Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:19 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0
This can't be the end can it?! :o I'm so gonna cry when this will really be the end. I was surprised that the final episode wasn't longer then the others ... :S And omg ... But there must be more .... Becasue they just can't let it end like this! xD
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:57 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
seriously, it can't end like this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
there must be a sp, or a movie, ...anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
please if someone knows about a continuation let me know!!
I'm really going nuts
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:09 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
ahhhhhh..im still downloading da final episode....cant wait babe...
i really like J n my guy MIURA HARUMA...he's too cool..i mean both them too cool n interesting..
ahha
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:31 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0
Awesome actors in this one! Gosh, there's so many of them in this drama that I adore and love, not to mention Sato and Miura! *__* (heck, Saori was really pretty as well!)
Though I loved and hated the ending of it
Will the movie be the ending for this or any chance *hopefully* a season 2?
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This was so unexpected! I mean, I never expected Maya and J actually managed to run away. And the butterfly guy is still alive!! wasn't he killed by Maya?
And that justice grandpa guy, was he the one that contacted and hired Maya? oh my goshhh
This is so frustrating and exciting on the same time. ><
Really disappointed though that it was so short and such a "????" ending.
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:00 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0
Did anyone find discrepancies in the drama?
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1. Kujo said her mom left the cult 2 years earlier I think but seems she commited suicide cuz the head of the cult got captured.. But then, why did Kujo blame the grandfather for her death earlier? If she left the cult and she killed herself, why is the grandfather to blame?
2. Maya was in Germany or where ever when they killed those people in church. Last episode says the peeps in the church were actually killed by a neutron bomb. How did Maya escape if everyone died? She's has immunity to neutron bomb? Or was the video tampered with and she was never there?
3. How does the grandfather know Kujo is not the cult leader's son while J is? It looks like the mom was still associating with the cult leader since she committed suicide cuz he was captured. And from Kujo's interrogation, he said he asked his mom and she said she isn't with the cult anymore. Did she leave before Kujo was born. If so, why would Kujo know she was in a cult before that he would ask her. I was little blurred while watching cuz I was sleepy.
4. If K intended to release the neutron bomb or the virus, why plant herself into the school to get close to Falcon. It wasn't like she was that close to falcon that he would tell her what he found out. I can understand Maya and maybe J. Maya had to ruin his laptop and keep an eye on him to see if he found out any info. As for J, well he was probably doing it for kicks.
5. I don't know if the actress for K is bad or if it's intentional but her facial expression seemed expressionless. She didn't look like she was crazy or anything. Even during the confrontation with Falcon. She seemed expressionless. Maybe it's bad acting or did the manga character for K look expressionless too?
6. The grandfather seems odd. He erased J from the family registry but kept Kujo. Then who is the one who paid Maya the money and told her to get out of the country? The grandfather? I thought it was J at first but then there's been so many double crossing and triple crossing, I don't know who she is actually working for.
7. Why did Falcon help K get out? K was going to get captured but end up escaping.
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:01 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
LissyLamoire wrote:
This can't be the end can it?! :o I'm so gonna cry when this will really be the end. I was surprised that the final episode wasn't longer then the others ... :S And omg ... But there must be more .... Becasue they just can't let it end like this! xD
Hi.. I agree with you
in the first half part of the final ep. I was like ( wow )
but then like ( hmmm ) many things weren't explained well really
specially Maya's actions OMG
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:02 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
seirin wrote:
Did anyone find discrepancies in the drama?
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1. Kujo said her mom left the cult 2 years earlier I think but seems she commited suicide cuz the head of the cult got captured.. But then, why did Kujo blame the grandfather for her death earlier? If she left the cult and she killed herself, why is the grandfather to blame?
2. Maya was in Germany or where ever when they killed those people in church. Last episode says the peeps in the church were actually killed by a neutron bomb. How did Maya escape if everyone died? She's has immunity to neutron bomb? Or was the video tampered with and she was never there?
3. How does the grandfather know Kujo is not the cult leader's son while J is? It looks like the mom was still associating with the cult leader since she committed suicide cuz he was captured. And from Kujo's interrogation, he said he asked his mom and she said she isn't with the cult anymore. Did she leave before Kujo was born. If so, why would Kujo know she was in a cult before that he would ask her. I was little blurred while watching cuz I was sleepy.
4. If K intended to release the neutron bomb or the virus, why plant herself into the school to get close to Falcon. It wasn't like she was that close to falcon that he would tell her what he found out. I can understand Maya and maybe J. Maya had to ruin his laptop and keep an eye on him to see if he found out any info. As for J, well he was probably doing it for kicks.
5. I don't know if the actress for K is bad or if it's intentional but her facial expression seemed expressionless. She didn't look like she was crazy or anything. Even during the confrontation with Falcon. She seemed expressionless. Maybe it's bad acting or did the manga character for K look expressionless too?
6. The grandfather seems odd. He erased J from the family registry but kept Kujo. Then who is the one who paid Maya the money and told her to get out of the country? The grandfather? I thought it was J at first but then there's been so many double crossing and triple crossing, I don't know who she is actually working for.
