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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 9:13 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Argh..episode 6 makes me want to watch epi 7 badly..

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No..why there's only like 3 minutes of Matsuda??? I wonder why he's running like that. Must be that officer of Liar Game told him something about Nao-chan. And somebody has to kill that mushroom guy already. He pissed me a lot


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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 9:19 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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Argh..episode 6 makes me want to watch epi 7 badly..

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No..why there's only like 3 minutes of Matsuda??? I wonder why he's running like that. Must be that officer of Liar Game told him something about Nao-chan. And somebody has to kill that mushroom guy already. He pissed me a lot



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I didn't like the lack of Shota as well. It made the show seem so long because you barely saw him. The mushroom guy is ssoooo annoying. What Ireally want is for Nao to become smart on her own and defeat him. But thats not likely to happen.

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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 9:38 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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After hearing the cop tell Shota that his revenge was ineffective, I thought the game was definately made to a game one on one with the creator and Shota. It is possible that the creator was a minion in the company using it as a means to torment others as a form of entertainment, a bit like a sports league owner. Maybe the creator was like Nao and had specially chosen her to be paired with Shota so that she will help him live a life without seeking revenge and Shota show Nao how to be realistic about others. Which leads me to think of whom might be the creator of the game...the cop, the lady representive, Nao's father, Shota's mother's nurse, a player in the game, or someone we haven't met. It's usually some far relations that we didn't see coming.
I love this series and as you can see I usually start thinking about wierd connections and the overall game after I finish watching an episode. I really wonder how they are going to end this if that and how the manga writer intend to develop the characters beyond just the Liar Game. I really wish I could buy the mangas and read them in english...Ok I'm done rambling.....


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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 9:50 pm    Post subject: liarg game ep 6   Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

i think he got a call from the vote counting chick
i wonder if they thought of buying votes from the lgs
if she were to use her m tickets to buy from lgs all the votes cast for mushroom head and 2 of the votes cast for everyone else for the rest of the game she would win in the 4th vote and no one would catch her and shroom brain would be out 200 million
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 12:21 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I wish she could get some smarts all on her own too

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However if I was mushroom head guy, I would want Nao in the game. He's thinking short term "I gotta get me in the game". What he should be thinking of is the last round - he should try and illiminate the smartest people first so the game gets easier and easier. I guess he thinks he's the smartest person there so it doesn't matter. But if I was him I'd have Nao there as my little lap dog - you know she'd be loyal to the end.


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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 12:30 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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I wish she could get some smarts all on her own too

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However if I was mushroom head guy, I would want Nao in the game. He's thinking short term "I gotta get me in the game". What he should be thinking of is the last round - he should try and illiminate the smartest people first so the game gets easier and easier. I guess he thinks he's the smartest person there so it doesn't matter. But if I was him I'd have Nao there as my little lap dog - you know she'd be loyal to the end.



That's so true. You would remain loyal until the end and she wouldn't try to trick anyone. She's not smart enough anyway to trick someone.

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But mushroom head is no dummy. He's smart. He maybe thinking that if Nao does succeed then Akiyama may become more involved and very serious because he has to pretect Nao again. he never thought that Akiyama would appear to protect Nao.

I wonder who it was that called and informed him. Was it the LGT lady or someone else. I'm starting to feel really bad for Nao and not just ebcause she's slow. Mainly because she was only dragged into the game so they can lure Akiyama in. Now she has to play and if she loses she will face a debt. That will be real hard seeing as how her dad is inthe hospital.



But if I had someone like Akiyama always helping me, I might play dumb too. pinch. Maybe.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 12:45 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

GoddessCarlie wrote:
I wish she could get some smarts all on her own too

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However if I was mushroom head guy, I would want Nao in the game. He's thinking short term "I gotta get me in the game". What he should be thinking of is the last round - he should try and illiminate the smartest people first so the game gets easier and easier. I guess he thinks he's the smartest person there so it doesn't matter. But if I was him I'd have Nao there as my little lap dog - you know she'd be loyal to the end.



He can't do that. Because in the next round Akiyama would be there again. Nao would definately listens to Akiyama more.

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If it's not for Nao's existance.... mushroom head would definately not survive this round. He needed a sacrifice, and Nao is the easiest to manipulate (esp since everyone else would never forgive him). In any case, he knows the smartest person in the game (Akiyama) is not IN this game.



I think most of us will be happy when we see the next episode because
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Nao finally does something useful....

