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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:52 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

i think if the choice for Zettai Kareshi got down to jdrama fans between a pro sars fansub and a newly formed group i think no doubt most people would go with the sars fansub version ...

but as furransu said .. i think you should do a joint project to get started and get in touch with other groups to get their opinion on such presumed partnership .. or if you're really determined to do a solo project you can go to the fansub wiki >> jdrama section and check out what project you can take on .. maybe you can do one of the projects that haven't been picked or maybe you could choose to continue a project that was dropped



go to the following link and search through all the drama's
http://fansub.d-addicts.com/Jdrama_Fansub_Map

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:02 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Wow! I'm so glad to hear this because there just aren't enough fansubbing groups out there already...

Why isn't anyone picking up the shows that haven't been subbed yet? If you check the map there's plenty of drama territory to piss on if you are serious about subbing.

Check it out: http://fansub.d-addicts.com/Jdrama_Fansub_Map_2008#Spring_2008
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:13 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

u should help querbeet subs translate Osen, Osen has a "Johnnys".. and a good storyline Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:14 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

there really isn't any point trying to make them sub what they don't have the enthusiasm for...
if you leave them alone and let them sub what they want to in peace, maybe the fansubbing bug will stick and they'll pick up one of the strays next time around, who knows... Smile

@BlueMidnightBaroque & Getsugatnsho:
the d-a rules do state you should begin at episode one, but i suppose if the translator for the first softsub episode doesn't mind, you could continue his single sub since he won't be making any more... or perhaps he'd be willing to spot translate with you guys?
if you can come to an agreement, you could also post your softsubs in the same thread...

i would ask though that you consider that some people only download softsubs and maybe strive to make them as accurate as possible and not just a quick fix until hardsubs come out?

@gnossienneslent: is there such a thing as too many subbers? we've been trying to encourage more people to give to the community all along, so why should we always swoop down on new people this way? i do believe new subbers benefit from a stint with established groups and there are several groups out there who could use help with their enormous project loads, but in the case of zettai kareshi, people who don't download hardsubs will appreciate these softsubs...

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:12 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

@ ironicwave Don't get me wrong dear. I would love to see more groups out there subbing. I think Randomsubs is a new group that is really doing well and getting things done. It would be great to have so many that everyone jumps on a show just to have on and groups compete to see who can produce the best subs. *cue dramatic gladiator-type music* Rivalry is the lifeblood of quality.

Seriously though this is a heck of a list:

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I think if you have a few people together that's fine, but there are enough groups recruiting that someone who can time or encode could get work with them. As you said a stint with a group would do them good.

And I second the point about quality. No doubt it would be beneficial to have a good set of soft-subs out there for people who've already downloaded the file.

@Getsugatnsho: Heck if you can time, SARS has a recruiting thread for that and you just might end up working on Zettai Kareshi for them, though I imagine they have someone for that by now. Check it out: http://www.sars-fansubs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=807 They sell mugs and T-shirts. It doesn't get much more established than that.


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haha, i can't say i don't appreciate your style, your posts are usually a very entertaining read and i agree with the spirit and content of a lot of them... Whistling
but i think you can tell by the reactions of new want to be subbers in threads like these that the "swoop" tends to be very discouraging...
i just don't believe in trying to pressure people into doing things they don't want to do and i know for a fact that working on a series that really interests you is much more likely to make you stick for the long haul...

dedication to quality, reliability and so forth are qualities in subbers you can wish for, but not enforce on d-addicts, more's the pity... Laugh
but these are also qualities that can't be judged from the outset, so everyone deserves a fair shake and i just like to see them have the breathing room for take off...
and by the by, we do have a timer for this series at sars already... Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:30 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

gnossienneslent wrote:
Wow! I'm so glad to hear this because there just aren't enough fansubbing groups out there already...

You should've warned me before I read that statement while sipping on a can of Coke. You WERE kidding, right? Over 100 fansubbing groups registered on the Fansub Wiki and there STILL aren't enough?

gnossienneslent wrote:
Why isn't anyone picking up the shows that haven't been subbed yet? If you check the map there's plenty of drama territory to piss on if you are serious about subbing.


I'll tell you why:

Mito Komon - too many old people. Too many people wearing kimono. And the men look like sumo wrestlers, again wearing kimono. And no idols.

Aibo 6 - too many old people. No idols.

Keishicho Sosa Ikka 9 Gakari - Watase Tsunehiko stars in it. Old. No idols.

Shukan Maki Yoko - FINALLY something starring someone younger than 30. But it wasn't a manga or anime in its earlier day.

Shichinin no Onna Bengoshi - It is about lawyers. Lawyers are not funny.

