Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:52 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
DeAngel999 wrote:
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Well based on previous nominations, it seems that one drama can only have ONE lead actor and actress nomination. If that's the case, then Masami would be slotted for best actress nomination, Juri best supporting actress, and Eita or Ryo for best supporting actor. They can't both be nominated for best supporting actor, so either one might get a best actor nom?
Now that makes me realize. Masami's name is listed above Juri's name in the cast list in Wikiaddicts. So that makes sense for Masami to be the lead actress. But somehow to me (I guess.. to most of everyone here) , Juri's acting is just super and took over Masami's acting. I would be mad if Juri gains nothing from this
It'll be a shame if Masami gets a nomination for Best Actress, when most people I've seen were in the drama for Juri's portrayal of Ruka. I don't really know how this award show in specific works, but I would think both Masami and Juri are top billing. If in fact this is the case, then producers of the show should be smart enough to push Juri for the Best Actress, instead of Masami.
And I agree with previous comments that Ryo, and Sousuke overall, wasn't very much interesting as character. He's neither a cool villain, nor a person you could really care for even if he was bad. But yeah, loads of fan girls fuming and swooning over him (including a friend of mine).
I haven't seen any dramas of this season, but I would put Eita for a supporting role. LOL This has been an odd drama to watch~~ If Michiru was to be our main pull, they've failed because my fave characters/interpretations are as followed:
Juri/Ruka
Eita/Takeru
Asami/Eri - even though she didn't have much to do... I still wonder, does anyone know if anyone's posted Eri My Love?
and it's a tie between Masami/Michiru with Ryo/Sousuke
I've gone fangirl on Juri.... I so want her photobook with the pretty photos. *must save money*
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:05 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
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Or Ryo--all he had to do was look creepy, which is actually quite natural to his face.
Are you serious? It took Ryo a lot more than making "creepy" faces to pull that character off. Don't under estimate his acting in this drama, it was his acting that attracted nearly EVERYONE to this drama.
Yeah, it's hard to underestimate his acting in that drama, simply because it was so low I can't go any lower.
Really, he did well for what he was given, but he was given so little that I find it hard to believe it was his acting that attracted anyone outside of his fans, let alone "nearly everyone."
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:17 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
I am not a Ryo "fan", though I do know of him because he happens to be in the boyband I like the most.
Anyway, I felt his acting to be superb and compared to what I have seen him in, he really proved to me that he can handle a role of this caliber. I guess no one paid attention during that scene, that final scene, that he and Masami share. That confusion, that anger, and hurt and pain. The way his body shakes, how he was crying.
You can hate his character all you want but don't detract that from his acting abilities from tackling such a character.
Don't take what dues are due.
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:27 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
The way the writers kept on plugging in "sympathy scenes" for Ryo obviously showed that they wanted to paint him as a scarred, scared, and pitiable character. They didn't want him to be a literal bad guy, just someone misunderstood and unable to love properly I suppose. However, all he was able to do was straight up meanness (that's certainly putting it lightly). Had they removed all those unnecessary scenes trying to explain how Ryo's actions were a result of past trauma, and that last scene of his with the letter (man that was such fan service), I would have agreed that he did a great job being a villain. But, as you can see with how much people ended up hating his character, despite the fact the writers tried to make him less detestable (and trying to draw sympathy), well, I suppose he failed.
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:59 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
But if people hated his character, how did he fail as an actor. His character was the villian, his character was DESIGNED to be hated. Thus he played the role well to even get his precious fangirls to be fearful of him.
I don't think people understand what I am trying to say here. Getting people to like you DOESN'T make you a GOOD actor. It takes a lot more effort to put fear and hatred in someone than it takes to make someone like you.
Meh.
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:09 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
bmwracer wrote:
Ladymercury wrote:
Don't under estimate his acting in this drama, it was his acting that attracted nearly EVERYONE to this drama.
Every fangirl, you mean.
LOL! It wasn''t his acting that attracted everyone, it was just him being in there. I bet if he was like some sub character that didn't do anything at all peoplewould still watch for him. bleh.
EVEN THOUGH he is in my favorite JE group... NEWS, it doesn't affect the fact that Ryo, in my opinion, lacks in the field of acting...
And, I don't think that one good scene of acting at the end is enough to pull him up to a Best actor nomination.
You gotta look at everything as a whole, like in the scene where Juri hit him with the lamp, his reaction and fall was kinda awkward and slow
Juri should get best actress and Eita should get best actor
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:26 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
rukaxmichiru wrote:
bmwracer wrote:
Ladymercury wrote:
Don't under estimate his acting in this drama, it was his acting that attracted nearly EVERYONE to this drama.
Every fangirl, you mean.
LOL! It wasn''t his acting that attracted everyone, it was just him being in there. I bet if he was like some sub character that didn't do anything at all peoplewould still watch for him. bleh.
EVEN THOUGH he is in my favorite JE group... NEWS, it doesn't affect the fact that Ryo, in my opinion, lacks in the field of acting...
And, I don't think that one good scene of acting at the end is enough to pull him up to a Best actor nomination.