In fact... We will only need to see half an episode more of total Nao ownage... probably. In the manga, episode 7 material is kind of like a turning point for her character. After that, she stopped making me so angry.



I agree with everyone about Mushroom head. He is a very hatable character, whether his drama self or the manga counterpart. (I remember feeling the urge to slash my monitor up back when the material in episode 6 first appear in manga early last year).

Though seriously, I think I have more reason to hate him than anyone else here. I had to listen to his annoying laughter repeatedly (like 10 times and up) while I sub. Goggle eyes I almost went mad.

And before another person asks again: The manga is not avaliable in English. If you want to read it. Go buy the Japan or Hong Kong version from comic book stores or yesasia or something.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 12:55 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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GoddessCarlie wrote:
I wish she could get some smarts all on her own too

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However if I was mushroom head guy, I would want Nao in the game. He's thinking short term "I gotta get me in the game". What he should be thinking of is the last round - he should try and illiminate the smartest people first so the game gets easier and easier. I guess he thinks he's the smartest person there so it doesn't matter. But if I was him I'd have Nao there as my little lap dog - you know she'd be loyal to the end.



He can't do that. Because in the next round Akiyama would be there again. Nao would definately listens to Akiyama more.

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If it's not for Nao's existance.... mushroom head would definately not survive this round. He needed a sacrifice, and Nao is the easiest to manipulate (esp since everyone else would never forgive him). In any case, he knows the smartest person in the game (Akiyama) is not IN this game.



I think most of us will be happy when we see the next episode because
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Nao finally does something useful....

In fact... We will only need to see half an episode more of total Nao ownage... probably. In the manga, episode 7 material is kind of like a turning point for her character. After that, she stopped making me so angry.



I agree with everyone about Mushroom head. He is a very hatable character, whether his drama self or the manga counterpart. (I remember feeling the urge to slash my monitor up back when the material in episode 6 first appear in manga early last year).

Though seriously, I think I have more reason to hate him than anyone else here. I had to listen to his annoying laughter repeatedly (like 10 times and up) while I sub. Goggle eyes I almost went mad.

And before another person asks again: The manga is not avaliable in English. If you want to read it. Go buy the Japan or Hong Kong version from comic book stores or yesasia or something.


lol. You do have a reason to hate him more. That laugh is nerve recking.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 12:57 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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To be honest my one gripe with Nao is that she is quick to jump to a conclusion. Like when that old teacher tricked her out of her money, she thought there was no way to get that money back. Of course anyone would feel burdened if that happened, but wouldn't you try to do something about it right away? Didn't the LGT say that you could use any means to get your opponet's money? Even if you trust a person...when it comes to huge sums of money, there's nothing wrong with being cautious right?

Then there was round two and that question #17 posed: "Are you a woman?" There's the fact that there were only 9 girls and 13 men. She was quick think that right away ladies would win because they were the minority, but didn't see that yes the guys have noticed the same thing. Also that the other women could guess that the men knew this and chances is are, some of them would vote "yes". With that said, it was probably better for them to vote "no."


Money can change people and Nao must wise up and take a good look at her current situation. While she's at it, she oughta whack that mushroom dude in his face with her bag because he plainly derserves it for beging such a jerk.

What's with the small about of Akiyama in ep. 6?? I think it was that secreteriat woman who called him. From the way she talked when Akiyama got the 2.1 bil, did they have some sort of relation in the past? Why was she looking at him and Nao from the windowright before they got into that car leaving that mansion? Does anyone else feel a bit odd looking at that puppet guy, Leronira talk?

Excuse me for my blabbering of nonsense!

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I actually find Liar Game more painstaking than suspenseful. In fact, it hasn't created any suspense so far, just a lot of long-drawn out, brain-numbing explanations, weird, over the top characters, bad acting by the co-actors, and overwhelming camera angles/editing tricks. The only thing keeping me in the game is Akiyama's coolness and my loyalty to Toda Erika.

Ep.5 was only 36 minutes long and yet it felt SO long-winded! I was watching the progress bar and almost groaning because it wasn't ending yet... I was practically gripped with horror that Nao would turn all goody-goody and foolishly kind when she started sympathizing with the other losers.


