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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:08 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote
Korean is supposed to be one of the most difficult languages to learn (along with Icelandic Laugh )
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^ i thought chinese was. Korean's more phonetic in the way words are formed (i'm guessing)

chinese and korean are completey different. I would learn chinese first since most of the people in the world speak it.

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I am going for Mandarin, my wife can speak 2-3 different dialects Smile.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 5:30 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote
ianwarren wrote:
Korean is supposed to be one of the most difficult languages to learn (along with Icelandic Laugh )


Nah, not even close. Chinese, Japanese and some of the slavic languages are much harder than korean. According to many korean is one of the easier east asian languages. Not sure which is the hardest. Some told me for english speakers japanese would be harder to learn because you have to adapt to a brand new grammar and remember the onyomi and kunyomi of the kanji, and the kunyomi isn't always the same for every word. The chinese grammar is much more similar to english, but it has many more characters and the tones can be a pain.

Korean doesn't really have any of these problems from what I hear. The alphabet takes a while to learn, but it's nothing like learning kanji. I'm not sure about the grammar, but at worse it can only be as bad as japanese, in which case the japanese writing system still trumps it.
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kotaeshiranaihito wrote:
ianwarren wrote:
Korean is supposed to be one of the most difficult languages to learn (along with Icelandic Laugh )


Nah, not even close. Chinese, Japanese and some of the slavic languages are much harder than korean. According to many korean is one of the easier east asian languages. Not sure which is the hardest. Some told me for english speakers japanese would be harder to learn because you have to adapt to a brand new grammar and remember the onyomi and kunyomi of the kanji, and the kunyomi isn't always the same for every word. The chinese grammar is much more similar to english, but it has many more characters and the tones can be a pain.

Korean doesn't really have any of these problems from what I hear. The alphabet takes a while to learn, but it's nothing like learning kanji. I'm not sure about the grammar, but at worse it can only be as bad as japanese, in which case the japanese writing system still trumps it.


Well everyone knows reading korean is pretty easy...I myself learned it in 2hours. But the language itself I find a lot more complicated than japanese because all of the ending and everything.
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Well everyone knows reading korean is pretty easy...I myself learned it in 2hours. But the language itself I find a lot more complicated than japanese because all of the ending and everything.


2 hours Suprise, which is the source to learn in 2 hour can you guide me plz Whistling .[/quote]
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I would definitely learn Mandarin first of course I'm an account/business major so it would benefit me greatly knowing English (my native language) and Mandarin, if you know those 2 languages you can communicate with 2/3 of the world's population. I am teaching myself Mandarin and Korean, I already learned Japanese at the University I attend (I'm not fluent though so I'm still learning it). if any one knows of some good websites or computer programs to help in learning Korean and Mandarin I'd be interested in hearing about them.

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When it comes to asian studies, i think mandarin and japanese are very popular in the west. As for korean, its only good for understanding kdramas, and well maybe if you want to go there for holiday.

the korean writing system is much more simple! looks a bit like keyring hoops and other odd shapes. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:17 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote
sorry guys I mean SPOKEN Korean is one of the hardest languages to learn. Spoken Japanese in comparison is much easier. (I can imagine that a writing system that uses 'symbols' is much harder than a phronetic alphabet like Hangul though! Not to mention 3 alphabets for one language Big Smile )

I've even been told by non native Koreans that Korean is too hard to learn though!

I actually saw on TV this chap saying that the widely held belief that Japanese is difficult to learn is actually perpetuated in part by the Japanese themselves. I suppose it keeps an air of superiority if everyone thinks that you speak some kind of super complicated language Mr. Green

I study Japanese on and off and I think once you sort of work out that the sentence structure is totally different to English it's rather easy to progress. I can confidently say that I could walk into a Japanese bar, say hello, order a beer and ask for directions to the train station Big Smile

*edit - I had a quick look online and Hungarian is supposed to also be one of the most difficult languages to learn... nouns have 38 cases Suprise
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:43 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote
i learn both chinese and korean.

to start with korean is the easiest because of the alphabet, but it quickly becomes much harder than chinese.

in chinese i spend a lot of time memorising the characters but the grammar is generally pretty easy.

full korean (with full hanja, all the grammar rules and all the different politeness levels) is easily the hardest language i have ever been exposed to (and i've been exposed to a lot)

although i hear formal german and hungarian are also very hard.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:54 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote
I'm facing a similar problem now-- trying to decide between taking korean or chinese. i'm already well acquainted with japanese, and i've heard that the grammatical structure between korean and japanese is pretty similar. but then, if i took chinese i would know how to write some of the kanji.

like people have already said: i think in terms of learning korean writing, that is the easier language
but in terms of grammar, it's chinese.
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I prefer Korean.
WhY?
I speak, write, talk in korean!

and plus,
EASIER to learn Korean than Chineese!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:18 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote
Learn BOTH korean AND chineese

whY?

each language is valuable! and special! and unique! and cool!!!
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Well everyone knows reading korean is pretty easy...I myself learned it in 2hours. But the language itself I find a lot more complicated than japanese because all of the ending and everything.


2 hours Suprise, which is the source to learn in 2 hour can you guide me plz Whistling .
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Well I used the declan software but what after learning to read I am stuck with the actual language. I mean you learn the vocabulary and than dont recognize it when you hear it in a drama because of the many endings...kinda depressing.
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Rakkie wrote:
i learn both chinese and korean.

to start with korean is the easiest because of the alphabet, but it quickly becomes much harder than chinese.

in chinese i spend a lot of time memorising the characters but the grammar is generally pretty easy.

full korean (with full hanja, all the grammar rules and all the different politeness levels) is easily the hardest language i have ever been exposed to (and i've been exposed to a lot)

although i hear formal german and hungarian are also very hard.


I agree. I know Chinese, the way you structure a sentence in chinese is bascially the same as english. Pronouncation is easy too. The only hard bit is remembering the characters.

I studied Japanese in high school. Its a bit harder with 2 alphabets and also learning Kanji but not too bad if u know Chinese already.

Korean is totally new to me. After watching dramas, I pick up soo many words and randomly speak it to my friend who is korean. What I didnt know, was there are sooo man different politeness levels! My friends parents came down for her graduation and I spoke some phrases to her, only to realise later, I spoke them to her on a 'casual, buddy, friend level'. I felt so retarded!!! Neutral

So while, we're on the topic, I came across this article a while ago.
http://www.xanga.com/koreancooking?nextdate=7%2f31%2f2006+18%3a52%3a36.420&direction=n
Have a read, its really intersting and you will understand where Im coming from!!
(Bonus if u like korean food, cuz this site has heaps of recipies!!! w00t )
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