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groinkLocation: Hawaii Age: 41 Gender: Male |
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:54 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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As I've indicated before, I think it is a bandwidth saturation issue and not just file sharing. There's no way in fricking hell that 166GB a day consists of legal downloading. Even in the worst scenario, if they were downloading RAW Blu-ray discs (26 to 52GB per disc), they would have to stay up 20 hours a day just to watch what they download. They're treating their bandwidth like how they fish for blue fin tuna - they're grabbing a LOT more than they can eat. I mean, why buy videos or download free videos that you'll never watch? In a vacuum environment with no gravity, things can happen. But c'mon! The quantity of bandwidth being burned here just does not add up.
I don't think the ISPs will lock down certain protocols or ports. Like Comcast in America, I believe they're going to start throttling to piss off the abusers or sending people notices on overuse. The KEY point to make here is that ALL the ISPs in Japan are in on this plan. In America, ISPs are as common as McDonalds restaurants. The Japanese don't have that many ISPs to choose from.
--- groink
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Illanair Joined: 22 Mar 2008 Total posts: 66 Location: Denmark Age: 20 Gender: Male |
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pacman99 Joined: 30 Sep 2005 Total posts: 33 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:49 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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not sure if this has been mentioned before but even though japanese ISPs will be attempting to track down users sharing dramas, one should realize that this won't really stop the spread of japanese tv online. For one, like american tv, japanese and korean shows/dramas are part of the same underground network that brings us all pirated games, apps etc online. They all use SSL (ftp & irc) on weird ports, changing servers if one becomes a threat. From there stuff is leaked to newsgroups and then eventually p2p.
While users of popular p2p programs might not be able to find them as readily, there will still be a way to download them if you look hard enough.
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LoveWillB4U Joined: 04 May 2006 Total posts: 47 Location: Hawaii Gender: Male |
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:07 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| Just out of curiousity... they are only banning p2p in Japan right? So why don't you contact someone you trust outside of Japan or make a friend outside of Japan and send whatever you need to that person directly. That person can then use p2p since he is outside of Japan. What he wants to host and use p2p for is his own thing since he is outside of Japan.
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:44 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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I also read the news. They said in Japanese "p2p file sharing software such as Winny", so it does not mean only Winny is being targeted. A lot of Japanese are using clients like bitTorrent and FlashGet. There is even a book (in japanese) sold about it, I mean about what client to use and which sites to download from.
About cutting off and throttling, I have experienced it. Each time I download something, then after a while, my internet connection would be cut off. I mentioned about it in a chat with Hadmish in my old HP. It happened again and again. However, since about more or less a month ago, I noticed that it never happened anymore, which made me wonder and worry at the same time, I felt as if maybe they were up to something and perhaps would jump on me some day. With the news of banning, now the puzzle came to light. They are indeed up to something! And I don't even download japanese stuff except the video of the dorama I was subbing because I would need it to sub. Actually I would prefer to avoid downloading anything Japanese. Infringing on copyright is regarded as criminal in Japan, we face 5 years in jail, and/or 5.000.000 yen, or both.
As to subtitling, it doesn't look good either, after the round-up of some pirates who sold pirate DVDs in Osaka last year, the police is looking for the subtitler who subbed from English into Japanese, with the charge of being an accomplice to pirates (reported by Yomiuri). Speculations said that he is a man called Anal Danshaku (Baron Anal), a Japanese man who is said to be a medical student or trainee physician. Before subbing by himself, he used to collaborate with an American who called himself "Bob" to sub western movies including Spiderman, Matrix, etc. People say that his arrest might be imminent if police can find a proof that it was him and if they can find who he really is. According to police, the subtitler/s used different names in the pirated DVDs, but employing linguists to analyze the use of language, police in Osaka concluded that the subtitles were the work of the same man. For Winny and other 2p2 users, Anal Danshaku seem to be a hero, because he released the Japanese subtitles of American movies even before the movie is shown in Japan, so they said the police are crazy and stupid to do this. Nothing is heard anymore of Anal Danshaku, he might have stopped subbing, or have gone underground.
Some report about him by Zakzak:
http://www.zakzak.co.jp/tsui-sat/tsuiseki/contents/2003_04-09/030809_02.html
and wikipedia:
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%A2%E3%83%8A%E3%83%AB%E7%94%B7%E7%88%B5
Anyway, it is just some info on the situation in Japan. April 1st will start in less than 24 hours from now  _________________ Bye bye and thanks for everything.
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waniey_vic Joined: 15 Jul 2007 Total posts: 209 Location: TemerLove ~ AkihaBara Age: 21 Gender: Female |
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:38 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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all we can do is wait and see.. i think... but i do not want to miss Gokusen 3 at all.. if there's no more room for torrents from japan here in d-addicts as they banned files sharers, it will really affect me.. in my country, it takes really long time to watch latest jdrama. e.g nodame cantabile.. aired in my country only at the end of last year.. so slow.. this situation also same with buying jdrama DVD. if you want DVD for korean drama, you can get it anyway - even the latest one here in my hometown (maybe 2,3 month after the final episode). but for jdrama, there's no way you can get the latest one. you have to wait 1 year for that.
i wish this will not affect d-addicts.. because jdrama is part of my life...
i dont want part of me taken away... owh... i'm so sad.. i hope this is only April Fool's joke.. huhuhu..._________________ THX all Fansubbers..
SALUTE TO D-ADDICTS ..
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Illanair Joined: 22 Mar 2008 Total posts: 66 Location: Denmark Age: 20 Gender: Male |
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wlben Joined: 06 Oct 2005 Total posts: 29 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:01 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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sad day for file sharers
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doink-chan Joined: 17 May 2005 Total posts: 317 Location: The happy land of doinks Age: 19 Gender: Female |
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waniey_vic Joined: 15 Jul 2007 Total posts: 209 Location: TemerLove ~ AkihaBara Age: 21 Gender: Female |
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:57 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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YEAH... hmm, should we be happy or what? teeeheee..._________________ THX all Fansubbers..
SALUTE TO D-ADDICTS ..
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