Oh God, I will be honest like Nao and say that people like you, and posts like this post you made, annoy the hell out of me. Crazy
Painstaking? Oh please, this drama is going at a very fast rate compared to MOST if not all japanese dramas out there (except the ancient ones - i dont watch those). I can't possibly see how one could say this is so long and boring. Yes there's some explanation here and there. But oh for the sake of people who are not as "smart" as you, can you please just let them explain the tricks as how they are doing it now? Because I don't think it's too long or too repetitive. In fact, even though I could guess how the plan is going, I still enjoy very much all the explanation because the acting is pretty funny (mushroom guy).
So yes please "the few people" who complain they "can guess almost everything that is going on", or "the explanation is so long omg i can't stand it i just wish it'd end already", do us a favor and stop watchin the show, or stop showing off in here because you are just simply very annoying.
There's a reason why a lot of people vote for this show as their favorite, so if u really wish it'd end already while watching it, then turn off ur computer and do something else that makes u more happy Glare

Anyway I am officially a Nao hater after this ep. Crying She's just so...I would smack her face if I were there lol pale
But I'm thinkin of a plan that 'd make her the controller of the game like the guy said...hmm...(or maybe those "smart" people who think they can guess everything that happens in this movie can enlighten me with some ideas?)

And to the person who said she could buy votes from people, well I don't think that'd work. All the other competitors already made a contract with each other that they'd vote for a certain person (they wrote it on the M ticket). So if they back out now, they'd be in debt. I believe that guy explained that to her.
Either that or I misread the subs? Please excuse me if I did misinterpret it :d
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Ha! gemtsoi: I had that same fear - "Oh no, she's not going to give away her share is she???"

Isn't it strange that someone so nice and kind and honest, is so irritating to watch. This is why, my friends, you must never write a story with a "flawless" heroine! If she doesn't change by the end of this show, I think I may have to delete the show and empty the recycling bin (the closest I can get to throwing the show across the room).

(funny thing is, on my site, I have a poll going for favourite show and liar game is winning... Another funny thing, I keep watching... but I know it's only for akiyama.)


hey... can i copy that poll site of yours to show my friends in another forum? im also curious of the outcome. lolz... i voted for liar game, not coz of nao or shota... its the whole story that made me interested... Smile


Hey, it's fine to link it! What's the other forum? (drama related?)

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If it's not for Nao's existance.... mushroom head would definately not survive this round. He needed a sacrifice, and Nao is the easiest to manipulate (esp since everyone else would never forgive him). In any case, he knows the smartest person in the game (Akiyama) is not IN this game.




I thought that after I posted.

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Cause it is true that everyone in this round are stupid and pathetic as well, so it doesn't really matter.


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Hey, it's fine to link it! What's the other forum? (drama related?)



oh, nope its not... its a filipino forum.. but the people there watch different types of series... so they know about liar game.

every since i read other people's comments on episode 6, it made me want to wait for episode 7 instead... lolz... im gonna put off watching episode 6 until episode 7 comes up.
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Has anyone of you been thinking about how on earth this round can turn around? I mean, the contracts have been made, and now i've become really curious about akiyamas plan in the preview... o.o (Except the manga readers of course, who already know..)

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Just watched 6
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So I was thinking that the puppet (who I know everyone says looks like the one is SAW) also looks like the puppet in a movie called "The Game" with Michael Douglas.

Now that I think of it there are some other similarities. For those unfamiliar witht he movie. M/ Douglas's character gets enrolled in this huge game (semi- unwillingly) that is apparently organized by this anonymous company. Apparently he witnesses his father jumping off the roof of their mansion as a child. Scarred from this event MD is apparent financialy successfull but has an inability to connect with people. During his game, mysterious comapny predicts his actions and reactions to events they engineer and manipulate him into facing his childhood tradegy.

Am I the only one that sees the similarities or ahem posible similarities? ... ok maybe only the puppet is similar

Ah whatever.... ;)

Ok in other thoughts...
1) I would like to think I have more brains the Nao but I think if I were in the same situations I would be lost as to how to play to win too.

2) Yep mushroom head is annoying -- lets hope they kill him off and they bring in someone who is still clever but doesn't remind me of The Revenge of The Nerds. Just looking at him irritates me.

3) There definetely needs to be more Shota but I hope they dress him a little better. I kept thinking before that he must be hot wearing that jacket all the time... even indoors... zipped up to his chin...




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I am hoping that some random useless thing that Nao brought with her saves the day and gets sold in exchange for the M Ticket/ contract things that mushroom head guy has. I mean it must suck to be foiled by a smart guy but musrhoom head would just die (at least we can hope) if he is bested by Nao.

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