Devil/Mawang (KBS2, 2007)

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:10 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

where are the subtitles T T

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:24 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:48 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

-SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT FROM WITHS2-

Since everyone is confused.. let me try to explain the situation abit regarding the ENGLISH SUBS. This will be one LONG post.. to be honest.. usually I don't like to "rant" about these things.. but in this situation.. I feel that it's only fair to let everyone knows the situation and the stress & frustrations that WITH S2 has been through.

I truly hope after reading this particular post, those people who are about to write something negative will stop & think twice before doing so... and that the wonderful fans of "DEVIL" will faithfully continue with us on this journey and offer us their full supports. With that said.. let me begin..

As we have announced earlier.. a Korean independent subber.. Aramis ( MAR) had wanted to sub this series on her own.. and after seeing the great quality of her work & consistent releases through her cb.. WITH S2 has decided at the time to let her take over the drama from episode 5 & on to 1) avoid double work on this particular series and 2) so that we take on more new series. Like we stated at the time, with this decision..this project is mainly ARAMIS's project from episode 5 and WITH S2 will just be BACK UP.

Please understand that once a project is out of our hands.. we have LITTLE CONTROL over the speed of the releases since once ARAMIS took over, it's HER project and WITH S2 can only step in IF/ WHEN when ARAMIS informs us that she can't handle the project anymore. Even though we try to check in with her often, as fansubbers, we also know that DEVIL is a difficult project and that we need to give her enough space to work on the project without giving her additional pressures.

The locking at the thread in D-ADDICTS is to prevent any unnecessary trouble as at the time, we were still in the process of waiting for ARAMIS to release the newest subs and as any fansubbers know.. such negativity does not help the issue and usually.. it just affects fansubbers' motivation & efforts.

To be honest, WITH S2 has every intention to jump in and finish off this project IF/ WHEN ARAMIS decides to drop it.. we have made that intention known at the time when we decided to pass over this project. When the subs didn't move along as well as we had hoped.. like every other fan.. we can only send Aramis our continuous support and the offer to let us know whenever she needs back up as we understand how difficult & energy draining this series is.

The rude comments at d-addicts NOT only made the situation w/ ARAMIS worse .. it definitely affected WITH S2's back up route.

Actually, since the middle of May.. WITH S2 has been silently recruiting our own translators and are fully prepared to take over this drama again .. We were just awaiting ARAMIS's confirmation before we can continue.

If the "wait" was unbearable for the impatient "fans".. it was a more difficult & stressful period for us as well.. Out of respect to Aramis and as a basic courtesy.. we cannot just go ahead and claim back the drama because we are not happy with the release speed. There are "silent" codes of conducts & fansubber's ethics that we need to follow in the fansubbing world.

Proper arrangements need to be made and we need to have to have Aramis's FULL consent before doing so. Due to the nature of the drama, we have decided to only have KOREAN translators work on this series to avoid any "lost in translations" , and as the series already finished airing and the dark theme.. it wasn't an easy process to convince our active korean translators to consider this drama... and the rude comments at d-addicts totally deterred some of our translators who were interested in the beginning. As we all know.. Devil is NOT a series where anyone can just jump in and translates.. one needs to follow it closely because it can be very confusing.. hence our translators have to really download the drama and watches every single episode before they can start work on this series.. with the huge list of attractive current dramas.. that's alot to ask to some of the Korean translators who are not watching DEVIL... so locking the thread at d-addicts is a solution at the time for us because we NEED to 1) prevent more unnecessay rude comments and 2) to do damage control with both Aramis & our back up korean translators.

As to why the thread was DELETED at d-addicts previously.. as ay_link mentioned before.. We have NEVER asked for the thread to be DELETED and are quite confused ourselves.. the admin / mod team here at d-addicts have explained that it was a glitch in the system- so we can only accept that it's an unfortunate accident.

We want to make another announcement while we're at it.. We have just heard from ARAMIS.. AND SHE HAS DECIDED TO DROP THIS DRAMA. WITH S2 is thankful for Aramis's help for episode 5 & 6 and hopefully we will have a chance to work with her on a future project. Also, with this final confirmation from ARAMIS.. WITH S2 WILL PICK UP THIS DRAMA AGAIN FROM EPISODE 7- 20.

Once again, WITH S2 will continue to sub this drama from episode 7 until the end. Due to our current busy schedule and the difficult level of this drama.. it will be our "SIDE" project and might move at a slower speed .. To speed up the process.. we might consider using some parts of the KBS's translations to back up our korean translators. as many have suggested.. Please rest assure.. it's our policy to finish each drama that we started.. and we are 100% sure that we will finish off this project.