7. Why did Falcon help K get out? K was going to get captured but end up escaping.
you aretotally right and I will add this:
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8- How and why did the police trust Maya and let her go back easily?
9- Was J also planning to kill Kamishima Shimon? if so, then why did they help him to get out of the jail? and went to all that trouble!!
10- Why didn't Takagi kill K directly? why going to many places while he knows that she is K!!!!!
11- Why did K let Maya go ?
12- What was exactly the relationship between K's death and the bomb?
and why did she ask Falcon if he will be happy or sad !! the Q seemed totally odd!
13- How is she going to be the god in the case of the bomb? I mean there is no cure this time I guess! not like Bloody-X and the Anti-Bloody X ne!
14. I thought that there would be a relationship between Minami and Yasuda Yukiko! because after her death Minami said something like: this wasn't anyone this was Yasuda Yukiko ..
anyway I enjoyed 10 episodes and a half so this was one of my FAV dramas of course
andl it seems that Haruma is going to take a break this season, but he deserves it *liked his real tears when he was with his sis at the end*
So, Cast did very well:
Miura Haruma (Falcon)
Matsushige Yutaka (Kano)
Yoshizawa Hisashi (Kirishima)
Narimiya Hiroki (J)
Cast wasn't very good:
Tokunaga Eri (K) for being expressionless
Kichise Michiko (Maya) for being confident all the time!!
Kawashima Umika (Haruka) for being unreadable and scary in some situations!
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:48 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
I can only guess.. (and I hope I managed to make sense)
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1) I don't think Kujo would know for sure what her mother was up to. Whether she really did leave the sect or not.. (and if so, WHEN exactly she left.. 2 years ago or before Kujo's birth?) whether she committed suicide because the cult leader was captured/the terrorist attack failed or because she realized she was in love/had a relationship with an actual terrorist (Or maybe because J was already involved with the terrorist attack 2 years ago? And she thought she failed as a mother? I don't remember was J involved 2 years ago?) As for Kujo blaming his grandfather? He doesn't really have anyone else to blame. Maybe he was blaming him for letting the mother getting involved with the sect in the first place?
2) Well according to the video the bomb went off before Maya entering the church, right? So she wasn't there during the actual explosion.. But I really have no idea how this works..
3) That's a good question. I doubt they did a DNA test, though it's not impossible, even if in secret.
4) I think K wanted to f*** with Takagi's head by getting as close to him as possible, making him care for her. And mind you, they did end up using Takagi to free the cult leader by kidnapping them and that's because K was close enough to Takagi to be with them and to be able to inject Hide with the virus somehow and control the situation more or less (she almost managed to get rid of the anti-virus (the pen), too, didn't she?).
5) What's wrong with expressionless? A psycho won't necessarily will run around screaming she's mad. I think there was nothing wrong with her being expressionless. Sure K's character was a bit colorless compared to other villains in the drama, but I don't think it was the fault of the actress.
6) I guess the father kept Kujo because he wasn't the son of the cult leader (at least the grandfather seemed to assume so, and everyone else, as well) In a position like his, he cannot afford to have any kind of relations to terrorists. I think she worked for the grandfather, yes. And I think the grandfather wanted to actually protect/help J (and make the terrorist attempt fail again). And get his hands on the bombs?
7) Because he wanted to talk to her and understand her reasons (I guess he knew once K is captured, he won't have the chance to do that). Takagi considered her a friend and for the longest time he thought his father betrayed him but turned out he didn't, so maybe he thought K had a good reason, too.
8.) I wasn't entirely amazed by the efficiency of THIRD-I throughout the whole series, lol.. the only probable answer I can think of is that they did not have any other options and because she did sort of prove she turned against the terrorists.
9) I'd really like to know what was J's original plan, indeed. Because he wasn't buying the we-are-going-to-be-gods crap and he didn't seem to be emotionally attached to the father (ok well, he hated him I guess). I don't know what was his plan when it comes to the father but I think he played along because without the sect members' help J was much less efficient..
10) haha, that was kind of lollable. sure it was because they wanted us to think K is Kujo and all that stuff (so it was basically a waste of time), but he should have killed her the moment he had a chance to do so, indeed. I don't see why he'd go through the trouble to kill her in the church. Sure K had a lot to do with ppl dying in the church and if she died there, too, it would have been very epic, lol.. Maybe it was just playing with K, torturing her here and there, to initially learn about the whereabouts of the bomb? Killing K would not necessarily mean the end of the threat. There's always J you can count on.
11) I think K believed in what the sect believed in and maybe she thought they were running out of time, anyway and Maya didn't have the time to get far before the explosion, so she'd die anyway. Maybe she thought she was being merciful, maybe she thought she owned Maya something.. idk.
