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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:44 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Yeah, lol. Am pretty confused over to what's going on myself. Will be better with subs.

All I can say for now is brilliant acting, as usual, from Toma. and I love the opening. A lot.

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Knowing that there's going to be a love triangle, I'm defo. sticking with it for now.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:49 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Is the streaming site not working for anyone else, or is it just me? ;_;

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:55 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I've got links to another streaming site (Veoh) If you want I can PM them you. Since Maou is broad casted on TBS and they are really sensitive when it comes to copyright I won't put the Veoh users' account at risk by even posting the links here. (user has already had his/her account shut down 3 times already)

So, if anyone wants the Veoh links, PM me. Smile

Oh, and that's of course if you can use Veoh. I know they've blocked a lot of countries from using their site. Nuts!?

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it doesn't work for me too >_<
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:49 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

this episode was amazing!
the acting was great!
riida is awesome Laugh

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specially when they were re-doing the "crime scene"
everything came back to toma, that was amazing! deng, so far this is my favorite drama
but what i didnt really understand was the tarot part, the judgement card means "a past crime"?? scratch
deffinitely gonna keep watching this Laugh


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:52 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

what does ohno want to do with the girl?does he want to kill her too?





what role does the female lead have?will there be something between ohno anf the female lead?
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I loved the first episode. The director did a great job of putting the scenes together. My favorite part was when the female lead was saying how Ohno's character has no heart and then it flashes over to Ohno crying on the pavement. Great scene and very well done.
Another scene that was great was the scene towards the end when Toma reenacted the scene of the stabbing and he relives the accident years ago and you can clearly see Toma struggle with it but then you see Ohno just stand there a stare like he knows everything that is going on in Toma's mind. Ohno's face was so intense at that moment that it was scary.


The end of the episode was great because you saw Ohno really calm and smooth and then he walks out of the room and that SMIRK totally killed me. I fear the smirk.


I worried a lot about this remake because the korean version was soooo well done but they were all laid to rest when I saw the first episode. Ohno really surprised me with his acting. I never knew he could be so strong since all I ever saw was his goofy side on tv shows but he really proved people who doubted him wrong.


I actually like that they aren't following tooo closely to the korean version because if they did there would not be any reason to even watch the japanese version. On the red room, the red room to me in the show symbolizes his hatred for Toma and I think that room will play an important part later on. I actually like that Ohno's character is close to some of the victims because it makes it more powerful in the performance that someone could be so cold and calculating even when they are close to them.

You know what they say about fearing those who are closer to you than a stranger. The thrill is never knowing.

Toma and Ohno did an awesome job and I can't say enough about the director and his style.


Sorry about the long rant, just enjoyed the drama a lot. smile.gif
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:09 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

First time posting... what an awesome episode!! Didn't understand most of it, but the acting was amazing, especially Ohno. Big Smile

Who would have thought he could play someone so bent on evil and destruction? Suprise Seriously, the menace was rolling off him in droves!

I had a hard time at first, believing that Toma is a detective, because I keep remembering him in Hana Kimi. Roll Eyes: I think he'll grow on me, though. I like Ryoko Kobayashi. but I'm wondering about her role in the drama, other than her "talent." I think she might be the crux of a love triangle later in the series, I'm guessing.

Anyway, I can't wait for it to be uploaded somewhere and someone subs it. *.* This series looks like it's going to be /really/ good.

P.S. the shower scene was entirely /too/ short Tongue

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:12 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Great epsiode. They both did an awesome job. Ohno was.. great. The crying scene and .. obviously the shower scene are awesome.
I never thought that one day i'd be scared of him xD
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:21 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

This is what I got from watching the episode. Is the raw up yet so I can rewatch it? I'll check the torrents xD

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The girl has the ability to see things, especially what happened to people, through objects. Toma doesn't believe her at first but then he starts too when the things start to connect around him and requests her help. As for love triangle, I don't know again I haven't seen the original. But I do know, for his blind fight against Ohno, he will be using her a lot as his trump card.

From Ohno's side, I believe he knows the girls ability. I think he wants to get close to the girl, probably, to silence or use her. Her ability is deadly to his cause if she can trace it back to him. I think though if Ohno gets in contact with the girl he'll pretty much give himself away as the guy with no heart.



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red room to me in the show symbolizes his hatred for Toma and I think that room will play an important part later on


The red room is not just that, its a film processing room. The red light is so that the film and photographs, drying, will not be destroyed by the bright light. Its an alternative. He processes his own photos. It makes sense considering he IS stalking Toma and the people around him and if he was to go to a film process place they would probably call the cops on him. So that's why its red, not really to symbolize anything.

You can tell his hatred for Toma just by the way he stalks him, sets up his murders, and uses it to directly challenge and torture him through his work.

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but what i didnt really understand was the tarot part, the judgement card means "a past crime"??


EDIT: I read the script, yeay! It means " 過去の罪への償い " Kako no Tsumi he no tsugunai - " Atonement for (your) past crimes "

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:32 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

The reason why I brought up the red room was because if you watch the original the room doesn't play an important part there but in this version I think it does. I know the red light is for processing of films but remember red is also the color of blood and hatred. this version uses it more than the original that is why I brought it up The red room was mentioned before in another thread so I was just responding to that.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:07 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Oh, I see. Big Smile Like I said, I haven't watched the original (because I know I am very critical and did not want to watch this with blinded eyes) so I might not be in on all the things you guys who have seen the original are in.

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I also think the red room is going to be really important.

In a photographic dark room, the best colour light to use is actually yellow, not red. And, as long as you're not physically processing anything at the time, it's totally fine to have the lights on. So there's obviously a major reason they chose red.

Although it already works, because that red room kind of like the center of his evil. It hides all the evidence that he's been stalking Toma, and it's where he contemplates all his evil deeds. Heh heh.

Yeh, I think maybe the main reason I think Toma is over-acting a bit, is that I'm used to seeing him playing the fool, and I'm not used to this character yet.

Anyway, as I've already said loads, this was a great first episode! And I think it's just going to get way better!!
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tsumabukis wrote:
In a photographic dark room, the best colour light to use is actually yellow, not red. And, as long as you're not physically processing anything at the time, it's totally fine to have the lights on. So there's obviously a major reason they chose red.


Ah, I did not know that. I just knew what I was exposed to by my friends who were taking photography in HS and let me chill in the print rooms and it was all red and stuff pinch

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Although it already works, because that red room kind of like the center of his evil. It hides all the evidence that he's been stalking Toma, and it's where he contemplates all his evil deeds. Heh heh.


LOL, I just had a mental image of Ohno going, TO THE BAT CAVE and pulling on one of his law books to get inside his secret red room. Yes, I am weird.

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Yeh, I think maybe the main reason I think Toma is over-acting a bit, is that I'm used to seeing him playing the fool, and I'm not used to this character yet.


Yeah, but I think he's getting too emotional, then again, maybe that's how brash his character is?

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[quote="Ladymercury"]Oh, I see. :D Like I said, I haven't watched the original (because I know I am very critical and did not want to watch this with blinded eyes) so I might not be in on all the things you guys who have seen the original are in.

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No problem just putting a bit of information out there for those who haven't seen the original. :)
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