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[Discussion] Last Friends - Nagasawa Masami/Ueno Juri/Eita

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:28 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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wow now u gonna slam Eita bcoz other people slam Ryo acting.....


Are you actually reading what I said? Wow, that is the most ridiculous comment I have ever read. I don't even KNOW what to say to that comment right there.

People, Ryo would not get BEST ACTOR because he was not in a Male in a Leading Role, that category would go to Eita because he was the leading male in the drama, the only thing Ryo would be up for would be SUPPORTING ACTOR. >_> Anyway.

Juri could not receive best actress because she is not a leading actress, that was Masami. Juri was a supporting actress, not leading. Again, to even compare those two is ridiculous because they would not even be up for the same award.

I don't even count the finale as a testment to Ryo's acting considering Ryo wasn't even acting in the finale, persay. So that argument falls short on the writers, not Ryo Nishikido's acting skills. Yes, I felt the child was pushed on but I also realized the child was a reflection on Sousuke's past, as for his acting it was showing his contradiction. Sousuke was a contradiction, it wasn't to win you over it was to show you the contradiction that was Sousuke.

Example:

" Are you lonely? "
" No, I am not. "
" Why? "
" Because she will come back to me "

It was to show the contradiction in his character, Sousuke was not written for your sympathy, he was written to show you the contradiction of a man that he was. Ryo, I felt, successfully pulled that off. I did not like Sousuke, I felt him to be a contradiction, and I think he pulled that off. I was not looking for signs of caring and a sign for me to like him. Sousuke's character was sick, I believe everything was clearly acted well enough from Ryo for me to understand this. I knew he was sick, I knew he was angry, I knew that he was a villian, I knew he needed help. All of this was conveyed to me.

When he comes around a corner, when I put my hand over my mouth, when I react to him that means Ryo Nishikido has got me believing his character.

I am not going to continue with this anymore, I am just going to say what I am going to say and go but I feel that due should be given. The cast was great and not a single person was weak. To say Masami was a weak actress because her character is weak is almost as dumb to say Ryo was weak because I didn't like his character.

You must UNDERSTAND their character, the direction, the scene, the atmosphere and then judge from there. Don't go for the first layer, dig deeper. That is what I am trying to say.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:37 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Laugh Laugh A contradiction indeed.
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rukaxmichiru wrote:
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Ladymercury wrote:
Don't under estimate his acting in this drama, it was his acting that attracted nearly EVERYONE to this drama.

Every fangirl, you mean. Tongue


LOL! It wasn''t his acting that attracted everyone, it was just him being in there. Glare I bet if he was like some sub character that didn't do anything at all peoplewould still watch for him. bleh.

Yup, that's what I think as well... If Sosuke wasn't played by a JE boy or similar, the ratings wouldn't have been so high, nor would the story have been altered to try to humanize him...

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:42 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

bmwracer wrote:
rukaxmichiru wrote:
bmwracer wrote:
Ladymercury wrote:
Don't under estimate his acting in this drama, it was his acting that attracted nearly EVERYONE to this drama.

Every fangirl, you mean. Tongue


LOL! It wasn''t his acting that attracted everyone, it was just him being in there. Glare I bet if he was like some sub character that didn't do anything at all peoplewould still watch for him. bleh.

Yup, that's what I think as well... If Sosuke wasn't played by a JE boy or similar, the ratings wouldn't have been so high, nor would the story have been altered to try to humanize him...


Actually, I second that motion with the comment of my friend...
"Why didn't you tell me Ryo was in the drama??"
"I did... when you mentioned JE some... time. Doesn't matter, go watch for Juri."
"well, you shoulda pressure me to watch it more. Ryo's so hot, but I can't believe he's the bad guy! You better tell me he's redeemed in the end."

le sigh.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:06 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

siutou_amy wrote:
bmwracer wrote:
rukaxmichiru wrote:
bmwracer wrote:
Ladymercury wrote:
Don't under estimate his acting in this drama, it was his acting that attracted nearly EVERYONE to this drama.

Every fangirl, you mean. Tongue


LOL! It wasn''t his acting that attracted everyone, it was just him being in there. Glare I bet if he was like some sub character that didn't do anything at all peoplewould still watch for him. bleh.

Yup, that's what I think as well... If Sosuke wasn't played by a JE boy or similar, the ratings wouldn't have been so high, nor would the story have been altered to try to humanize him...


Actually, I second that motion with the comment of my friend...
"Why didn't you tell me Ryo was in the drama??"
"I did... when you mentioned JE some... time. Doesn't matter, go watch for Juri."
"well, you shoulda pressure me to watch it more. Ryo's so hot, but I can't believe he's the bad guy! You better tell me he's redeemed in the end."

le sigh.

Your friend got her wish, thanks to the scriptwriter... Nuts!?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:01 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Yes, because all JE fans are the same way *rolls eyes*

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ladymercury, ur avatar pic is so cute. did u draw it yourself?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:48 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

No, one of my hilariously awesome friends did.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:54 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Ladymercury wrote:
No, one of my hilariously awesome friends did.


that's so nice! ask your friend to draw more haha thumright
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"nice" avatar Ladymercury...i guess those scenes of DV appealed to some...
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Ooh, yeah, time for my Sousuke/Ryo bash!

I don't think Ryo did a terrible job in this drama. I think he did the best he could with the crap he was given. Sousuke was the catalyst for all of the action in LF, yet that character was the least well-written! HUH? Irritation abounds!

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Why give us all these sympathy scenes with no conclusion? We just get this hackneyed background story that Sousuke's mom was a bit of a ho and neglected him. Well, where did he learn that violence was the answer? How am I supposed to feel sympathy for someone I haven't been taught how to understand? Sousuke could have been a really damn interesting character. Instead he was just like a paint-by-numbers kiddy story villain. WEAK.

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Why give us all these sympathy scenes with no conclusion? We just get this hackneyed background story that Sousuke's mom was a bit of a ho and neglected him. Well, where did he learn that violence was the answer? How am I supposed to feel sympathy for someone I haven't been taught how to understand? Sousuke could have been a really damn interesting character. Instead he was just like a paint-by-numbers kiddy story villain. WEAK.



I agree with you there, I think the writers just got caught up in the LAST FRIENDS IS THE HOTTEST FREAKIN DRAMA OF THE SEASON spill and just focused, on what was hot and forgot that, you know, character development. Out of all the characters, the only one who remotely got the most development was Ruka -- Everyone else was just there.

I am really lost on Eri's purpose as a character, she felt as important as Ogurin which isn't saying much.

Oh well, what can we do, ne? I'll just pretend eps 10, 11, 11.5 barely existed because you'd think the writing be better, instead, I felt it was the worst. Copouts abound, everyone! Wasted over dramatic scenes that prove no relevance to the plotline! Whoo hoo!

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"nice" avatar Ladymercury...i guess those scenes of DV appealed to some...


Have sarcasm, embrace it Roll Eyes

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 3:32 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Hey I have a question.....I usually watch Last Friends using Kiouku's versions. But their ep. 10 is not out yet and I'm DYING to know what's going to happen in the last episode. I see there are other versions to download, but I need english subtitles. Do any of these other versions have subtitles? or are they all RAW versions? Like, Last Friends EP10 (704x396 Divx6).avi or Last Friends ep10 (1280x720 DivX6.xx). Do either have subs?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:17 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

There's... soft subs....

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:57 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

zeiroc:

i said ''nice'' not because i approved of DV.
what i mean with ''nice'' really supposed to mean ''cute drawing''.
as in the cartoon itself how it was drawn!

sorry my english is not that good.
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