DramaWiki - Information Repository for Asian Dramas UPDATE

MyDramaList · Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 12:33 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

I am not entirely sure, that I am writing in the correct topic...

I would like to create a scraper for XBMC, that looks up information of dramas from DramaWiki. And I thought I would ask permission first...

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:45 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

And I have a one question, how long are we supposed to wait when the account will be created on DW?
Because I'm waiting almost 2 weeks..

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:44 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Sorry, Ethlenn. Usually it doesn't take that long. I haven't had time to check DW for the last days. sweating

I just noticed about 30 pending account requests of users who still haven't confirmed their email addresses yet. Just PM me your DW account name (or email address) and I'll check out if there went something wrong.

@all:
Please note that we only approve DramaWiki account requests of users who have confirmed their email address and expressed their wish to become an DramaWiki contributor in at least one or two proper English sentences (in their biography text). You don't have to reveal any personal (real life) data in your application bio.

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:58 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Thank you for solving this, MoerkJ Big Smile

I know we are all busy here.

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:58 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Hello,

I was curious why some dramas were missing from the wiki, examples off the top of my head are Ancient Dogoo girls, and Atsui zo. I would love to see a cast list, but I can't read from the Japanese sites yet. Is it just because no one has added them, or another reason?

Thanks very much!!

Dave.

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:42 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Hello all
What happened?
Managed to get in d-addicts site, but everytime I click Drama Wiki I get redirected to a drug addict site!!!
the following caption:- This domain name expired on Oct 27 2010 03:48PM
Click here to renew it.
Hope that the wiki sector isn't hacked...the other sectors are OK.
Unsure

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:19 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

As I mention on the Tech Support section, the d-addicts.com domain had expired yesterday and the domain registrar is trying to make money of the expired domain with a placeholder. Guess the ads company they use think Drug Addicts was the original propose of the site.

Anyway, I have no way of contacting the admin of the site. But he should figure out that he needs to renew the domain when he try to connect the site.

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 8:09 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Maybe this isnt the right place to write this but on this site http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Fayray its stated that Fayray sang the themsong hikaru for the drama: http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Waraeru_Koi_wa_Shitakunai Actually the song is called hikari (光) with an "I" not an "U" at the end.

EDIT: Sorry, looks like both is right Roll Eyes

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:24 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

I don't get why the wiki has to be so closed. My favorite actress' entry is very incomplete (as are many others), and I don't see anyone fixing it. If I wanted to do it I'd have to send an application. Forget it.

If you're going to run the wiki by yourselves, then I expect you to keep it updated. But you're not able to do that, so why not let people just register?

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:27 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

All we want is one or two sentences in english language where you express your wish to contribute... nothing more. We don't want any private information or "curriculum vitae". This is only to prevent the creation bogus accounts or to keep vandals and spammers away.

MoerkJ salut

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:25 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

HI! Newbie here. I don't know if this is the right place to post these questions/requests, but I will ask/request anyway.

1. Where do I send a request to update JO HYUN JAE''s dramawiki account?

He is currently working on the Chinese drama 胭脂霸王 (Official English title: KING ROUGE; Literal Translation: ROUGE OVERLORD/ROUGE HEGEMON).

The drama will air on HSTV in February 2012.

2. Since 胭脂霸王 (Official English title: KING ROUGE; Literal Translation: ROUGE OVERLORD/ROUGE HEGEMON) is already listed in HSTV's drama lineup for 2012
can I request someone to update the list of upcoming Chinese dramas to include this drama?

3. Can I also request that a dramawiki account be created for this drama?

For more details here is the link to the drama's thread on soompi: http://www.soompi.com/forums/topic/370059-mainland-china-drama-2012-king-rougerouge-overlordrouge-hegemon-胭脂霸王/

4. Is it possible to include this info on the 49 Days dramawiki account?

Jo Hyun Jae contributed a song in the drama's OST. Title of the song is “단 하루를 살아도” (Even If I Live Just One Day).

Thank you in advance to anyone who can help me. Smile

Like the title says, I want to fix the sections.

Here's the basic idea:

-Names by default will be in the Revised Romanization of Korean to show support and respect to the language and to the writing system which is derived from Chinese characters (Hanja) and known as Hangeul. (It's a big deal.) This won't affect some actors who have taken different romanizations to at first prevent confusion. For example, the "Jung Woo-sung" page will remain as the "Jung Woo-sung" page and it will not be transliterated to "Jeong U-seong" as RR states.

There will instead be a note stating that this name is romanized by RR as it is. For example, it will say "Name: 정우성 (RR: Jeong U-seong)."

For this, let's have some documentation and let's discuss it if it is too ambiguous.

Other names such as characters will be in RR to prevent confusion and to support the Korean language. For example, Jeong's character in "Athena: Goddess of War" is "Yi Jeong-u" but it states Lee Jung Woo.

If a character is shown with a different kind of romanization, it will be added to the side. I believe Seo Yu-gyeong in "Pasta" had her name written "Seo You-gyeong" or something similar. This would then go to the side like "Gong Hyo-jin as Seo Yu-gyeong (alt. Seo You-gyeong)".

The name for Han Seo-u in "Twinkle Twinkle" also would be "Han Seo-u (alt. Seo-u Lee)".

