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CawaiiBoRa Joined: 11 Feb 2007 Total posts: 3 Gender: Female |
 Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:16 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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First And Foremost, I would like to compliment Sung Yuri for being so "ichiban" in this drama despite all the criticsm when she was chosen as the female lead...and frankly,she did improved very much since Prince's First Love..so please support her to help improve more other than saying things like "there goes the potential in this drama"...Aza Aza Fighting!!
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teodyJoined: 03 Jan 2007 Total posts: 1 Location: Philippines Age: 29 Gender: Female |
| Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:13 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| blueshieldqueens wrote: | | teody wrote: | | blueshieldqueens wrote: | | LemonDrive wrote: | It's the second time I've seen the female end up like that, and it frickin' HURTS!! X_X
I don't know about you guys but this kind of story lingers in my memory whenever I'm alone or sleeping...So I kind of feel sad every other time and then I ask myself "Why did I ever watch it?" but I'm grateful that I saw another great Drama. Although I remember it really sad.. *sigh*
btw, anyone watched A Moment to Remember? It's a movie where a carpenter(construction worker) meets a really rich president's daughter who have an inherited disease.. It really blows. T_T |
I did , Mandy Moore. I like that movie too. Snow Queen is similar to it. That guy became successully after Mandy died too. Both movies are sad, but I root more for Snow Queen because of Sung Yu Ri  |
i think those are two very good but different movies. a walk to remember was with mandy moore and shayne west? i'm not sure. it was really good. i so particularly liked the guys effort to fulfill mandy's wish list. talk about really over the top romantic gestures like naming a star officially in her name. sad to say mandy dies of leukemia.
a moment to remember was with this guy from daisy (the movie) and the girl from my tutor friend. it was kinda sweet also. she has this early onset alzheimer's disease. so the title kinda fits because she has memory losses. it was kinda poignant when her guy had post its all over so that she won't forget. and when she was really sick, he recreated the scenario where they first meet. this really made me cry buckets.
howell, wherever this korean fascination with lover's and sickness comes, i'm not sure. but they're good dramas.well researched, quite believable. i love movies with this theme like a miillionaires first love, even japanese taiyo no uta is also good.
i've also watched stairway to heaven, and the autumn thing-series, where the female lead also dies of some disease.
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hahha My bad, sorry  , yep A moment to remember starring Son Je Jin (not sure spelling right) .I watched that one too . Coz I saw LemonDrive's post I thought about A walk to remember right away.... maybe the storyline. The girls died b/c of caner and the guys became successfully after that .But Mandy 's character was more nicer than Bo Ra and Shane was like a player before meeting Mandy.  Actually I don't like Autumn thing series much except for Summer scent even people said it was bad. I don't like sad series , SQ just special b/c having SYR and I watch any series that have Sung in it. |
i'm not also into sad movies, however there are just some thngs you can't avoid.  Shayne was the best reformed rake ever, that's why it was so romantic. Bo Ra was quite the ****, though I still have to complete the series. Haven't gotten to the better part yet or wherever she redeems herelf. Looking forward to it. Although its HB who primarily draws me to watch SQ. Isn't he the best Korean drama actor ever? I don't know how that small chinky eyes can convey so much sadness...
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blueshieldqueensJoined: 07 Feb 2007 Total posts: 10 Location: USA Gender: Female |
| Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:17 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| teody wrote: |
i'm not also into sad movies, however there are just some thngs you can't avoid. Shayne was the best reformed rake ever, that's why it was so romantic. Bo Ra was quite the ****, though I still have to complete the series. Haven't gotten to the better part yet or wherever she redeems herelf. Looking forward to it. Although its HB who primarily draws me to watch SQ. Isn't he the best Korean drama actor ever? I don't know how that small chinky eyes can convey so much sadness... |
Yeah .me too, I like to see comedy or action. But this one has Yu Ri, Hyun Bin, and the doctor (don't know his name but saw him in Love to Kill ), so it's a plus. I agree Bo ra was such a brat , but she had her sorrow and sadness and she changed after loving TW, like Shane . One thing I don't like about HB's character , he cried too much. Well sometimes you need to cry to relieve your hurt, but crying too much for a man made him weakly. Anyway I like both guys but I root more for the doctor and Bo Ra. I really enjoy this drama 
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teodyJoined: 03 Jan 2007 Total posts: 1 Location: Philippines Age: 29 Gender: Female |
| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:54 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| blueshieldqueens wrote: | | teody wrote: |
i'm not also into sad movies, however there are just some thngs you can't avoid. Shayne was the best reformed rake ever, that's why it was so romantic. Bo Ra was quite the ****, though I still have to complete the series. Haven't gotten to the better part yet or wherever she redeems herelf. Looking forward to it. Although its HB who primarily draws me to watch SQ. Isn't he the best Korean drama actor ever? I don't know how that small chinky eyes can convey so much sadness... |
Yeah .me too, I like to see comedy or action. But this one has Yu Ri, Hyun Bin, and the doctor (don't know his name but saw him in Love to Kill ), so it's a plus. I agree Bo ra was such a brat , but she had her sorrow and sadness and she changed after loving TW, like Shane . One thing I don't like about HB's character , he cried too much. Well sometimes you need to cry to relieve your hurt, but crying too much for a man made him weakly. Anyway I like both guys but I root more for the doctor and Bo Ra. I really enjoy this drama |
come to think of it... HB is a cry baby with series. although he's so good that he gets away with it. i think few people can cry that much and still look manly (no gay overtones here). i have the series already though i've yet to watch it. from what i've seen the doctor's really good also. a bit of reverse pyschology is good. not too obvious. also, the attitude's quite realistic. he's so darn cute!
