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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:32 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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Exactly what I was thinking of. I mean, I get that she loved him and all, but from her own words after that rape scene, didn't she want to protect her dear friends? With Sousuke dead, she could have showed some relief that her friends are now safe. Not just her friends either, but herself also. Like mixed emotions at the time with a confused look instead of just crying over him. (imo, the crying wasn't really convincing either) I doubt that the only thing that was running through Michiru's head was "Omg, my beloved is now dead! What shall I do?" More likely she would have thought about the outcome and consequences of his death and not just cry like a baby over a dead piece of meat.
Meh, just my opinion.


I think she did want to protect her friends, hence the scene after. But then again, the more I think about it, Sosuke killing himself wasn't very logical. Does this show mental instability? Or just crappy scriptwriting? It would have made more sense after episode five "A Shocking Night" or something like that. Does anyone think Sosuke would have died right there in the hypothesized "original" script?

Oh yeah, since I'm new to the J-Drama scene, I find it pretty funny how the full length OP was cut down to like 15-20 seconds after the fourth episode. Is that common practice? If not, maybe that's where the change occurred and they didn't want to "mislead" us.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:44 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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Oh yeah, since I'm new to the J-Drama scene, I find it pretty funny how the full length OP was cut down to like 15-20 seconds after the fourth episode. Is that common practice? If not, maybe that's where the change occurred and they didn't want to "mislead" us.


Yes, I noticed that FujiTV and TBS dramas tend to do that a lot like four or five episodes in.

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kuo87 wrote:

Oh yeah, since I'm new to the J-Drama scene, I find it pretty funny how the full length OP was cut down to like 15-20 seconds after the fourth episode. Is that common practice? If not, maybe that's where the change occurred and they didn't want to "mislead" us.


I think it's to save more time for the actual drama, as tiny a fraction it is.

When did this thread become a Juri>Masami in acting bashing? >_>

I just watched Masami in a couple movies that were both completely different from one another and also Last Friends: 隠し砦の三悪人 (Kakushi toride) and ラフ (Rough) (and soon I will watch そのかれ, but that sounds like another weepy role). Last Friends convinced me that her acting wasn't good at all, but when I saw those two I'm a Masami believer. I highly believe it's the director at fault because she was extremely inconsistent in Last Friends.

Don't get me wrong, I love Juri through and through and think she's a great actress. I just think it's unfair that people are knocking Masami's acting and compare her to Juri if they haven't seen anything else she's done. She may not be as chameleon-like as Juri, but she's got a pretty good range of roles under her belt. She HAS done a lot more than these weepy roles, just take a look at her filmography.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:31 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

rukaxmichiru wrote:

Exactly what I was thinking of. I mean, I get that she loved him and all, but from her own words after that rape scene, didn't she want to protect her dear friends? With Sousuke dead, she could have showed some relief that her friends are now safe. Not just her friends either, but herself also. Like mixed emotions at the time with a confused look instead of just crying over him. (imo, the crying wasn't really convincing either) I doubt that the only thing that was running through Michiru's head was "Omg, my beloved is now dead! What shall I do?" More likely she would have thought about the outcome and consequences of his death and not just cry like a baby over a dead piece of meat.
Meh, just my opinion.


Totally agree, u spoke the words out of my mind (The bold one). Instead of crying over him, I thought her reaction would be like: Michiru's shock face, scared, stepping back from him, dropping down on her knees.THen come to him, reaching him by his arm and then notice the letter. (lol my opinion).

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I think she did want to protect her friends, hence the scene after. But then again, the more I think about it, Sosuke killing himself wasn't very logical. Does this show mental instability? Or just crappy scriptwriting? It would have made more sense after episode five "A Shocking Night" or something like that. Does anyone think Sosuke would have died right there in the hypothesized "original" script?

Oh yeah, since I'm new to the J-Drama scene, I find it pretty funny how the full length OP was cut down to like 15-20 seconds after the fourth episode. Is that common practice? If not, maybe that's where the change occurred and they didn't want to "mislead" us.


About Sousuke suicide, I thought about the original script would have him dead after ep 5 also.
Yea about the OP. I noticed that to. THey change OP by the middle of the series which is common.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:02 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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Don't get me wrong, I love Juri through and through and think she's a great actress. I just think it's unfair that people are knocking Masami's acting and compare her to Juri if they haven't seen anything else she's done. She may not be as chameleon-like as Juri, but she's got a pretty good range of roles under her belt. She HAS done a lot more than these weepy roles, just take a look at her filmography.


Well, it's just some peoples' opinions on their acting in LF that's all.
Personally, I don't think that Masami's acting is very convincing and it's not only from my opinion of LF. I've watched most, almost all of her other works wayyyyy before I found out who Juri is, and I still don't find it THAT convincing. Just my opinion. I think she needs to take on a totally different and dramatic role in order to shine. Tongue But she was in sailorfuku... and it was kinda meh. Oh well, at least she has a cute face can save her... photogenic thumleft I'll give her props for that.

