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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:22 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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Because he's smart enough to take them on one after the other.
And I really love his fighting scenes. I don't know why, but they look very realistic to me.
Much more then american shows. It looks very cool. Roll Eyes
In that context certainly, because the 6 terrorists were spread on 5 floors. But the quote itself just seemed hilarious to me. He really should have added "because they're so spread out" or something

One thing I did not like about this scenario is that they asked for too little $$$. 300M yen is < 3M US dollars. I LOL'ed when this guy said that the govt broke the bank to pony up the $$$. Dr. Evil's <pinky>"One MILLION dollars!"</pinky> came to mind Laugh

Regardless, this is my fave series of this season

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:31 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

auroragb wrote:

One thing I did not like about this scenario is that they asked for too little $$$. 300M yen is < 3M US dollars. I LOL'ed when this guy said that the govt broke the bank to pony up the $$$. Dr. Evil's <pinky>"One MILLION dollars!"</pinky> came to mind Laugh


And only 1,8M Euro, I just looked it up. Laugh You're right, they are really quite modest for so much effort.

But, oh well... Really enjoying this too. Wub
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Hmmm, it's been interesting so far.

But can anyone explain to me what's with the Walther PPKs in this season? Nakama's carrying one in Joshi Deka, and now here. No cop carries PPKs anymore. They were -somewhat- state of the art in the 70s, my father carried one himself, but they were replaced with Glock 18s in 80s (designated P-80). I wouldn't even take a PPK for self defense, the only advantage it has is its size (but even there I'd go for a Glock 26 or any other Glock compact or subcompact model, there are plenty, in all different calibers). Anything else? Forget it. Any 9mm outperforms it easily (even the crappy Beretta M92FS). It only holds 7 rounds and the 7.62 doesn't have any decent stopping power compared to a 9mm round. He should carry a Glock 18 (with high cap mag *insert Tim-Taylor-grunt here*) or one of the new Walther models, heck even a Glock 26 would be better. HK anyone? Or an M1911 (the improved one, with 14 rounds). But that Walther PPK really kills the immersion.

Heck, give him a Wehrmacht issue P38. It's just as old, but at least it has stopping power. Personally I'd give him a Glock 20. Agreed, the 10mm are unusual, but they do hurt.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:47 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I have never seen a real gun in my whole life so I have no idea what you're talking about. scratch
But thanks for the magazine scan. Do you maybe have the inside as well? Wub
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:01 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I was looking forward to this series, and I acutally enjoy it, but It is still no ODORU.

If anyone didn't catch the reference to Odoru in the first episode, the Governer of Tokyo was visiting a movie premiere of a movie called "PANIC IN THE SKY II" , if you look at the cover, it is the train from the 3rd Odoru Movie with Inspector Mashita as the negotiator.

While I enjoy the action sequences, some parts of this series is just too unrealistic, yes of course its a drama but:

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In episode 1, he's fighting a guy with a bunch of knifes, why the hell doesn't he just shoot him, and then later when the guy tries to shoot the governor, there's a body guard to the right of her, but none on the left (this could be because they are undermstaffed), then he doesn't react much) But hey its also a TV SHOW!!! Come on things can't be totally realistic or you lose all the suspense of it..



Actually the gun he carries is not a PPK. It is a Sig P230JP, it is similar in appearance to the PPK, but it is a larger. The P230 JP is a specialized version of the standard P230 (the JP stands for Japanese Police) made specifically for them. It was designed to replace the revolvers they were using.

However one must remember gun violence in Japan is still low compared to other countries, and officers don't shoot everyone up all the time.

If you put it into perspective, Japanese police officers carry guns, regular officers in England do not.

However in Japan they have SWAT teams (called SAT) which are called in if they need heavy back up.


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While I enjoy the action sequences, some parts of this series is just too unrealistic, yes of course its a drama but:

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In episode 1, he's fighting a guy with a bunch of knifes, why the hell doesn't he just shoot him, and then later when the guy tries to shoot the governor, there's a body guard to the right of her, but none on the left (this could be because they are undermstaffed), then he doesn't react much) But hey its also a TV SHOW!!! Come on things can't be totally realistic or you lose all the suspense of it..



Yep I totally agree about the occasional unrealism. I would suppose that complacency explains part of it.

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I have never seen a real gun in my whole life so I have no idea what you're talking about. scratch
But thanks for the magazine scan. Do you maybe have the inside as well? Wub


I managed to find small scans of the article. Trying to get my hands on bigger ones.



This one is from TV Life:




The next story will apparently run for three eps too. Lets hope they don't overwhelm us with recaps again!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:44 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Wow, thank you! Laugh Those scans look so cool. Cool

To bad it's so small...
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Thank you so much for the scans! They will tie me over 'till the next episode comes out. Laugh Wub
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After the initial headiness of the first few episodes, I must say I'm rather disappointed at the way SP is developing. It's been 5 episodes and there's been barely any character development for Inoue or Ogata. Or maybe, the more correct thing to say is, that Inoue doesn't seem to have a personality. And Tsutsumi Shinichi seems rather underutilised for now.

The bunch of terrorists this time seem less inept then the previous ones but I hope the script is tighter and more thought put into the type and length of scenes shown.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:47 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I never thought Sp would be the kind of series overly focusing on character development, I dunno why. Though I have to agree, it's a pity, especially because I think Okada Junichi and Tsustumi Shinichi make a great team - I usually don't really like Tsutsumi-san.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:25 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Okada also didn't have a lot of screen time in this episode.
Personally, I hoped they would focus on his special abilitys more, but since this series will seemingly go on for the next season as well, maybe the development will just be very slow. Wait and see. Roll Eyes
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yup carried forward to next season .
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This series has been approved for a 2nd season?

If so thats great.
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