Why Europian Ladies Do Fangirling for Asian Idols

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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:43 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

haha but i have no idea!!!

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:06 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

My theory is that it's not the Asian men specifically that we like, but the forgotten quality that they seem to still posses. If you go back far enough you'll find in pretty much every culture the ideal of the beautiful and delicate male. If you look at art, the works depict many men as pretty and graceful not masculine. In history texts, ancient gods and note worthy figures were often described as beautiful not butch. It seems though that this natural instinct to prize what is pretty has slowly died away in western culture and thus the beautiful and effeminate male is now rare. Asia seems to be the only place where these men still thrive and those of us who are still in touch with the instinct to prize such delicacy are drawn into the world of pretty Asian men.

In short... we like the pretty.

Hmmm... you think I could write a philosophy paper on that? Laugh

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:11 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Why is the name of Brad Pitt - OR Tom Cruise OR Robert Redford OR many other non-asian (so non-effeminate !!) guys - known by (almost) every girl and woman in all the "industrialized countries" ? (at least those who have seen one of his/theirs movies)

Is Brad Pitt (OR any other guy mentionned above) a beautiful and delicate and effeminate male ? (the jaw alone is very viril/masculine, and what about the eyebrows and the nose and...)

Is there some "Asian Brad Pitt" who is somewhat beautiful and delicate and effeminate, and known and "workshiped" worldwide ?

Are there more european girls/women who prefers asian (male) idols then those who don't ?

My point is that the Europian Ladies who Do Fangirling for Asian Idols are not a significant part of the female population and they prefer skinny asian effeminate males because they do prefer them....maybe because they watched too many asian dramas or maybe they like the characters those "idols" portrayed, or maybe the prefer guys who look like pre-teen boys (like some men who prefer pre-teen girls/lolicon)

Sorry if i hurt some hardcore fans and if i appear to be a macho man, but some of those "male idols" do look like anorexic girls with a penis and no boobs ! (yea..it's maybe a little exaggerated but you see my point...i hope)

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:20 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:29 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

I also have to say that it saddens me a lot that every single Western man I've so far met in Korea has considered himself superior to Korean men simply because of the idea that in order to be a man, you need to have chest hair, never wear fashionable clothes and never wear purses (which, by the way, are incredibly useful and Western men for whom it is not acceptable to carry them really brought a considerable inconvenience upon themselves). A lot of these men also seem to think that just because they think they are more masculine than the local men, they are automatically going to be more attractive to just about every local girl (a big reason why I dislike hanging out with white men living in Korea - their egos have inflated to the size of Brazil due to their illusions about being so much better than Korean men). I highly doubt that if a considerable portion of Asian women (especially Japanese and Taiwanese women, where the "pretty-boy-syndrome" seems to be the most acceptable socially) didn't like their men looking like Asian male idols do, there would be any men save a few freaks aspiring to be pretty. It's a different culture and there are different standards.

I always found it astounding how Western men display such vehement hatred for pretty or effeminate man. I remember when Titanic came out, every single man I knew would joke about Leonardo diCaprio being gay just because he could have been perceived as a beautiful rather than a ruggedly handsome man. It's a very intolerant side of Western culture.

In my book, it's a good thing when different standards of beauty are accepted and none are looked down upon. I see no conflict in pretty and handsome men co-existing peacefully with each other, and each woman being free to have her own preference.

And I have to admit, a big reason why I like Korea is that, while a lot of men are very masculine, more feminine men are equally as socially accepted and are not generally resented by men belonging to the former category. Now if only Korea would develop equal tolerance for more tomboyish women....

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:47 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

I can only speak for myself as a European white girl ... I like dark and handsome/beautiful. I'm an absolute fan of Kimura Takuya, as a singer and actor and it doesn't hurt that he is beautiful. Not beautiful in the skinny girl with no boobs version but a very sultry, male kind of way. He is skinny but not too skinny, he has brown eyes, a beautiful face and a few muscles. No need to say that I look for similar in European men and only found it in actors like Johnny Depp and Orlando Bloom, to name a few. Actors or idols like Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise look good, but they could never made me fangirling them. No chance at all.

But then I know a lot of effimninate men, especially from the Goth scene where I have been since I have been 14 years old. The first guy I fell in love with was a Japanese exchange student in 9th grade, so my *obsession* for Asian males started at an early age and has nothing to do with too many Asian dramas or movies (even though nowadays I prefer to watch those rather than Western series and movies).

I guess it is preference, or in some cases I'm sure, just the feel of the exotic.

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:51 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

^Absolutely agreed on Johnny Depp and Orlando Bloom! Gorgeous men who know how to walk that fine line between masculinity and femininity that makes women so crazy.

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:41 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

for me it's because I'm attracted to them that's all

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:46 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

I would never call Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise manly. Robert Redford sure. But Brad Pitt's too pretty. I actually think he kind of falls into the edge of the category we are talking about.

And I totally agree with Néa Vanille. It's so sad how western culture has grown a phobia to such men.
It's funny because you would think people would notice that the femanine quality is widely apprishiated by women when movies like Lord ot the Rings comes out and tough manly Aragorn gets much love from the ladies. It's the prissy little elf boy, Legolas, that gets serious fangirls.

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:10 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:11 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

hm what's wrong with that? it's like saying why asian women fan girl american stars.

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:13 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:25 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:28 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0