saying that you should not complain because something is free is retarded. Even if a service is provided for free, complaints and suggestions should be heard and welcome to make the service even better. If you are not happy with people giving critics on your work, then stop doing it or distributing it.

--Second--
The complaint he made was not even close to being constructive though. Codecs have always been a pain but everyone learned to deal with it. And who in their right mind who would inferior image quality? x264 is one of the best codec quality/size wise currently out and I seriously hope uploaders will all migrate to that particular format.

If you really are hellbent on watching the show on your xvid player, have you ever thought about re-encoding them yourself?