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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 2:42 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

with HD 720p/1080p rips coming of age and with h264 codec in avi/mkv containers becoming more and more popular, a set top DVD player capable of srt/divx is not advisable anymore IMO.

HTPC is the way go.

Plug your PC to your TV and there you go. Or build a dedicated one. Which ever way you like.


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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 4:52 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

popoycanton wrote:
with HD 720p/1080p rips coming of age and with h264 codec in avi/mkv containers becoming more and more popular, a set top DVD player capable of srt/divx is not advisable anymore IMO.

HTPC is the way go.

Plug your PC to your TV and there you go. Or build a dedicated one. Which ever way you like.


Not practical for everyone. I have a computer room, because I can't fit the computer in my bedroom with the tv. Plus, I don't want to be tied to the computer, and I want to watch something while someone else is using the computer. Whistling

The codecs and container support on DVD players gets better all the time, so those will become commonly supported in the future as they gain popularity.

I have one of the Phillips 5140/37 models. It's cheap, region free, and it plays most DivX that I throw at it. It's certainly not perfect. The .srt files don't have word wrap, don't support more than 3 lines at a time, and don't support things like italics. I've begun editing the files when I burn them to data DVDs. You can also use freeware programs like Subtitle Workshop to convert to .sub files, which look much nicer than .srt on these players.

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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:30 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

HTPC should be seen as entertainment center, and PC as a bonus.

I actually have two Pio divx capable players, they still do their part. As more established groups are shifting to h264, ie DB,nya (shelling out HD rips ex. osen), more films (asian from FSS), my stand alones are getting less viewing time.

I doubt you'll see h264 in avi/mkv capable players any time soon.

HD h264 is here to stay, investing in a divx stand alone at this time would not be a wise choice.

Not to mention how gorgeous HD is. Once you go HD, there is no turning back Smile
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:19 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

The thing about building a HTPC is that:

1. It must be very small (laptop size at the most)

2. It must be quiet

3. It must produce very little heat (the Playstation 3 is like an Easy Bake Oven!)

The smallest I've seen thus far is Hewlett-Packard's multimedia PCs. But even they're somewhat large in size. The problem I see is that PC manufacturers are trying to combine a DVD player with DVR capabilities. The DVR is what's causing these things to be large in size - as PC manufacturers like HP are still using 3.5-inch hard drives (vs flash drives and such.) Also, manufacturers are relying on 3rd-party peripherals for video capturing, such as ATI and such, and therefore require a full-sized PCI slot, adding even more bulk to the unit. And last, managing the OS - as most people already have a difficult time with the PC they already have.

The nice thing about an appliance like a DVD player is that they're small and are designed to fit in with the rest of the equipment in your entertainment center. And, as an embedded device it pretty much runs itself with no OS to manage. The PC will eventually become the nucleus of the entertainment system, but you still have several generations of people whose mindsets are still associated with set-top boxes.

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I have a problem with my dvd player. I just can display subtile with ekstension .SRT but not .SSA. Is there anybody have a same problem with me??

How to solve this problem?? Thanks..
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 8:54 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

ita_wang wrote:
I have a problem with my dvd player. I just can display subtile with ekstension .SRT but not .SSA. Is there anybody have a same problem with me??

How to solve this problem?? Thanks..


Convert your .SSA file to .SRT using subtitle workshop.
Do a google search and you're bound to find it.
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amrayu wrote:
ita_wang wrote:
I have a problem with my dvd player. I just can display subtile with ekstension .SRT but not .SSA. Is there anybody have a same problem with me??

How to solve this problem?? Thanks..


Convert your .SSA file to .SRT using subtitle workshop.
Do a google search and you're bound to find it.


Thank you so much , Amrayu. I'll try that. But I read a article which mentioned that .SSA better than .SRT

Just curious, is that all dvd can't play .SSA ?
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 9:52 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

.SRT is the simplest form of a subtitle.
With .SSA you can add effects and typesetting. It's just something a little fancier than .SRT.

I haven't seen any type of DVD player that played .SSA yet.
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 10:11 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Philips DVP5982 plays SSA subtitles, but all effects / fonts are stripped off.
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 1:01 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

amrayu wrote:
.SRT is the simplest form of a subtitle.
With .SSA you can add effects and typesetting. It's just something a little fancier than .SRT.

I haven't seen any type of DVD player that played .SSA yet.


Is there limit for AVI's video resolution so that can be played at dvd player?
Because of mine, there is AVI Files can't be played at DVD Player and when I checked all of them, they all have different video resolution.

What software which can be changed AVI's video r esolution?

Please, give me advice.
Thank u so much..
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:46 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

ita_wang wrote:

Is there limit for AVI's video resolution so that can be played at dvd player?
Because of mine, there is AVI Files can't be played at DVD Player and when I checked all of them, they all have different video resolution.

What software which can be changed AVI's video r esolution?

Please, give me advice.
Thank u so much..


You might try superconverter. Though i never tried it before i heard it is an easy to use software to convert computer video files back and forth.

As for playing it on the dvd i could only say that perhaps you need to make sure it is under the ntsc specs ( 720x480 ) to play on ntsc region players.
When you convert files to make them under the ntsc specs you might wanna do your best to resize it by mod32 or at least mod16 for better results.

doom9 does a great job at explaining the resize methods.
http://www.doom9.org/mpg/avistretching.htm

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:56 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

ita_wang wrote:
amrayu wrote:
.SRT is the simplest form of a subtitle.
With .SSA you can add effects and typesetting. It's just something a little fancier than .SRT.

I haven't seen any type of DVD player that played .SSA yet.


Is there limit for AVI's video resolution so that can be played at dvd player?
Because of mine, there is AVI Files can't be played at DVD Player and when I checked all of them, they all have different video resolution.

Max resolution for Standard Definition NTSC is 720x480...

If you have an 1080p HDTV and a upconverting DVD player, you can go as high as 1920x1080 pixels through the HDMI port... Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:04 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Edit: Whoops, answered in the topic lol
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:07 pm    Post subject: Re: DVD players and soft subs   Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

itsukiD wrote:

subtitle had to be selected, but other than that it looks so much better than philips subtitle feature for avi files. this is a standalone dvd/divx solution only, when i tried to play it on windows media player and media player classic, the subs did not appear.


I can no longer find "DivXMuxWizz" even via Google. But I can find a DivXMuxGUI. I will test it out soon.

Edit:
For those who are also looking for a solution after DivXMuxWizz disappeared, I just finished testing DivXMuxGUI. It works on my Phillips DVP 3040! However, it is strange. It only works if I stripped the raw AVI from its audio stream. In DivXMuxGUI, I used the video-only AVI as the video source. For the audio source, I used the raw file with both video and audio and I have to specify the audio's track number. Since it only has one audio stream, it is track 1. Then I selected my SRT subtitle, choosing the format as widescreen (if your raw is widescreen). I'm guessing this will accommodate the TV screen's overscan area so subs won't get cut off.

And just a word of caution, the GUI outputs as .divx format and it even has options to make a menu like DVDs, however contains no instructions for the noob. Neutral Plus, when my player first played the .divx, it froze so I had to pull the plug and restart.

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