Wataru Seken wa Oni Bakari - OLD PEOPLE TO THE MAX!!!!!! Aaaaaah, but there is actually ONE JOHNNY in this, but he just spends all his time in the back at Okakura watching Daikichi stirring something in a bowl, while Nagako continues to whine about her mother-in-law. And those looooooong monologues.... 52 episodes of it!

Don't take my comments seriously. HOWEVER, they do actually depict the thought process of most fansubbers. And in more ways than one, the thoughts I joked about actually do break a show's possibility of being a project. As I've said in many other topics here, the fansubbers have total control of what the non-nihongo speaking leechers watch. And it is too bad. But, the young people are the ones who have the time to fansub, while us old farts need to tend to other things like children, 60 hours/week of work, etc.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:57 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

ironicwave wrote:
@BlueMidnightBaroque & Getsugatnsho:
the d-a rules do state you should begin at episode one, but i suppose if the translator for the first softsub episode doesn't mind, you could continue his single sub since he won't be making any more...


Absolutely. I don't have any problem with that. You can totally sub from episode 2 onwards.

Just open up a new thread. If you haven't done ep 1 yet you can use mine in your thread as well. You can also fix my translation and timing if you find anything awkward. Just give me credit if you do so. Smile
I would highly appreciate it, since I really don't have the time to go on subbing this, unfortunately.


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^ ok that clears everything up. You can continue on with Zettai Kareshi from ep2 since Justex have let you do it xD
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@ groink *giggles* Glad I could help you clear your sinuses. A long time ago my sarcasm got cranked up to high and someone ripped off the knob. So far I've managed to not to get banned while berating new fansubbing groups and stalkers, I mean online 'friends'. I'm sure at some point I'll do something to warrant a reprimand.

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Mito Komon - too many old people. Too many people wearing kimono. And the men look like sumo wrestlers, again wearing kimono. And no idols.

Aibo 6 - too many old people. No idols.

Keishicho Sosa Ikka 9 Gakari - Watase Tsunehiko stars in it. Old. No idols.

Shukan Maki Yoko - FINALLY something starring someone younger than 30. But it wasn't a manga or anime in its earlier day.

Shichinin no Onna Bengoshi - It is about lawyers. Lawyers are not funny.

Wataru Seken wa Oni Bakari - OLD PEOPLE TO THE MAX!!!!!! Aaaaaah, but there is actually ONE JOHNNY in this, but he just spends all his time in the back at Okakura watching Daikichi stirring something in a bowl, while Nagako continues to whine about her mother-in-law. And those looooooong monologues.... 52 episodes of it!


Well, I thought Bengoshi no Kuzu was rather funny and Hero wasn't bad either, but generally speaking, yes, TV lawyers aren't much fun.

I'm sure that sex appeal plays a role in a show being chosen for subbing. Old people aren't considered sexy, yet the Rolling Stones still manage to go on tour wearing the same style clothes they wore 40 years ago. Bit of a mystery. Seeing as your nick starts with the word groin, I'm sure I didn't have to go to the trouble to spell all that out though. What this does mean is that there are a lot of material out there for the right group. If someone were to start a group called, say Geriatric Fart Subs, they would have the potential to rival any group out there. 芽むしり仔撃ち might be a good alternative metaphorically.

@ ironicwave I guess I'm just not the cheerleader type.

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but these are also qualities that can't be judged from the outset, so everyone deserves a fair shake and i just like to see them have the breathing room for take off...


I'm pretty sure that you aren't supposed to shake babies, but the doctor always gives them a good smack on the ass to make sure they are breathing. Shots are painful and medicine is bitter. Eventually some cute little nurse (or someone with an equivalent avatar) will come along and give them a lollypop.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:19 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

gnossienneslent wrote:
I'm pretty sure that you aren't supposed to shake babies, but the doctor always gives them a good smack on the ass to make sure they are breathing.

unless of course they wail loudly enough to make it obvious they are... Smile
a forum tends to harbor all sorts of types, cheerleaders and smart asses included, the term moderator kind of implies which way the wind will blow from there...

@Justex: thanks... i see you guys have it covered... salut

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gnossienneslent ... you're one funny chick .. i could read your reply 100 times and i would still get a kick out of it .. i like your sense of humour Big Smile

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Chick? *grits teeth, then sighs*

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gnossienneslent wrote:
Chick? *grits teeth, then sighs*

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the rule has been changed.. http://d-addicts.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1018548

now BlueMidnightBaroque and/or Getsugatnsho could do Zettai Kareshi freely.. the new rule basically says anyone could do any series they want, doesnt matter if another group is doing it already... Smile

So I hope you guys could continue on with Zettai Kareshi softsubs xD
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