I'm not saying that she's sucks at acting or anything, she is capable in her own ways, but being next to Juri and others of the same age group in a drama, you can see some differences and usually you would think that the lead actress would outshine everyone else, right?

Not trying to anger any Masami fans here, it's just what I think. Read it or not it's your choice. Laugh
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rukaxmichiru wrote:
I'm not saying that she's sucks at acting or anything, she is capable in her own ways, but being next to Juri and others of the same age group in a drama, you can see some differences and usually you would think that the lead actress would outshine everyone else, right?

Maybe it's a matter of chemistry... Juri-chan and Eita work together so well here... Mainly because they've worked together so many times in the past. Smile

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Maybe it's a matter of chemistry... Juri-chan and Eita work together so well here... Mainly because they've worked together so many times in the past. Smile


Actually, I think that's very true. but then again, I do notice how the chemistry between Juri chan and Masami chan. Juri chan even said that the role or Ruka has kind of grown on her. So, maybe chemistry between those two worked really well, but not anywhere else.
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Eh, I accidentally read a spoiler at the top of the page .... Glare

I am on episode 2 so far. And i've read this thread until page 19 and i need a break.

It is weird watching this drama. but i will continue watching for the sake of Ueno Juri and see how the story will progress. anyway, what i feel like saying is that Masami's acting skills is still the same when I watched her in Proposal Daisakusen. And i didn't like PD btw Smile When Ryo started beating her, i thought she could show a bit of fear? I'm not sure whether her reaction is s'posed to be played out like that.

But I thought in the drama Pride, Takeuchi Yuko acted better when her ex boyfriend hit her. She managed to express the fear of getting hit. thumright
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Part 3 of the manga is out!

I've uploaded it at my blog. There's no translation so it's just a scan. If someone can offer any insight on the contents then that will be great!!

http://yasashiisekai.wordpress.com/

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i fall in loved with this drama..
n ruka too.. hahhha..
she's really a good actress.. loved watching her act in nodame n this drama too..

still waiting SP epi to dload..
great drama again for me.. Smile
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Totally loved Last Friends,one of the best drama I've ever watched.Although I started watching it because of Ryo,I think that all the actors did great as well! I've read almost all the pages here and I really want to say sth about the scene with Michiru finding Sousuke's body.

I think her reaction was really normal.I think it was a huge surprise for her,I mean,maybe she thought that now that she had told him she would stay with him,he would be satisfied.I believed she never thought that he would kill himself,I mean,he had already threatened to do it once,but never did it,right?
In addition,although he had done all these terrible things to her and her friends,they had also had shared beautiful moments as well,and I believe that she still cared a bit about him,if not loving him.Well,I'm sure that later,she would feel relief now that her friends were safe,but I think that crying over him as her first reaction was...normal.I mean,what would you do if you woke up and you saw someone you knew dead and the whole scene covered with blood?Well,I'd probably do the same.
I think that Michiru's character wasn't capable of hating anyone...

However,thinking that Sousuke forgave her by giving her the baby was a bit silly,I think.But even if it's like this,I don't think we can blame him for that.I mean,he nver told her ''I forgive you with this baby'',plus he shouldn't be the one to forgive.Although I was never able to hate Sousuke,I didn't like the methods he used to make Michiru come back to him.I'm sure that he loved till the end,just wasn't able to show his love the right way.I have to say that I was able to understand his feeling,even a bit.He wasn't a totally bad person,it was just this contradiction thing that did it all.

I also believe that Sousuke can't be described as an actual DV person,I mean,real DV people don't just regret what they've done,cry,and then kill themselves,right?

I also have a question:I know that he was to be killed at the first episodes.But that would be a bit wierd,I mean if he killed himself at episode 5 or so,then why would he be one of the main characters,why be in the opening if he wasn't going to exist at later episodes.

Just my opinion though...I may be totally wrong,but I felt like saying all these things...
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Nikkansports Awards~

Best Drama: CHANGE
(second was Last Friends!!^^)
Best Actress: Amami Yuki -->around 40
Best Actor: Kimura Takuya -->change
Best Supporting Actor: Nishikido Ryo--> LF
(fourth was Eita)
Best Supporting Actress: Ueno Juri --->LF

http://www.nikkansports.com/entertainment/dramagp/top-dramagp.html

we can be satisfied right?~^^ LF did great!~
YES! Ryo won!!pinch
and please don't start with "oh no, why Ryo..it should be Eita"thinggie..Ryo did great in LF and it's of course also thanks to his JE popularity I know!Smile
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Yay for Ryo-chan and Ueno Juri!
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Yes! Great Job Last Friends! I heard CHANGE wasn't good. So it is the best drama? Hooray for Ueno Juri!! Omedeto for Last Friends and its casts .
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Nikkansports Awards~


Best Supporting Actress: Ueno Juri --->LF



That's all I care Wub

Thanks for the info. Mr. Green

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