From this point on, we feel that we won't need to make any more announcement.. please continue to support Devil & WITH S2. Please refrain from making complaints/ rude comments as that will only slow down the subbing process and cause us unnecessary stress & pressure. This final announcement regarding the status of the project should be enough to assure everyone that we will do our best to finish off this project.

PS: Here's the new devil subs thread- ep 7 has been released Smile

http://www.d-addicts.com/forum/viewtopic_49758.htm

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:44 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:17 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Thank you so much for this post mily2. It's good to know what is going on.

Wub

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:29 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Sending parcels from convenience stores is a big part of the drama's plot. As far as I can understand it, most convenience stores in South Korea (or maybe just in Seoul?) offer this service by which you can send a parcel (presumably just in town) by courier. Am I right in supposing so?

Sorry if it seems a stupid question! pale

It's just that it took me a few episodes to figure it out sweating

because where I live usually you can only mail parcels from the post office or through an expedition company.

I've watched until ep 13 now, and

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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:37 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Yaayyy!!! You can count me in cheers

Didn't expected it but I'm totally crazy over Mawang.. I'm not such a fan of thriller/mystery, but ... yes, I admit it, I'll gave it a try because of JJH Wub

Even so I thought, he wasn't that handsome in Goong but I liked his acting a lot and now in Mawang... Blink

he really does his best there. And he look better than in Goong..
I heard, that he lost weight because of this drama, too.. and it fits his part very well, now with this much more sharp face.. it totally shows this 'cold' heart with these "cruel inhuman smiles"

And Hae Ins Part was choosen well, too. I like the chemistry between her and JJH. And yes, when he think about her or look at her... these eyes..*I'm melting* It's like.. you already know, what he's done and you know, that it's not good... but you don't care.. at least I don't care - every time he shows this face to her..

But the detective..well, at first I'm not a big fan of him *because of Delightful Girl, too Whistling

* but I warmed up with him in Mawang. But in one of the former episodes it really annoyed me to see his teary, drunken face, when he was with Hae In. but I'm happy, she only sees him as a friend...

Ah, the parcel- thing I recognized it too, Liantasse Smile

And it took me some episode,too Whistling

I lived at the countryside before moving to town and in our village you could bring your parcels to the store...well it was only a little village with one store..

Ah, and with these phonecalls, I think you should know it after watching ep. 14 ^-^ or perhaps you'll know at least, why the truckdriver was 'choosen'

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:08 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Same here about your comments on his looks and acting. I thought so too that he looked better in Mawang. I agree as well of him and the lead girl having a good chemistry. Gotta say that they picked the right actress to portray the psychometrist.

Speaking of the two, some scenes here on this picture clip (mv) made by a fan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0GIwGiH4IQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-0P1mjI7wk

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:29 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Oh dear, I really didn't expect

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Who else bawled their eyes out at the scene between

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I'm sure there was loads more I wanted to say, but this HOTTTTT flamed

weather we're having now has reduced my neurons to a blank stupor... Neutral

I hope some of them are still left alive until about a month from now, when I'll be back home and hopefully able to enjoy the rest of this great series!!! Oh, wait, did I say enjoy? More like cry / faint / sit on the edge of my chair / etc! But of course, also, really enjoy it!! Wub

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:08 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 6:27 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

noooo

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:20 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Is this kdrama really worth the try ? cause i've only watch the 2 first episodes and the storylines, plots & twists seems to be easy to guess. am i wrong ?

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:47 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Mmmhhh on one hand you're maybe right, it was easy guess who is who and so on, but on the other hand I think you'll have a lot dramas where you can guess what's gonna happen after the first few episodes scratch

But there are quit some interesting turns additional points that you don't expect!

A lot of people said it's similar to Resurrection.... haven't watched it til now *and probably gonna see it at all ^-^*

I grew more and more to this drama with every episode.. and the reason for that is definitely NOT Jo Ji Hoon ^-^

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:14 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Ok, I finally got around to watching the first episode and I need to ask you knowledgeable k-drama fans here: Does it get any better? Because despite the murder mystery and psychometry subject, it isn't holding my interest. There just seems to be something missing...something which Resurrection had going for it. Something that clings on to you and won't let go.

I also agree with tourette that the story seems to be very predictable. Who knows, maybe I'm wrong as well, but I might not last long enough to find out.

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:05 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

this is definitely one of those "must see" dramas =)