This brings me to the next topic regarding names in dramas. The default will be the names officially given by the companies which produce the dramas unless they greatly differ to the point in which most viewers wouldn't be able to recognize them. Therefore, "Twinkle Twinkle" becomes the title until DVD changes because it is a line included in the original title. Alternate titles from other countries are welcome in the "Also Known As" section.

- There are some issues with reviews.

Personal reviews on wiki pages are bad etiquette. Add a link to a personal review at the bottom of the page!

Wiki pages aren't for personal bias. They help other people remember or understand information faster than searching other places.

Poorly written reviews from other sites also are bad. If you can do better, please write one that has no bias yourself.

- If you are uncertain about Revised Romanization, you can send me a message.

- Does anyone have any suggestions? Please help and spread the word. Let's unify these pages.

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:26 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

At first, you're welcome to contribute as a DramaWiki editor. You can request an account if you don't have one. See the DramaWiki discussion thread for more details.

Regarding the romanization of Korean names...
As the DramaWiki guideline say the name profile format for Korean artist pages is:

"Name: <hangul> / <simple> (<revised>)"

i.e. it would be "Name: 정우성 / Jung Woo Sung (Jeong U Seong)" in your case

What I called here "<simple>" is of course debatable, because it is something we made up ourselves. See page DramaWiki:Korean Personal Names Romanization Preferences for details. We had a few discussions about romanization here in the forum and also in DramaWiki. I don't think there is a need for a big change. Also I know that some pages don't exactly follow the name formatting scheme and need to be fixed.

Regarding drama names... I guess this is difficult issue. AFAIK for many dramas exist no official English title because the shows are/were usually produced for the Korean market only. Many English titles are just inofficial translations or translations by 3rd parties. So, many dramas have different alternative titles. I tried to add the source for the titles on a few pages if known (i.e. KBS Global, KBFD-TV, YesAsia, etc.). See My Rosy Life for example. I guess, this could be improved on many pages.

Last one the reviews. These are a legacy thing. They should be either removed or perhaps moved to a linked subpage. In 2005 the reviews were actually the main reason to start the wiki. We had a small reviewer team and we transferred the reviews from the forum to the wiki. The whole idea died after about 15-20 reviews, or so. The original reviews still exist in the forum and could be linked to. We don't need them in DramaWiki anymore as it contradicts the NPOV idea.

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:06 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Thank you for the response.

I will take a look at the guidelines to see what went wrong and to be within bounds. I think I'll start an account next week when I'm not busy.

The "simple" isn't quite the "simple" so would what would we call it to make it under their chosen romanization? Could it be "chosen" because people think their own romanization is what goes there? Revised actually goes A B-c while most people think it's A B C.

Regarding drama names, for this I think RR would be perfect. Under regular Korean, they do not change and RR will reflect it. If an alternate name is used in there like "[First name] Lee", then we can add that. I think this would be great if it is incorporated as part of the format. It will be easier to follow this than a "Hyunsu" which could be spoken as "휸수" or "현수" to someone who wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

Yes, the names get messy, but my suggestion is that we take the names given to us and not personal opinion. We are given "Twinkle Twinkle" for "반짝반짝 빛나는" to reflect "반짝반짝" in the title from MBC. I have not seen a "Sparkling" one. Perhaps we can have a thread dedicated to submitting alternative titles?

Can the reviews be gathered into a thread of some sort which also is accessible by wiki links?

Thanks again for the response.

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:40 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

What I called simple romanization here is more or less what existed before South Korea introduced the revised romanization in 2000. The old (simple) romanization was commonly used outside Korea and I call it "simple" (or simplified) for technical reasons because it doesn't use special letters (breves and aphostrophes). In fact it may be confusing because it is more pronounciation oriented and it is not suitable for "backwards" transcription. I'm not a language expert. You can read more on Wikipedia.

For drama titles I'd prefer RR for transcriptions. Maybe for all text, except for names. For names I'd list both transcriptions. Unfortunately, official(!) name transcription can be RR or "simplified" or even a mix of both. There exist no real rules which is very unsatisfyingly IMHO. For artist page titles we usually chose the romanization that is used on the official artist homepages, if existant, or just what is most commonly used (on the internet). If there is any doubt, then using the RR for an artist page is also fine.

Now some technical notes on wikis, specifically MediaWiki wikis...

In a wiki it is easy to change the page titles using the move feature. This way a page can have more than one title (=the displayed title). Page titles may change for several reasons. Artists may switch from real name to stage names and vice versa. Drama titles may change during the production process and so on. The only important thing is that the different names are listed and explained properly on each page.

If you find that a certain page title is incorrect or uncommon then you can always discuss this on the article's associated discussion page (talk page). For example, if you think that "Sparkling" should not be the page title for the drama "반짝반짝 빛나는" ("Banjjak Banjjak Bitnaneun") then you can always discuss it on its talk page your just rename it as you wish.

regarding the reviews...
I just noticed that at least some reviews were removed from the forum. So we'll probably keep them on separate wiki pages like we did for Seikei Bijin. The separate subpages will be put into a review category for easy accessing. Until then you can use the Google search inside DramaWiki to find them.