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gummonsterJoined: 14 Apr 2006 Total posts: 341 Location: USA Gender: Female |
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hikaru181262Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Total posts: 65 Gender: Unknown |
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orange_range88Joined: 21 Jun 2007 Total posts: 4 Location: Malaysian Age: 21 Gender: Female |
| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:53 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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YuRi is a great actress I think!!
I love her in One Fine Day and Snow Queen!!
Why everybody dislike her??
Snow Queen is good...Hyun Bin just ok..But it takes two tango to make this drama goes well right??
Yu Ri and Hyun Bin make a great couple...No doubt Yu Ri is the best choice to lead this drama...
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gulaJoined: 20 Jul 2007 Total posts: 2 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:30 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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Wow was it shot in NZ? I want to return to Kiwi, I miss it.
Anyway on topic: what happened to the snow queen torrents? does anyone know? All of the sudden they're not there anymore....
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roflmaoJoined: 18 Aug 2007 Total posts: 5 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 3:42 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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this may seem dumb, but i cant find the link to download the series not just the subs
i cant download from clubbox or rapidshare or megaupload btw
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littledraciJoined: 07 Oct 2006 Total posts: 568 Location: Germany Age: 26 Gender: Female |
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exgeJoined: 28 Dec 2006 Total posts: 3 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:33 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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its ok, i found a new source lol
also has alot of other dramas which i will download if i can even get anything from megaupload
http://idols-unlimited.com/the-snow-queen
btw : i am roflmao ... i created him when i 4got my password
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bellezaJoined: 21 Jan 2007 Total posts: 725 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:14 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| Quote: | | I read in another topic that there are a lot of people, who don't like Sung Yuri...what a pitty... I started to like her in Prince's first Love and I think she isn't that bad as an actress..well not the best but one of the better ones. |
Yeah, in a writer/producer poll evaluating singers-turned-actors at end of 2006, Sung Yuri was voted the worst actress, beating out ex-Finkl mate Lee Hyori. Worse than Hyori? Now that's just cold. ;) Rain and Jeong Ryu-Won of KSS ranked were voted best actors/actress respectively.
Criticisms of her acting has followed her pretty much her entire career. The netizen community apparently has been harsh to her, and I think it hurt her. Korean celebrities tend to be vulnerable with their fans in a way American celebs aren't. She's not a great actress, and perhaps playing off studs like Hyun Bin, Gong Yoo, Kim Nam Jin, and So Ji Sup, hasn't endeared her with the female community. But, she's watchable and still has that adorable shtick down. And with the Snow Queen, she delivered a good performance and put her heart into playing a mean, almost vicious human being.
The Snow Queen was written and produced by the same company of the Endless Love/Seasonal Dramas, with of course the MiSa director taking over filmmaking duties. Originally, Sung Yuri and Joong Ji-Hoon were projected to star opposite each other in the Spring Waltz seasonal drama. However, Sung Yuri's management couldn't work out the details with the production company, and Goong's extended run pulled JJH out of the project. While watching Spring Waltz with that knowledge, it was really obvious to me that the script was written with those two actors in mind.
My hunch is that Sung Yuri signed onto Snow Queen probably due to her agency making good with the production company. Had she done Spring Waltz, there may have been no Snow Queen, or that the Snow Queen would have been cast differently.
| Quote: | | And I can't go before compare these to dramas... they're quit similar,ne? |
For all intents and purposes, The Snow Queen was the "5th Endless Love" drama and something of a closing door to an era of tear-jerker melodramas, which itself was only prolonged by the pan-Asian success of Hallyu. There was no season attached attached to the Snow Queen (though fall colours i.e. Autumn Tale, prevailed), but the original story was written around the motifs of the Snow Queene fairy tale.
I loved Yoon's seasonal dramas. I know that a lot of people view the storylines as formulaic, sappy, and often silly -- and they are. But outside of the formula, I prefer the glacial pacing and elegaic tone of these stories. The emphasis on extended family and friendships dynamics and lengthy, informal dialogue. The way the music and the eye candy quietly seeps into the work. And, above all, the stories really embrace the melodrama form and sacrifices realism for the sake of symbolic characters, while at the same time grounding interaction in daily life.
