Fansubber Guidelines Rev 2 (Draft)

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:17 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

i'm referring to the same thing...
hana yori dango, yukan club to name some semi-recent ones...
and several versions of the same show hardsubbed by different groups have indeed been allowed for over a year... Smile

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:21 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:27 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

those have also been allowed before...
the focus of the revision is that groups won't have any claiming rights to the series, so it doesn't matter who announced first, etc...
moving away from the idea of "project ownership" more firmly i guess you could say...
it would seem that in a lot of cases, this change hadn't sunk in yet...

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:31 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:41 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

currently, softsub threads are supposed to be shared... i agreed in my previous post that not giving each individual subber the means to update at will in their own thread is less than ideal... i would favor combining the threads after the show is completed though; everybody i think will have had their time to interact with their fans and it makes the thread count more manageable for mods and people searching for subs...

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:52 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

i still can't agree. you will cause groups to start fighting to get the first thread out so that they will have control over the thread and secure their softsubs the first post position.

you risk groups putting out "placemarker" threads so that they can get top spot....and people arguing within one thread which groups subs are better than the others.

because you know there will be newbies who will ask "there are three different sets of softsubs here, which one is the best?" having it in one thread basically flaunts to the others "these softsubs are more downloaded than yours" "these softsubs are better than yours"...

at least with them being separated, nobody is up in each others faces. because even when a series is done...it sometimes doesn't end there...what about specials? what about extras? you have to allow people their own space

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:53 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:57 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

with a new thread that is no longer under their control, groups can no longer update subs or fix problems that they missed, add files, or remove their own subs without pestering a mod to do it for them.

merging the softsubs threads is a disaster waiting to happen

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:02 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

I like groink's idea better about mods creating a separate, new thread.

I agree with battlegirlai that merging threads would be disastrous.

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:04 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

groink might be on the right track there though for a decent compromise...
and asking a mod to post up revisions later once the series is over is not as terrible as having to ask for every single episode to be posted...
we could also allow for a certain period of time after the subs are completed before we open a new thread with just the subs in them...
as for the download count, that's really no different than the tracker stats for hardsubs, it's all public for those that care to look...

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:16 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

but its not totally rubbing it directly in each others faces every time you go to check on the status of your own work...theres a difference.

and yes...pming a mod for every little change will become annoying not just for the fansubbers, but for the mods, i'll wager. we can immediately fix things ourselves as things are now...from small things a simple as a misspelled name, to completely removing all the subs. you'd be effectively cutting off the majority of control we have over our subs after they are done.

and some groups put their personality into their softsub threads. they take the time to make banners and screencaps and have links of interest and such...combining it all into one thread where you don't know who is talking about whose subs...ugh

double and triple ugh.

can one or two extra threads really be so hard for the mods to deal with? maybe i'm not properly understanding the reasoning behind wanting to merge them.

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:22 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Mods must also take into account that some of these fansubs will go MIA. So, I think it's not wise to wait for everyone to finish subbing before creating a new thread. This makes me believe that crosslinking / crosslisting the subs is a more suitable compromise.

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:27 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

So if we are going to be putting all versions of softsubs in one thread will we also be batching every version of hardsubs in one torrent as well? That will remove extra threads too.