You gotta look at everything as a whole, like in the scene where Juri hit him with the lamp, his reaction and fall was kinda awkward and slow
Juri should get best actress and Eita should get best actor
that's what i thought too. i mean that was supposed to be the most anticipating scene cause we all wanted to know what happened to ruka and when she hit him with the lamp it was like hell yea...but then you look over at ryo and it's like ok my scene is done i can rest now. i seriously only pay close attention to the DV scenes because I want to see how in the world are those realistic. yea i understand that ryo didn't want to hit a girl but you gotta play the part or else don't take it. i'm not a fangirl of his and have never listened to his music so this is all base on his acting of sousake.
at first it was interesting for a good guy to turn evil in a matter of one ep but after that it was pretty much all evil. it's easy to just play one part but hard to show both good and bad and making it believable but sadly he was just bad. i've watched a lot of evil/crazy characters but i still love them because their acting was superb. ryo was only ok to me.
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:40 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
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it's easy to just play one part but hard to show both good and bad and making it believable but sadly he was just bad.
But when was there ever an opportunity, besides the first and last episode, for him to show a side of kindness? Honestly? I blame the writers for not giving "Sousuke" more depth beyond scary wife beater stalking and beating the **** out of everyone, cept Eri, in the share house.
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You gotta look at everything as a whole, like in the scene where Juri hit him with the lamp, his reaction and fall was kinda awkward and slow
Is that all? You base all of his poor acting over one scene in episode 10? What about the other 9 episodes that he was in? What about that FINAL season in episode 10? His facial expressions in the first scene, the scissor scene of episode 3 (or was it 2?). The way he would be nice one minute to Michiru and a monster the next. Did this all fly by everyone?
I am no way a Ryo Nishikido fan, but putting this against what other acting performances I have seen him in and what I saw in Last Friends, given what he had, he convinced me more than Eita's " I was molested as a child and have sexual and social issues ".
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:03 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
wow now u gonna slam Eita bcoz other people slam Ryo acting.....
i like Ryo but no way his acting is better than Eita...beside as u said it the writer fault not to develop more of Ryo character and also Eita storyline....if Eita given more material to act with his storyline would be much memorable but he have done superb acting with the little material given.....
this thread become brutal today lol with everyone to prove their own point when the actors themselve get along so wel lol:(
i hope when i come back again this thread gonna have more positive discussion than keep fighting bout the same thing over and over again lol...
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:04 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
bmwracer wrote:
siutou_amy wrote:
I would be mad if Juri gains nothing from this
Be ready to get mad: the way the writers altered the story for ratings, they'll end up giving an award to Mr. DV....
I'm neither Nishikido Ryo's hater nor a fan of his. but that would be yuck if Juri gets nothing while he got the praises. He did alright, but it wouldn't be fair if he's the only one who got recognized.
No offence for his fangirls, but seriously, it's really sad when popularity beats everything (including talent).
I mean, I wonder if people will still praise Sousuke's actor if he were played by a fat, bald, full of beard dude who could cry and beating up people as Nishikido Ryo did. *roll eyes*
This is why I wish every interesting drama doesn't include any JE boys.
Cause in the end, they always be the heroes.
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:09 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
Now although i like Ryo Nishikido as an actor especially after watching him for the first time in 1 Litre of Tears, to compare him with Eita (either character wise in LF or their acting skills) I very much PREFER Eita's in both areas this time. And i really think Eita would've earned the Best Actor award more than him (IF they were nominated anyway).
Yes, maybe the writers are to be blamed for giving such lousy story for sousuke or even Takeru, and didn't touch in depth of their pasts which leads to their present nature. Still, Eita managed to showcase the character's traumatic expression very well and convincing. Whereas for Sousuke (Ryo) sometimes i find he just wasn't as convincing. but nevertheless, i like that fact that he took up this villain role, at least, it's something different from the ones he had before.
I also agree with almost everyone here who thinks Juri should win best actress more than Masami. She totally surpasses her ANYTIME, ANYWHERE, without doubt. That's a fact. So, if Juri doesn't win it and Masami did, i know i wouldn't be the only one mad.
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:11 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
Too lazy to think of all the instances, but the writers didn't create Sousuke to be hated, as I mentioned earlier. If that was their purpose, he did a great job then. Which I also mentioned earlier.
Sympathy scenes:
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Playing with the mommy-less kid
Saving the kid from the train
The last letter thingy to Michiru
Everytime Michiru insisted Sousuke loved her blablabla ("This rape baby is a gift" WTF)
Making him seem pitiful instead of evil - he waited outside in the rain instead of banging on the door--much more realistic for an "evil dude"
I'm sure there were others but I've only watched it once so I don't remember the others. The parts with the kid were totally unnecessary if they didn't want to make Sousuke a more sympathy-worthy character. Like I said, if those parts were removed, he would have succeeded in being the bad guy by being hated. But with all the scenes where they try to redeem him and make him seem like a nice guy inside, well, it just didn't work. Everyone still ended up despising his character.
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I would be mad if Juri gains nothing from this 
I bet if he was like some sub character that didn't do anything at all peoplewould still watch for him. bleh.