The Snow Queen works on that level, and then puts a unique twist in the melodrama. In this story, the main female character is mean, nasty, and even vicious human being, not merely from circumstances but an innate nature. She was born a ****. In contrast, the male character, the prodigal son, lives like a suffering saint.
The Snow Queen ends up being a role reversal of the classic melodrama. In this story, the hero is not the guy, but the girl. And she is effectively the anti-hero, as arrogant and flawed, fearless and passionate as a classic male protogonist. A person whose vicious heart is turned warm and good by the "saintly" soul, and then realizes that the saint himself is the one who's truly trapped, the one who's truly beset by demons. Hyun Bin essentially plays the captive, fallen, "passive" female role. The one who waits patiently, who seems so deeply affected by the love around him.
This changes the meaning of the story. It doesn't become how love enables them to forgive each other or to recognize their destiny together. That is the usual female fantasy with melodrama. Instead, it becomes about whether she can save him, about how fiercely and steadfastly she must love to unravel the buried past and right the people around her. It's about how far she must go, emotionally and spiritually, in order to save him before it's too late. The Snow Queen and Gerda are one.
The sensibility is Christian. If she must become his martyr to absolve his sins, she must. And in return, in her own angry soul, she can have grace. But, in the meantime, she howls at the walls around her, at her own limitations, screaming out epithets of loving this man, not to seek his love, but to make her own love break through the ice and warm his frozen soul.
I know this conceit didn't work for a lot of people -- we're expecting men and women to be a certain way in these shows, and see it as bad writing if they don't. But the Snow Queen really took on a fable-ish/"adult" fairy tale through the 2nd half of the drama, to a degree, that I hadn't seen since Autumn Tale.
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KumaxellJoined: 10 Jul 2005 Total posts: 393 |
| Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:19 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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I don't know why I kept crying when watching this show. I haven't cried this much since 1 Litre of Tears and Butterfly Lovers.
I'm a little reluctant finishing this show. So far it's good. But if the second half becomes a standardized melodramatic K show, I might smash the TV.
belleza, did you write reviews for other shows, too? I love your Snow Queen review.
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bellezaJoined: 21 Jan 2007 Total posts: 725 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:33 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| Quote: | | But if the second half becomes a standardized melodramatic K show, I might smash the TV. |
Uhm, that TV doesn't cost very much, right? ;)
I found the ending satisfying and even uplifting. I'm not sure, though, whether other people felt the same way.
| Quote: | | I haven't cried this much since 1 Litre of Tears and Butterfly Lovers. |
I think the difference between Japanese and Korean tearjerkers is that the former emphasizes the helplessness people really are against fate, whereas the latter reiterates familial bonds. What killed me with Autumn Tale are the scenes between the child and mothers. Rare Korean exception for me was MiSa -- the romance is so authentic/intense that it made me cry just by the way he smiled at her, knowing full well the basic hopelessness of their situation. And the Japanese exception for me is the movie version of Ima Ai/Be With You, which is a kind of impassioned thank you to young motherhood/wifehood rather than "pure love." And of course 1 Litre.
Snow Queen works in more familiar territory. Most of the sadness is derived from the bonds of friendship, really surrogate brotherhood, and the strain of the parent-child relationship. And there's just enough fairy tale -- true to the Endless Love style -- so that things seem to take on a more symbolic, again "Christian" perspective as the series closes out.
I really liked Hyun Bin in this show. His acting style in general, especially the way in which he delivers his lines in a kind of "waves of the sea" cadence, conveys both deep inward pride and self-absorption. That may not sound flattering, but I mean it as a compliment. He brings out internality into his performances, whether he's a spoiled brat a la his characters in KSS or Millionaire, a confused young husband in Ireland, or here a tortured, self-loathing genius type.
However his character here is gentle and saintly, that very gentleness makes his heart further unreachable by most people, because it's deeply sucking off his self-absorption. Bo Ra senses this and so she cannot take his kindness by face value. I really, really enjoyed Hyun Bin in this role. It's not a original role, but it was nevertheless enjoyable watching an actor playing someone so adolescently, so effeminately conflicted with himself. Yes, most Korean actors cry on the spot, but Hyun Bin is distinctively emo, which is again meant as a compliment. Hamlet was emo too. I would have loved to see an actress like the brilliant Kim Min Jung play the part of Bo Ra; her face comes prepackaged with a smirk, and they played off each other well in Ireland.
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I mean that was the reason why I didn't get into this series in the first place but by ep 2 I was completely blown away. The story is really beautiful and everything falls in place so well. I mean it had a sad tone throughout but not so much to make the whole thing depressing like MISA *clears throat*. There was a good balance of happy and sad scenes. I admit to fastforwarding some parts, which is something I usually refrain from doing, but this series has been highly enjoyable none the less. It's so meaningful and it really melts my heart. 
I hope there is a DVD box set coming out for it. Anyways, I came in here to ask if anyone knows of a Korean drama lyrics site or know where I can get the translations or romanizations of the OST. Okie dokes, back to watching episode 14. 