12) If K dies before the countdown finishes, the bomb explodes. She told Takagi the opposite to f*** with him one more time. I'm not sure what was she expecting, whether Takagi would shoot her or not.. (I think she knew he wouldn't) but I guess being shot to death seems to be a better way to go then what (she thought) was coming. On the other hand, there's the possibility she knew that if J (and Maya) betrayed her it means there won't be any explosion. So she toyed with Takagi's head a bit then she prob would have shot him and get away... Or she thought he would kill her and that's once again better than whatever she thought that was coming.
I think she asked because I don't think she had anyone close to her that she was sure they would miss her (or feel anything) if she died. The drama had a bunch of kids/younger ppl on the show with fucked up childhood and parent/trust issues and she was definitely one of them. If Takagi said he was happy, K would go knowing she really was alone (and that she managed to corrupt Takagi).. with the opposite happening, maybe K managed to get some peace before going.. or faith in humanity? (lol), idk..
13) They originally planned to get out of the city in time but since J never went back to K, and K didn't give up on him and waited, they ran out of time.
14) I think that was because she didn't want Yukiko to be just a nameless faceless victim, she wanted everyone to know it was actually a person with a name and with a life. Probably because how the blog readers reacted to her last entry. It almost seemed like there really wasn't a Yasuda Yukiko. Choosing her as the first victim I think it kind of shows where the terrorist were coming from, lol. What a fucked up thing that she was nothing more than a few entries on a blog yet so much more.
Maya wasn't confident all the time (with a few words, J could make her be extra cautious), thought she had to appear confident otherwise she would have been killed a long time ago. I don't see Haruka's reactions as a failure of the actress, either. As a matter of fact, I don't see that as a failure in any way.
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:38 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
i agree that this series needs some follow up, there were so many holes.
and i think the whole k thing was so sudden, by the time the episode finished i didn't even swallow the concept yet. i was totally ready to accept that kujo was a bad guy. grr. and i don't know...i like plot twists, but that was just soooo out there and it almost seemed ridiculous while i was watching it.
but those discrepancies are dead on, i barely caught any of those, except for like the first two. lol.
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:06 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
zsuness wrote:
I can only guess.. (and I hope I managed to make sense)
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2) Well according to the video the bomb went off before Maya entering the church, right? So she wasn't there during the actual explosion.. But I really have no idea how this works..
As I remember it, she was walking towards the door. Then few seconds later, everyone was dying. Well, it doesn't really matter if she walked in or out of the door. The bottom line is, there is no escape from the bomb unless she was far away from the site. Maya should have died unless she wasn't there at all and the video was tampered with to make it look like she was there.
4) I think K wanted to f*** with Takagi's head by getting as close to him as possible, making him care for her. And mind you, they did end up using Takagi to free the cult leader by kidnapping them and that's because K was close enough to Takagi to be with them and to be able to inject Hide with the virus somehow and control the situation more or less (she almost managed to get rid of the anti-virus (the pen), too, didn't she?).
okay I'll accept that she's a mole
5) What's wrong with expressionless? A psycho won't necessarily will run around screaming she's mad. I think there was nothing wrong with her being expressionless. Sure K's character was a bit colorless compared to other villains in the drama, but I don't think it was the fault of the actress.
I can understand expressionless as an act or a pretense. But usually people's true colors show. She didn't look like she had any colors. Usually sane people wouldn't go about blowing people up. Her expression looked like she was indifferent to anything and everything. I think the actor for Shimon did a better job at being a psycho than the girl. He was expressionless too, but his expressionless feature is different. He's more scary somehow. It's the vibe given off. It's the eyes and expression that speak. You can feel the character even if no words were spoken. With the actress, I was like..that's K? ahhh okay if you say so. She seems normal to me. Give me some hints she's actually crazy.
6) I guess the father kept Kujo because he wasn't the son of the cult leader (at least the grandfather seemed to assume so, and everyone else, as well) In a position like his, he cannot afford to have any kind of relations to terrorists. I think she worked for the grandfather, yes. And I think the grandfather wanted to actually protect/help J (and make the terrorist attempt fail again). And get his hands on the bombs?
No idea, it could have been a twist to it. The grandfather didn't seem like such a nice guy judging by the look on his eyes at the end.
8.) I wasn't entirely amazed by the efficiency of THIRD-I throughout the whole series, lol.. the only probable answer I can think of is that they did not have any other options and because she did sort of prove she turned against the terrorists.
I know the answer to this one. She was just a bait. They let her go and put a tracker on her so they could find out the hide out. They did that twice. Once she told about the mole. Second time she lead them to K.
9) I'd really like to know what was J's original plan, indeed. Because he wasn't buying the we-are-going-to-be-gods crap and he didn't seem to be emotionally attached to the father (ok well, he hated him I guess). I don't know what was his plan when it comes to the father but I think he played along because without the sect members' help J was much less efficient..
Actually, it was K who got maya to kill Shimon. She wanted to become the leader and unlock the jewelery box. J didn't want to unlock it. That would kill everyone. J wanted to release bloody X so he could control everyone. K probably went along the plan to rescue Shimon so she could kill him and take over the cult.
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